Rochard

They set off bombs, then shot everyone as they left. Then they shot at the first responders.

I've been thinking & saying this for years.... It was only a matter of time before terrorists got smart and start using military tactics to these attacks. Why send in a single bomber to kill thirty people when you can put bomb in place, kill thirty, and then kill hundreds more as they flee.

Here in the US we are huge targets. Wait until they attack an oil refinery and set it off. It will kill thousands.

Egypt Mosque Attack Kills 235, Injures 109: State Media | Time

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NatalieK

a disgusting attack, one of the worst in a long time and the amount dead, well, awful

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why the fuck they do all this?

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Terrorist Muslims (the MB (Muslim Brotherhood + ISIS)) killing observant Muslims.

Killing civilians intentionally and indiscriminately is a war crime for an army; for a political organization to massacre civilians is a crime against humanity.

Matt 26z

I remember when libtards cried tears of joy when the muslim brotherhood led the so-called arab spring.

Rochard

Because.... someone somewhere doesn't like someone else.

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crockett

Back before 9/11 I used to drive past Patrick AF base on A1A in FL and think how easy it would be to run though the fence in a car or truck and simply destroy millions of dollars of aircraft.. It was like all just sitting there a easy target.. Just about anyone could get on the base as well, I used to go there a lot for surplus sales.

After 9/11 happened like a few days later, I was driving to work and overnight the military had set up sand bag positions in the middle of A1A armed with M60 machine guns, and completely blocked off the road.

It was closed for close to a year, they wanted to keep it blocked off permanently but local govts were having a shit storm because lack of traffic was killing tourism in Cocoa Beach.. They bombed proofed a building that was near the highway and built a big ass wall allong the road at the critical points. They no longer just leave planes on the air strips near the highway as well..

Basically, someone woke the fuck up and realized that base was vunerable as fuck...

There are things like this all over the place, doesnt have to be military targets either., There is simpky far too many targets to secure.. Honestly Im simply amazed there hasnt been more sucessful attacks.

It just shows people who do these attacks are not very intelligent or well trained. Same can be said of most of these mass shooters, its not hard to set up a situation where you could kill a few hundrend people...

I mean hell even that vegas shooter, had all the guns and ammo he could possibly need and over all considering he was literally shooting fish in a barrel he killed a very small precentage. Also look at the guy in DC who attacked the baseball field.

That guy along could have single handely taken out 15 to 20 congressmen if he wasnt such a bad shot.. He ended up wounding one.

Yeah, we are pretty fucking vunerable, but seems most of these guys are pretty bad at what they do. A hand full of specal ops trained guys could literally do so much more carnal damage than what 100s of these brainwashed fools can do, so I dont worry too much about jihadists or nutters.. I worry about what a sane person with a clear target list could do..

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Rochard

You are right - there are too many targets to secure.

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Barry-xlovecam

That church massacre in Texas was a lot like what happened in Egypt today in that worshipers were victims of mass murder. The difference is that in Egypt it was Islamic terrorism and in Texas it was plain psychosis. Same as in Vegas -- the shooter was nuts.

It is easier for me to see the rationale of a political mass murderer -- blinded with hate -- he does evil for an evil cause. The US American terrorist murders for personal vendetta -- that is even more evil.

Trump says we need a wall to stop this ... What a fuckin' opportunist idiot. You cannot wall out domestic terrorism. You cannot wall out Islamic Terrorists either. Men have been dying behind their city walls since antiquity.

Spunky

Just horrible .Terrorism seems to be getting larger with more frequency

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Sarn

>235 plus dead in terrorist attack
wow
>They set off bombs, then shot everyone as they left. Then they shot at the first responders.
the guy from Vegas had taught them how did terror-attack right. effectiveness growth, still not like ben laden but planning better

thommy

true - and the worst of all is that the terrorists are successful and get what they want because this right wing nutters hate ALL muslim for it. this is exactly the strategy and what ISIS wants because it will breed more terrorists every day.

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Sarn

in Egypt Mosque biggest place where right-wing nutters hate Muslims

oppoten

I don't think Muslims give a fuck about white right wingers.

I doubt if they asked the girls in Rotherham and Cologne who they voted for. Some posters make ISIS look like a proxy for something else.

thommy

fist of all get informed - suffism is a form of islam wich is knowing as "liberal"

for islamic fundamentalists they are on the same side as all the western world but when this people would show up wherever in the western world they would be treated like part of isis.
and this will make them part of isis.

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Really sad to hear

Sarn

all who not want kill infidels = traitors for them for true islam.
but they do not want to kill people, they want to turn non-muslim into muslim = jihad

Barry-xlovecam

Last death toll I read this morning was 305 dead. Additionally -- 200 non fatal casualties (so far).

crockett

This IMO is the interesting thing with these people. They aren't actually anti western or anti white people, but rather pro certain sect of the Muslims.

Meaning as long as you are willing to join them in cutting people's heads off you can be part of the gang regardless of your race or color or nationality.

Granted they aren't going to accept cutting block conversions but it's kind of interesting that unlike most groups it's not racially modivated hate but rather Prue relgious hate.

oppoten

so many Muslim experts in this thread

Matt 26z

It is a beautiful day in the middle east when muzzies are killing muzzies.

PornDiscounts-V

Sufism is to Islam what the Catholic religion is to Christianity. Mystical, with spell casting and extra stuff not from the Bible/Koran. False idols up the ass, etc, etc.

They killed them because to them they were worse than a Christian. They take good Muslims and turn them into infidels.

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I remember that.... Clintonites Morsis greatest supporters...

Sarn

have one little problem)) it is not a sect - it is religion


A worldwide caliphate is the concept of a single one-world government, supported in particular by Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, the leader of the Islamic fundamentalist militant group the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant. On April 8, 2006, the Daily Times of Pakistan reported that at a rally held in Islamabad the militant organization Sipah-e-Sahaba Pakistan called for the formation of a worldwide caliphate, which was to begin in Pakistan. In 2014, Baghdadi claimed to have succeeded in the creation of a worldwide caliphate.

Hizb ut-Tahrir, a pan-Islamic political organization, believes that all Muslims should unite in a worldwide caliphate that will "challenge, and ultimately conquer, the West." Because extremists often commit acts of violence in pursuit of this goal, it lacks appeal among a wider audience. Brigitte Gabriel argues that the goal of a worldwide caliphate is central to the enterprise of radical Islam.

Over time, various historians and scholars have had differing ideas about the origins of this concept. One viewpoint is expressed in the 2007 book Islamic Imperialism: A History, in which the author Efraim Karsh explains his belief of the concept's origin:

As a universal religion, Islam envisages a global political order in which all humankind will live under Muslim rule as either believers or subject communities. In order to achieve this goal it is incumbent on all free, male, adult Muslims to carry out an uncompromising struggle "in the path of Allah", or jihad. This in turn makes those parts of the world that have not yet been conquered by the House of Islam an abode of permanent conflict (Dar al-Harb, the "house of war") which will only end with Islam's eventual triumph.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worldwide_caliphate


In the Holy Land (1095?1291)
The Crusades were a series of religious wars sanctioned by the Latin Church in the medieval period. The most commonly known Crusades are the campaigns in the Eastern Mediterranean aimed at recovering the Holy Land from Islamic rule but the term "Crusades" is also applied to other church-sanctioned campaigns.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusades

Barry-xlovecam

I would not want to live under a Theocracy nor a Dictator.
Mass murdering people because of their religion is never justifiable.

I hope the find these criminals and boil them alive -- that is what they deserve.
Let it be a warning ...

karolinaboy

The US are the god fathers of terrorism.

EonBlue

You do realize that Catholicism is pretty much the original Christianity, right? All the other sects of Christianity are offshoots of Catholicism.



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CarlosTheGaucho

Sufism is the mystical Islam, and Ahmadya make up about 2 pct of the Muslim population.

What is important is that the doctrine of Islam defines as an apostate anybody who strays away from the doctrine codified in the Qur'an and in the Sunna of Mohammad.

In other words, you do not need to denounce your faith or apostate in order to be treated as such.

That's a big misconception that the apologists for Islam use all the time, when trying to claim that Jihadis are somewhat twisting the Islamic doctrine, since many of their victims are other Muslims. In fact they act just and precisely according to the Islamic doctrine.

What happened in Egypt or Somalia recently, and happens regularly all across the Middle East and Islamic Africa (it's just not that widely reported in the West) is called Jihad against 'hyppocrites" or "Jihad of purification".

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EonBlue

100% bang on.




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