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Old 01-21-2018, 04:27 PM   #1
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China publicly mocks America & government shutdown


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""The Western democratic system is hailed by the developed world as near perfect and the most superior political system to run a country," it said.

"However, what's happening in the United States today will make more people worldwide reflect on the viability and legitimacy of such a chaotic political system," it said.
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Chinese state media: US government shutdown exposes 'chronic flaws'

BEIJING (Reuters) - China's official news agency said in a commentary on Sunday that the shutdown of the U.S. government exposed "chronic flaws" in the U.S. political system.

Funding for federal agencies ran out at midnight on Friday in Washington after lawmakers failed to agree on a stopgap funding bill.

"What's so ironic is that it came on the first anniversary of Donald Trump's presidency on Saturday, a slap in the face for the leadership in Washington," China's Xinhua News Agency said in a commentary by Xinhua writer Liu Chang.

The commentary said that the Trump administration had "backtracked" on policies supported by his predecessor, Barack Obama, including the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade agreement and U.S. participation in the Paris climate agreement.

"If there was any legacy that has survived the transfer of power, it was the spirit of non-cooperation across party lines," the Xinhua commentary said.

While Xinhua commentaries are not official statements, they offer a reflection of Beijing's thinking.

"The Western democratic system is hailed by the developed world as near perfect and the most superior political system to run a country," it said.

"However, what's happening in the United States today will make more people worldwide reflect on the viability and legitimacy of such a chaotic political system," it said.

At a twice-a-decade congress of China's ruling Communist Party in October, President Xi Jinping was anointed for a second term as party chief, strengthening his grip on power.
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I think every nation is laughing worriedly at the USA but none more so than China, because they stand to gain the most, sure Putin got his personal dig at Clinton and fucked the democratic process, but Russia will still remain a "shithole", where as China they get to do what ever they want now. The only thing that had a hope of slowing that was TTP and unfortunately even if that is renegotiated, its too late.

Multiple countries warned the USA that their elections were being swayed by Russian influences, and while the emphasis is on "if their was collusion" and quite rightly so, the actual event of Russian interference has not even been addressed, after Obama expelling 35 Russian diplomats and adding some new sanctions.

That shit goes down.. and two months later Trump's entertaining Russians in the oval office, sharing secrets and announcing the Russian and American military will work together on preventing election hacking.

WTF?

And his dumb fuck supporters just skip over it's like normal behaviour.
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I think every nation is laughing worriedly at the USA but none more so than China, because they stand to gain the most, sure Putin got his personal dig at Clinton and fucked the democratic process, but Russia will still remain a "shithole", where as China they get to do what ever they want now. The only thing that had a hope of slowing that was TTP and unfortunately even if that is renegotiated, its too late.

Multiple countries warned the USA that their elections were being swayed by Russian influences, and while the emphasis is on "if their was collusion" and quite rightly so, the actual event of Russian interference has not even been addressed, after Obama expelling 35 Russian diplomats and adding some new sanctions.

That shit goes down.. and two months later Trump's entertaining Russians in the oval office, sharing secrets and announcing the Russian and American military will work together on preventing election hacking.

WTF?

And his dumb fuck supporters just skip over it's like normal behaviour.
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Every nation is laughing worriedly at the USA but even more so at China.
China is incredibly oversold, run by one dimensional engineers who are building ghost cities and see through highrises cause that's ALL they know.

Russians told heartland America to vote for Trump, NOT.

Do you really believe your bullshit? If you're not trolling, you are so 80%.

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Every nation is laughing worriedly at the USA but even more so at China.
China is incredibly oversold, run by one dimensional engineers who are building ghost cities and see through highrises cause that's ALL they know.

Russians told heartland America to vote for Trump, NOT.

Do you really believe your bullshit? If you're not trolling, you are so 80%.

Thank god our customers are as dumb and clueless as you.
You really need to stop reading Fox news.
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I think every nation is laughing worriedly at the USA but none more so than China, because they stand to gain the most, sure Putin got his personal dig at Clinton and fucked the democratic process, but Russia will still remain a "shithole", where as China they get to do what ever they want now. The only thing that had a hope of slowing that was TTP and unfortunately even if that is renegotiated, its too late.

Multiple countries warned the USA that their elections were being swayed by Russian influences, and while the emphasis is on "if their was collusion" and quite rightly so, the actual event of Russian interference has not even been addressed, after Obama expelling 35 Russian diplomats and adding some new sanctions.

That shit goes down.. and two months later Trump's entertaining Russians in the oval office, sharing secrets and announcing the Russian and American military will work together on preventing election hacking.

WTF?

And his dumb fuck supporters just skip over it's like normal behaviour.
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So much winning....

One of the things I fail to understand is why this is allowed to happen. We already know this is going to happen, so why can't we prevent it? It's not difficult.

Something like this:
- Thirty days prior to a potential shut down, Congress and the Senate is not paid, not allowed to leave Washington, and no other bills or laws are passed until this is resolved.
- In the event of a shut down, a certain percentage of the past budget should be automatically set aside to allow the US government to continue.
- In the event of a shut down lasting more than one week, members of Congress and the Senate should be fined a percentage of their yearly pay.
- In the event of a shut down lasting more than one month, special elections will be called for to replace both all members of Congress and the Senate.

I fail to understand how this happens. Not just this time, but also with past administrations. They know these deadlines are coming up. In this case, the Trump administration was scrambling to ram through this tax bill just to make it look like they accomplished something.
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I thought Trump was the great negotiator? The best deal maker?
Well, he lies about everything..... So... What did we expect?
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You really need to stop reading Fox news.
Unlike you, I never look at mainstream news.
If you think Russians convinced heartland to vote for Trump you have it ass backwards. The people who voted for Ron Paul and read the DrudgeReport were stuck with Trump as the lesser of evils. I'm going to stay out of these threads from now on. The arguments in here are on a 6th grade level.
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I don't know how they can be.

Trump is a REPUBLICAN President, with a REPUBLICAN house and a REPUBLICAN Senate, and he still managed to let the government shut down. All 3 parts are on the same side and Trumpy still couldn't figure it out.
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And his dumb fuck supporters just skip over it's like normal behaviour.
Americans did it Just get it

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You realise I'm an Australian conservative voter, who wants closer ties between America and the South Pacific and I fully realise an strong and economically powerful America equates to a better long term prospect of my own prosperity and standard of living.

Unlike yourself and other foreign Trump supporters which for some weird reason seem to mostly come from Russian media influenced countries.
Don't tell me you have the the USA's best interests at heart as well... yeah fuck off and go fool a few more yanks...



tick tock..
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here is a massive mob tearing a group of police to pieces cause cop-loverboy didn't like street vendor talking to his lady

so he bashed his brains out

and was ripped to pieces in return.

they can mock whoever they want, they're done today, they have been done throughout history.
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You realise I'm an Australian conservative voter, who wants closer ties between America and the South Pacific and I fully realise an strong and economically powerful America equates to a better long term prospect of my own prosperity and standard of living.

Unlike yourself and other foreign Trump supporters which for some weird reason seem to mostly come from Russian media influenced countries.
Don't tell me you have the the USA's best interests at heart as well... yeah fuck off and go fool a few more yanks...
tick tock..
Of course, you like to use the USA for "my own prosperity and standard of living" and you hate half USA citizen which standard of living going down and they vote for Trump. Others USA ally like do the same, and not pay for it. And of course, you have butthurt now.
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You realise I'm an Australian conservative voter, who wants closer ties between America and the South Pacific and I fully realise an strong and economically powerful America equates to a better long term prospect of my own prosperity and standard of living.

Unlike yourself and other foreign Trump supporters which for some weird reason seem to mostly come from Russian media influenced countries.
Don't tell me you have the the USA's best interests at heart as well... yeah fuck off and go fool a few more yanks...



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here is a massive mob tearing a group of police to pieces cause cop-loverboy didn't like street vendor talking to his lady

so he bashed his brains out

and was ripped to pieces in return.

they can mock whoever they want, they're done today, they have been done throughout history.
Are you saying they're genetically flawed as a race?







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Of course, you like to use the USA for "my own prosperity and standard of living" and you hate half USA citizen which standard of living going down and they vote for Trump. Others USA ally like do the same, and not pay for it. And of course, you have butthurt now.
I have a lot of share's in the USA and carry a shit load of debt here in Aus, so yeah there's a reason I'm right in tune with the American political system, which is a fairly common scenario here in Aus as we have compulsory superannuation and like most mines split between local investments and foreign, indecently I pay Tax in the USA as well and most likely more than many of the posters on this board. I certainly don't hate half of Americans nor would I even dislike 75% of Trumps supporters, but that is that 15% ya know ;)


What I do despise is people from countries that have Government propaganda driven hate for Americans ( Ruskis ) and try and pass that off as support for Trump, when your real agenda is just to fuck the USA in anyway you can. But I do believe, even hope, you and Putty have an ass fucking coming like never before.

Keep in mind, America does not need Russia for anything, and neither does China, But China certainly needs America, and America certainly needs China. Meanwhile Europe invests more heavily than anyone in alternate fuels. Once the dust settles and new world order is arranged.. Russia will still be in the cold and you can thank Putty for that.
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Are you saying they're genetically flawed as a race?
I go to Thailand a lot and the Chinese.. hell yeah stand back they know how to eat and are as messy as fuck. But as an observer they are having fun, spending shitloads and are as noisy as fuck.
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I go to Thailand a lot and the Chinese.. hell yeah stand back they know how to eat and are as messy as fuck. But as an observer they are having fun, spending shitloads and are as noisy as fuck.
I was an on site apartment manager for a 100 unit complex by the beach here in America for 3 years, before moving to live on the Gold Coast in Australia for 5 years. The owners of the complex here were Chinese. They were the most cheap & coniving people I've ever met. Very very nice polite people in person but they paid me scraps, delayed repairs as long as possible on every single unit, violated city codes on all sorts of shit, raised the rent on long time tenants in units with old carpet, try to keep as much of a deposit as possible when someone moved out, the list goes on. I was constantly having to fight them on not fucking people over. Constantly!

If I'd never met or interacted with them you'd think they were the negative stereotype of Jews. I'm not stereotyping all Chinese as being like this it's just my personal experience with Chinese so far in real life.
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I was an on site apartment manager for a 100 unit complex by the beach here in America for 3 years, before moving to live on the Gold Coast in Australia for 5 years. The owners of the complex here were Chinese. They were the most cheap & coniving people I've ever met. Very very nice polite people in person but they paid me scraps, delayed repairs as long as possible on every single unit, violated city codes on all sorts of shit, raised the rent on long time tenants in units with old carpet, try to keep as much of a deposit as possible when someone moved out, the list goes on. I was constantly having to fight them I'm not fucking people over. Constantly!

If I'd never met or interacted with them you'd think they were the negative stereotype of Jews. I'm not stereotyping all Chinese as being like this it's just my personal experience with Chinese so far in real life.
yeha I'm not denying that but on holiday, in Thailand the inner beast comes out and they spend like fuck especially on food. Couples are ok, usually newly weds eating anything in a scooped out pineapple, but more than 4, stay back or they will eat you as well.
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yeha I'm not denying that but on holiday, in Thailand the inner beast comes out and they spend like fuck especially on food. Couples are ok, usually newly weds eating anything in a scooped out pineapple, but more than 4, stay back or they will eat you as well.
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can a people have genetically flawed governments? i was fairly impressed with the crowd response
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Yep they fit in like fucking locals...
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China has been laughing at the West for decades. We gave them our jobs. Trump promised to change that. Hillary promised more of the same.

Which American President slowed down the export of jobs to China?
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Maybe your right for once, because when I think about it I've never seen Russians wear boards shorts there, its Speedos or nothing, and that includes in restaurants as well as the beach. Mind you the sexy furry leopard swimsuit on his hottie is most certainly Russian, so for arguments sake lets say its a Ukrainian with a Russian bride.

And just to show I'm not totally fucking racist

Here's a typical Chinese lady been out for her morning swim, you go lay on Kata beach in Phuket for a few hours and you will see dozens of these

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Which American President slowed down the export of jobs to China?
Who gave China your job? No American president promised a British expat in Czechoslovakia his job back
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Maybe your right for once, because when I think about it I've never seen Russians wear boards shorts there, its Speedos or nothing, and that includes in restaurants as well as the beach. Mind you the sexy furry leopard swimsuit on his hottie is most certainly Russian, so for arguments sake lets say its a Ukrainian with a Russian bride.

And just to show I'm not totally fucking racist

Here's a typical Chinese lady been out for her morning swim, you go lay on Kata beach in Phuket for a few hours and you will see dozens of these

I am always right. As I see AU have a reason for panic.

PNG: Australian investment vacuum being filled by China
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Australia is hopeful that the US will join TPP, finance minister says
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Australia should not fear Chinese influence in Papua New Guinea, Government says
Australia should not fear Chinese influence in Papua New Guinea, Government says - China power - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
Papua New Guinea is more an issue for the international companies ( mining) operating out of Australia, BHP and the likes not really an issue, Australia's invested billions there for fuck all return except for those mining companies .

Think of it like this, less than 30,000 Australians a year visit there, 1.2 million go to Bali yet Papua New Guinea is only 4 hours away vs 7 hours to Bali,.. and has nicer beaches ;)

So.. We'd rather holiday in Muslim country than go there and doing business is the same.

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TTP now named CPTPP, like they say America is welcome to join, which is a bit fucking different than being at the negotiating table making sure your country gets what it wants or needs, but they are welcome to join and as Abe pointed out.. so is China.

But how those policies are set out is being decided now and the USA is no longer apart of those discussions.

welcome to join later though..

I just did a search to see what American farmers are saying, heres one..

TPP countries move on without the U.S. | National Hog Farmer

Once the new trade agreement is finalized, member countries will enjoy lower tariff trade with one another. The CPTPP will sharply cut agricultural tariffs for the 11 country members. Also, Korea, the Philippines and Thailand are expected to join the new trade agreement once it is ratified. Thus U.S. companies and industries will find themselves at a disadvantage. U.S. agriculture is expected to lose sales and market share once the agreement goes into effect.


According to Japanese media reports nearly two-dozen stipulations sought by the U.S. in the original TPP deal were shelved after Washington withdrew.

Pacific Rim trade pact makes step toward new deal without US | The Sacramento Bee

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Trump fucked America BIGLY on that, he has cost you TRILLIONS in lost trade, and he did that on day two with a stroke of a pen.

Winning right?
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Papua New Guinea is more an issue for the international companies ( mining) operating out of Australia, BHP and the likes not really an issue, Australia's invested billions there for fuck all return except for those mining companies .
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TTP now named CPTPP, like they say America is welcome to join, which is a bit fucking different than being at the negotiating table making sure your country gets what it wants or needs, but they are welcome to join and as Abe pointed out.. so is China.
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I just did a search to see what American farmers are saying, heres one..

TPP countries move on without the U.S. | National Hog Farmer

Once the new trade agreement is finalized, member countries will enjoy lower tariff trade with one another. The CPTPP will sharply cut agricultural tariffs for the 11 country members. Also, Korea, the Philippines and Thailand are expected to join the new trade agreement once it is ratified. Thus U.S. companies and industries will find themselves at a disadvantage. U.S. agriculture is expected to lose sales and market share once the agreement goes into effect.


According to Japanese media reports nearly two-dozen stipulations sought by the U.S. in the original TPP deal were shelved after Washington withdrew.
Trump fucked America BIGLY on that, he has cost you TRILLIONS in lost trade, and he did that on day two with a stroke of a pen.

Winning right?
It is a good place for missile not for economy and Philippines near.

Philippines, Russia sign two military deals
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-p...-idUSKBN1CU1K6



Trump work for USA citizens, his voters.

Trump?s beef with the TPP is that he claims it will hurt American workers and undercut US companies. His stance on trade is protectionist: he believes that the average American farmer and auto worker has lost out from the fact that labour is cheap in developing countries like China, Vietnam, and Malaysia.

He?s definitely not wrong here?many low-skilled jobs that used to belong to the backbone of American industrial towns have been shipped overseas because, hey, if no one (read: the government) is stopping profit-driven corporations from lowering production costs, what incentive would they have to continue manufacturing products in higher cost jurisdictions like the US?
Here's why Trump hates the Trans-Pacific Partnership so much - Business Insider
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It is a good place for missile not for economy and Philippines near.

Philippines, Russia sign two military deals
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-p...-idUSKBN1CU1K6



Trump work for USA citizens, his voters.

Trump’s beef with the TPP is that he claims it will hurt American workers and undercut US companies. His stance on trade is protectionist: he believes that the average American farmer and auto worker has lost out from the fact that labour is cheap in developing countries like China, Vietnam, and Malaysia.

He’s definitely not wrong here—many low-skilled jobs that used to belong to the backbone of American industrial towns have been shipped overseas because, hey, if no one (read: the government) is stopping profit-driven corporations from lowering production costs, what incentive would they have to continue manufacturing products in higher cost jurisdictions like the US?
Here's why Trump hates the Trans-Pacific Partnership so much - Business Insider
Trumps beef with Tpp and the same reason RT clucked you over it was that under the original conditions if the USA decided to add sanctions to a county.. ( RUSSIA ), then all in the group had to as well. Hence why it was so urgent to cancel on day two of his presidency. Pure and simple there is your reason.

My guess is Trump will rejoin, just with none of the conditions the USA wanted or and most scary.. China does. Either way or not at all.. it's American farmers who get screwed.

As for Russia selling Duterte jeeps and giving them guns.. whatever
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Trumps beef with Tpp and the same reason RT clucked you over it was that under the original conditions if the USA decided to add sanctions to a county.. ( RUSSIA ), then all in the group had to as well. Hence why it was so urgent to cancel on day two of his presidency. Pure and simple there is your reason.

My guess is Trump will rejoin, just with none of the conditions the USA wanted or and most scary.. China does. Either way or not at all.. it's American farmers who get screwed.

As for Russia selling Duterte jeeps and giving them guns.. whatever
China will join which was build against them? Or Trump will sign agreement from which his electorate does not receive moni -> and not elect him?


President Trump says he would consider re-entering the Trans-Pacific Partnership if he can secure a "substantially better deal" for the U.S.
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Trump is also trying to re-negotiate the three-way NAFTA trade deal with Canada and Mexico. He says he'll pull out of that if the U.S. can't secure better terms.

"NAFTA is a horrible deal ? we're negotiating it. I may terminate nafta, I may not. We'll see what happens. And I went around and told stadiums full of people ? we may terminate it, we may not," he said.

Mr. Trump had previously called NAFTA "a disaster" and said in the Oval Office this past Fall that he's been "opposed to NAFTA for a long time."
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China will join which was build against them? Or Trump will sign agreement from which his electorate does not receive moni -> and not elect him?
USA is out of the trading deal, originally the trade off for the USA was to being able to better impose sanctions and slow the growth of China with the idea of helping out countries like Malaysia who also have cheap labour more reliant on trade with the USA than China, From Americas side it would of meant cheap stuff came from partner countries rather than China. ( Slowing their growth )

Because the USA left the deal most of the conditions it wanted have been removed, so as a trade deal, there's nothing to stop China joining it now. Same with the USA rejoining, but because they left the negotiating table they won't get half of what they wanted before if they decide to rejoin, deals being done now, Trumps only back tracking because the deals going ahead with out the USA and its American business that will directly lose, mainly through anything they trade with Japan.
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BTW my concluding guess is trump rejoins, dreamers get allowed, and he ends up happy with 10 miles of wall, then the economy tanks as interest rates start raising since everything's done on borrowed money.
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BTW my concluding guess is trump rejoins, dreamers get allowed, and he ends up happy with 10 miles of wall, then the economy tanks as interest rates start raising since everything's done on borrowed money.
You said you have some investments here. Are you selling them? Shorting the market? You seem pretty sure Trump is going to send us into a recession. Money talks bullshit walks.
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