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Old 11-15-2017, 09:57 AM   #1
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Video / Chat Systems - Semi-Adult

I'm searching for scripts / software or open system to use for video chats that are not fully adult related.

I don't need or want a payment system / tokens or any of that stuff.

The chats would be strictly free, and most are not even adult. I also hope it can be done without installing much on the broadcasters computer.

I'm looking for a system where the broadcaster visits a page, logs in, his cam and mic are recognized, and he can start broadcasting.

While, those that are viewing have the streaming video and a chat room, but don't need to join, pay tokens, etc.

Yes, of course this is done on YouTube, Facebook and others... but I want a system I control because some if it will involve nudity and I don't want to be shut down.

I imagine broadcasting from the studio during simple photo shoots and the fans can see how its all done, chat with each other, and now and then the model(s) stop in and chat between outfit changes, etc.

I'm done this in the past and it was well received but it was a pain. I needed to install and use Adobe Flash Media Encoder, then make sure all those settings are correct, and get that going, while having a silly Java based IRC chatroom on the viewing page. It worked, but a pain.

I want to make things simple because I want to have it available to other photographers at the same time. Say my guy in Texas is shooting a girl for me Saturday in Austin. I want it easy for him to broadcast, then just minutes after he is done for another broadcast to happen from another location.

Simple enough to do without hiring extra people / installing much on computers, but without all the token / payment / upselling features of a cam girl style website.

Thoughts or suggestions on a script package that can handle the broadcasting, video steaming and the chat and be easy for broadcasters?
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Old 11-15-2017, 10:09 AM   #2
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Lots of choices out there. Some that come to mind. flashcoms.com avchat.net
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Old 11-15-2017, 10:45 AM   #3
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Thanks Speigelau

They look like decent options.

Other suggestions welcome...
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Old 11-15-2017, 11:35 AM   #4
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Find a developer that understands WebRTC if you want 1-4 room participants.
Look into FlashPhoner -- AWS has that app available on their cloud AWS for larger groups. Maybe it'll cost you $30/hr for use? That is HLS and WebRTC (not Adobe Flash).

I don't understand your monetization strategy here exactly -- an added value offer? -- but you are not going to find a ghetto script to do this ...
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Old 11-15-2017, 11:44 AM   #5
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Hi Jimmy,

We have exactly what you're looking for. We just just putting the finishing touches on a brand new cam system that is super-easy to use, does everything you described, and is expandable with your own code.

We haven't announced the details of the program yet but expect to release it in a week or so.

Please contact me at [email protected], or via skype at **********.2much, or by phone at 1-866-892-5122 and I'll send you a link you can use to test it out.
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Old 11-15-2017, 11:59 AM   #6
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Thanks everybody - seems there are a few good options out there I was not aware of.

Mark - I'll be in touch.
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Old 11-15-2017, 01:56 PM   #7
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Hi Jimmy. Please look at https://www.modelnet.com. Hit me up if you have any questions.
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Old 11-15-2017, 02:07 PM   #8
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Thanks everybody - seems there are a few good options out there I was not aware of.

Mark - I'll be in touch.
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Old 11-15-2017, 03:20 PM   #9
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Thanks Speigelau

They look like decent options.

Other suggestions welcome...
I did not got the entire wish list, but a few of your needs are to find at
https://camazee.com/

I worked with them many years ago, it was for a semi adult site, an Escort business. And their script was pretty good and they have always been here and improved, it amazes me that they are not doing more promo for such a solid product, anyway, give it a look and let me know.
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Old 11-15-2017, 06:42 PM   #10
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I did not got the entire wish list, but a few of your needs are to find at
https://camazee.com/

I worked with them many years ago, it was for a semi adult site, an Escort business. And their script was pretty good and they have always been here and improved, it amazes me that they are not doing more promo for such a solid product, anyway, give it a look and let me know.
Camazee is also a service of our company. I should add it is more likely for individual use. It also has some restrictions. For example payment gateway can't be changed there. It is also used Flash and we are not going to update it with WebRTC streaming at the moment.
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Old 11-16-2017, 04:49 AM   #11
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Chat Servers Archives - Funchatcam Nice interface with lots of freedom.
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Thanks Speigelau

They look like decent options.

Other suggestions welcome...
Don't even consider avchat (or flashcoms for that matter). Both terrible companies to work with and I know this first hand.
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I have emailed these people to ask if I could purchase their source code but never got a response. It's a great avchat alternative and seems to use webrtc (no flash):

https://www.epikchat.com/
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Old 11-16-2017, 07:29 AM   #14
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I get a feeling I am still in 99', every time I look at cam chat solutions.

My tips for you:
- hire guys who actually understand ui
- drop flash
- focus on html5
- focus on ux
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The problem with WebRTC is routing the NAT translations you need TURN and STUN servers like SIP (VOIP). Browser to browser is easy -- multi viewers becomes an issue.

The are quite a few SaaS PSaaS solutions but they ban anything related to pornography or explict/adult webcam use.

Even with source code you would need a to understand the TURN and STUN server protocols as well as using Nginx as a reverse proxy for Node.js < application server.
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The problem with WebRTC is routing the NAT translations you need TURN and STUN servers like SIP (VOIP). Browser to browser is easy -- multi viewers becomes an issue.

The are quite a few SaaS PSaaS solutions but they ban anything related to pornography or explict/adult webcam use.

Even with source code you would need a to understand the TURN and STUN server protocols as well as using Nginx as a reverse proxy for Node.js < application server.
That's not a problem at all since we can take care of it. Our customer shouldn't worry about TURN, STUN, and other technical things at all.

We do not ban pornography Finally one to many connections not an issue for our software because we use a web-server as a middle part between the performer and the viewers.
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Then offer to sell your source code to RazorSharpe :P
RazorSharpe does not want a PSaaS solution.
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The problem with WebRTC is routing the NAT translations you need TURN and STUN servers like SIP (VOIP). Browser to browser is easy -- multi viewers becomes an issue.

The are quite a few SaaS PSaaS solutions but they ban anything related to pornography or explict/adult webcam use.

Even with source code you would need a to understand the TURN and STUN server protocols as well as using Nginx as a reverse proxy for Node.js < application server.
Hey Barry, I agree that there are complexities in using WebRTC (if you previously used flash). Where in flash you just needed to hook up a media server (wowza, red5, etc.) on a single IP, with WebRTC, because of it's peer to peer nature, you'll likely use some signalling over websockets, IP discovery using STUN and TRUN and will need about a half dozen ports.

So yes, there are complexities, but nothing that should stop people from adopting the technology.

It's a shame that Kurento (open source WebRTC server) is no longer a viable solution.

With regards to modelnet's offering, it isn't really what I'm after. I am specifically looking for a community chat application that allows audio/video communication.

Edited to add: I've not looked into this in any detail, but jitsi seems to be a stable option for a video conference server.
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We used that with our Jitsi server and you cannot have many cams on -- voice is fine.

https://free.gotomeeting.com/

The commercial packages I know from our weekly marketing meeting will support 7 or 8 viewers and a cam or two nicely -- maybe they have improved it in the past year (probably so) .
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