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Old 02-03-2018, 07:09 AM   #151
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Old 02-03-2018, 07:36 AM   #152
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Ok, back to the memo.

This guy is a libertarian. He is not democrat. He is not republican. He is not for either side. He's not against either side.

Therefore, his viewpoint on this memo should be the most unbiased, matter-of-fact presentation of the important points of this event. And their implications, if any.

So let's just sit back for a few minutes and see what he has to say. He should give us a fresh outlook on this important situation.



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Libertarian just another word for embarrassed Republican... I've yet to see a libertarian who thought for their self and had any serious views that differs from Republicans..

They all spew the same non sense which is absent from reality . Libertarians are like liberal arts majors... lol

Please show us all the great libertarian govts around the world.. They are a bunch of kooks who read ann rand and believe they are the special snow flake..
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Nunes is Chump's lap dog/ flunky and has no credibility. He didn't see or read shit, instead he had his staff put the report together and i bet with the help of the White House.

Chump didn't sign the sanctions into effect that congress passed

He's a Russian stooge. Chump, republicans, and chump trolls love mother Russia

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Maybe step back for a second clear your mind and see how other countries are reporting this..

Donald Trump is now in open war with those investigating his campaign

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Anyone following the investigation into the Trump campaign's possible collusion with Russia will learn next to nothing from reading the so-called Nunes memo, and yet its release is significant, if only because it demonstrates how far the Republican Party is willing to debase American democracy in support of Donald Trump, and how weaponised conspiracy-mongering has crept from the fringes to the heart of American politics.

The memo is named for Devin Nunes, the Republican chairman of the House Intelligence Committee that is ostensibly conducting its own investigation into the Russia allegations. Nunes is a loyal Trump soldier who made his name during the endless Congressional investigations into the Benghazi scandal that found absolutely no wrongdoing on behalf of Hillary Clinton, but nonetheless served its purpose admirably.

"Everybody thought Hillary Clinton was unbeatable, right? But we put together a Benghazi special committee, a select committee. What are her numbers today? Her numbers are dropping," the congressman Kevin McCarthy told Fox News in a moment of inadvertent candour.
Nunes later served on Trump's transition team and since Trump has been in office Nunes has used his position on the House Committee to hamper and discredit the collusion investigations.


Nunes had the memo drafted by staff relying on information gathered by the committee, some of which was classified. Broadly, the memo alleges that the collusion investigation is a politically motivated witch-hunt against Trump by conspirators in the FBI and Department of Justice, and that the FBI is engaged in a cover-up of its own political motivations.

Specifically it alleges that FBI investigators used the so-called Steele Dossier ? opposition research financed first by Republican and then by Democratic opponents of Trump ? in order to an obtain a warrant to conduct covert surveillance of a Trump campaign aide, Carter Page.This, the memo's Republican champions argue, is proof the investigation is politically tainted.

The problem is that while the investigators might have used the Steele Dossier, it was far from the only evidence they had gathered and used, and given that the rest of the evidence remains classified, it is impossible for the investigators, the FBI and the Justice Department to defend the integrity of their work.


Against the recommendation of these bodies and intelligence services, Trump nevertheless ordered that the memo be declassified and released on Friday.

In a statement the FBI has responded that it has "grave concerns about material omissions of fact that fundamentally impact the memo's accuracy".


Donald Trump and his allies are attacking key American institutions in order to discredit an investigation into foreign interference in a presidential election. They are aligning themselves with Russia in a conflict with the Department of Justice.
As Senator John McCain, one of the last Republican holdouts against Trump, put it in a furious statement: "In 2016, the Russian government engaged in an elaborate plot to interfere in an American election and undermine our democracy.

"The latest attacks against the FBI and Department of Justice serve no American interests ― no party's, no President's, only Putin's.
"The American people deserve to know all the facts surrounding Russia's ongoing efforts to subvert our democracy, which is why Special Counsel Mueller's investigation must proceed unimpeded ? If we continue to undermine our own rule of law, we are doing Putin's job for him."

As a result of the Russia probe Trump has so far sacked an FBI director, James Comey, and forced out a deputy director, Andrew McCabe. A campaign is building among Trump allies to have the Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein sacked. Robert Mueller, the special prosecutor who is leading the Russia investigation, was appointed by Rosenstein and reports to him. Asked whether he had faith in Rosenstein over the weekend, Trump responded; "You figure that one out."

These transparent attempts to end or influence the investigation by Trump have rightly earned him comparisons to the crook Richard Nixon, who ordered the firing of the Watergate special prosecutor, Archibald Cox, prompting the resignations of the attorney-general and deputy attorney-general, an incident that became known as the Saturday Night Massacre.
But there is a key difference between the Watergate and the Russia scandal.

Nixon was investigated not only by an energised news media, and not just by a special prosecutor and the Department of Justice, but eventually by patriotic Republicans in committees in Congress.

It may well be that there was no collusion by Trump's campaign, or that if there was it may be that Trump was unaware of it. But Trump's GOP, blithely elevating its political concerns over its nation's interests, is so far determined that Americans should never find out either way.
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Old 02-03-2018, 09:29 AM   #155
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Chump didn't sign the sanctions into effect that congress passed
what is worse than not signing them is that he made public those Russian oligarchs who would have been the target of sanctions.
Giving them warning and time to move their assets before they become frozen in later acts that still can be completed by the house and senate committees.

Not looking good.
If any direct connection is made by Mueller, this is going to add fuel to fire.
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This thread has degenerated into pointless squabbles. It started out good. But just look what its come to. Shame on all of you!
Pretty much exactly the way the general public received it. The President is saying this proves this is nothing more than a witch hunt, while the rest of the general public is saying the memo doesn't contain anything.
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Nunes is Chump's lap dog/ flunky and has no credibility. He didn't see or read shit, instead he had his staff put the report together and i bet with the help of the White House.

Chump didn't sign the sanctions into effect that congress passed

He's a Russian stooge. Chump, republicans, and chump trolls love mother Russia
He didn't even read the original warrant and doesn't know what's in it. He also couldn't tell us if anyone at the White House helped to draft the memo.

At this point it seems to me - and I am obviously speculating here - it was written directly by the Trump team in their typical grade school language aimed directly at Trump's hardcore base. It makes one or two points which we already knew, and completely ignores 98% of the facts.
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Maybe step back for a second clear your mind and see how other countries are reporting this..

Donald Trump is now in open war with those investigating his campaign

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Anyone following the investigation into the Trump campaign's possible collusion with Russia will learn next to nothing from reading the so-called Nunes memo, and yet its release is significant, if only because it demonstrates how far the Republican Party is willing to debase American democracy in support of Donald Trump, and how weaponised conspiracy-mongering has crept from the fringes to the heart of American politics.

The memo is named for Devin Nunes, the Republican chairman of the House Intelligence Committee that is ostensibly conducting its own investigation into the Russia allegations. Nunes is a loyal Trump soldier who made his name during the endless Congressional investigations into the Benghazi scandal that found absolutely no wrongdoing on behalf of Hillary Clinton, but nonetheless served its purpose admirably.

"Everybody thought Hillary Clinton was unbeatable, right? But we put together a Benghazi special committee, a select committee. What are her numbers today? Her numbers are dropping," the congressman Kevin McCarthy told Fox News in a moment of inadvertent candour.
Nunes later served on Trump's transition team and since Trump has been in office Nunes has used his position on the House Committee to hamper and discredit the collusion investigations.


Nunes had the memo drafted by staff relying on information gathered by the committee, some of which was classified. Broadly, the memo alleges that the collusion investigation is a politically motivated witch-hunt against Trump by conspirators in the FBI and Department of Justice, and that the FBI is engaged in a cover-up of its own political motivations.

Specifically it alleges that FBI investigators used the so-called Steele Dossier ? opposition research financed first by Republican and then by Democratic opponents of Trump ? in order to an obtain a warrant to conduct covert surveillance of a Trump campaign aide, Carter Page.This, the memo's Republican champions argue, is proof the investigation is politically tainted.

The problem is that while the investigators might have used the Steele Dossier, it was far from the only evidence they had gathered and used, and given that the rest of the evidence remains classified, it is impossible for the investigators, the FBI and the Justice Department to defend the integrity of their work.


Against the recommendation of these bodies and intelligence services, Trump nevertheless ordered that the memo be declassified and released on Friday.

In a statement the FBI has responded that it has "grave concerns about material omissions of fact that fundamentally impact the memo's accuracy".


Donald Trump and his allies are attacking key American institutions in order to discredit an investigation into foreign interference in a presidential election. They are aligning themselves with Russia in a conflict with the Department of Justice.
As Senator John McCain, one of the last Republican holdouts against Trump, put it in a furious statement: "In 2016, the Russian government engaged in an elaborate plot to interfere in an American election and undermine our democracy.

"The latest attacks against the FBI and Department of Justice serve no American interests ― no party's, no President's, only Putin's.
"The American people deserve to know all the facts surrounding Russia's ongoing efforts to subvert our democracy, which is why Special Counsel Mueller's investigation must proceed unimpeded ? If we continue to undermine our own rule of law, we are doing Putin's job for him."

As a result of the Russia probe Trump has so far sacked an FBI director, James Comey, and forced out a deputy director, Andrew McCabe. A campaign is building among Trump allies to have the Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein sacked. Robert Mueller, the special prosecutor who is leading the Russia investigation, was appointed by Rosenstein and reports to him. Asked whether he had faith in Rosenstein over the weekend, Trump responded; "You figure that one out."

These transparent attempts to end or influence the investigation by Trump have rightly earned him comparisons to the crook Richard Nixon, who ordered the firing of the Watergate special prosecutor, Archibald Cox, prompting the resignations of the attorney-general and deputy attorney-general, an incident that became known as the Saturday Night Massacre.
But there is a key difference between the Watergate and the Russia scandal.

Nixon was investigated not only by an energised news media, and not just by a special prosecutor and the Department of Justice, but eventually by patriotic Republicans in committees in Congress.

It may well be that there was no collusion by Trump's campaign, or that if there was it may be that Trump was unaware of it. But Trump's GOP, blithely elevating its political concerns over its nation's interests, is so far determined that Americans should never find out either way.
I pretty much gave up argueing, no matter how reasonable your point is, Trump fanatics just scream insults at you

Trump was totally right though, he could shoot somebody in the middle of 5th avenue and get away with it. First thing that would happen among his supporters would be probably going through the victims history and trying to find out if it has immigrant roots and claiming it was totally deserved.
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Maybe step back for a second clear your mind and see how other countries are reporting this..

Donald Trump is now in open war with those investigating his campaign

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Anyone following the investigation into the Trump campaign's possible collusion with Russia will learn next to nothing from reading the so-called Nunes memo, and yet its release is significant, if only because it demonstrates how far the Republican Party is willing to debase American democracy in support of Donald Trump, and how weaponised conspiracy-mongering has crept from the fringes to the heart of American politics.

The memo is named for Devin Nunes, the Republican chairman of the House Intelligence Committee that is ostensibly conducting its own investigation into the Russia allegations. Nunes is a loyal Trump soldier who made his name during the endless Congressional investigations into the Benghazi scandal that found absolutely no wrongdoing on behalf of Hillary Clinton, but nonetheless served its purpose admirably.

"Everybody thought Hillary Clinton was unbeatable, right? But we put together a Benghazi special committee, a select committee. What are her numbers today? Her numbers are dropping," the congressman Kevin McCarthy told Fox News in a moment of inadvertent candour.
Nunes later served on Trump's transition team and since Trump has been in office Nunes has used his position on the House Committee to hamper and discredit the collusion investigations.


Nunes had the memo drafted by staff relying on information gathered by the committee, some of which was classified. Broadly, the memo alleges that the collusion investigation is a politically motivated witch-hunt against Trump by conspirators in the FBI and Department of Justice, and that the FBI is engaged in a cover-up of its own political motivations.

Specifically it alleges that FBI investigators used the so-called Steele Dossier ? opposition research financed first by Republican and then by Democratic opponents of Trump ? in order to an obtain a warrant to conduct covert surveillance of a Trump campaign aide, Carter Page.This, the memo's Republican champions argue, is proof the investigation is politically tainted.

The problem is that while the investigators might have used the Steele Dossier, it was far from the only evidence they had gathered and used, and given that the rest of the evidence remains classified, it is impossible for the investigators, the FBI and the Justice Department to defend the integrity of their work.


Against the recommendation of these bodies and intelligence services, Trump nevertheless ordered that the memo be declassified and released on Friday.

In a statement the FBI has responded that it has "grave concerns about material omissions of fact that fundamentally impact the memo's accuracy".


Donald Trump and his allies are attacking key American institutions in order to discredit an investigation into foreign interference in a presidential election. They are aligning themselves with Russia in a conflict with the Department of Justice.
As Senator John McCain, one of the last Republican holdouts against Trump, put it in a furious statement: "In 2016, the Russian government engaged in an elaborate plot to interfere in an American election and undermine our democracy.

"The latest attacks against the FBI and Department of Justice serve no American interests ― no party's, no President's, only Putin's.
"The American people deserve to know all the facts surrounding Russia's ongoing efforts to subvert our democracy, which is why Special Counsel Mueller's investigation must proceed unimpeded ? If we continue to undermine our own rule of law, we are doing Putin's job for him."

As a result of the Russia probe Trump has so far sacked an FBI director, James Comey, and forced out a deputy director, Andrew McCabe. A campaign is building among Trump allies to have the Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein sacked. Robert Mueller, the special prosecutor who is leading the Russia investigation, was appointed by Rosenstein and reports to him. Asked whether he had faith in Rosenstein over the weekend, Trump responded; "You figure that one out."

These transparent attempts to end or influence the investigation by Trump have rightly earned him comparisons to the crook Richard Nixon, who ordered the firing of the Watergate special prosecutor, Archibald Cox, prompting the resignations of the attorney-general and deputy attorney-general, an incident that became known as the Saturday Night Massacre.
But there is a key difference between the Watergate and the Russia scandal.

Nixon was investigated not only by an energised news media, and not just by a special prosecutor and the Department of Justice, but eventually by patriotic Republicans in committees in Congress.

It may well be that there was no collusion by Trump's campaign, or that if there was it may be that Trump was unaware of it. But Trump's GOP, blithely elevating its political concerns over its nation's interests, is so far determined that Americans should never find out either way.
This is what everyone seems to think. The Steele dossier (which shouldn't be called the Steele Dossier at all being as he didn't write all of it) was one piece of evidence used to get warrants. They went to a judge and said "We have this dossier and we have verified 75% of it as true, and believe this is plenty to get a FISA warrant" PLUS they backed it up with other evidence such as Carter Page being investigated as a spy years before Trump decided to run for election.

On top of that, they went back multiple times to extend the warrant - which means every time they had to show proof the warrant was returning valuable information about crimes being committed.

A FISA warrant is a foreign intelligence warrant - they only use this when they believe an American is working for a foreign government. When they went back multiple times and had to verify the warrant was getting information about criminal activity - meaning an American working for the Russians - well, that pretty much says it all.

You have Carter Page who was under investigation for spying with the Russians before Trump decided to run. During the campaign he kept going to Russia. Then you have George Papadopoulos who was also working with the Russians.

This is the very start of the problem. Then we have other high level meetings with all three Trump kids (including Jared trying to set up "secret back door communications with the Russians).

We have secret meetings and direct collusion every time we turn around.

That doesn't even begin to explore the obstruction of justice charges.

It's stunning that anyone still supports Trump at this point.
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After more than a year, what solid evidence have they found? There is none or the FBI are shit.

Did Hillary have emails on a private server? YES

Did Hillary permanently delete some? YES

Is that legal? NO

But while the Democrats and Republicans squabble like children America goes further down the drain.

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"It's an attack on the FBI! It only serves Putin!"

^^ Well, it's clear that some of you are completely retarded, and easily duped.

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I pretty much gave up argueing, no matter how reasonable your point is, Trump fanatics just scream insults at you

Trump was totally right though, he could shoot somebody in the middle of 5th avenue and get away with it. First thing that would happen among his supporters would be probably going through the victims history and trying to find out if it has immigrant roots and claiming it was totally deserved.
Hey clueless foreigner- the article says at the bottom that there's probably no trump-russia collusion. It already came out in congressional testimony that no foreign country influenced the outcome of the election.

It wasn't the Russians, it was Americans who voted against crooked Hillary because she is just awful. End of story.

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Hey clueless foreigner- the article says at the bottom that there's probably no trump-russia collusion.

May well be does not mean probably.

You sure do like to lie, either that or English is not your native language and you simply don't understand it all that well. Which is it?


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I have Foxtel here in Australia its Rupert Murdoch's very own pay TV system

Fox News is.. Channel.. 604, and its listed in the entertainment section.

Think about that Americans..
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After more than a year, what solid evidence have they found? There is none or the FBI are shit.
We aren't sure of what the FBI has. There is an ongoing investigation. Once the investigation is complete we will know a lot more. However, with that said, so four people have had charges filed against them.

From what little we know there is clear evidence of collusion with the Russian government. Carter Page was under investigation of being a spy for Russia before Trump decided to run for office, and before he was part of the Trump campaign. George Papadopoulos was meeting with Russian agents in London, and bragging about the Russians giving them inside information against Hillary Clinton. This doesn't come from the FBI or even the Steele dossier; This comes from a foreign government.

So they have a lot of evidence. And they have a lot more evidence than what they can tell us.

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Did Hillary have emails on a private server? YES
It's not illegal for a top ranking government official to have emails on a private server. In fact, it is not illegal for a top ranking government official to have classified emails on a private server. At the time it was common - Prior Secretaries of State did this, as well as members of Congress.

Oddly enough none of them have been investigated.

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Did Hillary permanently delete some? YES

Is that legal? NO
And?

Some emails were lost. This is more of a technical issue than anything else. If Hillary Clinton ordered the emails destroyed to hide something, that is a serious crime. Otherwise it's more of a disappointment. The Bush administration lost millions of emails, but oddly enough no one seemed to care.
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May well be does not mean probably.

You sure do like to lie, either that or English is not your native language and you simply don't understand it all that well. Which is it?


Hey Fred: Did you miss the congressional testimony where top DEMOCRAT officials said Russia didn't do anything that affected the outcome?

Seriously, you Russia conspiracy nuts got duped, but now you're in too deep to realize it and admit it. Sad you let the fake media trick you like this

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Hey Fred: Did you miss the congressional testimony where top DEMOCRAT officials said Russia didn't do anything that affected the outcome?


Trump taught you that being a liar is the way to get through life. Sad.
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HUH? I'm not LYING, you are simply CLUELESS




Hey Fred- Will you EVER get some fucking FACTS??

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HUH? I'm not LYING, you are simply CLUELESS




Hey Fred- Will you EVER get some fucking FACTS??

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Your videos are almost a year old, more lying. SAD
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Your videos are almost a year old, more lying. SAD
FRED- What part of "No evidence of collusion" do you not understand? Are you so desperate to shill for Hillary that you refuse to accept basic facts? SAD

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FRED is like Chuck Todd- a lying crybaby bitch

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FRED- What part of "No evidence of collusion" do you not understand? Are you so desperate to shill for Hillary that you refuse to accept basic facts? SAD

Why do you post videos a year old? I know you see Trump lying constantly, but it's no way to go through life.

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Why do you post videos a year old? I know you see Trump lying constantly, but it's no way to go through life.
??? That video is from YESTERDAY, Fred, which means YOU ARE THE LIAR

You guys are so desperate to believe some Russia hoax that was made up by the sore losers. The fact that fake news successfully dupes a third of the people is... stunning

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??? That video is from YESTERDAY, Fred, which means YOU ARE THE LIAR

You guys are so desperate to believe some Russia hoax that was made up by the sore losers. The fact that fake news successfully dupes a third of the people is... stunning

Published on May 22, 2017

So not only a liar, a pathological liar. I'm learning everything you say is a lie. Not good man.


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Hey clueless foreigner- the article says at the bottom that there's probably no trump-russia collusion. It already came out in congressional testimony that no foreign country influenced the outcome of the election.


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So not only a liar, a pathological liar. I'm learning everything you say is a lie. Not good man.
Except that last video is from yesterday, and there's no evidence of wrongdoing.

Source: Strzok Hadn?t Seen Evidence Of Collusion After 10 Months On Russia Probe

?COLLUSION IS DEAD?: Trump Celebrates Release Of FISA Memo

Turn off the fakestream media, then get some facts

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Except that last video is from yesterday, and there's no evidence of wrongdoing.

Source: Strzok Hadn’t Seen Evidence Of Collusion After 10 Months On Russia Probe

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Strzok Hadn't Seen Collusion Evidence Be | The Daily Caller

Interesting article.. so your saying the Russians did hack the and release the DNC emails and the meeting at Trump tower was nothing to do with adoption sanctions but to do with Russia offering dirt on Hillary. And as of As of May 2017, like before anyone was aware of that meeting.. no collusion was found, yet what's been discovered since July 27 he wouldn't have a clue about because he was removed from the investigation. And quote "he was not a hyper-partisan opponent of Trump or in the tank for Clinton."

Like its all in the article you linked.. read it.
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Interesting article.. so your saying the Russians did hack the and release the DNC emails and the meeting at Trump tower was nothing to do with adoption sanctions but to do with Russia offering dirt on Hillary. And as of As of May 2017, like before anyone was aware of that meeting.. no collusion was found, yet what's been discovered since July 27 he wouldn't have a clue about because he was removed from the investigation. And quote "he was not a hyper-partisan opponent of Trump or in the tank for Clinton."

Like its all in the article you linked.. read it.
The only evidence of Russia hacking tthe DNC was via a company paid by the DNC much like the company paid by the DNC for the dossier.. Get with the program. It's been a con job / coverup all along by the DNC which was being bankrolled by Hillary... The FBI nor anyone else was allowed to look at the server to verify whether it was or wasn't... And the founder of crowdstrike is...... drumroll please.... Russian...
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Yeah, because "Russia" and Putin are so concerned about what a bunch of mostly losers who aren't even technically in the porn industry anymore think about the fact that the FBI was spying on Trump.

It's of critical concern to "Mother Russia".
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The only evidence of Russia hacking tthe DNC was via a company paid by the DNC much like the company paid by the DNC for the dossier.. Get with the program. It's been a con job / coverup all along by the DNC which was being bankrolled by Hillary... The FBI nor anyone else was allowed to look at the server to verify whether it was or wasn't...
So your saying the DailyCaller is not a legit news source?
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so your saying the Russians did hack the and release the DNC emails and the meeting at Trump tower was nothing to do with adoption sanctions but to do with Russia offering dirt on Hillary.
??? I said NONE OF THAT.

Dude, forget about Russians. The DNC leak was a LEAK from within the DNC server room, not a HACK. The DNC refused to let FBI examine their server- they provided NO EVIDENCE of any hacking.

The Russian lawyer was an agent for the DNC- she was BAIT who had nothing useful. And if she did have dirt on Hillary? So what- it's just opposition research.. but she didn't so...

No evidence of "the Russians" you keep going on about.. like an insane person

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So your saying the DailyCaller is not a legit news source?
It says he "believed Russian's hacked the server" that's it. He believed they did because the DNC told them that's who did it via the Russian owned company. They are just quoting "what he claims he believed" so why does that make them unreliable?
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Yeah, because "Russia" and Putin are so concerned about what a bunch of mostly losers who aren't even technically in the porn industry anymore think about the fact that the FBI was spying on Trump.
It's of critical concern to "Mother Russia".
But its just not this board, it seems to be any board where there's members responsible for publishing web content directed at American users.
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It says he "believed Russian's hacked the server" that's it. He believed they did because the DNC told them that's who did it via the Russian owned company. They are just quoting "what he claims he believed" so why does that make them unreliable?
But when they say.. "message suggested that" Its fact? One spin after another isn't?
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But its just not this board, it seems to be any board where there's members responsible for publishing web content directed at American users.
Then we should censor anyone not from America! Americans can NOT be allowed to hear any unapproved viewpoints.
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But when they say.. "message suggested that" Its fact? One spin after another isn't?
If you are referring to Strzok's messages reflected his belief was that Russia hacked the servers. It really doesn't matter what he believed. The fact is EVERYONE's belief is based on a tainted unreliable source. That source is the DNC via crowdstrike.. It's what is referred to as "fruit of the poisonous tree" The underlying evidence that Russia hacked the server is tainted and uncorroborated and ANY judge would toss it out of the courtroom as such.

Since your tainted evidence has now been tossed out of court, what else ya got? Maybe you can send in some
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Then we should censor anyone not from America! Americans can NOT be allowed to hear any unapproved viewpoints.
Censoring isn't needed, but at least a bit more verification could be added.

Anyways reports coming out now that the "Omitted" part of the released memo detailed how the "FISA court was aware of political motivations behind the dossier"

Which would lead me to think the whole thing is just released to discredit the FBI and intelligence service. Sounding a lot like treason isn't?
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I find it unbelievable that all these ignoramuses post on GFY stating that there is no collusion no obstruction ?

How the fuck do you know, do you have a hotline to Muller's desk, are you a member of his inner circle?

Let this sink in Muller hasn't finished his investigation and it could be another year before he does.

He will not be leaking or posting his results on GFY that's for sure. You are just mimicking Chump who over and over keeps saying there was no collusion, no obstruction, believing if he says it enough it will miraculously become true, sad cunt.
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I find it unbelievable that all these ignoramuses post on GFY stating that there is no collusion no obstruction ?

How the fuck do you know, do you have a hotline to Muller's desk, are you a member of his inner circle?

Let this sink in Muller hasn't finished his investigation and it could be another year before he does.

He will not be leaking or posting his results on GFY that's for sure. You are just mimicking Chump who over and over keeps saying there was no collusion, no obstruction, believing if he says it enough it will miraculously become true, sad cunt.
You're right. I guess we will have to just watch CNN for the Mueller leaks.
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Here is the part to remember.
The Obama administration spied on, & targeted for investigation, the Trump team without any real evidence to do so.
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Here is the part to remember.
The Obama administration spied on, & targeted for investigation, the Trump team without any real evidence to do so.
When you say "no real evidence" you mean how they targeted Carter Page three years ago because they thought he was a spy working for the Russians? And when I say "three years ago" I mean "before Trump officially ran for office".
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Hmm, the plot thickens...

< 50%

"WASHINGTON (AP) ? In a story Feb. 2 about a Republican memo on the Russia investigation, The Associated Press erroneously reported that a former British spy's work on an opposition research project was initially funded by the conservative Washington Free Beacon. Though the former spy, Christopher Steele, was hired by a firm that was initially funded by the Washington Free Beacon, he did not begin work on the project until after Democratic groups had begun funding it."

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Hmm, the plot thickens...

< 50%

"WASHINGTON (AP) — In a story Feb. 2 about a Republican memo on the Russia investigation, The Associated Press erroneously reported that a former British spy's work on an opposition research project was initially funded by the conservative Washington Free Beacon. Though the former spy, Christopher Steele, was hired by a firm that was initially funded by the Washington Free Beacon, he did not begin work on the project until after Democratic groups had begun funding it."

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One more idiot excuse down the drain... The excuses are just about eliminated.
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When you say "no real evidence" you mean how they targeted Carter Page three years ago because they thought he was a spy working for the Russians? And when I say "three years ago" I mean "before Trump officially ran for office".
^^ Making excuses for massive crimes and abuse of power. Spying on a citizen and political opponent after buying a fake dossier full of lies- that's illegal Rochard. Does any of this compute? Or are you that big of an Obama fan boy that you think these crimes are ok?

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^^ Making excuses for massive crimes and abuse of power. Spying on a citizen and political opponent after buying a fake dossier full of lies- that's illegal Rochard. Does any of this compute? Or are you that big of an Obama fan boy that you think these crimes are ok?

Blind to the crimes of Chump, yet accuses everyone else of being blind. Good Russian troll
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Yeah, because "Russia" and Putin are so concerned about what a bunch of mostly losers who aren't even technically in the porn industry anymore think about the fact that the FBI was spying on Trump.

It's of critical concern to "Mother Russia".
It's a coordinated campaign of misinformation and endless arguing. It's meant to keep reasonable people unreasonably yelling at each other. You are WAY too smart a cookie not to realize the Russians are masters at this kind of nonsense.

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Then we should censor anyone not from America! Americans can NOT be allowed to hear any unapproved viewpoints.
I never said censor Russians. It's much more effective (and fun) to just laugh at their circular logic. I'm just saying let's know WHERE some of these trolls are posting from, that's all. Shine a light on these cockroaches and make your own conclusions. Nothing wrong with that, is there?
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