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Old 08-07-2004, 06:45 AM   #1
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Do you even give a shit that 80% of Females in this Biz have been physically abused?

Do you fuckers even give a shit that like 80% of the Female models I have spoke to from this industry have been physically / sexually abused in some way at a young age?

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Old 08-07-2004, 06:46 AM   #2
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You don't have to be a model to be abused. Many women are abused, not just models
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Old 08-07-2004, 06:50 AM   #3
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Is someone forcing them to get into this biz?
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Old 08-07-2004, 06:52 AM   #4
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Is someone forcing them to get into this biz?
yeah, the fucker that sexually abused them.... (in a way)
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Old 08-07-2004, 06:52 AM   #5
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as long as its not me or my friends. time to move on and play ball.
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Old 08-07-2004, 06:54 AM   #6
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100% of man seeing hookers are getting monetarily abused.
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Old 08-07-2004, 06:54 AM   #7
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Honestly, even though I don't like to see anyone being abused, they *can* press charges against the person if they want. I know someone will bring up "it wouldn't stand" but really it should if they don't agree to being abused (not apart of their culture / lifestyle) in a contract and/or they weren't told what kind of session it would be, and that it was for "Choke The Bitch!" website.

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Old 08-07-2004, 06:55 AM   #8
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yeah, the fucker that sexually abused them.... (in a way)
That's like saying the government (or society) is responsible for drunk drivers that kill people - which of course is true, but it's currently deemed acceptable in the society's views.

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Old 08-07-2004, 06:58 AM   #9
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Well lucky for them it pays so fucking well.
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Old 08-07-2004, 07:02 AM   #10
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That's like saying the government (or society) is responsible for drunk drivers that kill people - which of course is true, but it's currently deemed acceptable in the society's views.

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Matt I see what your saying,
But you gotta ask yourself would they have really got in to this biz in the first place if not for being abused?
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Old 08-07-2004, 07:03 AM   #11
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Well lucky for them it pays so fucking well.
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Old 08-07-2004, 07:11 AM   #12
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Do you fuckers even give a shit that like 80% of the Female models I have spoke to from this industry have been physically / sexually abused in some way at a young age?
Not really.. 99.964% of statistics are made up on the spot.
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Old 08-07-2004, 07:17 AM   #13
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Not really.. 99.964% of statistics are made up on the spot.
or to help prove a point
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Old 08-07-2004, 07:19 AM   #14
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Do you fuckers even give a shit that like 80% of the Female models I have spoke to from this industry have been physically / sexually abused in some way at a young age?
I particularly love how you call us all names and imply that we're all heartless in your post...

Since you know me and everyone else so well, I'll speak for everyone and say that none of us would care if you got hit by a bus because that's just how we all are.

Until that happens, take your condecending remarks and dumbass attitude and shove them up your ass. If that fails you, then disconnect the wire from the back of your computer and never return until you can learn to deal with people better than the people who abused those girls.

Speaking of which, did you know that 100% of dumbasses with the nick JayJay on GFY just insulted an entire industry?

Think before speaking.... some of us do care, but only for those who ask questions without putting us down at the same time.
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Old 08-07-2004, 07:22 AM   #15
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Do you fuckers even give a shit that like 80% of the Female models I have spoke to from this industry have been physically / sexually abused in some way at a young age?
80% of female models are liars and 95% of adult webmasters believe them.
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It's funny how people always have an excuse for why they do shit. A lot of chicks are abused each year, yet only a small percentage suck cock for money...
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If you took the REAL percentage of porn models who have been abused and the REAL percentage of non-porn-models who have been abused (you'd need a consistent definition of what "abused" is), I suspect that you'd find that the abuse gap is not as large as you think, ie I suspect that models are more likely to have been abused, but your estimate of 80% is too high and your implied (presumably much lower) estimate for the general population is too low
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Old 08-07-2004, 07:43 AM   #18
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I particularly love how you call us all names and imply that we're all heartless in your post...

Since you know me and everyone else so well, I'll speak for everyone and say that none of us would care if you got hit by a bus because that's just how we all are.

Until that happens, take your condecending bla bla fucking bla
did I hit a nerve?
I've worked with 100 times more girls in this Industy then you have changed those dirty fucking shit stained pants of yours,

When you worked with the Girls "on the front line" for as long as I have you get to hear their stories, some can be extremely upsetting.

So next time you think you can speak for the "entire industry" make sure you Take that fucking Mask off first and come out the closet
Your a Fag get over it,

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Old 08-07-2004, 07:47 AM   #19
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80% of female models are liars and 95% of adult webmasters believe them
LoL, you may have a point there
But I would Change it to ...

80% of females are liars and 95% of "men" believe them

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Old 08-07-2004, 07:51 AM   #20
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did I hit a nerve?
I've worked with 100 times more girls in this Industy then you have changed those dirty fucking shit stained pants of yours,

When you worked with the Girls "on the front line" for as long as I have you get to hear their stories, some can be extremely upsetting.

So next time you think you can speak for the "entire industry" make sure you Take that fucking Mask off first and come out the closet
Your a Fag get over it,

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Looks like it was me who hit the nerve. Since you seem to be making all these assumptions about me. Particularly amusing that you think I've never worked with models before. You obviously have no clue.

As for speaking for the entire industry, you were the one who called everyone in the industry "fuckers" and implied that no one cared. Seems that you have double standards

I'm glad you have such wonderful interpersonal skills... you respond to posts by calling me "maskedfag." That makes you very special.

Special in a short bus kinda way.

You should just quit while you're ahead, you made yourself look like enough of an ass with your first post, you're not helping matters by trying to convince people even more.
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Old 08-07-2004, 07:56 AM   #22
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Do you fuckers even give a shit that like 80% of the Female models I have spoke to from this industry have been physically / sexually abused in some way at a young age?

Let me answer that question in a clear, concise way:
No.
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Old 08-07-2004, 07:58 AM   #23
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Matt I see what your saying,
But you gotta ask yourself would they have really got in to this biz in the first place if not for being abused?
80 percent my fucking ass. That's the most bullshit number i've ever heard. And here's a crazy idea, maybe some chicks get into the biz because they like fucking and it's the easiest money they'll ever make. Wow.
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Old 08-07-2004, 08:11 AM   #24
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you were the one who called everyone in the industry "fuckers"
BTW,You need to wake the fuck up There is a whole Industry outside of GFY. so me calling everyone on this board Fuckers does refer to the "entire industry"

I'll say it again......
You Fuckers or Fucker since you are the only Fucker I am speaking to now.

It cracks me up that You seem to be so offended by me calling you a Fucker on a board called
Go Fuck yourself
Makes me think you must be some kind of retard
Perhaps it is Lawrence Connor behind this mask?

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Old 08-07-2004, 08:23 AM   #25
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did I hit a nerve?
I've worked with 100 times more girls in this Industy then you have changed those dirty fucking shit stained pants of yours,

When you worked with the Girls "on the front line" for as long as I have you get to hear their stories, some can be extremely upsetting.

So next time you think you can speak for the "entire industry" make sure you Take that fucking Mask off first and come out the closet
Your a Fag get over it,

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So, what did you do to help these 80% of abused girls you worked with? You CERTAINLY didn't continue to take adantage of their past abuse to make money off them, did you? You got them out of the biz since it was the abuse that got them in, right?
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Old 08-07-2004, 08:32 AM   #26
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So, what did you do to help these 80% of abused girls you worked with? You CERTAINLY didn't continue to take adantage of their past abuse to make money off them, did you? You got them out of the biz since it was the abuse that got them in, right?
Yes, you hit the nail on the head!
This is the whole point of this post and for the same reason I feel bad for.
also From the reaction to this post it looks like other people feel the same way too...
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I think 80% is a little high. I think it has nothing to do with whether you are abused in MOST cases. I don't think most porn stars have pimps that make them do porn.



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Matt I see what your saying,
But you gotta ask yourself would they have really got in to this biz in the first place if not for being abused?
The money? The attention?


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It's funny how people always have an excuse for why they do shit. A lot of chicks are abused each year, yet only a small percentage suck cock for money...


In a completely unrelated story - people will always use an excuse to justify their actions.

For example, in Toronto there were a few black women who tried to sneak coke into the country just to make a few bucks. They swollowed pellats of coke and hit it into their suitcases. When they were caught and eventually taken to court - their excuse was simply that they lived in the ghetto and they wanted to make a quick buck for their children. They were a product of circumstance. Smuggling coke and stealing a loaf of bread are two completely different things. Its a decision you make, and you have got to live with your decisions.


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I hear ya...
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What happened to you yesterday does not preclude you from walking in the right path tomorrow.
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I've worked with hundreds of models over the years. I recruited them, managed them, photographed them, referred work to them...... AND before that I worked in the health care profession for nearly 15 years. I worked with hundreds of nurses during that time, and I can honestly say that the % of women in BOTH professions is high for abuse, both in childhood and adult lives.

There is plenty of abuse going on out there all the time. Men get abused, women, children, and it doesn't matter what job they hold. Weather it's a movie star or famous singer, a doctor or lawyer, cop, carpenter, model, used car salesperson or someone working in adult.... there is abuse.

Btw, if i ever addressed the health care community with this issue I believe the chances of me calling them 'fuckers' are quite minimal.
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What happened to you yesterday does not preclude you from walking in the right path tomorrow.
I couldn't agree more. I was a victim of abuse as a child and so was my brother..... we both walked two COMPLETELY different paths as adults though. I took it and used it to my advantage and learned what NOT to do to my children and because of the abuse, I am a better parent and a better person, why? Because I know how to treat people and what hurts and what doesn't. I only have the temper left and even that has settled some over the years because of the awesome support system I have in my life, married him 21 years ago. LOL

My brother, however, is walking the EXACT same path that he grew up in, he is a raging, abusive, alcoholic, been married 3 times, and so on.... he blew off his kids like they were a bother and now his oldest has just gone to jail THIS week for burglary, and you know why? Because he has a home and a roof over his head in jail, his parents BOTH shut him out because he was a burden to them.

ANYONE can be abused and a large part of them are, probably morethan we care to realize.... but it is what you do as an adult that makes it then YOUR responsibility. Did you take it and learn from it, or are you going to walk the same path and use the "abuse excuse" to get you out of trouble after you got yourself into it? I, for one, get so tired of the abuse excuse.... it's a cop out as far as I am concerned. Yeah, abuse is horrible and it sucks and can fuck you up for the rest of your life.... IF YOU LET IT!!!

This isn't to say I don't care at all, because god knows I do...... but there are choices we make as adults that have to outweigh the abuse we suffered as children or we'll NEVER break that chain and as you see by my bothers choices, he is continuing it on because it was much to hard to do the work to break HIS chain...... I chose to break mine! Some do and some don't.... it's their choice though once they become adults.

We hear about it more in the porn industry because that is where WE ARE, in the porn industry. But as CDSmith said, if you are in a different industry, you are going to think there are more in THAT industry than any other. It is all a matter of what you know and where you are....... but it is EVERYWHERE, not JUST in the porn industry, we just know this one better than we do others. Or most of us anyway. LOL
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Tam, So you was victim of abuse and now you work in adult
Looks like Jay may have been right

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So you was victim of abuse and now you work in adult
Yes, but I have also worked in the Health Care industry and several other areas..... and I seen a lot of it in the Health Care Industry as well.. if I had to make a guess, I'd say there were AS many, if not more in that one than there is this one. MOST of them that were abused say they chose the industry because they wanted to help those who needed help, they wanted to make a difference.

I didn't CHOOSE the adult industry, it kind of chose me, if that makes any sense. LOL

On my medical records, it has that my health is shit and I should probably never work again, all stemming from a majority of childhood shit I got and caused permenant damage..... and I was turned down on my disability claim because I refused to let them operate. I wanted/NEEDED to help my husband with the income and set out to do just that, I decided I was going to work from home, raise my kids myself and help him with that, AND it's kind of hard to get a job when the Docs have all added that little tidbit to your medical history...... so while setting out to find something online to do, we were watching a thing on TV one night and they had a couple on there that was making a fortune in the Adult Industry...... so that's where I chose to be.

I didn't choose to be in the industry BECAUSE of my abuse, I chose it because it was a means to help him pay the bills. Yeah I could have gone back to school and gotten a degree and all of that, but that wasn't going to help pay the bills and even so, with my medical history, it probably wouldn't have done a damn bit of good. So this is where I am...... and it isn't and never has had anything to do with abuse, it is to do with it pays my bills and takes some of the pressure off of him. Raising 4 kids isn't cheap, you know?
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Silly thread.
Simple solution.
Report it to the proper authorities.
Have a nice day.
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Right, This is what I am getting From the majority of the replies in this thread....

You all seem to be saying it would be around the same figures in any other profession? Yes?

So what you are basically saying is that
80% of all women have been sexually abused?

What is this denial?
Trying to make yourself feel better about the job that we do?
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Right, This is what I am getting From the majority of the replies in this thread....

You all seem to be saying it would be around the same figures in any other profession? Yes?

So what you are basically saying is that
80% of all women have been sexually abused?

What is this denial?
Trying to make yourself feel better about the job that we do?
You never answered my questions.
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So what you are basically saying is that
80% of all women have been sexually abused?
Your original post was about physical/sexual abuse..... and there is a large % of women that have been either physically or sexually abused. What SOME may see as abuse, isn't really abuse at all, so you have to allow for that...... getting your ass whipped or being told "no, you can't go to that party" is NOT abuse, but if you talk to some, they will tell you their parents were horrible and emotionally abused them and so on.

What I class as abuse is when you get the hell beat out of you, leaving bruises all over you, being forced to have sex when you don't want to do it, being touched in places you don't want to be touched as a child....... things of THIS nature.

My own daughter told her friends once that we were abusive to her and told me we abused her, and you know why she did this? Because she had chores and none of her friends had chores so this must make me an abusive parent. Her friends parents all cleaned their rooms for them and they had to do NOTHING around the house. MY kids have chores, if they are going to live in my house, they are going to have responsibilities....... but try telling a 15 yr old girl this, she was convinced she was abused.

People see abuse as many different things, strict parents are not abusive parents........ making them clean their room isn't abusive. Being beaten until you bleed or being forced to be touched in private places, THAT is abuse.

My greatest memory as a mom was when my oldest who is now engaged, came to me and thanked me for being a mom that cared enough to TEACH her responsibility and giving her my best. She no longer thinks she was abused because she had to clean her room, but boy, for about 2-3 years there, she sure as hell did.
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Old 08-07-2004, 10:59 AM   #41
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Old 08-07-2004, 11:10 AM   #42
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So, what did you do to help these 80% of abused girls you worked with?

You CERTAINLY didn't continue to take adantage of their past abuse to make money off them, did you?

You got them out of the biz since it was the abuse that got them in, right?

If you're still in this biz then you're still taking advantage of them per your logic. And if you're not still in the biz, why are you on this board?
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Old 08-07-2004, 11:12 AM   #43
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1 in 4 female children are sexually abused

and that is what not's hidden

"a girl child ain't safe in a world full of mens"

you better believe that parents
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Old 08-07-2004, 11:12 AM   #44
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80% of female models are liars and 95% of adult webmasters believe them
I think that its very true.

When i was 18 yo i worked as a secretary in the " discret flat" , and i talked with a lot of prostituts there.
And 90% of them, told me some realy bulshiting storyes, why thay got to the bissnes.
I am sure that the majority of that was a lie...
But thay wanted to give some explanetion to thay self, why thay fuck with 15 guys a day....

Maybe the same about porn models.

I am a webmissteris and also a photogrofer, but i never heard about my models abut this kind of things.
Well, i am working only with a few :-)
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Old 08-07-2004, 11:14 AM   #45
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not all the models i know have been abused. Some girls just grew up without a dad or never knew who he was. These girls love getting attention from guys and will do just about anything to get it. And i guess this industry along with the stripping industry takes car of that.
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Old 08-07-2004, 11:20 AM   #46
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Yes we give a shit... fucker... your point?

We should join the JayJay rescue the the models league? When do we start?

Only use non-abused models?

Help Bush ban this evil business that takes advantage of abused women?

Tell the models to go work for the church where they'll be safe... they can't have our money! They were abused!


Like Tam said... these girls are adults. They make their own decisions and it's a free country.

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Old 08-07-2004, 11:21 AM   #47
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i agree with all of you. female models have to suffer a lot before they become a model.
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Old 08-07-2004, 11:22 AM   #48
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It always makes me laugh when people talk about our "advanced" civilization. It's all ignorant cave-man shit all the way up to present day. There's always been cocks, women, and money...and there's always been people who habitually abuse and exploit women who need cash or are in a tough situation (and perhaps lacking any sense of self-worth). And those are sad stories, whether these women are victems of childhood physical abuse or not. The female body is the world's #1 product and marketing tool. It would make more sense if this powerful product/tool was more valued by mankind, and treated with the level of respect it deserves. Ok, someone can post the tub pic now....
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Do you fuckers even give a shit that like 80% of the Female models I have spoke to from this industry have been physically / sexually abused in some way at a young age?
Nope. I couldn't care less. When they're around me, they're not treated that way and that's the end of my interest.
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Yes we give a shit... fucker... your point?

We should join the JayJay rescue the the models league? When do we start?

Only use non-abused models?

Help Bush ban this evil business that takes advantage of abused women?

Tell the models to go work for the church where they'll be safe... they can't have our money! They were abused!


Like Tam said... these girls are adults. They make their own decisions and it's a free country.

LoL your a Funny Fucker
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