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wehateporn · 02-08-2018, 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by NewNick

That's all we need to see what a half-witted Nazi baboon he is.

What is the basis for labeling him a Nazi?

Grapesoda · 02-08-2018, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by NewNick

Thats not true.

The US media is a bit weird because you have lots of comment dressed up as news.

However around the world media simply reports what Trump says, and what he does.

That's all we need to see what a half-witted Nazi baboon he is.

that's not even slightly true...read the biz section stay away from politics and entertainment and you'll see the great stuff trump is doing

BaldBastard · 02-08-2018, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda

that's not even slightly true...read the biz section stay away from politics and entertainment and you'll see the great stuff trump is doing

Problem is most of the humour about Trump abroad comes from the business sections of the papers, his economic policies are seen as a joke. The consensus amongst politicians here is that he's an Idiot.. but they hang in there and play the game for the sake of their own countries and just hope that the USA wakes up soon enough to recover damage he's doing.

Grapesoda · 02-08-2018, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard

Problem is most of the humour about Trump abroad comes from the business sections of the papers, his economic policies are seen as a joke. The consensus amongst politicians here is that he's an Idiot.. but they hang in there and play the game for the sake of their own countries and just hope that the USA wakes up soon enough to recover damage he's doing.

I haven't read that at all... I've read that the trade agreements are in our favour and he's trying to bring stuff back to the states etc..the only reason the politicals are nervous is that when Trump got elected EVERYBODY instantly figured out we don't need fucking politicians anymore.

the pollys are starting deep shit to try and keep their jobs. always remember mr bald bastard: you have no value to a politician other than a vote every few years. you are a disposable resource for their own ends with no intrinsic value at all. pollys don't seem to mind one bit if you get yer shit blown away so they can make more money

trump may be a loud mouth jerk, so what? he is POTUS. accept and move on. the main thing for me is that Trump is a businessman so he does place value on individual people. this is how businessmen make money, a recurring income from a market. while politicians have no honour, for instance, any document a politician signs actually means very little. ask an Indian if you do not believe me. businessmen have to honour the contract or they get sued, and if they do not 'produce' they go out of biz... while pollys just keep fucking shit up, lying, stealing and blaming everybody but themselves for all the misery, while trying to take money from the guys working to get the vote from the guys not working.... I miss anything?

and one other minor point: worldwide media wanted Mrs Bill Clinton to be president so all the social crap and borders would open to provide handouts and grab the losers out of euroland and bring them over here... that's the only fucking reason euro land even gives a fuck other than getting the US into shit trade agreements that favour anyone but us. in fact, the MEDIA still can't except that Trump is POTUS and is doing EVERYTHING possible discredit trump and bring down the American political system. you see that right?

so seriously why in the holy hopping fuck would you believe anything they print? that's what kills me

think of it like this, rochard being the editor of the NYT..see what I mean? the guy has a 100% agenda and believes anything negative about trump. and he's not really that sharp. he'd be perfect!

BTW I do not seem to remember Obama fact-checking by the media after speeches etc. do I misremember?

BaldBastard · 02-08-2018, 09:00 AM

So what great trade agreements has he done? like not just talked about but put in place?

And your aware Australian's prime minster was/is a successful business man? (top200 wealthy in the country member) the kind with no bankruptcy's and releases his tax to the public for scrutiny, actually that's law here, got to keep the politicians in check ;).

Here's an interesting read for you.

Stoking a fire with gasoline: why the US share market shuddered

BTW I guess your all for Trump increasing Government jobs by 15% so far and adding another Trillion in Debt. What you voted for right?

CarlosTheGaucho · 02-08-2018, 01:11 PM

South Africa is actually a very interesting topic. It was, at one point, one of the most developed countries in the world, with its own space program, advanced infrastructure, and a stable economy. It was in fact the only country in Sub-Saharan Africa that was able to sustain a modern economy post 1960.

What not that many know is that the original lands, first colonized by the Dutch in the 17th century (who later became the Afrikaaners) were almost inhabited. The sole purpose of the first settlement of the Cape of Good Hope was to establish a small colony that could be used by the crews of the ships on their way to and back from Java. With more expansion, these later encountered Hotentots. However, the influx of most of the African, Bantu population didn't happen until much later.

After the British take over of the Cape Town at the end of the 18th century, slavery was abolished. The Afrikaaners fled into the inlands to establish their own independent enclaves. The discovery of Gold in these later led to the Boer War, the Brits invaded, the Boers were outnumbered and defeated in a horrific fashion. As a consequence, many of the impoverished Boers fled their farms to the majority British, big cities. One of the reasons that Afrikaans became a second official language in South Africa in the 1920's was to give them more access to education and to integrate them into the society. This eventually worked out and around the time of the WW II the poverty of Boers was no longer a major issue.

Even before the official apartheid era (pre - 1948), there was a mandated separation, native Africans were given reserved areas, where Europeans were not allowed to purchase land. And given the very same rights as long as they settled and kept on their own turf. The original motivation behind segregation is claimed to be to protect the Europeans from direct competition with Africans, which should have contributed to elevating the African majority as well.

What is also not often cited, based on the hard data, the African population actually did experience a major increase in their living standards during the Apartheid era. There were major investments into education, medicine, infrastructure. There were also for example more women with professional qualifications than in any other country in Africa.

The disposable income of the Africans in SA (adjusted for inflation) almost doubled between 1960 - 1980, the average life expectancy raised from mid thirties to 60 years. This also brought, as a consequence - a massive increase in the African population. While at the end of the WW II the European population in SA was at approx. 22 pct., by the end of the century it was only 12 pct., today it's estimated at around 9 pct.

After the ANC took over in the early 90's the country spiraled into a steady decline, an explosion in violent crime (in 2015 estimated 49 murders a day, by the official count), corruption, incompetence and overspending. Resembling more the conditions in other African countries. While the European minority is supposed to still contribute about 50 pct. of all the government income, they are also frequent targets of violence and raising demands for "black ownership" (this term is used officially).

femdomdestiny · 02-08-2018, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho

rox. 22 pct., by the end of the century it was only 12 pct., today it's estimated at around 9 pct.

After the ANC took over in the early 90's the country spiraled into a steady decline, an explosion in violent crime (in 2015 estimated 49 murders a day, by the official count), corruption, incompetence and overspending. Resembling more the conditions in other African countries. While the European minority is supposed to still contribute about 50 pct. of all the government income, they are also frequent targets of violence and raising demands for "black ownership" (this term is used officially).

My friend was living there. His family moved at some point, they are dentists. They came back after a few years telling that black population is ruining everything.

XXXBizXXX · 02-08-2018, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by StefanG

... and studying in Canada and the US helped him to achieve what he did so far and he added billions to the US economy (and other countries).

May this serve as an example what can be done if all people work together instead of against each other.

PS: Model 3 production still sucks donkey balls, obviously nobody is perfect

What the fuck you're talking about. South Africa is a really nice country. Not all African countries are shithole like inside of your skull. another fucking libtard ....

Grapesoda · 02-08-2018, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard

So what great trade agreements has he done? like not just talked about but put in place?

And your aware Australian's prime minster was/is a successful business man? (top200 wealthy in the country member) the kind with no bankruptcy's and releases his tax to the public for scrutiny, actually that's law here, got to keep the politicians in check ;).

Here's an interesting read for you.

Stoking a fire with gasoline: why the US share market shuddered

BTW I guess your all for Trump increasing Government jobs by 15% so far and adding another Trillion in Debt. What you voted for right?

cool about the aussie, I don't really follow politics because the shit you guys talk about is completely meaningless and only assigns blame around. there are no positive talking points. the stock market is volatile and always has been and is being controlled by somebody somewhere for money NO MATTER WHO THE FUCK IS POTUS... get it??

besides, you guys are like the fucktards in 3rd grade that ratted everybody out when the teacher got back in the room. seriously.

I haven't heard so much fucking crying in my life... hey move to some shot hole country and worry about being a fag or whatever when you have no food or place to live. I'm a so fucking sick and tired of a bunch of assholes crying about QUALITY PROBLEMS.

that's right, some loser that won't bake a cake for you is a QUALITY ISSUE!!!!!!! trying to stay alive because you happen to be a Christian, and not have your wife raped and your kids sold into slavery in sand land is a REAL FUCKING ISSUE, get it?

unlike he touched my ass 30 fucking years ago, and said something nasty to me. how about this for a new thing to go around #growthefuckup

and look I only became aware of pollys because all the FUCK HEADS that turned a COOL porn board into a crybaby it's all about me forum to be honest about it.

and one more thing, Trump isn't mine... got it?

and whatever the fuck ever you think I have on my mind, you are wrong. ask me , don't imagine, don't try to mind read. okay?

Grapesoda · 02-08-2018, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho

South Africa is actually a very interesting topic. It was, at one point, one of the most developed countries in the world, with its own space program, advanced infrastructure, and a stable economy. It was in fact the only country in Sub-Saharan Africa that was able to sustain a modern economy post 1960.

What not that many know is that the original lands, first colonized by the Dutch in the 17th century (who later became the Afrikaaners) were almost inhabited. The sole purpose of the first settlement of the Cape of Good Hope was to establish a small colony that could be used by the crews of the ships on their way to and back from Java. With more expansion, these later encountered Hotentots. However, the influx of most of the African, Bantu population didn't happen until much later.

After the British take over of the Cape Town at the end of the 18th century, slavery was abolished. The Afrikaaners fled into the inlands to establish their own independent enclaves. The discovery of Gold in these later led to the Boer War, the Brits invaded, the Boers were outnumbered and defeated in a horrific fashion. As a consequence, many of the impoverished Boers fled their farms to the majority British, big cities. One of the reasons that Afrikaans became a second official language in South Africa in the 1920's was to give them more access to education and to integrate them into the society. This eventually worked out and around the time of the WW II the poverty of Boers was no longer a major issue.

Even before the official apartheid era (pre - 1948), there was a mandated separation, native Africans were given reserved areas, where Europeans were not allowed to purchase land. And given the very same rights as long as they settled and kept on their own turf. The original motivation behind segregation is claimed to be to protect the Europeans from direct competition with Africans, which should have contributed to elevating the African majority as well.

What is also not often cited, based on the hard data, the African population actually did experience a major increase in their living standards during the Apartheid era. There were major investments into education, medicine, infrastructure. There were also for example more women with professional qualifications than in any other country in Africa.

The disposable income of the Africans in SA (adjusted for inflation) almost doubled between 1960 - 1980, the average life expectancy raised from mid thirties to 60 years. This also brought, as a consequence - a massive increase in the African population. While at the end of the WW II the European population in SA was at approx. 22 pct., by the end of the century it was only 12 pct., today it's estimated at around 9 pct.

After the ANC took over in the early 90's the country spiraled into a steady decline, an explosion in violent crime (in 2015 estimated 49 murders a day, by the official count), corruption, incompetence and overspending. Resembling more the conditions in other African countries. While the European minority is supposed to still contribute about 50 pct. of all the government income, they are also frequent targets of violence and raising demands for "black ownership" (this term is used officially).

you do realize a statement so contrary to the popular belief that blacks are a magical, special race and we would be living in another galaxy with a lifespan of a million years each by now if we would just stop fucking with them is not going to be accepted by this board

oppoten · 02-08-2018, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn

What is the basis for labeling him a Nazi?

NewNick is Jewish.

Nazi = white person who does not slavishly serve the Jewish interest. Trump kind of does, and he's still called a Nazi.

oppoten · 02-08-2018, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett

Yes, apparently all the white people now live in the slums and the blacks run everything.. horrible place now according to Trump..

White farmers are being murdered. Have some fucking respect.

Paul Markham · 02-09-2018, 01:53 AM

Trump campaigned on subjects Americans responded to. Build the Wall, stop mass migration and illegal migration. Bring jobs back to the US.

Hilary campaigned on more migrants, more globalisation and lost.

If a candidate steps up and campaigns for the lower 50% of society, he will wipe the floor of his opponents. The problem the 1% control who gets enough money to campaign. And they love more migrants and globalisation.

Paul Markham · 02-09-2018, 01:57 AM

Poverty rate in South Africa

Crime in South Africa

A shit hole or not?

pimpmaster9000 · 02-09-2018, 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda

that's not even slightly true...read the biz section stay away from politics and entertainment and you'll see the great stuff trump is doing

dude trump is a global joke...there is no global media conspiracy against him, he is what he is: a joke...

BaldBastard · 02-09-2018, 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Poverty rate in South Africa

Crime in South Africa

A shit hole or not?

Around one in 10 Czechs living below poverty level | Prague Monitor

Cyberattacks in Czech Republic on rise | Radio Prague

https://www.europenowjournal.org/201...-and-refugees/

A shit hole or not?

If your going sit here and quote right-wing sites all fucking day I may as well join in, there's one for every agenda you want to justify.

NewNick · 02-09-2018, 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn

What is the basis for labeling him a Nazi?

So you are ok with me labelling him a Baboon, but you draw the line at Nazi ?

NewNick · 02-09-2018, 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by oppoten

NewNick is Jewish.

Nazi = white person who does not slavishly serve the Jewish interest. Trump kind of does, and he's still called a Nazi.

Do you keep saying that I am Jewish because you think it is an insult ?

Or do you think it belittles or demeans me ?

Do you think that by saying I am Jewish you further your cause ?

Or that somehow it explains how I can hold views that you disagree with ?

It really is a poor argument, and inaccurate.

NewNick · 02-09-2018, 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda

I haven't read that at all... I've read that the trade agreements are in our favour and he's trying to bring stuff back to the states etc.

Trade agreements ?

What trade agreements ?, he has not made any.

He has broken some.

Trying to bring stuff back to the states ?

The only thing he is bringing back from abroad is ridicule.

I think you need to be a bit more circumspect about what you read.

nico-t · 02-09-2018, 05:12 AM

this thread is great.

What StefanG essentially is saying, is that every immigrant could be an Elon Musk, therefore letting in millions of immigrants from barbaric cultures is justified. Chaos, women are assaulted, safe zones on new years eve, concrete blocks at events as a last resort against crazy ISIS members flooding in to drive you over with a truck because EU puppets refuse to close borders (insanity!), but but but... maybe there's an Elon Musk between them so it's all good!

Leftist logic

CarlosTheGaucho · 02-09-2018, 05:17 AM

Since I know a thing or two about Czech Republic, I'll bite:

One in 10 living below poverty level - this is true, as in every society (apart from North Korea), the income is not distributed evenly. There is, however, a major distinction whether it is 10 pct. of the population as in Czech Republic or 95 pct. of the population as in Zimbabwe.

Cyberattacks - not sure what cyberattacks have to do with the living standards in a country

The "xenophobia" article - this was written by Jan Culik, who's a professor at a Scottish university (an academic and an outsider), by all counts an intelligent man. He runs what used to be sort of an alternative online magazine. A couple years ago I used to read it regularly, there was some interesting info, even about science etc. Up until he engaged full blown social justice warriors to contribute there.

The magazine went completely unhinged into a full pro-refugee, pro-uncontrolled migration, extreme anti-Trump derangement syndrome. Labeling every and any opposing view as "racist" "xenophobic" "stupid" etc. etc. It also featured pretty much any and every example of what was proved to be fake news peddled by the establishment "news" outlets such as NY Times (removing the bust of MLK from the oval office, fake "leaked" memo about the fact that the refugees contribute "billions" into the US economy etc.).

I even once wrote an article to be published there, refuting some of the one-sided, ill-informed claims, it was even well sourced - of course it was rejected, and that even in a very rude fashion. Should tell you a thing about how these "diversity" advocates care about the "diversity" of views.

As an example, the views presented in his online magazine are entirely in line with the extreme ideology of letting everybody in and then blame everybody else but those that came in for their failure to integrate into a first world society. The magazine, however, also recently lost about 80 pct. of its monthly page views so it appears I wasn't the only one to notice its shift towards a truly hysterical bias.

While it's true there has always been a strong nationalist presence in the country, and it didn't always manifest in a nice fashion, it also enabled to preserve the character and identity of the country for the years to come. Culik's views are truly masochistic towards the country that gave him his heritage and education.

All in all, at the end of the day, what I care the most about is that this homogenous country is one of the safest in the world (rated no. 6 I guess), has a high level of education (something like no 13 in the world I believe), and a high level, affordable healthcare. And I certainly do enjoy living in a country where you can let girls or women walk home at 2 AM without having to worry that they will get robbed or raped, and where you won't get persecuted by police for being "politically incorrect" on the web.

thommy · 02-09-2018, 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard

Problem is most of the humour about Trump abroad comes from the business sections of the papers, his economic policies are seen as a joke. The consensus amongst politicians here is that he's an Idiot.. but they hang in there and play the game for the sake of their own countries and just hope that the USA wakes up soon enough to recover damage he's doing.

i think he does not really have economic policies.
he is just doing the opposite what other are doing and hopes it will work. he ignores all historical facts and science and he is too lazy to read even a book to understand it.

He loudly roars populist phrases through the world of which he believes his brainless respond.

and when he gets so hard himself that he breaks this record for three days in a row, his alzheimer's help him not to remember it.

btw: very impressive that he can´t even WRITE Dow Jones

thommy · 02-09-2018, 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by nico-t

this thread is great.

What StefanG essentially is saying, is that every immigrant could be an Elon Musk, therefore letting in millions of immigrants from barbaric cultures is justified. Chaos, women are assaulted, safe zones on new years eve, concrete blocks at events as a last resort against crazy ISIS members flooding in to drive you over with a truck because EU puppets refuse to close borders (insanity!), but but but... maybe there's an Elon Musk between them so it's all good!

Leftist logic

well oppoteen, for example, denies the correctness of e=mc² until today because einstein was jewish.

and i personally believe that EVERY immigrant - no matter where he comes from and what education he got - can reach a human level far over yours.

so the question is than if we should get rid of the immigrants or rid of people like you.

and before you start to shoot back - imagine that i can say that WITH THE ABSOLUTE SAME RIGHT as you. because YOUR position is not proven and mine either.

ilnjscb · 02-09-2018, 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy

i think he does not really have economic policies.
he is just doing the opposite what other are doing and hopes it will work. he ignores all historical facts and science and he is too lazy to read even a book to understand it.

He loudly roars populist phrases through the world of which he believes his brainless respond.

and when he gets so hard himself that he breaks this record for three days in a row, his alzheimer's help him not to remember it.

btw: very impressive that he can´t even WRITE Dow Jones

If nobody knew you were an idiot before, they do now.

Either you are so stupid that you don't check to see if what you post is real - the fake tweet has "Dow Joans"!! - or you know it isn't real and you post it because you are a time wasting troll. That fake tweet has been widely debunked. The person who created it has said "Sweet mother of god. Not for one second did I think people would believe that to be genuine." I guess he didn't count on you.

If you want to come on here posting walls of text, at least have the decency not to be such an idiot.

https://www.snopes.com/did-trump-twe...ent-dow-joans/

ilnjscb · 02-09-2018, 06:11 AM

Here's south Africa

Poverty rate 50%

"The country has one of the highest rates of rape in the world, with some 65,000 rapes and other sexual assaults reported for the year ending in March 2012, or 127.6 per 100,000 people in the country.[14][15] The incidence of rape has led to the country being referred to as the "rape capital of the world".[16] One in three of the 4,000 women questioned by the Community of Information, Empowerment and Transparency said they had been raped in the past year.[17] More than 25% of South African men questioned in a survey published by the Medical Research Council (MRC) in June 2009 admitted to rape; of those, nearly half said they had raped more than one person.[18][19] Three out of four of those who had admitted rape indicated that they had attacked for the first time during their teenage years.[18] South Africa has amongst the highest incidences of child and baby rape in the world.[20]"

Sounds pretty bad to me. I'm going in a few weeks so I guess we'll see if it's any worse than last time.

pimpmaster9000 · 02-09-2018, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by nico-t

this thread is great.

What StefanG essentially is saying, is that every immigrant could be an Elon Musk, therefore letting in millions of immigrants from barbaric cultures is justified. Chaos, women are assaulted, safe zones on new years eve, concrete blocks at events as a last resort against crazy ISIS members flooding in to drive you over with a truck because EU puppets refuse to close borders (insanity!), but but but... maybe there's an Elon Musk between them so it's all good!

Leftist logic

I agree we should keep out barbaric cultures...lets start with americans...they drop by faaaaaaaaaar the most bombs, rape the most, assault women AND men the most sheeeet they even founded and supported alquaeda and ISIS...school shootings? sheeet I do not think of pakistan first LOL...

oh wait...I forgot, they are white and there is a huge double standard

carry on

Grapesoda · 02-09-2018, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy

well oppoteen, for example, denies the correctness of e=mc² until today because einstein was jewish.

.

you are an asshole, NOBODY needs to be gotten rid of what the fuck is wrong with you? Are you advocating murder now? that's politically correct, right? what a fucking tool. BTW your English language skills suck. and I only say that to you so you can pay better attention. many times I think you are a retard due to incomprehensible dialogue. your points don't correlate or make sense. and I think it's ESL, or maybe you do ride the short bus?

Grapesoda · 02-09-2018, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio

I agree we should keep out barbaric cultures...lets start with americans...they drop by faaaaaaaaaar the most bombs, rape the most, assault women AND men the most sheeeet they even founded and supported alquaeda and ISIS...school shootings? sheeet I do not think of pakistan first LOL...

oh wait...I forgot, they are white and there is a huge double standard

carry on

dear asshole, you act like we enjoy the shit our crappy gov does, far from correct. I wish they would leave you stupid fucks alone with all your shit hole problems

the us gov is running wild like mad dogs in heat.

I CANT MAKE THEM STOP!!!!! what the fuck do you want ME TO DO. hmmm..I suppose I could sit around and say stupid shit like you and thommy so I could at least feel important.... ???

BaldBastard · 02-09-2018, 07:45 AM

Trump supporters and extreme right 'share widest range of junk news' | University of Oxford

Professor Phil Howard, director of the Computational Propaganda Project, said: 'There is an upside to all of this. It appears that only one part of the political spectrum ? the far right ? is really the target for extremist, sensational and conspiratorial content. Over social media, moderates and centrists tend not to be as susceptible.

Grapesoda · 02-09-2018, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by oppoten

White farmers are being murdered. Have some fucking respect.

it's only important if non whites are killed to the libbys

Robbie · 02-09-2018, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard

Professor Phil Howard, director of the Computational Propaganda Project, said: 'There is an upside to all of this. It appears that only one part of the political spectrum ? the far right ? is really the target for extremist, sensational and conspiratorial content. Over social media, moderates and centrists tend not to be as susceptible.

Because he thinks he isn't "extreme" and thinks that CNN is a "centrist" media outlet.

Crazy people never think they are "crazy". And extreme leftists & right wing never think they are "extreme".

Trust me...normal hard working American men and women identify with a guy like Trump far more than they do some left wing extremist professor who watches MSNBC.

BaldBastard · 02-09-2018, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

Because he thinks he isn't "extreme" and thinks that CNN is a "centrist" media outlet.

Crazy people never think they are "crazy". And extreme leftists & right wing never think they are "extreme".

Trust me...normal hard working American men and women identify with a guy like Trump far more than they do some left wing extremist professor who watches MSNBC.

Its not a 1 person opinion that's offered but after a team study

The Computational Propaganda Project â€“ Algorithms, Automation and Digital Politics

Put politics aside and have a good read because as we all know both sides of the political spectrum will be using this not just one and that will go for all counties not just the USA.

Read this one on the NFL

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/a...snt-gone-away/

Read that, then look up what's been going down in Syria in the past week, fake Russian plane shot down in grand propaganda style followed up with more Chemical attacks and then countered with American airstrikes... and media and more importantly internet ...says shit

That's not coincidence you know..

This is the end game for the Russians: to turn Americans against Americans, to so distract us with internal divisions that we’re not able to pay attention to things happening abroad.

Robbie · 02-09-2018, 09:39 AM

I prefer to use my own eyes, ears, and brain instead of reading opinions.

I don't blame you for your view of politics in the US at all though.
CNN is low ranked and a joke now in the US...but they are still a major player internationally.
And news organizations around the world depend on them for news feeds from the US.
So a lot of what people hear and read about the US is straight up propaganda of the Democrat Party in the US.
Haven't you ever wondered why there is NEVER any "good" news about Pres. Trump?
It was exactly the same way when Reagan was Pres. in the 1980s.
The media in the US spread the "news" around the world that Reagan was a crazy, senile "Cowboy" who was isolating the US, going to ruin the economy, and cause nuclear war with the Soviet Union.
The exact OPPOSITE of all those things happened.
Just like all their predictions on Trump have all ended up with the opposite happening.
I'm just old enough to see a pattern of things...politicians & media lying to the people all my life.

Steve Rupe · 02-09-2018, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy

i think he does not really have economic policies.
he is just doing the opposite what other are doing and hopes it will work. he ignores all historical facts and science and he is too lazy to read even a book to understand it.

He loudly roars populist phrases through the world of which he believes his brainless respond.

and when he gets so hard himself that he breaks this record for three days in a row, his alzheimer's help him not to remember it.

btw: very impressive that he can´t even WRITE Dow Jones

It is a made up tweet. Never happened. You should investigate before posting such obvious nonsense.

BaldBastard · 02-09-2018, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

I prefer to use my own eyes, ears, and brain instead of reading opinions.

I don't blame you for your view of politics in the US at all though.
CNN is low ranked and a joke now in the US...but they are still a major player internationally.
And news organizations around the world depend on them for news feeds from the US.
So a lot of what people hear and read about the US is straight up propaganda of the Democrat Party in the US.
Haven't you ever wondered why there is NEVER any "good" news about Pres. Trump?
It was exactly the same way when Reagan was Pres. in the 1980s.
The media in the US spread the "news" around the world that Reagan was a crazy, senile "Cowboy" who was isolating the US, going to ruin the economy, and cause nuclear war with the Soviet Union.
The exact OPPOSITE of all those things happened.
Just like all their predictions on Trump have all ended up with the opposite happening.
I'm just old enough to see a pattern of things...politicians & media lying to the people all my life.

But its not opinions its what top scientists on the topic are concluding, and like you say its both sides

Trump will do fine as long as he can slash Government spending, man himself said 10 trillion in 10 years.. and significantly increase Exports.

thommy · 02-09-2018, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve Rupe

It is a made up tweet. Never happened. You should investigate before posting such obvious nonsense.

you are right - i was in that case a victim of the fake news and take the punishment for that mistake.

thommy · 02-09-2018, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard

But its not opinions its what top scientists on the topic are concluding, and like you say its both sides

Trump will do fine as long as he can slash Government spending, man himself said 10 trillion in 10 years.. and significantly increase Exports.

well that´s an interesting point because under trump the exports of goods increased indeed but only because the IMPORTS increased even more. so he should have learned that US can not export without import because without the cheap work from outside they can not compete.

here are some numbers:

Exports increased to $2,329.3 billion in 2017 from $2,208.1 billion in 2016. Goods were $1,551.4 billion in 2017, up from $1,455.7 billion in 2016. Services were $777.9 billion in 2017, up from $752.4 billion in 2016.

looks quite good on the amateur view but:

Imports increased to $2,895.3 billion in 2017 from $2,712.9 billion in 2016. Goods were $2,361.5 billion in 2017, up from $2,208.2 billion in 2016. Services were $533.9 billion in 2017, up from $504.7 billion in 2016.

so what is left at the end of the balance is this:

For goods, the deficit was $810.0 billion in 2017, up from $752.5 billion in 2016. For services, the surplus was $244.0 billion in 2017, down from $247.7 billion in 2016.

and this is just the beginning because in 2016 there have been still a lot of trades with contracts what are not existing anymore.

if this is MAGA i missundersood something.

Robbie · 02-09-2018, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard

But its not opinions its what top scientists on the topic are concluding, and like you say its both sides

Trump will do fine as long as he can slash Government spending, man himself said 10 trillion in 10 years.. and significantly increase Exports.

What I'm telling you is...there is no "science" on that topic. That is a group of elitists working out of a very liberal biased university.

That's not surprising if you think about it. All university campuses are very liberal in the U.S.
And when I say "liberal" I don't mean liberal like I am.

Their definition of "liberal" is being in lockstep with the Democrat Party, shutting down any speakers who try to appear on their campus who have "conservative views", and apparently now...being "liberal" means worshiping the establishment.

In other words...the exact OPPOSITE of what being liberal used to mean. lol

That link you posted is no different than me linking to a paper written by people who are funded by conservative think tanks.
What you linked to is bought and paid for (their salary's) by people who have an agenda.

And that makes perfect sense. Nobody is just going to decide "Hey, I think I'll do a study on x-y-z and NOT get paid to do it"

Nope. EVERY "scientific" study is bought and paid for by somebody who is wanting to get a paper written that verifies their pre-existing conclusions.

Both on the "right" and the "left".

Difference is...the MEDIA presents the "left" papers as "science" and the "right" papers as political propaganda.
Truth is, they ALL are.

I guess it's always been that way throughout history...but my eyes get a little more open with every passing year of my life as I see the same things being repeated with a different cast of characters.

femdomdestiny · 02-09-2018, 11:19 AM

Can't wait to see these cute kids growing and coming to enrich us.

Paul Markham · 02-10-2018, 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard

Around one in 10 Czechs living below poverty level | Prague Monitor

Cyberattacks in Czech Republic on rise | Radio Prague

https://www.europenowjournal.org/201...-and-refugees/

A shit hole or not?

If your going sit here and quote right-wing sites all fucking day I may as well join in, there's one for every agenda you want to justify.

Why is the Czech Republic So Hostile to Muslims and Refugees? Because Czechs want to lower the poverty rate at home and not take on more mouths to feed. Tell me the countries that held a referendum on migrants. You'll find it a short list.

https://www.google.cz/search?dcr=0&q...1 242&bih=579

Paul Markham · 02-10-2018, 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy

well oppoteen, for example, denies the correctness of e=mc² until today because einstein was jewish.

and i personally believe that EVERY immigrant - no matter where he comes from and what education he got - can reach a human level far over yours.

so the question is than if we should get rid of the immigrants or rid of people like you.

and before you start to shoot back - imagine that i can say that WITH THE ABSOLUTE SAME RIGHT as you. because YOUR position is not proven and mine either.

Here's a link for you to prove you are right or massively wrong again.

https://www.google.cz/search?dcr=0&b....0.8S3jEzxNudU

https://www.google.cz/search?dcr=0&b....0.TcA7taeArHg

Idiot.

Paul Markham · 02-10-2018, 03:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thommy

well that´s an interesting point because under trump the exports of goods increased indeed but only because the IMPORTS increased even more. so he should have learned that US can not export without import because without the cheap work from outside they can not compete.

here are some numbers:

Exports increased to $2,329.3 billion in 2017 from $2,208.1 billion in 2016. Goods were $1,551.4 billion in 2017, up from $1,455.7 billion in 2016. Services were $777.9 billion in 2017, up from $752.4 billion in 2016.

looks quite good on the amateur view but:

Imports increased to $2,895.3 billion in 2017 from $2,712.9 billion in 2016. Goods were $2,361.5 billion in 2017, up from $2,208.2 billion in 2016. Services were $533.9 billion in 2017, up from $504.7 billion in 2016.

so what is left at the end of the balance is this:

For goods, the deficit was $810.0 billion in 2017, up from $752.5 billion in 2016. For services, the surplus was $244.0 billion in 2017, down from $247.7 billion in 2016.

and this is just the beginning because in 2016 there have been still a lot of trades with contracts what are not existing anymore.

if this is MAGA i missundersood something.

So losing jobs at home is beneficial to who?

Paul Markham · 02-10-2018, 03:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by femdomdestiny

Can't wait to see these cute kids growing and coming to enrich us.

Islam was meant to be spread by the sword. Mohammed's first attempt to spread Islam to Mecca was bu the sword.

https://www.google.cz/search?dcr=0&b...m+by+the+sword

https://www.google.cz/search?dcr=0&b....0.75oxuedSYgg

Today's problems in the ME are people determined to spread their version of Islam on the rest of the people. https://www.google.cz/search?dcr=0&b....0.fPIVGB6PX3s

pimpmaster9000 · 02-10-2018, 04:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

So losing jobs at home is beneficial to who?

CaptainHowdy · 02-10-2018, 04:17 AM

So ... who won??

pimpmaster9000 · 02-10-2018, 04:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Islam was meant to be spread by the sword. Mohammed's first attempt to spread Islam to Mecca was bu the sword. ]

paul the expert on islam LOL what a fucking joke...

also paul:

expert on economy
expert on webcams
expert on anything after 1min google

post like paul:

google (random topic) + negative connotation = pauls truth...

examples:

cats + bad = US academic claims cats are bad for human kind and should be killed

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/182230...ped-or-killed/

Grapesoda · 02-10-2018, 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by femdomdestiny

Can't wait to see these cute kids growing and coming to enrich us.

they have been doing that for 30 years, you already see the results...

Grapesoda · 02-10-2018, 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio

paul the expert on islam LOL what a fucking joke...

also paul:

expert on economy
expert on webcams
expert on anything after 1min google

post like paul:

google (random topic) + negative connotation = pauls truth...

examples:

cats + bad = US academic claims cats are bad for human kind and should be killed

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/182230...ped-or-killed/

you run your fucking mouth full blast what the fuck do you know?

Grapesoda · 02-10-2018, 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie

Because he thinks he isn't "extreme" and thinks that CNN is a "centrist" media outlet.

Crazy people never think they are "crazy". And extreme leftists & right wing never think they are "extreme".

Trust me...normal hard working American men and women identify with a guy like Trump far more than they do some left wing extremist professor who watches MSNBC.

femdomdestiny · 02-10-2018, 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grapesoda

they have been doing that for 30 years, you already see the results...

I know that very well, probably better than 99% people posting here.

02-08-2018, 01:11 PM	#56
CarlosTheGaucho Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 9,502	South Africa is actually a very interesting topic. It was, at one point, one of the most developed countries in the world, with its own space program, advanced infrastructure, and a stable economy. It was in fact the only country in Sub-Saharan Africa that was able to sustain a modern economy post 1960. What not that many know is that the original lands, first colonized by the Dutch in the 17th century (who later became the Afrikaaners) were almost inhabited. The sole purpose of the first settlement of the Cape of Good Hope was to establish a small colony that could be used by the crews of the ships on their way to and back from Java. With more expansion, these later encountered Hotentots. However, the influx of most of the African, Bantu population didn't happen until much later. After the British take over of the Cape Town at the end of the 18th century, slavery was abolished. The Afrikaaners fled into the inlands to establish their own independent enclaves. The discovery of Gold in these later led to the Boer War, the Brits invaded, the Boers were outnumbered and defeated in a horrific fashion. As a consequence, many of the impoverished Boers fled their farms to the majority British, big cities. One of the reasons that Afrikaans became a second official language in South Africa in the 1920's was to give them more access to education and to integrate them into the society. This eventually worked out and around the time of the WW II the poverty of Boers was no longer a major issue. Even before the official apartheid era (pre - 1948), there was a mandated separation, native Africans were given reserved areas, where Europeans were not allowed to purchase land. And given the very same rights as long as they settled and kept on their own turf. The original motivation behind segregation is claimed to be to protect the Europeans from direct competition with Africans, which should have contributed to elevating the African majority as well. What is also not often cited, based on the hard data, the African population actually did experience a major increase in their living standards during the Apartheid era. There were major investments into education, medicine, infrastructure. There were also for example more women with professional qualifications than in any other country in Africa. The disposable income of the Africans in SA (adjusted for inflation) almost doubled between 1960 - 1980, the average life expectancy raised from mid thirties to 60 years. This also brought, as a consequence - a massive increase in the African population. While at the end of the WW II the European population in SA was at approx. 22 pct., by the end of the century it was only 12 pct., today it's estimated at around 9 pct. After the ANC took over in the early 90's the country spiraled into a steady decline, an explosion in violent crime (in 2015 estimated 49 murders a day, by the official count), corruption, incompetence and overspending. Resembling more the conditions in other African countries. While the European minority is supposed to still contribute about 50 pct. of all the government income, they are also frequent targets of violence and raising demands for "black ownership" (this term is used officially). __________________ CTG Media \| skype: carlosprague \| cb \|at\| ctgmedia \|dot\| net \| Want to make more with your Dating Traffic? \| Read My Educational Series \| Read my Adult Biz Chronicles \| Did your ad revenue drop by 40 pct. or more last year?

02-09-2018, 01:53 AM	#63
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02-09-2018, 01:57 AM	#64
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	Poverty rate in South Africa Crime in South Africa A shit hole or not? __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

02-09-2018, 05:17 AM	#71
CarlosTheGaucho Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 9,502	Since I know a thing or two about Czech Republic, I'll bite: One in 10 living below poverty level - this is true, as in every society (apart from North Korea), the income is not distributed evenly. There is, however, a major distinction whether it is 10 pct. of the population as in Czech Republic or 95 pct. of the population as in Zimbabwe. Cyberattacks - not sure what cyberattacks have to do with the living standards in a country The "xenophobia" article - this was written by Jan Culik, who's a professor at a Scottish university (an academic and an outsider), by all counts an intelligent man. He runs what used to be sort of an alternative online magazine. A couple years ago I used to read it regularly, there was some interesting info, even about science etc. Up until he engaged full blown social justice warriors to contribute there. The magazine went completely unhinged into a full pro-refugee, pro-uncontrolled migration, extreme anti-Trump derangement syndrome. Labeling every and any opposing view as "racist" "xenophobic" "stupid" etc. etc. It also featured pretty much any and every example of what was proved to be fake news peddled by the establishment "news" outlets such as NY Times (removing the bust of MLK from the oval office, fake "leaked" memo about the fact that the refugees contribute "billions" into the US economy etc.). I even once wrote an article to be published there, refuting some of the one-sided, ill-informed claims, it was even well sourced - of course it was rejected, and that even in a very rude fashion. Should tell you a thing about how these "diversity" advocates care about the "diversity" of views. As an example, the views presented in his online magazine are entirely in line with the extreme ideology of letting everybody in and then blame everybody else but those that came in for their failure to integrate into a first world society. The magazine, however, also recently lost about 80 pct. of its monthly page views so it appears I wasn't the only one to notice its shift towards a truly hysterical bias. While it's true there has always been a strong nationalist presence in the country, and it didn't always manifest in a nice fashion, it also enabled to preserve the character and identity of the country for the years to come. Culik's views are truly masochistic towards the country that gave him his heritage and education. All in all, at the end of the day, what I care the most about is that this homogenous country is one of the safest in the world (rated no. 6 I guess), has a high level of education (something like no 13 in the world I believe), and a high level, affordable healthcare. And I certainly do enjoy living in a country where you can let girls or women walk home at 2 AM without having to worry that they will get robbed or raped, and where you won't get persecuted by police for being "politically incorrect" on the web. __________________ CTG Media \| skype: carlosprague \| cb \|at\| ctgmedia \|dot\| net \| Want to make more with your Dating Traffic? \| Read My Educational Series \| Read my Adult Biz Chronicles \| Did your ad revenue drop by 40 pct. or more last year?

02-09-2018, 09:39 AM	#83
Robbie Leaner, Meaner, Faster Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Vegas Posts: 20,841	I prefer to use my own eyes, ears, and brain instead of reading opinions. I don't blame you for your view of politics in the US at all though. CNN is low ranked and a joke now in the US...but they are still a major player internationally. And news organizations around the world depend on them for news feeds from the US. So a lot of what people hear and read about the US is straight up propaganda of the Democrat Party in the US. Haven't you ever wondered why there is NEVER any "good" news about Pres. Trump? It was exactly the same way when Reagan was Pres. in the 1980s. The media in the US spread the "news" around the world that Reagan was a crazy, senile "Cowboy" who was isolating the US, going to ruin the economy, and cause nuclear war with the Soviet Union. The exact OPPOSITE of all those things happened. Just like all their predictions on Trump have all ended up with the opposite happening. I'm just old enough to see a pattern of things...politicians & media lying to the people all my life. __________________ -Robbie ClaudiaMarie.Com

02-08-2018, 09:00 AM	#55
BaldBastard Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Sydney Posts: 14,495	So what great trade agreements has he done? like not just talked about but put in place? And your aware Australian's prime minster was/is a successful business man? (top200 wealthy in the country member) the kind with no bankruptcy's and releases his tax to the public for scrutiny, actually that's law here, got to keep the politicians in check ;). Here's an interesting read for you. Stoking a fire with gasoline: why the US share market shuddered BTW I guess your all for Trump increasing Government jobs by 15% so far and adding another Trillion in Debt. What you voted for right?

02-09-2018, 05:12 AM	#70
nico-t emperor of my world Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: nethalands Posts: 29,904	this thread is great. What StefanG essentially is saying, is that every immigrant could be an Elon Musk, therefore letting in millions of immigrants from barbaric cultures is justified. Chaos, women are assaulted, safe zones on new years eve, concrete blocks at events as a last resort against crazy ISIS members flooding in to drive you over with a truck because EU puppets refuse to close borders (insanity!), but but but... maybe there's an Elon Musk between them so it's all good! Leftist logic

02-09-2018, 06:11 AM	#75
ilnjscb Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 8,469	Here's south Africa Poverty rate 50% "The country has one of the highest rates of rape in the world, with some 65,000 rapes and other sexual assaults reported for the year ending in March 2012, or 127.6 per 100,000 people in the country.[14][15] The incidence of rape has led to the country being referred to as the "rape capital of the world".[16] One in three of the 4,000 women questioned by the Community of Information, Empowerment and Transparency said they had been raped in the past year.[17] More than 25% of South African men questioned in a survey published by the Medical Research Council (MRC) in June 2009 admitted to rape; of those, nearly half said they had raped more than one person.[18][19] Three out of four of those who had admitted rape indicated that they had attacked for the first time during their teenage years.[18] South Africa has amongst the highest incidences of child and baby rape in the world.[20]" Sounds pretty bad to me. I'm going in a few weeks so I guess we'll see if it's any worse than last time.

02-09-2018, 07:45 AM	#79
BaldBastard Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Sydney Posts: 14,495	Trump supporters and extreme right 'share widest range of junk news' \| University of Oxford Professor Phil Howard, director of the Computational Propaganda Project, said: 'There is an upside to all of this. It appears that only one part of the political spectrum ? the far right ? is really the target for extremist, sensational and conspiratorial content. Over social media, moderates and centrists tend not to be as susceptible.

02-09-2018, 11:19 AM	#89
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02-10-2018, 04:17 AM	#95
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