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Old 11-14-2017, 03:32 PM   #1
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Another day another shooting

Four dead plus wounded.... again.

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Donny gets out and there is a shooting?

Coincidence?
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Donny gets out and there is a shooting?

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I was thinking Donny gets out and the following day TheRock55 signs up and starts posting.

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Even Trump got so bored about it that he just copied & pasted his "condolences" and didn't even change the city

Donald Trump accused of &#39;copy and paste&#39; condolence after tweeting about wrong mass shooting
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wow, that is 11 that are not gang related or where the victims are know by the assailant

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??? How so. this shooting and the texas shooting were both committed by people who were not allowed to have those guns. In other words there are already laws to stop them from having them. I'm no fan of the NRA, I think that they suck as an organization, but they have always argued for proper enforcement of the laws that are on the books. Apparently, in these last two cases, the laws were not properly enforced, and the perps did not follow the laws.








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??? How so. this shooting and the texas shooting were both committed by people who were not allowed to have those guns. In other words there are already laws to stop them from having them. I'm no fan of the NRA, I think that they suck as an organization, but they have always argued for proper enforcement of the laws that are on the books. Apparently, in these last two cases, the laws were not properly enforced, and the perps did not follow the laws.








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you can't stop people from having guns! the issue is not the guns! it has to do with things the victims may have done to the shooter. there are things way more deadlier than guns. you just wait till they change options. you don't need a gun.
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??? How so. this shooting and the texas shooting were both committed by people who were not allowed to have those guns. In other words there are already laws to stop them from having them. I'm no fan of the NRA, I think that they suck as an organization, but they have always argued for proper enforcement of the laws that are on the books. Apparently, in these last two cases, the laws were not properly enforced, and the perps did not follow the laws.








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The NRA has allowed and encourages the general public to arm themselves with assault rifles. The most popular weapon being sold right now is the AR15 - the civilian model of the M16, which is exactly what I trained with at Paris Island.
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CNN not even mentioned it...I guess it was not a new record, not worth reporting
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The NRA has allowed and encourages the general public to arm themselves with assault rifles. The most popular weapon being sold right now is the AR15 - the civilian model of the M16, which is exactly what I trained with at Paris Island.
No it is not exactly what you trained with so why try and pass that lie off as truth. In addition the last stats that I read less than 1% of gun crimes are committed with so called "Assault Rifles". I have not recently checked so the percentage may have changed. The last I am aware of the guns used in the majority of shootings are "Saturday Night Specials/cheap hand guns".

An "Assault Rifle" is a full automatic rifle. Not a semi automatic with any size of magazine does not an assault rifle make and you damned well know this. So why do you repeatedly state an AR-15 is an "Assault Rifle" when it is not and certainly is not the exact same weapon you trained with, an M-16, which was and is an actual "Assault Rifle".
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No it is not exactly what you trained with so why try and pass that lie off as truth. In addition the last stats that I read less than 1% of gun crimes are committed with so called "Assault Rifles". I have not recently checked so the percentage may have changed. The last I am aware of the guns used in the majority of shootings are "Saturday Night Specials/cheap hand guns".

An "Assault Rifle" is a full automatic rifle. Not a semi automatic with any size of magazine does not an assault rifle make and you damned well know this. So why do you repeatedly state an AR-15 is an "Assault Rifle" when it is not and certainly is not the exact same weapon you trained with, an M-16, which was and is an actual "Assault Rifle".
I think you need to read more closely before outright coming off as a dick.
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I think you need to read more closely before outright coming off as a dick.
I read carefully. Maybe it is you that needs to read more carefully. Rockhard has repeatedly claimed the AR-15 is an Assault Rifle and it is not and it also is not the civilian version of the M-16. He also knows this but keeps repeating the misrepresentations.
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An "Assault Rifle" is a full automatic rifle. Not a semi automatic with any size of magazine does not an assault rifle make and you damned well know this. So why do you repeatedly state an AR-15 is an "Assault Rifle" when it is not and certainly is not the exact same weapon you trained with, an M-16, which was and is an actual "Assault Rifle".
No, you are wrong.

A rifle is used for hunting and target practice. An assault rifle is used to assault a position and kill people. The rate of fire has nothing to do with it. The AR15 I have here in my house is the same exact weapon I trained with in the Marines - the only difference is the rate of fire, a handful of parts. The way it's handled and what it's used for is the same.

It's like saying a Ferrari isn't a Ferrari if you take off the Z rated tires. It's still a Ferrari no matter what wheels you have on it.

This is an AR15:



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Except for a handful of parts, they are the EXACT same weapon.
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CNN not even mentioned it...I guess it was not a new record, not worth reporting
Put a confirmed AR-15 early in the story and it would have been wall to wall coverage.

The guns themselves are what fuel these stories and the national media isn't going to risk putting a large effort into a story that ends up being a handgun.
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people are getting shot and everytime you guys discuss technicalities of weapons instead of what could be done to stop this insanity. do you know how retarded this looks from an outside pov?
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What insanity?

Shootings are rare in the US considering a population of 320+ million. Don't let the media manufacture a crisis.
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Shootings are rare in the US considering a population of 320+ million. Don't let the media manufacture a crisis.
Europe in total has 740 million people, so according to your "logic" there must be twice as many shootings, right?
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No, you are wrong.

A rifle is used for hunting and target practice. An assault rifle is used to assault a position and kill people. The rate of fire has nothing to do with it. The AR15 I have here in my house is the same exact weapon I trained with in the Marines - the only difference is the rate of fire, a handful of parts. The way it's handled and what it's used for is the same.

It's like saying a Ferrari isn't a Ferrari if you take off the Z rated tires. It's still a Ferrari no matter what wheels you have on it.

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This is an M16:



Except for a handful of parts, they are the EXACT same weapon.
well the ar-15 is the civilian version. correct? it cannot switch to auto legally
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yeah but times are so tight you dont want to set trip. then nobody gets paid.
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I'm Dutch and we have strict gun laws here in The Netherlands.. That's nice, but now the bad guys have guns because they don't give a fuck about the law, because guns are easy to buy illegal.

So if shit hits the fan, honest people that just want to defend themselves are fucked.

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No, you are wrong.

A rifle is used for hunting and target practice. An assault rifle is used to assault a position and kill people. The rate of fire has nothing to do with it. The AR15 I have here in my house is the same exact weapon I trained with in the Marines - the only difference is the rate of fire, a handful of parts. The way it's handled and what it's used for is the same.

It's like saying a Ferrari isn't a Ferrari if you take off the Z rated tires. It's still a Ferrari no matter what wheels you have on it.

This is an AR15:



This is an M16:



Except for a handful of parts, they are the EXACT same weapon.
Nonsense. Name me a single Army in the world that goes into battle armed with that famous Assault Rifle the AR-15. It is those few parts that makes the difference between being being an Assault Rifle and not being an Assault Rifle. At this point I will let the matter drop as I do not really care to spend my time over what is silly nonsense on your part.
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Europe in total has 740 million people, so according to your "logic" there must be twice as many shootings, right?
pull out 'urban' gun violence of US stats and see how that looks? just sayin bro
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possibly as weird as voting a man, woman of the year? is it that weird?
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Nonsense. Name me a single Army in the world that goes into battle armed with that famous Assault Rifle the AR-15. It is those few parts that makes the difference between being being an Assault Rifle and not being an Assault Rifle. At this point I will let the matter drop as I do not really care to spend my time over what is silly nonsense on your part.


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Old 11-16-2017, 04:10 AM   #40
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possibly as weird as voting a man, woman of the year? is it that weird?
Did you seriously move to Montana?
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pull out 'urban' gun violence of US stats and see how that looks? just sayin bro
when was the last time a black guy started a mass shooting?

just saying, "bro"
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when was the last time a black guy started a mass shooting?

just saying, "bro"
he's talking about the struggle to control street drugs. whites only deal with weed, meth, and oxy. mostly any pill. no crack, cheese, or molly
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It never was a military weapon and a military weapon does not an "Assault Rifle" make. The '03 was a bolt action, the M1-Garand a Semi Automatic. the M1-Carbine a Semi Automatic, none of which were "Assault Rifles" but were military rifles. An "Assault Rifle" has to be full automatic period. Every semi automatic rifle no matter the design of it is not an "Assault Rifle" period.
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