tfto

Dude, in which direction?. Up 95 or down 95?

Rochard

So when you say "They (the Republicans) hired Fusion GPS" it means... They didn't partially fund this opposition research?

You seem to think this is two different things when it's not. The Washington Free Beacon, a conservative political website (most likely funded by Rubio), originally hired Fusion GPS to do opposition research on Trump. When Trump won the primary the DNC started to pick up the tab. The information Fusion GPS collected when it was being funded by The Washington Free Beacon wasn't thrown out, but instead was used in the Steele Dossier. The Washington Free Beacon in fact partially funded the Steele Dossier.

All of this is a smoke screen. It doesn't matter who funded it. It doesn't matter if it is politically biased. It's opposition research. Both sides does it. It's not illegal. It's standard in all Presidential elections. The Republican Party (and Fox News) is trying poke holes in who funded this, and frankly it's completely irrelevant. The investigation started three years before Trump announced he was running for office. The investigation had nothing to do with Trump - the investigation had to do with a US citizen working as a spy for Moscow. The investigation started to look at Trump because members of his campaign - namely Flynn and Sessions - talking to the Russian government. Again, nothing to do with Trump. Flynn and Sessions weren't targeted, but instead got picked up in the intelligence community routinely monitoring Russian agents on US soil. The investigation continued when a foreign government told the United States government an American citizen in London was bragging about how the Russians have dirt on Hillary, and how Russia was helping the Trump campaign.

This is nothing more than obstruction of justice by the Republican party.

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Acepimp

What Bullshit? And what Russian trolls? You're having trouble discerning facts from fake news.

There is no trump Russia collusion. Turn off the fake news & wake the fuck up.

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"WASHINGTON (AP) ? In a story Feb. 2 about a Republican memo on the Russia investigation, The Associated Press erroneously reported that a former British spy?s work on an opposition research project was initially funded by the conservative Washington Free Beacon. Though the former spy, Christopher Steele, was hired by a firm that was initially funded by the Washington Free Beacon, he did not begin work on the project until after Democratic groups had begun funding it.

A corrected version of the story is below:"

https://apnews.com/63c883156e314b68b86209d3b63890f5

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Rochard

This message is hidden because Acepimp is on your ignore list.
This message is hidden because onwebcam is on your ignore list.

Nope.

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No wonder this idiot keeps repeating shit that is already discussed.

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Acepimp

Ignoring facts does not make them untrue.

These Hillbots are SO desperate to believe Putin hacked the election and Trump will be removed.

Trump Derangement Syndrome induced by lying MSM. Sad.

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This message is hidden because Acepimp is on your ignore list because he lies so fucking much.

crockett

No, Trump wanted to use the memo as a excuse to fire Rosinstine so he could plant someone to fire Muller. The problem with that is the Senate will not confirm anyone who will fire Muller..

Trump is still fucked. He broke the kaw, he knows it, he knows he's fucked but he's trying everything possible to unfuck himself but he's in political quicksand at this point. All his squirming just makes him sink deeper..

The only pepole who still believe Trump at this point are the nutters like onewebcam, AssPimple and the hate democrats not matter what's like Robbie and Vendillza..

Normal people, the people who actually matter know he's guilty as sin..

Sarn

Great jobs numbers and finally, after many years, rising wages- and nobody even talks about them. Only Russia, Russia, Russia, despite the fact that, after a year of looking, there is No Collusion!
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...46200488271872

Rasmussen just announced that my approval rating jumped to 49%, a far better number than I had in winning the Election, and higher than certain “sacred cows.” Other Trump polls are way up also. So why does the media refuse to write this? Oh well, someday!
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...98726381457409

Sarn

Russia to rising wages in USA

Rochard

But the memo hasn't changed anything. It surely hasn't helped Trump. If anything it's done the direct opposite. Trump's base is going to continue to believe what it believes - let them fap fap fap to Fox News.

Trump cannot, under any circumstances, fire Robert Mueller. In the event he does, there will be a move to impeach him, and then demands for a new special prosecutor.

This is not going away.

This is why I walked away from the Republican party. We had a dozen investigations into Hillary Clinton, and frankly she handled them all. We have on investigation into Trump and now the entire Justice Department is biased?

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Rochard

A sitting President is being accused of colluding with a foreign government to rig a US election and this will most likely end in impeachment. But let's talk about his ratings.

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crockett

You claiming everything you don't want to hear is fake, doesn't equal discussed. You just repeat outright lies and proclaim you win..

You say ridiculous shit like the dossier was proven to be fraudulent which is a lie. Many things in that dossier have been proven to be accurate and have been verified by other sources.

Nothing, nothing at all has been proven to be fake, just somethings like the hooker stories can't be verified..

You are basically the 3 dumb monkeys wrapped up in one.. You lie, you don't listen and you won't open your eyes..

crockett

Btw, when this is all said and done, we will see Nunes go down for abuse of power.

Sarn

I am not are believe in the colluding, I think it is speculation by the media. Trump win because peoples support him. I bet on it involved the USA secret services, CIA FBI & DIA(Michael Flynn). All they have assets in foreign countries for use, that's why we not will know the truth, I think the investigation will end with nothing. Trump just show for secret services - that POTUS is the boss and they work for him, and politics, not their business, that's why he "attacks" them.

RedFred

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The Russian news going "He's ours again" (meaning Trump) does not look good tho. All Americans should recognize that Russia is NOT our friend. EVERY American should be united on this point but no, some prefer to point fingers internally at each other.

This is, of course, exactly what Russia wants. Therefore I will continue to plead for unity and common ground. If Trump is convicted, or Democrats go to jail, NONE of it is good for America and, in the end, Russia wins. Let's prevent that ok?

Cue The Beatles 'Come Together'....right now. LOL

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Acepimp

LoLoL!!!!


The conspiracy nuts keep saying Trump wants to fire Mueller. Has he said that? No, and there's no evidence after more than a year, except on the democrats.



NOT ACCURATE- There is no investigation into Trump. HE is NOT under investigation. Man, it's like talking to 5 year olds lol. The investigation is into alleged Russian interference in the election. Trump is in no way in danger of impeachment. Fact.



So you see Rochard, the Mueller probe is based on fake intelligence that Hillary paid $12 million for. Of course Trump CAN fire Mueller if he wanted to. There's no need, since the probe has exposed Russia collusion with the Steele dossier, as well as the corrupt FBI "secret society" that was abusing power to help Hillary influence the election. Make sense?

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It was good trolling for haters

The Porn Nerd

How typically Russian. LOL
Bring back the Nude Mews.
At least I got to see Muscovite titties.

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crockett

LOL fucking inbred nazis..

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WRONG

read this

New York Times

WASHINGTON ? President Trump ordered the firing last June of Robert S. Mueller III, the special counsel overseeing the Russia investigation, according to four people told of the matter, but ultimately backed down after the White House counsel threatened to resign rather than carry out the directive.

The West Wing confrontation marks the first time Mr. Trump is known to have tried to fire the special counsel. Mr. Mueller learned about the episode in recent months as his investigators interviewed current and former senior White House officials in his inquiry into whether the president obstructed justice.

Amid the first wave of news media reports that Mr. Mueller was examining a possible obstruction case, the president began to argue that Mr. Mueller had three conflicts of interest that disqualified him from overseeing the investigation, two of the people said.

First, he claimed that a dispute years ago over fees at Trump National Golf Club in Sterling, Va., had prompted Mr. Mueller, the F.B.I. director at the time, to resign his membership. The president also said Mr. Mueller could not be impartial because he had most recently worked for the law firm that previously represented the president?s son-in-law, Jared Kushner. Finally, the president said, Mr. Mueller had been interviewed to return as the F.B.I. director the day before he was appointed special counsel in May.

After receiving the president?s order to fire Mr. Mueller, the White House counsel, Donald F. McGahn II, refused to ask the Justice Department to dismiss the special counsel, saying he would quit instead, the people said. They spoke on the condition of anonymity because they did not want to be identified discussing a continuing investigation.

Mr. McGahn disagreed with the president?s case and told senior White House officials that firing Mr. Mueller would have a catastrophic effect on Mr. Trump?s presidency. Mr. McGahn also told White House officials that Mr. Trump would not follow through on the dismissal on his own. The president then backed off (because he's a fucking coward hiding behind others)

Bladewire

It's nice that you admit your man Trump is a fucking liar. Looks like reality is starting to sink in for you

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VRPdommy

I might want to correct your thinking on this.
The key here is to break the chain of evidence and witnesses.
So while Papadopoulos and Manafort are still waiting on proper court, pleading not guilty, on the hopes trump can stop this.
If the Republicans could get the surveillance in question discredited, the evidence against them goes out the window. And perhaps ties to Trump. Even if Trump has no culpability in any of the Russia stuff, it looks as if he is culpable for Obstruction.

But Flynn was under investigation of the NSA and Page and others under investigation with the FBI years before Trump ran for POTUS. The campaign actually tied them up together in a neat little bow. Adding more credence to the investigation.

As long as nobody is only convicted in the court of public opinion, I'm happy to hear those that would want to throw it all out on a few misleading and/or incorrect facts.
It's just not going to change much.
Eventually, the real case will be presented with real evidence and not hearsay.


Wishful thinking... It is more a play to have public support for doing things that they should not be attempting in the near term. The Republicans, lead only by some, want to create enough disbelief to make it through the next election should Mueller investigation run that long. We have been told he is not the kinda guy that would want to end this at election time so it is either in the next 3-6 months or after the mid-term election.

Many republicans are to be dammed either way. If they talk anything against trump, they 'may' face a backlash from voters in their districts. So you can see the most vocal are those that had heavy support for trump last election.

But what worries me is these boneheads are likely to inspire riots soon enough even if that is not their intent.
You know much of this looking very familiar with a era we call McCarthyism.

Acepimp

The New York Times, "according to 4 people??" Really?? What 4 people??? Sorry, they got caught posting fake news and are not credible.

Trump slams report he tried to fire Robert Mueller as ‘fake news’

“Fake news, fake news. Typical New York Times. Fake stories,” Trump told reporters. “I haven’t given it any thought. I mean, I’ve been reading about it from you people, you say, ‘Oh, I’m gonna dismiss him.’ No, I’m not dismissing anybody,” Trump said.

I prefer facts. Let us know when you have some

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There's been so much gaslighting from the GOP to try and muddy up the waters that it's easy for people to forget the simple facts , and the words straight out of Trump's mouth.

Trump went on national TV and asked Russia to commit cyber espionage against the United States of America to help him win the election. And then when the emails are hacked and released their released in coordination with specific things the campaign was doing at the time and Trump's people bragged about what was about to happen in tweets before it even happened.

The day after Trump fired Comey he bragged to Russians, inside the Whitehouse saying ?I faced great pressure because of Russia. That?s taken off.? oh and then there's Jeff Sessions the recused himself from the Russia investigation because he lied in front of Congress about his ties to Russia. Then there's the two felony guilty pleas from the Trump team. Then there's Trump's own children bragging about how much money he gets from Russia.

These are all undisputed facts provided by Trump and his children.

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Republicans are going to spark riots when liberal talking heads on TV are literally calling for their mindless drones to do just that

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We all know onwebcam isnt MERCAN because he's posting like a lunitic during the super bowl

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I don't watch TV. If it's on which is very rare it's a movie.. Hell I went to the grocery and was like "why the hell is it so busy? Is it suppose to snow?" That's when I realized it was Superbowl Sunday. lol.

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If you ever get to NYC, let me know. I'm a little over an hour from the city

Rochard

There are no hopes that Trump can stop this - meaning the charges against Papadopoulos and Manafort. This would mean Trump would need to pardon them before he is impeached, which is highly unlikely. Also, Papadopoulos has already put in a guilty plea (and has flipped).

They can try to discredit this as much as they want. This only plays to their base. Everything Nunes said in his so called "memo" is either already known or utterly fake. For example, Nunes claims in the FISA warrant it was not mentioned that the dossier came from a political source while the Democrats say it was. Who are you going to believe - A Congressman who has to recuse himself from the investigation because of his past actions and involvement with the Trump campaign, or a Democrat who is not under investigation?

I can't wait for this to be over. You know heads are going to roll no matter what. You know they are going through Trump's business deals and turning up all kinds of shit - You have to know this.

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Paul Markham

So many assumptions that have no proof.

No government emails should be deleted.

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The Democrats have to come up with a reason a person that was viewed as a joke, beat their queen bee. Whatever was found or not was it true? Clinton drew more hate than the Democrats expected. But the Democrats rigged it so she was their choice the people didn't like that enough to put a joker into the White House.

Because his message resonated with them.

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Of course I know that they are finding all kinds of crimes in his finances and many are from a long history that should have been looked at 5-10 years ago.
More dirty money is harbored in the US than any other nation on earth.
There has been no desire or funding to go after it. many politicians seem to like the idea they hide the money here over other nations. Trump has been a tool for many Russian oligarchs to do just that. Go Figure.

But what I have been trying to convey is that trumps tactics are to discredit the intel of surveillance and open the possibility to throw it out.
Once you break a chain of evidence, following that, all intel that was found as a consequence of that now broken chain is thrown out.
It's a normal tactic in any defense.

I'm not saying it will be successful. But they will try because they have to.
The first step in that is to create justification in the public's eye so there is less backlash.
And to demean, belittle and demonize everyone in your way is the second part of it.
But POTUS has a lot of privilege and power that he might just be able to get away with this. I'm sure 'some' of his legal team thinks so. The Supreme Court will ultimately be called upon for many decisions on these matters.

There is plenty of other intel but I personally think that Manafort has told trump that if he makes it to trial, he will turn on him and make a deal. Hence the tremendous effort.

A pardon is a whole new problem for Mueller and the government depending on when it comes, if it does. But a pardon does not break the chain of evidence and does not serve Trump or he may have done it already. So Manafort has forced the president's hand on this. But manafort has plenty of time to turn on trump as Mueller has delayed bringing this to trial. And I think that is helping him build a larger obstruction charge.

Congress has made it clear that the special counsel is staying.
This is what he has left. You just need to see the overall tactic for what it is.
It's really about breaking the chain of evidence to break the ties to trump himself.
None of his financial issues can be charged to him while he is sitting POTUS. You will have to wait for that.

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Grow some balls. Trump & Russia stole the election right from under your feet. Stand up for yourself.

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Rochard

The Republicans knew Hillary Clinton was going to be the front runner for the Democratic party and went on the war path with investigation after investigation. The Republicans kept attacking her claiming she was criminal. A dozen investigations and tens of thousand of emails published there wasn't a single charge, yet still Republicans will insist she is corrupt when she obviously isn't.

The Republican party is doing the same thing now, going on the war path against the FBI. We don't even know what the investigation is going to uncover yet and the Republican party and the Trump is claiming the FBI is biased. It's absurd - Comey, Mueller, and the top three people at the FBI are Republicans as are all four judges who signed off on the FISA warrants. They are trying to give us the perception that the FBI is biased when there is no indication it is.

At the end of the day the law is the law.

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Acepimp

^^ LoL!!!

Mark, that is wild conspiracy based on NO EVIDENCE. The Democrat media has tricked you. No, I'm not wrong. She LOST because she is the worst, most corrupt politician in history.

Facebook & Twitter testified to Congress: Most of their ads "paid for by Russians" were purchased AFTER the election, were mostly pro-SJW bullshit, and the total ad buy was only $100K. That's nothing. So no, Russia didn't trick 83% of US counties into voting a certain way. That's just dumb

Putin’s Puppets: “The Resistance” Was a Russian Cyber Operation and Unhinged Liberals Bought it Hook, Line and Sinker

You got duped, buddy

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keep deflecting you russian loving snowflake. Robert Mueller is a republican and doing the investigation, which isn't done yet. Keep sucking the Chump cock

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beerptrol

lol, Reality check. He's just another brain washed chumpanzee with alternate facts lol.

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onwebcam

You're saying that Obama didn't spy on the Trump campaign when it is admitted he did..
You're saying Hillary didn't pay for the dossier when in fact she did..
You're saying that the dossier wasn't used to obtain the FISA warrant when in fact it was..
You're saying that all that doesn't add up to the Democrats colluding with elements within the FBI, and others I might add to get Trump....

And you think he's brainwashed and using alternative facts?

It truly is fucking amazing.. Those that study psychology are really learning a lot during these times.. Unfortunately the results will be used by those with ill intentions.. I'm sure even they are afraid of the reality we now face..

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^^ This guy is obsessed with Trump's cock, it's all he talks about

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