N/A sales with CCbill - GoFuckYourself.com

femdomdestiny · 11-16-2017, 05:44 PM

I guess I am not the only one noticing an increasing number of N/A sales with CCbill. In this moment, almost all sales are in this status which means that I don't have a clue where they are coming from. That means that I don't know what pages are resulting in sales and what I am doing good or bad.

Below is the example of a sale:

Now, this is exactly the same sale shown and tracked through sliiing.com

As we can see, it clearly showing the page where it came from. This is just one example, there are many.

What is stopping CCbill to show us URL? It worked before

InfoGuy · 11-16-2017, 08:38 PM

Could it be from more people using private browsing while surfing the net?

Paul&John · 11-17-2017, 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by InfoGuy

Could it be from more people using private browsing while surfing the net?

He just said that the same sale's url is visible via sliiing

AmeliaG · 11-17-2017, 03:11 AM

Have you opened a ticket with CCBill or asked your rep?

BigFurry · 11-17-2017, 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by InfoGuy

Could it be from more people using private browsing while surfing the net?

Private browsing mode doesn't hide the referring URLs.

femdomdestiny · 11-17-2017, 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by AmeliaG

Have you opened a ticket with CCBill or asked your rep?

Yes, long ago when I've noticed this problem. (now it is worse, as described above) The answer didn't have a solution or reasonable explanation. Later, I've remembered to check sliing and sales there have full URL where CCbill says it is N/A

AmeliaG · 11-17-2017, 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by femdomdestiny

Yes, long ago when I've noticed this problem. (now it is worse, as described above) The answer didn't have a solution or reasonable explanation. Later, I've remembered to check sliing and sales there have full URL where CCbill says it is N/A

Interesting. Seems odd that the data is obviously there if other software can see it.

Klen · 11-17-2017, 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by AmeliaG

Interesting. Seems odd that the data is obviously there if other software can see it.

They probably have lazy programmers which dont bother to fix simple error.

bns666 · 11-17-2017, 05:11 AM

i gave up on promoting ccbill sites long time ago...

InfoGuy · 11-17-2017, 05:15 AM

Mozilla Firefox Tracking Protection

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Block lists in Firefox

You can change the block list used to block third-party trackers. By default, Private Browsing with Tracking Protection uses the Disconnect.me basic protection list. You can change this to use the Disconnect.me strict protection list instead.

The basic protection list blocks commonly known analytics trackers, social sharing trackers and advertising trackers.

Mozilla Firefox Do Not Track

Quote:

What is Do Not Track?

Do Not Track is a step toward putting you in control of the way your information is collected and used online. Do Not Track is a feature in Firefox that allows you to let a website know you would like to opt-out of third-party tracking for purposes including behavioral advertising. It does this by transmitting a Do Not Track HTTP header every time your data is requested from the Web.

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Originally Posted by Paul&John

He just said that the same sale's url is visible via sliiing

CCBill is commonly known and likely to be blocked. Is Sliiing well known enough to be blocked? That could explain the difference. Another possibility is that CCBill honors the Do Not Track requests and Sliiing doesn't. Honoring Do Not Track is similar to robots.txt and web crawlers. Adherence is voluntary.

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Originally Posted by BigFurry

Private browsing mode doesn't hide the referring URLs.

Maybe not by itself, but how about Private Browsing with Tracking Protection?

femdomdestiny · 11-17-2017, 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by InfoGuy

Maybe not by itself, but how about Private Browsing with Tracking Protection?

I doubt. This is too advanced. There is no chance that so many customers have knowledge and skills.

The Porn Nerd · 11-17-2017, 01:16 PM

At first I thought it was a Mind Geek sale (YouPorn, Pornhub, Redtube) since MG is now masking referring URLs. But then I see femdondestiny.com as the URL....

CCBill needs to fix this!!

RyuLion · 11-17-2017, 01:24 PM

that person probably had Norton Internet Privacy.

phil-flash · 11-17-2017, 01:41 PM

I noticed it in my stats too...

femdomdestiny · 11-18-2017, 10:28 AM

This is a serious problem for the webmaster. I can't believe that no one is talking about it. We simply need to know where sales are coming from so we can adjust strategies and planning. It is beneficial for webmasters and CCbill (if they don't have some other plan behind this?)

What kind of an excuse is there for a system it the same sale is shown in the other place. That was just one example, there are many.

llporter · 11-18-2017, 03:42 PM

thanks for info.... sticking toe back in and interesting to see how much has changed and yet how soooo much is same headaches as years ago.

rogueteens · 11-19-2017, 02:35 AM

If I ever make a CCBill sale again, I'll let you know what it says.

Paul&John · 11-19-2017, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by rogueteens

If I ever make a CCBill sale again, I'll let you know what it says.

JuicyBunny · 11-19-2017, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by rogueteens

If I ever make a CCBill sale again, I'll let you know what it says.

Eye had 2.....this year. I'll share one with you. ;)

wehateporn · 11-19-2017, 10:53 AM

While CCBill is harder to make a sale on, it is the most likely adult system to still be around 10 years from now

ctggls · 11-19-2017, 12:01 PM

+1 to this. 90% of my sales shows N/A but i?m Getting used to it

femdomdestiny · 11-20-2017, 03:49 AM

I don't think it is funny at all. Just got three sales here and each one is N/A.
I guess that adult business now has a need for a new service: a psychic

Paul&John · 11-20-2017, 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn

While CCBill is harder to make a sale on, it is the most likely adult system to still be around 10 years from now

Not sure what advantage does it offers to me for it being around if I can't sell shit there lol

klinton · 11-20-2017, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by femdomdestiny

I guess that adult business now has a need for a new service: a psychic

Aren't you one, Mr.P ?

server logs !

Bladewire · 11-20-2017, 08:53 AM

Use the new CCBill API to avoid this issue

wehateporn · 11-20-2017, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul&John

Not sure what advantage does it offers to me for it being around if I can't sell shit there lol

From an affiliate perspective, let's say CCBill sells at 50% of the rate of Zombaio, you invest years in both, Zombaio making $1000 per month, with CCBill making $500 per month. Zombaio is good in the beginning, until they go bust or stop paying, whereas CCBill still continues for many years with the $500 per month.

rayadp05 · 11-20-2017, 10:33 AM

I honestly don't understand why people say that they don't make sales with CCBill programs. My site has always done very well in terms of generating sales and I've been using CCBill for 13 years now. I don't think you can blame the processor, the hosting company or the domain registrant. People always want to shift the blame when they're not making sales.

I think it depends on the program itself, as well as the type of content bring promoted. Another big factor is updating the site on time and on a regular basis. I always update my site very regularly with new models and content, which is good because it gives the customer a reason to come back to log in. I have customers that have been members for YEARS ....and the sales continue to flow in just about every other hour during the day and evening hours. These are new sales and re-bills.

I am just stating my own personal experiences and views on the matter. But yeah, I've just never understood why people say that because that's clearly not the case with my program. I think you are cutting yourself short by lumping ALL programs together that use CCBill just because a few others didn't do so well.

femdomdestiny · 11-20-2017, 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rayadp05

I honestly don't understand why people say that they don't make sales with CCBill programs. My site has always done very well in terms of generating sales and I've been using CCBill for 13 years now. I don't think you can blame the processor, the hosting company or the domain registrant. People always want to shift the blame when they're not making sales.

I think it depends on the program itself, as well as the type of content bring promoted. Another big factor is updating the site on time and on a regular basis. I always update my site very regularly with new models and content, which is good because it gives the customer a reason to come back to log in. I have customers that have been members for YEARS ....and the sales continue to flow in just about every other hour during the day and evening hours. These are new sales and re-bills.

I am just stating my own personal experiences and views on the matter. But yeah, I've just never understood why people say that because that's clearly not the case with my program. I think you are cutting yourself short by lumping ALL programs together that use CCBill just because a few others didn't do so well.

My experience says that conversions are better on the program side compared to affiliate. For example, when I was running a paysite many years ago, updates could be late for months literally, and there were still new signups every day on a relatively small traffic volume. Maybe competition was not so strong back then, but this is my personal experience. Content quality is probably a huge factor plus piracy.

SpicyM · 11-20-2017, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by femdomdestiny

My experience says that conversions are better on the program side compared to affiliate. For example, when I was running a paysite many years ago, updates could be late for months literally, and there were still new signups every day on a relatively small traffic volume. Maybe competition was not so strong back then, but this is my personal experience. Content quality is probably a huge factor plus piracy.

Why did you stop stop the paysite then?

femdomdestiny · 11-20-2017, 03:34 PM

Problem with models, those were solo models sites, plus my car was robbed at some point and all equipment stolen together with fresh footage for the many next updates.

femdomdestiny · 11-20-2017, 05:33 PM

One more in N/A.

All sales today are in the same status. I can't measure the effectiveness of my approach this way if I don't know where from they are coming.

femdomdestiny · 11-20-2017, 05:51 PM

And I've just got one more, luckily, this one can be tracked through sliing.
Same story again:

But CCbill says :

11-16-2017, 05:44 PM	#1
femdomdestiny Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 5,103	N/A sales with CCbill I guess I am not the only one noticing an increasing number of N/A sales with CCbill. In this moment, almost all sales are in this status which means that I don't have a clue where they are coming from. That means that I don't know what pages are resulting in sales and what I am doing good or bad. Below is the example of a sale: Now, this is exactly the same sale shown and tracked through sliiing.com As we can see, it clearly showing the page where it came from. This is just one example, there are many. What is stopping CCbill to show us URL? It worked before __________________ Femdom Destiny -------------------------------------------- ICQ: 463-630-426 email: webmaster(at)femdomdestiny.com

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11-17-2017, 01:16 PM	#12
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11-18-2017, 10:28 AM	#15
femdomdestiny Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 5,103	This is a serious problem for the webmaster. I can't believe that no one is talking about it. We simply need to know where sales are coming from so we can adjust strategies and planning. It is beneficial for webmasters and CCbill (if they don't have some other plan behind this?) What kind of an excuse is there for a system it the same sale is shown in the other place. That was just one example, there are many. __________________ Femdom Destiny -------------------------------------------- ICQ: 463-630-426 email: webmaster(at)femdomdestiny.com

11-18-2017, 03:42 PM	#16
llporter Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Boston Posts: 3,221	thanks for info.... sticking toe back in and interesting to see how much has changed and yet how soooo much is same headaches as years ago.

11-19-2017, 02:35 AM	#17
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11-19-2017, 10:53 AM	#20
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11-19-2017, 12:01 PM	#21
ctggls Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 898	+1 to this. 90% of my sales shows N/A but i?m Getting used to it

11-20-2017, 03:49 AM	#22
femdomdestiny Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 5,103	I don't think it is funny at all. Just got three sales here and each one is N/A. I guess that adult business now has a need for a new service: a psychic __________________ Femdom Destiny -------------------------------------------- ICQ: 463-630-426 email: webmaster(at)femdomdestiny.com

11-20-2017, 08:53 AM	#25
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11-20-2017, 10:33 AM	#27
rayadp05 TRUEAMATEURMODELS.COM Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: TrueAmateurModels.com Posts: 4,186	I honestly don't understand why people say that they don't make sales with CCBill programs. My site has always done very well in terms of generating sales and I've been using CCBill for 13 years now. I don't think you can blame the processor, the hosting company or the domain registrant. People always want to shift the blame when they're not making sales. I think it depends on the program itself, as well as the type of content bring promoted. Another big factor is updating the site on time and on a regular basis. I always update my site very regularly with new models and content, which is good because it gives the customer a reason to come back to log in. I have customers that have been members for YEARS ....and the sales continue to flow in just about every other hour during the day and evening hours. These are new sales and re-bills. I am just stating my own personal experiences and views on the matter. But yeah, I've just never understood why people say that because that's clearly not the case with my program. I think you are cutting yourself short by lumping ALL programs together that use CCBill just because a few others didn't do so well. __________________ TrueAmateurModels.com Twitter TrueAmateurModels.com Affiliate Program

11-20-2017, 03:34 PM	#30
femdomdestiny Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 5,103	Problem with models, those were solo models sites, plus my car was robbed at some point and all equipment stolen together with fresh footage for the many next updates. __________________ Femdom Destiny -------------------------------------------- ICQ: 463-630-426 email: webmaster(at)femdomdestiny.com

11-20-2017, 05:33 PM	#31
femdomdestiny Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 5,103	One more in N/A. All sales today are in the same status. I can't measure the effectiveness of my approach this way if I don't know where from they are coming. __________________ Femdom Destiny -------------------------------------------- ICQ: 463-630-426 email: webmaster(at)femdomdestiny.com

11-20-2017, 05:51 PM	#32
femdomdestiny Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 5,103	And I've just got one more, luckily, this one can be tracked through sliing. Same story again: But CCbill says : __________________ Femdom Destiny -------------------------------------------- ICQ: 463-630-426 email: webmaster(at)femdomdestiny.com