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Old 10-30-2017, 12:58 PM   #1
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Affiliate Work Flows & Results

I have a couple of questions for those of you that promote sites.

Being a site and content owner, I have found within the last two years that by doing all of the work myself and giving my sites and content tender loving care that the monetary results are way better.

What I mean by this is picking out the thumbs, hand cropping, writing the page title for Google, the meta description for Google, writing detailed and fun to read set descriptions, hand picking and cropping the images to use in hosted galleries, and a whole lot more.

In the past, my employees would do some of this work and the rest was on auto pilot by my coder... which resulted in gallery urls like this...

/hosted/gal/bluewindow
/hosted/gal/cutecouch
/hosted/gal/greencouch

Anyway, to my questions...

I know that it is great that everything is more and more on auto pilot, but at some point does human intervention make a difference.

Choosing specific content or galleries to promote rather than dumping everything into a super listing of everyone's galleries.

I read somewhere in my self help quests that success does not come by magic pills... it comes by doing the daily repeated mundane tasks that made you money on day one.

I truly believe in this concept, even though it is hard to discipline yourself to do this... who said life was easy.

It seems to me that there were a lot of affiliates that I knew from back in the day, they are mostly all gone now... I think they got to big and automated... and had no way to adjust to the changing times. They should have stuck to webmastering their sites instead of auto piloting them.

I am interested to hear the differing points of views... I am sure there will be some
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Old 10-30-2017, 01:03 PM   #2
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we have a subdomain galleries.clubdomcash.com
that points to a convenient folder:
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Old 10-30-2017, 01:20 PM   #3
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I was looking at software to run mine too... but I am skeptical, all of my experiences in the past with third party software was that it eventually became unsupported and I was left with a php and mysql nightmare to unfuck.

I would prefer to code all of the tools myself, which brings a new question.

If I were to create my own gallery tools, what would be the most wanted or used?

Auto thumbs, descriptions, export by date, an RSS feed or others?
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Old 10-30-2017, 01:24 PM   #4
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we have a subdomain galleries.clubdomcash.com
that points to a convenient folder:
/_galleries/cd-v/InternalSceneID
/_galleries/sh-v/InternalSceneID
etc.
TMI already!!

Result:
ClubDom.com presents Venus and Kylie Rogue Use Crop On Exposed Penis
(with both HTML5/CSS globals and PHP unique includes)

(We use Sliiing - Adult affiliate software to list all our content.)
I just went to that sliiing.com site and the nav up top does not even work. How could I be confident with them?

The sitemap at the bottom does not work either... Features | Pricing | Online Demo | Register
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Old 10-30-2017, 02:09 PM   #5
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I was looking at software to run mine too... but I am skeptical, all of my experiences in the past with third party software was that it eventually became unsupported and I was left with a php and mysql nightmare to unfuck.

I would prefer to code all of the tools myself, which brings a new question.

If I were to create my own gallery tools, what would be the most wanted or used?

Auto thumbs, descriptions, export by date, an RSS feed or others?
First, for basic tools I would recommend Woj (find him here on GFY). His tools work great and his support is top notch.

As for automating vs. handcrafting I have found, for me and my 86+paysites, determining what tasks require the most creative attention and which ones are more basic is key. In other words, the more 'artistic' or creative a task (picking domain names, choosing thumbs, cropping, editing preview videos, etc) the more I do it myself or hand it over to a trusted employee. You can't (and shouldn't) do everything yourself so just do those things that stick to your original vision. No one else knows your vision better than you.
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I just went to that sliiing.com site and the nav up top does not even work. How could I be confident with them?

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OMG..ok I just told him..
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Old 10-30-2017, 03:31 PM   #7
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young whipper snapper there is a thing now called spinning. you can autopilot
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First, for basic tools I would recommend Woj (find him here on GFY). His tools work great and his support is top notch.

As for automating vs. handcrafting I have found, for me and my 86+paysites, determining what tasks require the most creative attention and which ones are more basic is key. In other words, the more 'artistic' or creative a task (picking domain names, choosing thumbs, cropping, editing preview videos, etc) the more I do it myself or hand it over to a trusted employee. You can't (and shouldn't) do everything yourself so just do those things that stick to your original vision. No one else knows your vision better than you.
great advice and yes cropping images by hand helps so much esp if you took the picture yourself. You know the most important part of every image cause you took the picture.

These days the more time and effort you put into your sites the better chance you will make money. It's not 2004 anymore where you just threw images in a gallery and posted it to nngalleries and watched 4-6 sales come right away.

I still make a few bucks as an affiliate but sadly with my other adult online part time job it doesn't leave the time I wish I had.
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OMG..ok I just told him..
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Putting your heart and true knowledge into something, usually works and is also seen by the customer. Being genuine!

However, at certain points, the workload becomes so large, that you have to get help in doing few things and quality will suffer, since an employee will amlmost never reach your own quality level. Then the question becomes, where is the breaking point? Will an employee add enough sales to not only pay for himself but also extra revenue on top or is it better to stay a one-man-show and do it all by yourself?

If successful, I can also see why you'd want a day manager to run things for you and thereby freeing up your own time for other things.
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Old 10-31-2017, 11:38 AM   #13
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Putting your heart and true knowledge into something, usually works and is also seen by the customer. Being genuine!

However, at certain points, the workload becomes so large, that you have to get help in doing few things and quality will suffer, since an employee will amlmost never reach your own quality level. Then the question becomes, where is the breaking point? Will an employee add enough sales to not only pay for himself but also extra revenue on top or is it better to stay a one-man-show and do it all by yourself?

If successful, I can also see why you'd want a day manager to run things for you and thereby freeing up your own time for other things.
I have come to love the one man show. By doing it myself I am able to double and triple check my work to make sure everything is working properly. I do make mistakes, occasionally I have a broken link, but I usually find these mistakes as I am doing the work... and if not I find them within a day or so because I am constantly clicking through my sites.

For me, learning CSS3, HTML5, and PHP, then combining those skills into a universal PHP template system that I designed to match my needs and my content has conquered the need for employees or independent contractors. And every day I am trimming tasks off my list with new PHP scripting and automation. I mention these things in the hopes that maybe someone who feels intimidated by some of the skills that a lot of us pay for, might take on the challenge of learning them and saving some moolah.

The quickest way to more profit is by cutting costs
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Old 11-01-2017, 07:14 AM   #14
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Always handcrafting here. Some auto ...mostly handcrafting. I prefer to be in charge, and as a result, I find that I enjoy my job a lot more too. Lot's of extra work though ...and well worth it too, since the sales continue to flow in very nicely.
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