Paul Markham

Migrants and brought in to bring down wages and to stop companies training. Why train staff when you can employ a fully trained migrant for less?

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Paul Markham

Great video that doesn't go far enough.

Every citizen has a bill to pay to pay to run the country he/she lives in. This is how it works in the US. https://www.fool.com/taxes/2017/03/1...-in-taxes.aspx

So if your job doesn't make enough in wages, turnover, and profits to raise that amount of tax. You are contributing, someone else is picking up part of your bill.

If you're unemployed, on minimum wage, low wage, child, housewife, you don't contribute. So just having a job doesn't make you a contributor. Should you put someone else out of work by taking a lower salary you're a double hit on the economy. Because the unemployed don't disappear, they need welfare payments to survive.

Ship a job out of the US the men that worked there are now unemployed, give a to a robot the men who worked there are not unemployed.

Do it slowly enough and a lot of people will think this is the norm. Which allows the bosses to make even more money. People like Bladewire, Crockett, Rochard, Thommy, etc. Are you making more this year than last and none will make more next year? Will your customer base be slowly destroyed?

At the moment the missing $trillions are in the debt mountain.



This is out of date, it's about to top $20 trillion. Those cheap shirts, iPhones, plastics, etc, aren't so cheap anymore.



The UK and many EU countries are in the same boat. For the same reasons.

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Bladewire

Paul WTF?

In America if you buy gas, food or anything you're contributing by paying tax on all items.

If you work, you're contributing to society, to your employer and to their customers.

You are on the dole, so according to your logic, you don't contribute to society even though you're a father, husband, homeowner, vehicle owner, etc.

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Matt 26z

We all know that beaners take more out of the system than they put into it.

Paul Markham

If you don't earn enough, you don't contribute. There's a point where a person breaks even for contributing or not.

For instance, there are schooling, healthcare, policing, etc all to be paid for. Some people take out more than they put in.

This is why government debt is so high. You look at things like a 6-year-old child.

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Paul paid models 12 euros for a shoot and talks about contribution LOL

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thommy

you are far from reality !

the low wages underpaid workers are doing more for a country as any high paid or owner of a big company.

economy lives from money what is SPEND back to the circle.
the lower class does not have the chance so save money what means: they put all back into the circle.
with everything they buy the pay tax and founding work. products are only produced because many people can buy them.

on the other hand rich people or people with very high wages will save money and make more money from interest. making money from interest is not a production and not a service - interests are only leading to more money in the circle without any value on the other side.

so in fact it would help the society when this low paid workers are paying less taxes. with less taxes they could buy more and bring more work and more consumption into the circle.

low taxes would not mean that a government have to have less in the cash because it is not a question of % of tax - it is just a question how fast the dollar goes from one hand into the next. no matter how high a tax is the complete dollar will end up in the governments cashbox.
but if taxes are lower, more money would be spend and it would go faster from hand to hand. what again means that more people can enjoy the prosperity what is connected to the money they CAN spend.

this fact alone shows you how wrong trump´s tax policy is. because he want to decrease taxes for exactly this people who are not even able to spend the money they make and give it back to the market to create prosperity.
this people will have even more money to save and lend to others for interest (what is not a product and not a production). money is the equivalent for work and services - with interest the equivalent becomes the product and that is what kills prosperity.

so whenever you buy a glas of water you do it from the money the people spend and reached you on one or the other way. and when you buy this glas of water you do the same. and as more people can do that BEFORE that few cents you spend for it are in the governments cash box as more prosperity you create.

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Paul Markham

What a load of bollox.

If everyone was employed this analogy might be less wrong. Not right just less wrong. As low paid migrants put native workers out of work and lower wages the result is the government has to subsidise or ay welfare to the unemployed or low paid.

Then there are the children of the migrants, they are a drain on the economy until they reach an age they are able to earn enough to contribute. Housewives are also a drain.

Then there are the costs every person in a country incurs. Housing is the biggest cost. It costs somewhere between $150,000 - $500,000 to house a family. An average US/EU family unit is 4.5. So every family costs $33,333 - $111,111 to house. Should they earn enough to buy their own home they contribute. Should they need to be housed by the Government or some organisation, they cost.

Then there are the healthcare, education, policing, prisons, etc.

But the biggest costs of mass migration is the people put out of work of having their wages suppressed. This cuts taxes and raises welfare. Hence the terrible debt many US/EU countries are finding themselves in.

As for making money for interest. This shows how out of touch Thommy is. Interests rates today are lower than the rate of inflation, so putting money into a bank loses money.

He is right about low tax rates. The US has a terrible tax rate. This shows how much Government spending is running riot.



This shows where the money is spent.



62% on Social Security, Medicare, and Housing. Reduce the number of people, that bill will reduce. Maybe they could cut military spending a bit, but that's not the problem.

The UK is the same.



It makes no difference about the number in work if the wages are so low they can't contribute more than they cost. Because as my charts prove, there are costs people incur, the more people the higher the costs.

However, he is right about Trump's tax plans. People spending do not raise as much tax as they used to. most of the goods bought today are imported, so the tax raised is less than it was when goods were made in the country of purchase. From design to the shop there are taxes raised, today the goods arrive at a port and all the taxes raised by manufacturing are raised outside the country of purchase. .

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thommy

@ paul - i aske you again for your economic skills.

I HAVE studied this "bollox" and i have a master degree - where is your prove that qualifies you to post bullshit and deny thousands of years old rules of economies ????

no wonder that you have to live in CZ because with your knowledge of commerce and economy you would live under the bridge in britain.

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