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Old 09-21-2017, 12:08 PM   #101
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Then start act like one, be a man and support your German women for ones, but yea you don't give a fuck. You support foreign men from middle east the luxury to rape your own people's women, you disgrace of a man...
How long have you lived in Germany? Fair question...
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Old 09-21-2017, 02:26 PM   #102
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Thommy, here are the numbers. Is BBC good enough for you?

Migrant crisis: Migration to Europe explained in seven charts - BBC News

2015: 1.3 million


Keep in mind these are the OFFICIAL RECORDED numbers, which of course leaves out hundreds of thousands, if not millions, illegals.

2016: over 1.2 million
File:Asylum applications (non-EU) in the EU-28 Member States, 2006–2016 (thousands) YB17.png - Statistics Explained

Is this official Eurostat site a good enough source for you?

And once again, these are OFFICIALLY RECORDED ASYLUM APPLICATIONS, so you can imagine the massive number of ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS they don't count on these charts. If you can use logic the real numbers since the mess in Syria are probably 4 to 5 MILLION, if not more. Not even counting the 3 MILLION who are in Turkey right now!

There. I wonder what your excuse will be this time.
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Old 09-21-2017, 02:29 PM   #103
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Amazing how people still think ILEGAL migrants are ok and have right to go where they wish etc.

And yes refugee's are meant to go to the first "safe" country. Which they don't. They usually manage to skip 15 countries to get to their country of choice (and benefits).
ok i will give you a short explanation about economy - and that does NOT MEAN that i am a supporter of illegal immigration (I don´t know where I wrote something what makes you think that).

but your fucking problem is the same problem as paul have. you guys ARE fake news and you know why? because you do not have the smallest clue about economy and you find an easy explanation of a very complex topic. than you find others with no clue and you give them your easy solution and because NONE of you have a clue of that you believe in the easy but wrong solution.

1. all your arguments are finally financial arguments but to UNDETSTAND i.e why US and other countries have an export deficit or import surplus you need to understand how economy works.

the first argument why that have happend to USA was because USA have heating up the local market by making more depts and pushed it to the local economy.

that was leading to the fact that the US local economy has recovered faster than the rest of the world. with other words the LOCAL market was already strong while the international markets still was suffering.
you can not sell to international markets when they do not have money. but if you try to balance it with local markets it automaticly leads to more imports and less exports.

2. you guys have the fucking stupid idea to destroy the glabal market - that means you destroy USA because without exports USA can not survive. you would be on the level of somalia within 5 years.

3. the MOST imports to USA are imports which are used for further processing - with other words 70% of all parts of US-cars (USA´s biggest export industry) are made with imported parts. if these parts would not be imported from other countries there would NOT BE a US car industry any more.

4. if these parts are made in china or india, the US car industry doe not only pay the worker there, they pay for the boss of this company too and they pay for the delivering.
with other words: if you bring ONLY the indian worker to USA this company can safe a lot of costs make more profit and could pay the american works even a better salary.
and this (legal or illegal low paid) worker would spend a big part of what he makes in USA and with his spend he saves even more jobs.

means: importing is not cheaper and will not bring the money back in the own country by people who spend it there.

5. your idea (and pauls) is to get rid of all that. USA car industry should produce with high paid US workers. but they will produce cars what are not to sell because of their price. remember: US cars are exportet that much because they are MUCH cheaper as i.e. a German car.

means: at the end of your idea there is no car factory left what can give people work.

and on top of that there will also not be a buyer of machines outside anymore because if they can not sell products to another country they do not have the need to buy the machines to produce them.

6. a country lives at the end of what it produces and sells. if the renter of a cheap house is an illegal mexican worker he does MORE for the economy as someone who makes so much money that he can not even spend it. and he does not even have to pay tax for that because the tax he pays indirectly by his consumption.

again - that does NOT MEAN that i support illegal immigrants but for a very other reason as the economic reason.
i know that these people would be always illegal and the next step is the step to be criminal.

NOBODY not even Merkel did ever want illegals in Germany. What happend to Germany was simply the fact that it was one of the few countries who had to handle a mass of immigrants and refugees at once because there was no solidarity in the european union.
at the end of the day only 4 or 5 countries did what all EU countries and non EU countries have signed for.

if you blame Merkel for stand on her word you are blaming the wrong person.
the unreliable one sits in washington and talks bullshit in blue one day and on the next day he changes the color but it is still bullshit.

what i can see from you guys is that you do not have the smalles education in economy because if that would be the case you would see this things different.
so stop to believe in people who are proven nocluers and believe in the existance of experts. if expert knowledge is not wanted anymore we can give the world right away in the hands of dumbs who believe in what they can understand but not in the truth.
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Old 09-21-2017, 02:37 PM   #104
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Thommy, here are the numbers. Is BBC good enough for you?

Migrant crisis: Migration to Europe explained in seven charts - BBC News

2015: 1.3 million


Keep in mind these are the OFFICIAL RECORDED numbers, which of course leaves out hundreds of thousands, in not millions since 2015, illegals.

2016: over 1.2 million
File:Asylum applications (non-EU) in the EU-28 Member States, 2006–2016 (thousands) YB17.png - Statistics Explained

Is this official Eurostat site a good enough source for you?

And once again, these are OFFICIALLY RECORDED ASYLUM APPLICATIONS, so you can imagine the massive number of ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS they don't count on these charts. If you can use logic the real numbers since the mess in Syria are probably 4 to 5 MILLION, if not more. Not even counting the 3 MILLION who are in Turkey right now!

There. I wonder what your excuse will be this time.
what else did i say ?????

if you would sometimes READ what i write and not only searching for shit arguments you would find this:

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the "millions" (1.260.000) in 2016 was the number of ALL refugees over ALL EUROPE (743 mio citizens) and 50% of them are already delivered back because they did not have the refugee rights.
but as no one can see that on their nose if they are or not, it needs time to prove the facts because it is a HUMAN RIGHT !!!
and if you use your glasses you would see on the graphic in very small letter that these are people who ASK for asylum what means

a. this is not the number who are approved for asylum (50% of them are already back)
b. these are NOT immigrants
c. this number of 1,2 million stands against a number of nearly 750 million citizens. if you want to tell me that 750 million are unable to help 1,2 million i do not want to be one of your friends or having an accident when only you are around to help me.

i am really sorry that you are unable to look in the mirror and understand that a brainwashed is looking out there.
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Old 09-21-2017, 02:37 PM   #105
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How much tax do you pay in Germany/EU or somewhere else?
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i am pretty sure that i pay more tax per month as you earn in a year.
Nobody cares how much you make...

You need a couple more rape cases:

1)

39 year old Syrian (Came to Ger February 2016 from Aleppo) convicted for raping a 23 year old passed out woman. Sentenced to 3 years in prison.

Mann (39) vergewaltigt bewusstlose Frau (23) â?? dreieinhalb Jahre Haft | Freie Zeiten

2nd Source:

Asylbewerber vergewaltigt Frau in Nebra | Naumburger Tageblatt/MZ

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21 year old raped outside a supermarket last Sunday evening in Mannheim. Perpetrator had an Arabic look.

Mannheim: Unbekannter vergeht sich an 21-Jähriger | Freie Zeiten

Police report

POL-MA: Mannheim-Neckarstadt: Unbekannter vergeht sich an Frau - Polizei sucht Zeugen | Pressemitteilung Polizeipräsidium Mannheim

This was the second case in proximity of Mannheim in just a few days.
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Old 09-21-2017, 02:44 PM   #106
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I thought that the behavior of FC Koln fans in London was very interesting.

It was like the shackles had been removed, by leaving the country in such large numbers. A kind of 'payback' for New Years Eve, in a city (London) where multiculturalism is rampant.

Maybe real Germans need to leave the country, and return at a later time. They'll rise again, I'm sure of it

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Old 09-21-2017, 02:49 PM   #107
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Nobody cares how much you make...
i answered a question asshole

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You need a couple more rape cases:

1)

39 year old Syrian (Came to Ger February 2016 from Aleppo) convicted for raping a 23 year old passed out woman. Sentenced to 3 years in prison.

Mann (39) vergewaltigt bewusstlose Frau (23) â?? dreieinhalb Jahre Haft | Freie Zeiten

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Asylbewerber vergewaltigt Frau in Nebra | Naumburger Tageblatt/MZ

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21 year old raped outside a supermarket last Sunday evening in Mannheim. Perpetrator had an Arabic look.

Mannheim: Unbekannter vergeht sich an 21-Jähriger | Freie Zeiten

Police report

POL-MA: Mannheim-Neckarstadt: Unbekannter vergeht sich an Frau - Polizei sucht Zeugen | Pressemitteilung Polizeipräsidium Mannheim

This was the second case in proximity of Mannheim in just a few days.
you know HOW you would find MUCH more rape cases?
if you would not limit your searches on refugees or foreign people.

and if you would not only use right oriented media.

btw. there where also a few cases last month where dutch guys and us citizens have been involved in such cases. what shall we do with them?
and what shall we do with the german right radicals who are the group with the BIGGEST increase of crimes?

so WHY dod ou not explain us what the reason for THIS HERE IS ??????
or do you not want to speak about the shit in your own pants?
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Old 09-21-2017, 02:52 PM   #108
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what else did i say ?????

if you would sometimes READ what i write and not only searching for shit arguments you would find this:

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the "millions" (1.260.000in 2016 was the number of ALL refugees over ALL EUROPE (743 mio citizens) and 50of them are already delivered back because they did not have the refugee rights.
but as no one can see that on their nose if they are or notit needs time to prove the facts because it is a HUMAN RIGHT !!! 
and if you use your glasses you would see on the graphic in very small letter that these are people who ASK for asylum what means

a. this is not the number who are approved for asylum (50% of them are already back)
b. these are NOT immigrants
c. this number of 1,2 million stands against a number of nearly 750 million citizens. if you want to tell me that 750 million are unable to help 1,2 million i do not want to be one of your friends or having an accident when only you are around to help me.

i am really sorry that you are unable to look in the mirror and understand that a brainwashed is looking out there.
1. 750 million? These stats are about the EU and last i checked the EU has 510 million people, and that is still including the UK.


2. Asylum applicants from outside the EU are not immigrants? What are they then?

3. Since Syria the real numbers are close to 5 million and counting. Add in 3 million from Turkey, because when the EU crosses Erdogan, he said he will not stop them anymore from travelling further into Europe. And you can count on it that will happen, so we have as of now 8 million total. And counting.

4. 8 million is HALF OF THE NETHERLANDS and WHOLE OF SWITZERLAND but noooo it's not that much if you look at 510 million, it is only 1,5% right? Let's keep those borders open for the next decades and let everyone from northern and central africa come here and spread their friendly culture. It's gonna be Utopia!

Everyone agrees, leftwing and rightwing and in between, that this is a migrant CRISIS. It isn't being called a crisis for nothing, you idiot.
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NOBODY not even Merkel did ever want illegals in Germany. What happend to Germany was simply the fact that it was one of the few countries who had to handle a mass of immigrants and refugees at once because there was no solidarity in the european union.
at the end of the day only 4 or 5 countries did what all EU countries and non EU countries have signed for.

if you blame Merkel for stand on her word you are blaming the wrong person.
the unreliable one sits in washington and talks bullshit in blue one day and on the next day he changes the color but it is still bullshit.
Merkel is a weak leader not even working in the interest of Europe anymore.

Apart from solidarity, which at this point is overdue, Germany didn't have to handle anything but offer some strong solutions how to house refugees without letting them into Europe. I'm all up for quota refugees though, you see my solidarity right there. With true weak leadership we now have criminals running around in Europe and terrorists without knowing who they are or what they do. When they do get asylum, they can move into any EU country as they please. Liberal/left stupidity...

The solidarity you speak of is fine when it comes to real refugees, not rapefugees and luxury immigrants, which a majority of the immigrants from middle east and africa is.

Massive camps in North Africa - Middle East would solve all this and funded by the EU. The financial power to get something of that magnitude going is just a ballpark compared of the consequences of letting these incompatible refugees into Europe.
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I'm still waiting for the first Islamic Party getting into the election of one of Europe's democratic countries. When that's happening, you can see for yourself how fragile our democracies truly are. Not saying one will win majority in the near future but interesting and scary how things can change very quickly considering how much more Muslims are reproducing compared with natives.

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1. 750 million? These stats are about the EU and last i checked the EU has 510 million people, and that is still including the UK.
you are correct - i took the numbers of europe and not the EU - but 520 million is still a big number.

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2. Asylum applicants from outside the EU are not immigrants? What are they then?

If they are recognized as refugees under the Geneva Convention or as persons entitled to asylum under the Basic Law, they are granted a three-year residence permit. They must be threatened by the persecution because of their race, nationality, political conviction, or belonging to a particular social group by the state or whomever.

If, on the other hand, they are recognized as so-called "subsidiary rights" because they are threatened with "serious harm" such as the death penalty, torture or arbitrary violence in a civil war, they only receive a one-year residence permit which can be extended by two years. The same is true of those who are merely given the right to live on the streets, because they are threatened with a real danger to life, limb or freedom during deportation.

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3. Since Syria the real numbers are close to 5 million and counting. Add in 3 million from Turkey, because when the EU crosses Erdogan, he said he will not stop them anymore from travelling further into Europe. And you can count on it that will happen, so we have as of now 8 million total. And counting. [/QUOTE]

we have millions of turks in Germany since the late 60s.
most of their children can not even speak turkish anymore and they are fully integrated Germans. so nothing what we did not already handle

but your argument sghould not be erdogan - it should be WHAT HE IS. he is a right radical nationalist - so a person with the same mind as you what caused all those problems.

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4. 8 million is HALF OF THE NETHERLANDS and WHOLE OF SWITZERLAND but noooo it's not that much if you look at 510 million, it is only 1,5% right? Let's keep those borders open for the next decades and let everyone from northern and central africa come here and spread their friendly culture. It's gonna be Utopia!
well you can calculate also that the whole 7 other billion come to the netherlands but that will not happen because til thatis the case YOU will be the refugees because your country is under water.

but the reality is a bit different from what you get from your fake sources:

Statistics - Netherlands | Asylum Information Database

so your millions are again only less than 30.000 - but you do not seem to care the one or other zero more when it is in favor of you strange political ideology.

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Everyone agrees, leftwing and rightwing and in between, that this is a migrant CRISIS. It isn't being called a crisis for nothing, you idiot.
the real crisis on that was caused because the ones who caused it did not help to resolve it. much more refugees came to only a few countries what where willing to help.

and the second crisis is that this again caused a crisis in human empathy as we can perfectly see on you.

we could easily handle this problem when we would work on stopping the reasons why this people have to leave their countries.

but again: the ones who caused it where same right wing, nationalist, egoistic idiots as all you trump supporter here with no idea and no interest what happens outside of the own
house door.
all you think is ME ME ME - and than you wonder why others start to think the same.

you guys are the desease but you will never accept or understand it.
hitler and the nazis did also not understand it.
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Merkel is a weak leader not even working in the interest of Europe anymore.
lool - you are sooo fucking miserable informed.
I do not even want to start to answer on that dumbshit.

you might not even think that a leader of a country have to be the leader FOR all citizens and not only for their voters.

merkel got the biggest opposition from her own party but she acted as a leader for ALL germans.

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Apart from solidarity, which at this point is overdue, Germany didn't have to handle anything but offer some strong solutions how to house refugees without letting them into Europe.
again nonsense - Germany did not let them into Europe - look at the map where Germany is in Europe and tell me HOW they could do that?
you are not only political a dumb you should also take a few lessons in geography.

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I'm all up for quota refugees though, you see my solidarity right there.
i really hope that you get REALLY sick one day and when you come to the hospital you are the number one AFTER reaching the quota. let´s see how you think than about it.

HOW CAN YOU QUOTE TRAGEDY you dumbfuck?

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With true weak leadership we now have criminals running around in Europe and terrorists without knowing who they are or what they do. When they do get asylum, they can move into any EU country as they please. Liberal/left stupidity...

The solidarity you speak of is fine when it comes to real refugees, not rapefugees and luxury immigrants, which a majority of the immigrants from middle east and africa is.[/QUOTE]

i think they will pay you millions to have you and see in the moment when they arrive that they are criminal or liars. you really should ask for this job you genius because I am pretty sure that with this mind you are not able to do any other job somehow good.

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Massive camps in North Africa - Middle East would solve all this and funded by the EU. The financial power to get something of that magnitude going is just a ballpark compared of the consequences of letting these incompatible refugees into Europe.
hahaha - and they should build them WHEN ????
50 yers ago ? 5 years ago ? 1 week before they came?

do you have a single clue how complicated the diplomatic process is to create such a camp in another country where you do not even know who is the leader at this moment?

you are full of fucking illusions and you think all others are too stupid to see the nearest things.
do you think they are all sleeping the whole day? or do you really think that YOU would be doing better?

always the same: no plan no clue but a big mouth.
you are the watcher on the cheapest seat of the football field and think you are the best player if they would let you play.

YOU ARE A CLOWN !!!
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Draco was on vacation in Germany for a few weeks, knows Germany better than Germans LOL
Oh wait, didn't you say you were on vacation in egypt so you knew whether or not Christians were being persecuted?
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i am pretty sure that i pay more tax per month as you earn in a year.
How much of it goes into Germany? That's what he asked.
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ok i will give you a short explanation about economy - and that does NOT MEAN that i am a supporter of illegal immigration (I don´t know where I wrote something what makes you think that).

but your fucking problem is the same problem as paul have. you guys ARE fake news and you know why? because you do not have the smallest clue about economy and you find an easy explanation of a very complex topic. than you find others with no clue and you give them your easy solution and because NONE of you have a clue of that you believe in the easy but wrong solution.
Then give us the truth backed up with real stats. not an opinion of a falsification of the facts. The question about illegal migrants was typical of you. You replied to it with the asylum seekers who didn't register in the first safe country they arrived in.
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The Arabs made a deal with the British during the First World War. It was that they rule a United Middle East after the Ottomans were beaten. The Ottomans being Muslim and running the Middle East with horrible atrocities the committed, including genocide.

The British rightly broke that promise. Can you imagine the Middle East ruled by the Saudi Royal Family?

They broke up the Middle East with a ruler, separating countries in straight lines. That still exists today, the Muslims weren't able to throw out the British divides and apply ones that suited them better.

Without the Western Alliance fighting in Muslim countries, the Middle East would be ruled by ISIS, Al Queda, Al-Shabaab, Hezbollah, Hamas, Taliban and a few more terrorist groups. Unless they're run like Iran or Saudi.
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Oh wait, didn't you say you were on vacation in egypt so you knew whether or not Christians were being persecuted?
there are like 11+ million coptic christians in egypt...some estimates go up to 15...if you take in to account that 10.000 christians get killed in the USA every year just by shooting, christians are safer in egypt than they are in the USA...fact...

now I do not pretend that I know egyptian politics and media like drax does...I am basing my personal observation of factual reality and actual numbers that are not up for discussion...

in fact, christians are safer pretty much anywhere than in the USA...

drax claims to know about german media better than germans based on a 4 week vacation

@drax how long have you lived in germany? <----- bet he avoids answering again LOL
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How much of it goes into Germany? That's what he asked.
i don´t know what my tax have to do with this topic. it does not matter where i pay taxes in a globalized world because in a global trade market the money runs from country to country.

you still do not undestand how worlwide economy works and this is why you should shut your mouth on that topic because i did never read that much nonsense as you write here.

even when i do not pay personal tax in germany (what i do not have to do because i do not live there any more) i bring a lot of money into the german economy with what i do and that produces taxes IN germany.

if you guys would not be that afrid to using your brain you would barley understand that a bit better - but you use your brain only for finding excuses and wrong numbers and interpretations for your strange ideologies.

you would be perfect victims for scientology and you should praise your gods that you can never meet jim jones who would bring you to jonestown and brainwashs you til you proudly drin the poison.

a real world can not work with rules designed by reality rejectors.
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lool - you are sooo fucking miserable informed.
I do not even want to start to answer on that dumbshit.

you might not even think that a leader of a country have to be the leader FOR all citizens and not only for their voters.

merkel got the biggest opposition from her own party but she acted as a leader for ALL germans.



again nonsense - Germany did not let them into Europe - look at the map where Germany is in Europe and tell me HOW they could do that?
you are not only political a dumb you should also take a few lessons in geography.



i really hope that you get REALLY sick one day and when you come to the hospital you are the number one AFTER reaching the quota. let´s see how you think than about it.

HOW CAN YOU QUOTE TRAGEDY you dumbfuck?

With true weak leadership we now have criminals running around in Europe and terrorists without knowing who they are or what they do. When they do get asylum, they can move into any EU country as they please. Liberal/left stupidity...

The solidarity you speak of is fine when it comes to real refugees, not rapefugees and luxury immigrants, which a majority of the immigrants from middle east and africa is.[/QUOTE]

i think they will pay you millions to have you and see in the moment when they arrive that they are criminal or liars. you really should ask for this job you genius because I am pretty sure that with this mind you are not able to do any other job somehow good.



hahaha - and they should build them WHEN ????
50 yers ago ? 5 years ago ? 1 week before they came?

do you have a single clue how complicated the diplomatic process is to create such a camp in another country where you do not even know who is the leader at this moment?

you are full of fucking illusions and you think all others are too stupid to see the nearest things.
do you think they are all sleeping the whole day? or do you really think that YOU would be doing better?

always the same: no plan no clue but a big mouth.
you are the watcher on the cheapest seat of the football field and think you are the best player if they would let you play.

YOU ARE A CLOWN !!![/QUOTE]

Don't get emotional on me now Thommy Goebbels. I don't pretend to be anything but a concerned citizen.

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i really hope that you get REALLY sick one day and when you come to the hospital you are the number one AFTER reaching the quota. let´s see how you think than about it.

HOW CAN YOU QUOTE TRAGEDY you dumbfuck?
Why? Doesn't healthcare work in rich European countries any more? I wouldn't know, I have private insurance...

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hahaha - and they should build them WHEN ????
50 yers ago ? 5 years ago ? 1 week before they came?

do you have a single clue how complicated the diplomatic process is to create such a camp in another country where you do not even know who is the leader at this moment?
Money talks and always will, it's not difficult to help people outside Europe if the WILL power is there. Help organizations have been quick during the whole immigration crisis. Problem with you is that you don't want to see any other solutions for refugees than having them into EUROPE. Maybe you even make money on refugees, you're quite the hardcore fan of immigrants but what do I know...

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again nonsense - Germany did not let them into Europe - look at the map where Germany is in Europe and tell me HOW they could do that?
you are not only political a dumb you should also take a few lessons in geography.
You started taking political advice from Natalie?...

Obviously majority of EU decided this together, did you really think Greece, Italy and Spain been taking decisions on their own?

You don't know much Thommy but act like you do, your one sided view on the political system is unhealthy and for you it's only gonna get worse, European right wing parties booming cause EU is failing.

You support terrorists and rapists, be proud of yourself.
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You support terrorists and rapists, be proud of yourself.
you did not answer only ONE of my arguments - but this is why it does not make sense to discuss with people who put criminal complaints against the white elephants on the streets and call themselves concerned citizens.

i ask my self if you ever fly in a plane and how you tell them how to build this plane because you are concerned they did not do it right.
this is exactly what you are doing here - you fight about something what you do not understand. if you do that in a plane and you would be the only passenger i would not care - but unfortunately it would not be your seat row only what crashes.

so don´t touch the engine of a plane where a lot of smarter people than you have a seat.
go to find an own nazi planet and do what you want there.
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I actually did twice, but you got your head too far up your ass to see anything. No point discussing anything with you if you can't read simple English.

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i don´t know what my tax have to do with this topic. it does not matter where i pay taxes in a globalized world because in a global trade market the money runs from country to country.

you still do not undestand how worlwide economy works and this is why you should shut your mouth on that topic because i did never read that much nonsense as you write here.

even when i do not pay personal tax in germany (what i do not have to do because i do not live there any more) i bring a lot of money into the german economy with what i do and that produces taxes IN germany.

if you guys would not be that afrid to using your brain you would barley understand that a bit better - but you use your brain only for finding excuses and wrong numbers and interpretations for your strange ideologies.

you would be perfect victims for scientology and you should praise your gods that you can never meet jim jones who would bring you to jonestown and brainwashs you til you proudly drin the poison.

a real world can not work with rules designed by reality rejectors.
Taxes pay the bills it takes to run a modern country. If you're in a country with a National Debt you're not paying enough taxes. If that country took in 100,000 migrants who aren't truly contributing. you need to pay more in taxes.

Your stance is that mass migration is good. I can prove it's not and have done many times. Are you paying enough taxes to make up for the costs of your policies?

Now, do you understand why the taxes you pay are important to this debate?

I give you well thought out logical arguments, like why people in the ME and Africa are suffering. You don't have an answer.
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you did not answer only ONE of my arguments - but this is why it does not make sense to discuss with people who put criminal complaints against the white elephants on the streets and call themselves concerned citizens.

i ask my self if you ever fly in a plane and how you tell them how to build this plane because you are concerned they did not do it right.
this is exactly what you are doing here - you fight about something what you do not understand. if you do that in a plane and you would be the only passenger i would not care - but unfortunately it would not be your seat row only what crashes.

so don´t touch the engine of a plane where a lot of smarter people than you have a seat.
go to find an own nazi planet and do what you want there.
You do not answer my arguments. Let's start with the extra taxes required to pay the bills of mass migration. Then we can move onto why Islamist countries have been killing each other from before they were Islamist countries and still are.

Then we can look at Africa where millions live in poverty and a few make billions. Like Mugabe who took a thriving well-run country and fucked it up, deliberately. He's one of many, I could list them for you, all run by people of their own race. Africa under European rule was the source of $100 of billions a year. Now many African countries rely on aid. Why?
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Germany's second main party is a clone of the Merkel's party. The problem is that while most of the EU is doing badly Germany is doing well, not much of a United Europe there. When Germans are landed with the bills for the migrants and the failing EU States, the tables will turn.

Should the EU give the UK a bad deal, it will hit German manufacturing like a brick.

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My conclusion is simple. Thommy made good money from Germany during the time that the minimum wage was 850 Euro and the elderly got deported to Poland, Chech and other cheap countries because they couldn't afford to live in Germany anymore.

Merkel and Thommy are the same; Deutschland Uber Alles. Not realizing (nor caring) that the whole EU bubble went bad for a lot of countries and that there are no options for those countries to get rid of the Giants debts, while Germany is filling his pockets.

Cause of the position of Merkels party in Europe, she can dictated Europe what to do. So with the mentality of Thommmy and the Merkels it would be best for some countries to take care of themselves. Greece would have been recovered already if they could take the future in their own hands. But they suffer from Germany and the Immigrants. Merkel inviting everybody and realizing that most had to enter another EU country first, so they won't have the problems. They created a paper wall for immigration. And forcing every EU country to take people in, but most don't want that. Cause Germany has the biggest influence in the EU, and only germans can vote in Germany, it is like it has Always been; Deutschland Uber Alles.

I wanted to vote for Farrage, wasn't even possible in my country. That way we will Always circle around the same parties that are leading the eu. Cause if i have to choose an anti EU party in Holland there are only very few options.. Like Wilders or the socialist communist.

The UK understood that and choose the Brexit. making Germany and France more powerfull. Many times Holland supported the English vision and laws they wanted. Now that friend will be gone.

And than we must be happy Merkwl is ruling Germany? Don't think so. And that is why a lot of people don't care if the nazi's are growing in Germany. That is the only way to beat the system. There are no alternatives to vote for, just like in Holland. When the system is broken, people will vote for other parties i hope. The fastest growing party in Holland is against the Euro.
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By my understanding you also left due to all the paperwork in germany and it was much easier to start and run a company in Czech.
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By my understanding you also left due to all the paperwork in germany and it was much easier to start and run a company in Czech.
rather Czech girls were much cheaper to shoot content with......
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so he moved for the cheap whores. Noble
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You do not answer my arguments. Let's start with the extra taxes required to pay the bills of mass migration. Then we can move onto why Islamist countries have been killing each other from before they were Islamist countries and still are.
what EXTRA taxes?
do you know that Germany have since years a budgetary surplus ???

19 billion and 20 billion just in the past 2 years.

how can that be with all this fucking costs they have?

go and find me a country which operates a policy of foreclosure according to your desire that can show such numbers.

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Then we can look at Africa where millions live in poverty and a few make billions. Like Mugabe who took a thriving well-run country and fucked it up, deliberately. He's one of many, I could list them for you, all run by people of their own race. Africa under European rule was the source of $100 of billions a year. Now many African countries rely on aid. Why?
why ? because they got the power but not the education.
it is ALL a question of education - but unfortunately we can not educate them in their own countries because of fuckers like mugabe.

and as soon the western world starts to intervene and kills the "bad boys" like saddam or gaddhafi it becomes worse.
because what is changed there than is that a big corruption is changing into a giant corruption.

you try to explain here you want to do something for the poors abut you do the opposite. you are a tool in the hands of all those corrupt politicians you hate so much. and you do not even realize that.

and when it comes to the point where some politician is doing something what at least make sense you complain again.
that shows me that you do not have the smallest clue of what you are talking abot. because IF you would HAVE arguments you would be able to show us WHERE ON THIS FUCKING PLANET your ideas are working.

you know when you want to change things you have to have not only a better idea or bigger vision than others - you need a PROVE and you have non and you will NEVER have one because you are living in wonderland - far far away from reality.
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My conclusion is simple. Thommy made good money from Germany during the time that the minimum wage was 850 Euro and the elderly got deported to Poland, Chech and other cheap countries because they couldn't afford to live in Germany anymore.
nice dream you have. but no i made money i ALL my life and wherever i lived.
and you know why? because i am ready for the future when you are still fighting if there is one and how it will be.

and if there is one thing i am well know for that it is the fact that i never did a mistake in my forecasts.

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Merkel and Thommy are the same; Deutschland Uber Alles.
now you see that you did not understand a thing about me or german or merkel.

i am the EXTREME opposite of "deutschland deutschland übver alles" - YOU ARE the supporter of one who gives a shit on other nations by declearing AMERICA FIRST
(what IS the english translation for "Deutschland Deutschland über alles")

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Not realizing (nor caring) that the whole EU bubble went bad for a lot of countries and that there are no options for those countries to get rid of the Giants debts, while Germany is filling his pockets.
this countries you are talking about would be bankrupt already if Germany would not help.

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Greece would have been recovered already if they could take the future in their own hands. But they suffer from Germany and the Immigrants.
next bullshit. you do not even seem to know that the most of the greece depth to the european union is secured by german guarantees.
so if Greece would fail (what they not do because they was forced to change their fucking corruption there) Germany would be the biggest looser.

out of that - and that again tells me that you do not have the smallest clue of economy - the greece problem was one of the main reason that interests went down.

means: EVERY COUNTRY with depth had the chance to pay back without paying interest anymore. greece gave europe MUCH more as it ever got from euope.


Merkel inviting everybody and realizing that most had to enter another EU country first, so they won't have the problems. They created a paper wall for immigration. And forcing every EU country to take people in, but most don't want that. Cause Germany has the biggest influence in the EU, and only germans can vote in Germany, it is like it has Always been; Deutschland Uber Alles.

I wanted to vote for Farrage, wasn't even possible in my country. That way we will Always circle around the same parties that are leading the eu. Cause if i have to choose an anti EU party in Holland there are only very few options.. Like Wilders or the socialist communist.

The UK understood that and choose the Brexit. making Germany and France more powerfull. Many times Holland supported the English vision and laws they wanted. Now that friend will be gone.

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It is great when you live in Thailand, where you pay no income tax, and maybe 5% - 12,5% company tax in an EU country. I would do that also, but that is how Thommy thinks, Thommy Uber Alles.
i can live wherever i want that will not move my companies anywhere.
I have more companies as you have fingers but sure i use the legal options to savae tax wherever I can. Why I should do something else?
I pay anyway every year much more tax than 100 losers like you pay in their complete life.

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Even Stefan left Germany cause the tax system is crazy there. And than we must be happy Merkwl is ruling Germany? Don't think so. And that is why a lot of people don't care if the nazi's are growing in Germany. That is the only way to beat the system. There are no alternatives to vote for, just like in Holland. When the system is broken, people will vote for other parties i hope. The fastest growing party in Holland is against the Euro.
you should really not open your fake news mouth talking about things you can not even estimate.
you do not know a fuck about stefan or me and you spread here fake news stories - that explains already all about what you are and who you are and how important the truth is for you.

brainwashed - under educated, jealous and mad that you did never made it to any valuable human level.
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what EXTRA taxes?
do you know that Germany have since years a budgetary surplus ???

19 billion and 20 billion just in the past 2 years.

how can that be with all this fucking costs they have?
You don't live in Germany. So that's a bullshit answer. Germany's debt is 68.3% of GDP (2016). It will rise when the UK leave the EU and the costs of mass migration land on the desks of Germany. Spain's is 99.4% of GDP (2016). So as I said you should be paying more in taxes to clear the debt and fund your liberal policies. It's good to see you not supporting the idea of a Euro Alliance with all the debt rolled into one.

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why ? because they got the power but not the education.
it is ALL a question of education - but unfortunately we can not educate them in their own countries because of fuckers like mugabe.
So youi agree their biggest problem is their own leaders. And you think we can sort it out.

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and as soon the western world starts to intervene and kills the "bad boys" like saddam or gaddhafi it becomes worse.
because what is changed there than is that a big corruption is changing into a giant corruption.
And Mugabe. Make up your mind we either leave them to kill each other or we intervene and try to teach them to be Western.

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you try to explain here you want to do something for the poors abut you do the opposite. you are a tool in the hands of all those corrupt politicians you hate so much. and you do not even realize that.
Why am I responsible for Mugabe, Idi Amin, Saddam, Ghadafi, etc.

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and when it comes to the point where some politician is doing something what at least make sense you complain again.
that shows me that you do not have the smallest clue of what you are talking abot. because IF you would HAVE arguments you would be able to show us WHERE ON THIS FUCKING PLANET your ideas are working.
True. I believe the bset action isd to do nothing and let the less modern Nations sort their own problems. You want us to do nothing, then complain we do more. Make up your mind. That is if you have one.

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I don't want to change things outside the West, except less imports from countries who undercut our own workers. Third World countries should be allowed to look after their own problems. If that means they keep killing each other, then let it be.

If you think all it will take is for the West to open schools in the Third World to solve their problems. You're insane with no grasp of the true facts. Plus who will pay the costs?
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this countries you are talking about would be bankrupt already if Germany would not help.

next bullshit. you do not even seem to know that the most of the greece depth to the european union is secured by german guarantees.
so if Greece would fail (what they not do because they was forced to change their fucking corruption there) Germany would be the biggest looser.

out of that - and that again tells me that you do not have the smallest clue of economy - the greece problem was one of the main reason that interests went down.

means: EVERY COUNTRY with depth had the chance to pay back without paying interest anymore. greece gave europe MUCH more as it ever got from euope.
Here you clearly show your ignorance. The reason for the debt of the Euro states is because the EU created the Euro, gave it to countries without the ability to manage the currency and allowed them to borrow way beyond their means to repay. Greece was at 100% 1995 to 2007, then skyrocketed to 179.0% of GDP (2016). Greece adopted the Euro in January 2002. See the picture? It's having to endure massive cuts to keep it at 179%. The only option has is to leave the Euro and go back to the Drachma and default. But that would start a collapse of the Euro.


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Merkel inviting everybody and realizing that most had to enter another EU country first, so they won't have the problems. They created a paper wall for immigration. And forcing every EU country to take people in, but most don't want that. Cause Germany has the biggest influence in the EU, and only germans can vote in Germany, it is like it has Always been; Deutschland Uber Alles.

I wanted to vote for Farrage, wasn't even possible in my country. That way we will Always circle around the same parties that are leading the eu. Cause if i have to choose an anti EU party in Holland there are only very few options.. Like Wilders or the socialist communist.

The UK understood that and choose the Brexit. making Germany and France more powerfull. Many times Holland supported the English vision and laws they wanted. Now that friend will be gone.
Now you're talking sense. Merkel invited the migrants without any consultation with Germans. Germany and France will be more powerful in a weaker EU afteer the UK leave. So not very good for the other EU countries.



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I have more companies as you have fingers but sure i use the legal options to savae tax wherever I can. Why I should do something else?
I pay anyway every year much more tax than 100 losers like you pay in their complete life.
Soyou say. What country do you pay taxes in, is it a country you live in?
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Here you clearly show your ignorance. The reason for the debt of the Euro states is because the EU created the Euro, gave it to countries without the ability to manage the currency and allowed them to borrow way beyond their means to repay. Greece was at 100% 1995 to 2007, then skyrocketed to 179.0% of GDP (2016). Greece adopted the Euro in January 2002. See the picture? It's having to endure massive cuts to keep it at 179%. The only option has is to leave the Euro and go back to the Drachma and default. But that would start a collapse of the Euro.


Now you're talking sense. Merkel invited the migrants without any consultation with Germans. Germany and France will be more powerful in a weaker EU afteer the UK leave. So not very good for the other EU countries.



Soyou say. What country do you pay taxes in, is it a country you live in?
paul i know that you are older and that it is not easy for you to understand things what you have never learned. so I tried to find an easy written article what explains you when dept to gdp is good and when it it bad.

i think this explanation is so easy written that even you should be able to understand it.

https://www.thebalance.com/what-is-t...-ratio-1978993

so if you did understand it after reading you should rethink your thought before you tell the world what is good and what is bad.

and i don´t complain you for not knowing it - i only complain you that you try to make the readers here THINK you would have skills in that.
but you should accept that you are only a ex middle class porn producer and not the economy minister of tabaluga land.
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It will rise when the UK leave the EU and the costs of mass migration land on the desks of Germany.
that was a good one again.

seems your fake news channels did not really update you about the brexit.

may don´t want a fast brexit anymore -indeed she seems not even to know IF she wants a brexit.

today she asked for 2 years more - maybe because someone explained her the content of the forecasts what will happen with britain in the next decades.

so possibly you are speculating on the space of the syrian refugees in Germany for the brexit refugees.

i really wished they would exit faster to show the rest of the world what happens when populism rules a country.
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Let's go back to the start. Merkel did say there would be "no limits" to the people she would allow into Germany. You can argue about how many would stay there, breed there, work there, leave after a while, commit crime, rape, be forced to leave, whatever. She seemed to think she could dictate which other countries in Europe she would spread the sheer volume of numbers arriving to Germany. Didn't take her long to realise the numbers were much more than she figured plus most weren't actually refugee's at all and quickly claimed the border CLOSED.

Fact is she made the most riduculous statement and call in recent times. And yet she still holds power and is about to do so further.

Who knows what next ridiculous shit she will come away with next.

Yet people talk about Donald Trump tweets ? Sheeesh...
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By my understanding you also left due to all the paperwork in germany and it was much easier to start and run a company in Czech.
And by my understanding you travel to 3rd world countries cause you like cheap hookers. But sorry, your assumption is wrong.

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rather Czech girls were much cheaper to shoot content with......
Wrong, even more expensive. But also more pretty and not ruined with silicone and tattoos.

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so he moved for the cheap whores. Noble
Nice to see your attitude towards the girls that make all of us money. Funny thing though: only people that never intend to show up at any business events post shit like you do. Cause basement Nazis like you are usually coward bitches and you don't even have half a testicle to say the same shit to anybody's face in real life.
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Let's go back to the start. Merkel did say there would be "no limits" to the people she would allow into Germany. You can argue about how many would stay there, breed there, work there, leave after a while, commit crime, rape, be forced to leave, whatever. She seemed to think she could dictate which other countries in Europe she would spread the sheer volume of numbers arriving to Germany. Didn't take her long to realise the numbers were much more than she figured plus most weren't actually refugee's at all and quickly claimed the border CLOSED.

Fact is she made the most riduculous statement and call in recent times. And yet she still holds power and is about to do so further.

Who knows what next ridiculous shit she will come away with next.

Yet people talk about Donald Trump tweets ? Sheeesh...
what would be with the first one who is "over the limit" would you take them or shall we throw them back into the sea ?

remember: these are people who are fleeing from a war...in wich inhuman school did you get your education ? in the roman arena ?

and what means "spread over europe" ????

they CAME to europe but only 2 or 3 countries have the responsibility to stand for what they signed in the geneve refugee convention.

YOUR country signed it too so first of all you are word breakers and want to blame the ones what are standing for it.

PUSSIES !!!!
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And by my understanding you travel to 3rd world countries cause you like cheap hookers. But sorry, your assumption is wrong.



Wrong, even more expensive. But also more pretty and not ruined with silicone and tattoos.



Nice to see your attitude towards the girls that make all of us money. Funny thing though: only people that never intend to show up at any business events post shit like you do. Cause basement Nazis like you are usually coward bitches and you don't even have half a testicle to say the same shit to anybody's face in real life.
i think there is no hope with this guy. he is so fucking brainwashed that he would be already a victim of scientology if he would have sufficient money for that.

people like him live like the goldfish in the glass and think that everything outside is just pure illusion - he is a great example what you can make out of weak humans if you just push on the right button and use their weakness for whatever you want.

slave pussies and trolls ! the right people to build the future !
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Well it is simple what my source is, i spoke with Stefan myself during a few shows.
But i must conclude that my braincells at least survived the shows
Looks like he wasn't a fan of Germany either.

Thommy, you are just plain wrong on so many things that i think you have a meltdown again.
Nice for you that you are so rich and pay so much tax. At leastm, when we must believe you. But I am happy i am not you. And i am happy there are not many more of you.
What a fucked up world would it be with all this gods walking around on earth.
You realy miss every sense and Thommy Uber Alles. The more i read your post, the stronger my believes are that we must stop the Euro.

Brazilian Hookers? i didn't know you had to pay there.

Damn, did i again react on a meltdown post from Thommy and lowering me a little bit to his level.
I wast just trying to ignore all the political post.

again, not a Trump or Wilders supporter. Never voted for one of them.
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Nice to see your attitude towards the girls that make all of us money. Funny thing though: only people that never intend to show up at any business events post shit like you do. Cause basement Nazis like you are usually coward bitches and you don't even have half a testicle to say the same shit to anybody's face in real life.
You really need to get a sense of humor
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They're defensive because they're on the wrong side of where it's going.

Leave them to it.
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paul i know that you are older and that it is not easy for you to understand things what you have never learned. so I tried to find an easy written article what explains you when dept to gdp is good and when it it bad.

i think this explanation is so easy written that even you should be able to understand it.

https://www.thebalance.com/what-is-t...-ratio-1978993

so if you did understand it after reading you should rethink your thought before you tell the world what is good and what is bad.

and i don´t complain you for not knowing it - i only complain you that you try to make the readers here THINK you would have skills in that.
but you should accept that you are only a ex middle class porn producer and not the economy minister of tabaluga land.
Tell that to the Greeks, Spanish, Irish, Italiens, etc.
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that was a good one again.

seems your fake news channels did not really update you about the brexit.

may don´t want a fast brexit anymore -indeed she seems not even to know IF she wants a brexit.

today she asked for 2 years more - maybe because someone explained her the content of the forecasts what will happen with britain in the next decades.

so possibly you are speculating on the space of the syrian refugees in Germany for the brexit refugees.

i really wished they would exit faster to show the rest of the world what happens when populism rules a country.
When Britain leaves the balance of votes in the EU moves firmly towards the States taking out more than they put in. Which means those putting in will have to

Are you anti-democracy as well.

Germany will need those two years to replace the loss of the UK as a market. Trade is two ways.
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Let's go back to the start. Merkel did say there would be "no limits" to the people she would allow into Germany. You can argue about how many would stay there, breed there, work there, leave after a while, commit crime, rape, be forced to leave, whatever. She seemed to think she could dictate which other countries in Europe she would spread the sheer volume of numbers arriving to Germany. Didn't take her long to realise the numbers were much more than she figured plus most weren't actually refugee's at all and quickly claimed the border CLOSED.

Fact is she made the most riduculous statement and call in recent times. And yet she still holds power and is about to do so further.

Who knows what next ridiculous shit she will come away with next.

Yet people talk about Donald Trump tweets ? Sheeesh...
Did she ask the German people what they wanted?

Has she asked the people of Europe what they want?

Thommy will love this, living outside the EU, not paying the taxes and favouring non-popularism policies.
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what would be with the first one who is "over the limit" would you take them or shall we throw them back into the sea ?

remember: these are people who are fleeing from a war...in wich inhuman school did you get your education ? in the roman arena ?

and what means "spread over europe" ????

they CAME to europe but only 2 or 3 countries have the responsibility to stand for what they signed in the geneve refugee convention.

YOUR country signed it too so first of all you are word breakers and want to blame the ones what are standing for it.

PUSSIES !!!!
They are coming because they know they willget welfare. If they went intocamps with no work they wouldn't be getting onto boats.

No, they are not all fleeing wars. The few that are are fleeing wars where their own countrymen want to slaughter them. Do you support the US and Russian intervention in those conflicts?

They won't spread over Europe. They will go to the countries with the best welfare systems. Those fleeing wars would be stopping in the first safe country. The ones from Africa enter a war zone to get onto boats. Turkey isn't at war, the ones from Asia have no intention of staying in Turkey and Turkey can't get rid of them fast enough.

Do you read the news or just think it's fake?
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Thommy you failed to answer my post about the taxes you pay. Where is your company registered, where do you pay your personal taxes and how much time do you spend in Thailand as a tax exile?
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finally a critical article about Merkel and the brainwashed German, lead by the public paid media. But is in Dutch.

https://www.volkskrant.nl/opinie/de-...ntes~a4517430/

This woman is in a german TV program, worked her whole live and will end up with a pension of 645 euro. She will not vote Merkel, she is smarter.



Heard that woman in the former East Germany are better of. Cause in west Germany not all woman worked, they won't get extra pension. While in East Germany, there was no unemployemnt so they get some extra pension....

My Father has a German girlfriend. If i hear her talk, she will never vote for Merkel either.

Whole Germany is brainwashed by the public media stations. Everybody with a little sense could see the refugee problem coming. But cause the people saw all the bad pictures of refugees Merkel wanted to be popular and welcome them. 3 months later there was a higher % that rather wanted them out. Just like in Holland. People are welcome, till people realize that it would cost too much. And than we will have the people getting their families also go to the EU the coming years.

I realy hope we will get a complete change, but i think Merkel will be there for some more years.
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