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Old 02-02-2018, 01:15 PM   #51
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FIDDY MEMOS RELEASED!

The reason Hillary is brought up so much by Republicans is because they know many Americans, including many Democrats, hate and do not trust her.

Same way the Democrats used to bring up Bush Jr., or Reagan, or Fox News. They were easy targets and piling on helps their side.

ALL of this shit reminds me of high school to be honest.
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So let me get this straight you stand by this part of your post? "The Republicans originally hired Steele and GPS Fusion"

Yes Republicans hired GPS but if you read what i posted i said GPS was hired by Republicans and if you read the link again it also says Steel was hired AFTER Clinton?s campaign hired GPS.
Oct 15 to May 16th is how long Republicanswere funding it.. 6 months before the election is when they stopped..

DNC/Hillary hired the same firm in May of 2016....

Yet you guys try to claim it was all Hillary to fit your narrative.
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Oct 15 to May 16th is how long Republicanswere funding it.. 6 months before the election is when they stopped..

DNC/Hillary hired the same firm in May of 2016....

Yet you guys try to claim it was all Hillary to fit your narrative.
WRONG! I didn't claim that, I said The Repubs were involved before the primary. They lost to Trump, then passed the dossier on to the Dems. So YES Crockette, it was the DEMS who added more fake info and spend 12 million dollars, then fraudulently obtained a warrant. That's a crime, what aren't you understanding?


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It's dangerous to be transparent? You side with Adam Schiff who was desperate to hide it from us?? Wow Mark, you've gone off the deep end. This isn't about teams, it's about the truth of illegal spying and weaponizing the DoJ to rig the election for Hillary. THAT'S A CRIME

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Nunes and Trump are playing a very dangerous game. Acepimp if you love the US so much, maybe you should stop being so lazy and defaulting to your very discredited beliefs and sources.
Stock market plunging past 600 points in the news. Bug business doesn't like Trump breaking the rule causes instability in the markets.
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Oct 15 to May 16th is how long Republicanswere funding it.. 6 months before the election is when they stopped..

DNC/Hillary hired the same firm in May of 2016....

Yet you guys try to claim it was all Hillary to fit your narrative.
wtf another idiot that cant read.. I AGREED WITH ROCKHARD THAT THE REPUBLICANS ORIGINALLY HIRED GPS. I WAS POINTING OUT THE FACT ROCKHARD SAID "THE REPUBLICANS ORIGINALLY HIRED STEEL AND GPS FUSION" Steel was brought on by gps AFTER Hillarys campaign hired them jesus christ!
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Well if you gonna post shit make sure its accurate then. What you posted was half true and half wrong.All you had to say was yea you were right what i posted was partial wrong. Would of that been that hard? Funny part was i actually agreed with you that the Republicans originally hired GPS
The entire "memo" is half right. They are making it sound like they used this dossier to get a warrant. Anyone with any degree of intelligence knows this is not how it works. The FBI doesn't say "Hey, we got this dossier here and we want a warrant". Instead, the FBI gets the dossier, investigates EVERY part of it, and then goes to a judge and says "We have this document and we've investigated it, found out that most of it is true, and along with other evidence such as Page being under investigation for being a spy for Russia before he was working with Trump as well as Manafort, we believe we have a valid reason to get a FISA warrant".

And they did that three times.

If I understand correctly, each time they had a different judge too.

This is nothing more an attempt to obstruct justice.
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The reason Hillary is brought up so much by Republicans.............
Benghazi.

We should have an investigation.
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Benghazi.

We should have an investigation.
Hey Rochard:

Benghazi Probe Finds Marines' Response Was Slowed by Uniform Changes

Intentionally delaying the rescue team, resulting in the death of Americans, is sickening and outrageous. I thought you cared about the military. My mistake, you prefer that crroked Hillary cover up her crimes. Not happening bud

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All this memo does is draw attention to the fact that the Trump campaign's foreign policy advisor was on the FBI's radar as an agent of Russia since 2013. Great strategy for you to say "how dare you surveil our campaign worker who is also an agent of the Russian government". Fucking idiots.

It's like a murderer asking to have the cops arrested for catching him in the act of murdering someone.
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All this memo does is draw attention to the fact that the Trump campaign's foreign policy advisor was on the FBI's radar as an agent of Russia since 2013. Great strategy for you to say "how dare you surveil our campaign worker who is also an agent of the Russian government". Fucking idiots.

It's like a murderer asking to have the cops arrested for catching him in the act of murdering someone.
WRONG! Without the fake dossier, there would've been no FISA warrant. This was admitted under oath by McCabe. DOJ/FBI already knew dossier's source was unreliable & shouldn't be used, but filed application with it anyways.

Warrants were fraudulently obtained. DoJ was weaponized in an election campaign. CRIME.

Facts are facts, and those are crimes

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Benghazi.

We should have an investigation.
No, this is bigger than any one Hillary-related issue.

They have hated Hillary and hubby Bill since they "stole" George Bush Sr.'s God-given Right to be re-elected in 1992. The political witch hunts started and Hillary's response to that whole bullshit scandal were the seeds of why many people despise her.

Add that she appears to be a smarmy nerd bitch and she's an easy target.
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So the DNC paid to have the dossier about Trump-Russia collusion manufactured, so they could use FISA surveillance (normally reserved only for known terrorists for sake of national security) to spy on the Trump campaign, in hopes of finding some kind of REAL dirt on Trump, in order for it to be leaked to the media and destroy his campaign?

Yeah, so what? Big deal. Now if they'd put as much effort into impeaching Trump for colluding with Russia to steal the election from Hillary, then Hillary would be sitting in the White House right now. When is THAT going to happen?

Vote Hillary 2020, 4 more years!!
No.

The REPUBLICANS paid for the dossier.
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The REPUBLICANS paid for the dossier.
WRONG AGAIN YOU LYING CLOWN!

DC Press Corps KNEW For a FULL YEAR Hillary Clinton Was Behind Russia Dossier ? HID IT FROM PUBLIC

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Julian Assange Moves in With Kill Shot After Comey Mocks FISA Memo

"James Comey, master of logic: FISA memo is nothing -- and also the destroyer of worlds."

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No, this is bigger than any one Hillary-related issue.

They have hated Hillary and hubby Bill since they "stole" George Bush Sr.'s God-given Right to be re-elected in 1992. The political witch hunts started and Hillary's response to that whole bullshit scandal were the seeds of why many people despise her.

Add that she appears to be a smarmy nerd bitch and she's an easy target.
I've never liked Hillary Clinton. Don't get me wrong, she's perfectly qualified, but I just didn't like her. In the last election it was really "anyone other than Trump".

Hillary Clinton never did anything wrong. It is just nothing illegal about a high ranking government official sending email over a private server (although obviously there should be), and nothing at all was illegal about Benghazi.

These were nothing more than political attacks designed to destroy Hillary's credibility because everyone knew she would run for election. Every time an investigation failed to turn up any evidence of any hint of a crime they just turned around and started a new investigation.

Now we are faced with a very serious investigation - accusations that a sitting US President colluded with a foreign power to win an election - and a handful of Republicans are moving heaven and earth to obstruct justice.
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All this memo does is draw attention to the fact that the Trump campaign's foreign policy advisor was on the FBI's radar as an agent of Russia since 2013. Great strategy for you to say "how dare you surveil our campaign worker who is also an agent of the Russian government". Fucking idiots.

It's like a murderer asking to have the cops arrested for catching him in the act of murdering someone.
It's batshit crazy. Sort of like this:



Every time we are turning around we are finding more crimes. We already know for a fact the Trump campaign was working directly with the Russian government to some degree; We have foreign governments telling us Trump campaign members were bragging about how they had DNC emails before anyone in the US knew the DNC was hacked. We know they were directly talking to the Russians - one of them was flying to London to meet with Russian agents. Jared was trying to set up "secret back door communications". There was meetings with "attorneys" who are clearly working for the Russian government in Trump Tower.

We have multiple charged with money laundering, most likely involving banks used by Russians to launder money.

Now we have obstruction of justice - Hope Hicks said on a phone call "Those emails will NEVER get out".

People are flipping and rolling over, and testifying against every one else and causing them to flip. We know a handful of people have flipped - Imagine how many more there are that we don't know about. Some of them were talking directly to Russian agents, working against the US Government - best case scenario for them is going to prison for the rest of their lives and never ever seeing the light of day again.
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Hillary Clinton never did anything wrong. It is just nothing illegal about a high ranking government official sending email over a private server (although obviously there should be), and nothing at all was illegal about Benghazi.

Now we are faced with a very serious investigation - accusations that a sitting US President colluded with a foreign power to win an election - and a handful of Republicans are moving heaven and earth to obstruct justice.
WRONG! Mishandling classified intel is a crime! Espionage charge is appropriate.

There was no collusion between Trump and Russia you dope- the memo proves that the Steele dossier was unreliable and SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN USED to obtain a surveillance warrant. There's no obstruction, you are just repeating talking points from desperate democrats!
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I've never liked Hillary Clinton. Don't get me wrong, she's perfectly qualified, but I just didn't like her. In the last election it was really "anyone other than Trump".

Hillary Clinton never did anything wrong. It is just nothing illegal about a high ranking government official sending email over a private server (although obviously there should be), and nothing at all was illegal about Benghazi.

These were nothing more than political attacks designed to destroy Hillary's credibility because everyone knew she would run for election. Every time an investigation failed to turn up any evidence of any hint of a crime they just turned around and started a new investigation.

Now we are faced with a very serious investigation - accusations that a sitting US President colluded with a foreign power to win an election - and a handful of Republicans are moving heaven and earth to obstruct justice.
Oh I agree. Attacks against Hillary (and Bill) are coordinated, well thought-out plans of attack, not only against her credibility but also to undercut ANY investigation against ANYONE in the future.

The more pointless smoke screen investigations that waste the public's time and taxpayer's money the better. This way when a REAL crime occurs that investigation will not be taken seriously by the Electorate.

I am a chess player and I ONLY look at strategy. The particulars are just for fools to get caught up in. (Not saying you are a fool Rochard. LOL)
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Ask yourself, what would have happened if Trump had Bannon shop a story to Brietbart about the collusion of Obama & Hezbollah and the DOJ/FBI went to the FISA court and used that Breitbart story as the basis for a warrant to spy on Obama?
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Oh I agree. Attacks against Hillary (and Bill) are coordinated, well thought-out plans of attack, not only against her credibility but also to undercut ANY investigation against ANYONE in the future.

The more pointless smoke screen investigations that waste the public's time and taxpayer's money the better. This way when a REAL crime occurs that investigation will not be taken seriously by the Electorate.

I am a chess player and I ONLY look at strategy. The particulars are just for fools to get caught up in. (Not saying you are a fool Rochard. LOL)
I was a hardcore Republican when Watergate happened. I was furious. This was nothing more than an attempt to make a sitting president look bad only because they wanted to embarrass him. This is not how I expected my government to act - then or now.

What's happening now is even worse. The Republican party is scrambling to obstruct justice at every turn.
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Ask yourself, what would have happened if Trump had Bannon shop a story to Brietbart about the collusion of Obama & Hezbollah and the DOJ/FBI went to the FISA court and used that Breitbart story as the basis for a warrant to spy on Obama?
I would be fine with it. Because when the FBI went to get a warrant on some bullshit it would have been shot down.

The FBI didn't say "here is a dossier so we want to get a warrant". The FBI said "We have this dossier, we've verified 75% of it, and combined with Carter Page being under investigation and other items, we have opened an investigation and would like to have a FISA warrant.

It's like Hillary and the uranium bullshit. They couldn't even get the FBI launch an investigation.
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Hang on its been said this memo omits many facts, whose to say that those retracted facts are not what "Else" was used to get the warrants of which we know there are dozens of things that could of been used. Trump is desperate to get rid of Rod Rosenstein, and sorry but to an outsider Trumps shot himself in the foot with this.

Meanwhile sanctions on Russia still not imposed and Russian political interference on webmaster / media content producer boards is still rampant. They were working places like this for a long time...
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As expected, the memo proves sweet fuck-all
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That's because Obama, Clintons, DNC, Soros, etc., completely politicized and bought every department of the US government including the intelligence agencies and justice department. They are no longer impartial. I believe that is what is at the heart of this matter.
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I know you can't see it but you are as out of touch with reality as those other lnatics Bladewire, crockett and RedFred.

No one says you have to like Trump but don't become completely delusional like those clowns.
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Face it - your boy scammed you and everyone else. He won't last the rest of the year. Sucks to be you!
No clue what you're referring to, but I'll post the facts 1 more time:

House Intel memo key point: The FBI's Andrew McCabe confirmed to the committee that no FISA warrant would have been sought from the FISA Court without the bogus Steele dossier information. --> Without the fake dossier, there would've been no FISA warrant. This was admitted under oath by McCabe. DOJ/FBI already knew dossier's source was unreliable & shouldn't be used, but filed application with it anyways. Waited until after to fire Steele. Then applied for extensions on warrant anyway.

^^ Nope, that's a crime, weaponizing the FBI because they wanted Hillary to win (so their crimes get covered up) is illegal. Not sure what the misunderstanding is.

Of course this will lead to the firing of McCabe (no pension), Rosenstein, and Mueller, since the Russia hoax is a fraud by sore losers abusing their power. They should get prison.

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That's because Obama, Clintons, DNC, Soros, etc., completely politicized and bought every department of the US government including the intelligence agencies and justice department. They are no longer impartial. I believe that is what is at the heart of this matter.
Keep trying.

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Hang on its been said this memo omits many facts, whose to say that those retracted facts are not what "Else" was used to get the warrants of which we know there are dozens of things that could of been used. Trump is desperate to get rid of Rod Rosenstein, and sorry but to an outsider Trumps shot himself in the foot with this.

Meanwhile sanctions on Russia still not imposed and Russian political interference on webmaster / media content producer boards is still rampant. They were working places like this for a long time...
Again, the FBI didn't walk in and say "We have this dossier" and that was it. They walked in and said "We have this dossier, most of it is true, and we have a three year investigation into Carter Page and...." god only knows what else.

In order to get a warrant, they had to have had an investigation. They had to collaborate what was in the dossier AND back it up with other outside sources.
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Let's take a look at the actual unbiased facts:

Nellie Ohr Research Was Provided To FBI For FISA Application Source Material?

Not suspicious at all! Gimme a break. It's over, they're done

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Benghazi.

We should have an investigation.
Speaking of Benghazi , did you know that Nunes didn't even look at the FISA warrant? They decided that Trey Gowdy should look at the FISA warrant with 2 investigators and take notes. So the Nunes memmo is based on his interpretation if notes Trey Gowdy took after looking at the FISA warrant.

Trey Gowdy ran the faiked scam Benghazi investigation.

And after this latest scam by Trey Gowdy, he has announced that he's retiring from congress now!

On page 2 of the memo is a disclaimer by the house council states: "To be clear, memorandum reflects the judgement of its Congressional authors.

So the White House counsel was very clear that the whole memo is an opinion piece!
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Weird how the FBI and the Democrat House members were screaming that IF this memo was released it was going to destroy our national intelligence agencys because of all the things it would reveal.

Turns out it did NONE of that. They just didn't want to have the American people know the corrupt shit they did against Trump.

Nobody is talking about that today. CNN keeps reporting how the FBI "begged" Trump not to release it. Why?
Because they claimed it would endanger our national security.

LOL! Fucking trying to hide their shit from the American people.
Guess what...the FBI has ALWAYS pulled shady shit. Just ask the leaders of the Civil Rights Movement what the FBI did to them in the 1960's.

And this time they got busted. It's plain and simple. Just watch. There's even MORE stuff coming. That's what the memo says at the end. This is just part one.

And everyone that is against the memo coming out should be ashamed of themselves.

Shine the light of day on this and let's all see what happened. And then? Heads need to roll. And heads are going to roll.

Just saw reporting that there is now serious talk on Capital Hill about a SECOND special counsel who will be investigating the FBI and the first special counsel.
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It's batshit crazy. Sort of like this:



Every time we are turning around we are finding more crimes. We already know for a fact the Trump campaign was working directly with the Russian government to some degree; We have foreign governments telling us Trump campaign members were bragging about how they had DNC emails before anyone in the US knew the DNC was hacked. We know they were directly talking to the Russians - one of them was flying to London to meet with Russian agents. Jared was trying to set up "secret back door communications". There was meetings with "attorneys" who are clearly working for the Russian government in Trump Tower.

We have multiple charged with money laundering, most likely involving banks used by Russians to launder money.

Now we have obstruction of justice - Hope Hicks said on a phone call "Those emails will NEVER get out".

People are flipping and rolling over, and testifying against every one else and causing them to flip. We know a handful of people have flipped - Imagine how many more there are that we don't know about. Some of them were talking directly to Russian agents, working against the US Government - best case scenario for them is going to prison for the rest of their lives and never ever seeing the light of day again.
It's almost like we're living in a another dimension watching all of this shit take place. This is going to be the biggest thing ever when the shit hits the fan fully and I'll have my popcorn ready.
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If the FBI has something to hide, why are they saying that the omission of details is what really hurts them? If I was guilty of something I wouldn't be begging for all of the details to be relased.

Omitting certain parts of this whole business is to the benefit of the scammers trying to spin a fake narrative. Having all of the details blows their story out of the water. But as long as FOX viewers interpret this as a win for Donald Trump it doesn't matter.
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Speaking of Benghazi , did you know that Nunes didn't even look at the FISA warrant? They decided that Trey Gowdy should look at the FISA warrant with 2 investigators and take notes. So the Nunes memmo is based on his interpretation if notes Trey Gowdy took after looking at the FISA warrant.

Trey Gowdy ran the faiked scam Benghazi investigation.

And after this latest scam by Trey Gowdy, he has announced that he's retiring from congress now!

On page 2 of the memo is a disclaimer by the house council states: "To be clear, memorandum reflects the judgement of its Congressional authors.

So the White House counsel was very clear that the whole memo is an opinion piece!
I just read that. That's fine. They don't need to read the FISA warrant. Facts aren't important.
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Weird how the FBI and the Democrat House members were screaming that IF this memo was released it was going to destroy our national intelligence agencys because of all the things it would reveal.

Turns out it did NONE of that. They just didn't want to have the American people know the corrupt shit they did against Trump.

Nobody is talking about that today. CNN keeps reporting how the FBI "begged" Trump not to release it. Why?
Because they claimed it would endanger our national security.

LOL! Fucking trying to hide their shit from the American people.
Guess what...the FBI has ALWAYS pulled shady shit. Just ask the leaders of the Civil Rights Movement what the FBI did to them in the 1960's.

And this time they got busted. It's plain and simple. Just watch. There's even MORE stuff coming. That's what the memo says at the end. This is just part one.

And everyone that is against the memo coming out should be ashamed of themselves.

Shine the light of day on this and let's all see what happened. And then? Heads need to roll. And heads are going to roll.

Just saw reporting that there is now serious talk on Capital Hill about a SECOND special counsel who will be investigating the FBI and the first special counsel.
I was just thinking about you. I noticed you haven't been on GFY recently.

In fact, we discussed this earlier in this very thread. I did find that a little bit odd.
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If the FBI has something to hide, why are they saying that the omission of details is what really hurts them? If I was guilty of something I wouldn't be begging for all of the details to be relased.

Omitting certain parts of this whole business is to the benefit of the scammers trying to spin a fake narrative. Having all of the details blows their story out of the water. But as long as FOX viewers interpret this as a win for Donald Trump it doesn't matter.
They can't release all of the details - they are in the middle of an investigation.
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Democrats will say it isnt real

Republicans will feign outrage

99% of Americans dont even know what FISA is and even if they do they are too ignorant to understand it...sad....
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They can't release all of the details - they are in the middle of an investigation.
And which investigation is that? The one led by Mueller is called the investigation into "Russian Interference in the 2016 United States elections and Related Matters".

I don't see anything there about Trump. We now have evidence of the Democrats within the government abusing their power and buying fake intel from Russians in order to influence the election. Looks pretty bad for the Dems!

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Let's not forget that Trump said the word "American" 80 times during his State of the Union speech. I'd like to thank the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) for pointing this out this fact. As we all know, the word "American" is a racist and xenophobic term. If anyone knows anything about racist and xenophobic words, would would certainly be the American Civil Liberties Union.

Plus, did you notice that Trump needs BOTH hands to drink from a bottle of water? That's racist. You know why? Because behind closed doors, perhaps its his slaves who typically feed him water. Therefore, over time, perhaps he's forgotten how to use a water bottle.

Let's all re-elect Hillary in 2020. FOUR MORE YEARS!!!
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Facts aren't important.
Funny you say that because you say:

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And yet it isn't fact. It's a strongly held belief of yours that you want to be fact.

So what is important - real facts or made up facts?

This memo business must be causing you a considerable amount of cognitive dissonance. So you double down on your made up "facts" and continue to muddy the waters. All because you hate Trump.

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