Reason for Net Neutrality explained - GoFuckYourself.com

wehateporn · 01-04-2018, 05:51 PM

By some guy on Reddit

*tl;dr: This is part of a five step process to turn broadband data in the US into the monetization platform cable had. This is due to cord cutting. Source : multiple contacts in the industry including myself to an extent *

Edit: Step 3 is happening way sooner than expected. Check out the video in another reddit thread and let me know if you notice anything interesting about the language used at the end

Most people are missing the bigger picture here, and it's not about slowing speeds across the board.

The real goal here is to get all data under one umbrella, then impose data caps (extremely low ones), then use the repeal of Net Neutrality to push cable-like packages for things like Netflix and Twitch to have those sites avoid counting against the cap.

The push to get all mobile and otherwise non-broadband data classified as broadband is to assure that any data you use on any device counts against a cap.

The slow and imminent death of cable is the cause of this. The reason ISPs didn't start down this path earlier was because cord cutting wasn't nearly as prevalent five years ago, and companies still didn't have a clear cut path to monetizing the internet.

So, this is just the next step. Look for language about caps to come up after midterms, and for aggressive bills to be pushed through allowing very low data caps nationwide.

You will also see some sort of push to completely remove the possibility of start up ISPs. This will take form in an infrastructure bill severely limiting access to poles and underground junctions by new companies without direct permission from the existing ISPs that have cable on those poles.

Step 1: repealing Net Neutrality. This allows them to offer packages that don't count against a data cap.

Step 2: push to classify all data under one umbrella, so all data counts against said cap.

Step 3: eliminate the possibility of local ISP startups by making access to infrastructure either impossible, unreasonably expensive, or take far too much time for a new company to feasibly compete. Edit: To clarify, and to take from another post that I wrote before I saw the new video trying to propagate against local startup/municipal ISPs:

As to the infrastructure side start looking for ads and bills being pushed to "focus on local safety and security" and to "improve infrastructure and roads", these are ways to pass things that don't let upstarts near the junctions, poles, and do the required splicing to actually get access to the existing network.

Step 4: implement data caps. This will be the time where aggressive shilling will take place on the form of "everyone is using so much internet we have to. You can't just let these people take your internet!"

Step 5: this is the end game that we are talking about when NN got thrown out. Majority of plans will have a 10-20 GB data plan monthly. Going over will be extremely expensive. Packages will be offered for different websites to not count against that cap. This is where you can expect to pay over 100$ a month for just internet for the same speeds you have now for unlimited access to only certain sites. Torrenting will clearly be hit extremely hard here.

Source: Have family who work in the industry and also work for an electrical contractor who does work for some ISPs, the plans are starting to get out.

Rochard · 01-04-2018, 06:30 PM

We have pretty much cut the cable. We have Netlix, Hulu, and Amazon Prime. At this point, not much sense to watch regular TV any more. We just got Amazon Firestick for Christmas and we can now use any TV or any computer to access these three.

Why do I need cable TV for?

crockett · 01-04-2018, 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wehateporn

By some guy on Reddit

*tl;dr: This is part of a five step process to turn broadband data in the US into the monetization platform cable had. This is due to cord cutting. Source : multiple contacts in the industry including myself to an extent *

Edit: Step 3 is happening way sooner than expected. Check out the video in another reddit thread and let me know if you notice anything interesting about the language used at the end

Most people are missing the bigger picture here, and it's not about slowing speeds across the board.

The real goal here is to get all data under one umbrella, then impose data caps (extremely low ones), then use the repeal of Net Neutrality to push cable-like packages for things like Netflix and Twitch to have those sites avoid counting against the cap.

The push to get all mobile and otherwise non-broadband data classified as broadband is to assure that any data you use on any device counts against a cap.

The slow and imminent death of cable is the cause of this. The reason ISPs didn't start down this path earlier was because cord cutting wasn't nearly as prevalent five years ago, and companies still didn't have a clear cut path to monetizing the internet.

So, this is just the next step. Look for language about caps to come up after midterms, and for aggressive bills to be pushed through allowing very low data caps nationwide.

You will also see some sort of push to completely remove the possibility of start up ISPs. This will take form in an infrastructure bill severely limiting access to poles and underground junctions by new companies without direct permission from the existing ISPs that have cable on those poles.

Step 1: repealing Net Neutrality. This allows them to offer packages that don't count against a data cap.

Step 2: push to classify all data under one umbrella, so all data counts against said cap.

Step 3: eliminate the possibility of local ISP startups by making access to infrastructure either impossible, unreasonably expensive, or take far too much time for a new company to feasibly compete. Edit: To clarify, and to take from another post that I wrote before I saw the new video trying to propagate against local startup/municipal ISPs:

As to the infrastructure side start looking for ads and bills being pushed to "focus on local safety and security" and to "improve infrastructure and roads", these are ways to pass things that don't let upstarts near the junctions, poles, and do the required splicing to actually get access to the existing network.

Step 4: implement data caps. This will be the time where aggressive shilling will take place on the form of "everyone is using so much internet we have to. You can't just let these people take your internet!"

Step 5: this is the end game that we are talking about when NN got thrown out. Majority of plans will have a 10-20 GB data plan monthly. Going over will be extremely expensive. Packages will be offered for different websites to not count against that cap. This is where you can expect to pay over 100$ a month for just internet for the same speeds you have now for unlimited access to only certain sites. Torrenting will clearly be hit extremely hard here.

Source: Have family who work in the industry and also work for an electrical contractor who does work for some ISPs, the plans are starting to get out.

This is what you supported when you supported Trump.. He stright up said he was against Net Neutrality.. as have pretty much every republican in Congress..

Cable companies will take it a step further though and will rent you a internet box to sit on your TV and the Internet will get. Dumbed down to a recycled version of webtv..

I posted this would happen years ago.. probably around least 8 years ago right on this board.

wehateporn · 01-04-2018, 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett

This is what you supported when you supported Trump.. He stright up said he was against Net Neutrality.. as gave pretty much every republican in Congress..

Both sides do what their lobbyists have told them to do, it is a corrupt system. Hillary would have us in WW3 by now, that was her job, so Trump is still the lesser evil at this point in time.

magneto664 · 01-04-2018, 07:33 PM

So, this is a good news for trump supporter

crockett · 01-04-2018, 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wehateporn

Both sides do what their lobbyists have told them to do, it is a corrupt system. Hillary would have us in WW3 by now, that was her job, so Trump is still the lesser evil at this point in time.

You continue to claim Hillary wanted ww3, meanwhile its Trump who keeps throwing the nuclear threat around...not to mention repeated threats to use military force in NK as well as Iran..

wehateporn · 01-05-2018, 05:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett

You continue to claim Hillary wanted ww3, meanwhile its Trump who keeps throwing the nuclear threat around...not to mention repeated threats to use military force in NK as well as Iran..

Hillary admitted she was planning WW3. The nuclear button stuff is just Twitter talk, not to be taken seriously

NewNick · 01-05-2018, 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn

Hillary admitted she was planning WW3. The nuclear button stuff is just Twitter talk, not to be taken seriously

So as usual Trump does something bad / stupid / dangerous and its all:

a) Hillary's fault.

b) He didnt really mean it.

c) Fake news.

Wake the fuck up and stop making excuses for this idiot.

wehateporn · 01-05-2018, 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NewNick

So as usual Trump does something bad / stupid / dangerous and its all:

a) Hillary's fault.

b) He didnt really mean it.

c) Fake news.

Wake the fuck up and stop making excuses for this idiot.

You've missed the point of the thread, I'm here spreading awareness of why the repeal of net neutrality is a scam

I'm also not a left/right person, the US system is corrupt, I will tell you who the lesser evils is from an outside perspective. The US people need to tear down their current system and replace it with a less corrupt one.

Bladewire · 01-05-2018, 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett

This is what you supported when you supported Trump.. He stright up said he was against Net Neutrality.. as have pretty much every republican in Congress..

Cable companies will take it a step further though and will rent you a internet box to sit on your TV and the Internet will get. Dumbed down to a recycled version of webtv..

I posted this would happen years ago.. probably around least 8 years ago right on this board.

You are talking to a guy in Poland that posts anti American shit here multiple times a day every single day and said he'd rather live in Russia than America. He wants bad shit to happen to America that's why he's a Putin shill that spams alt-right talking points daily.

crockett · 01-05-2018, 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wehateporn

Hillary admitted she was planning WW3. The nuclear button stuff is just Twitter talk, not to be taken seriously

Sure she did and Alex Jones got the scoop..

crockett · 01-05-2018, 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wehateporn

You've missed the point of the thread, I'm here spreading awareness of why the repeal of net neutrality is a scam

I'm also not a left/right person, the US system is corrupt, I will tell you who the lesser evils is from an outside perspective. The US people need to tear down their current system and replace it with a less corrupt one.

Sure you are...

NewNick · 01-05-2018, 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wehateporn

I will tell you who the lesser evils is from an outside perspective.

Well its a fucking good job someone is telling us.

Thank fuck you are here or we would all be running around getting it wrong all the time !

PR_Glen · 01-05-2018, 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard

We have pretty much cut the cable. We have Netlix, Hulu, and Amazon Prime. At this point, not much sense to watch regular TV any more. We just got Amazon Firestick for Christmas and we can now use any TV or any computer to access these three.

Why do I need cable TV for?

missing the point as per usual...

What is it you think your wifi router is plugged into exactly?

01-04-2018, 05:51 PM	#1
wehateporn Promoting Debate on GFY Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 27,172	Reason for Net Neutrality explained By some guy on Reddit tl;dr: This is part of a five step process to turn broadband data in the US into the monetization platform cable had. This is due to cord cutting. Source : multiple contacts in the industry including myself to an extent Edit: Step 3 is happening way sooner than expected. Check out the video in another reddit thread and let me know if you notice anything interesting about the language used at the end Most people are missing the bigger picture here, and it's not about slowing speeds across the board. The real goal here is to get all data under one umbrella, then impose data caps (extremely low ones), then use the repeal of Net Neutrality to push cable-like packages for things like Netflix and Twitch to have those sites avoid counting against the cap. The push to get all mobile and otherwise non-broadband data classified as broadband is to assure that any data you use on any device counts against a cap. The slow and imminent death of cable is the cause of this. The reason ISPs didn't start down this path earlier was because cord cutting wasn't nearly as prevalent five years ago, and companies still didn't have a clear cut path to monetizing the internet. So, this is just the next step. Look for language about caps to come up after midterms, and for aggressive bills to be pushed through allowing very low data caps nationwide. You will also see some sort of push to completely remove the possibility of start up ISPs. This will take form in an infrastructure bill severely limiting access to poles and underground junctions by new companies without direct permission from the existing ISPs that have cable on those poles. Step 1: repealing Net Neutrality. This allows them to offer packages that don't count against a data cap. Step 2: push to classify all data under one umbrella, so all data counts against said cap. Step 3: eliminate the possibility of local ISP startups by making access to infrastructure either impossible, unreasonably expensive, or take far too much time for a new company to feasibly compete. Edit: To clarify, and to take from another post that I wrote before I saw the new video trying to propagate against local startup/municipal ISPs: As to the infrastructure side start looking for ads and bills being pushed to "focus on local safety and security" and to "improve infrastructure and roads", these are ways to pass things that don't let upstarts near the junctions, poles, and do the required splicing to actually get access to the existing network. Step 4: implement data caps. This will be the time where aggressive shilling will take place on the form of "everyone is using so much internet we have to. You can't just let these people take your internet!" Step 5: this is the end game that we are talking about when NN got thrown out. Majority of plans will have a 10-20 GB data plan monthly. Going over will be extremely expensive. Packages will be offered for different websites to not count against that cap. This is where you can expect to pay over 100$ a month for just internet for the same speeds you have now for unlimited access to only certain sites. Torrenting will clearly be hit extremely hard here. Source: Have family who work in the industry and also work for an electrical contractor who does work for some ISPs, the plans are starting to get out.

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