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https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/a...-cloud-storage

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Unlimited plans?offered by many cloud storage and backup companies as promotions for their storage capabilities?are almost never truly limitless. Most come with stipulations about data usage limits if you start hoarding too hard, and the majority of users will never come close to needing that much storage.

Reddit user beaston02 was determined to find the true ceiling of Amazon's cloud storage plan, which was killed off in June. He decided to push its limits with a petabyte of porn. (Some people credit beaston02 for Amazon's decision to cancel the unlimited storage offering, but he denies that rumor.) For reference, a petabyte is one million gigabytes.

To gather this much data, beaston02 wrote scripts that recorded public webcam shows from a variety of adult cam sites, including CamSoda, Chaturbate, and MyFreeCams.

"I have more of a problem with collecting or hoarding data than I do with porn"

"It is nearly entirely porn," he told me in a Reddit message. "Ever since I got into computers, I found myself learning more, and faster when it was something more interesting. Call me crazy, but women interest me more than most other things on the internet and there is a huge amount of data being created daily, so it was a good fit for the project."

He said it took five or six months to collect one petabyte of porn, and he stopped collecting just shy of 1.8 petabytes.

How long would it take one to consume 1.8 petabytes of porn? 1.8 petabytes is about 23.4 years of HD-TV video, but webcam streams are nowhere near that quality. A few good folks crunched the numbers: 720p is about two gigabytes per hour, and at 900,000 hours, that's 102 years of straight calendar time. If the videos are even lower quality, say, 480p, that's around 0.7 gigabytes per hour, or 293 years and six months. Better get to watching.

Beaston02 told me he stopped recording streams simply because his interest in it waned. "I know plenty of people have labeled me some huge pervert or someone with a huge porn addiction, but that's really not me at all," he said. "I have more of a problem with collecting or hoarding data than I do with porn." He said he used the exercise to learn Python, SQL databases, and how to handle that much data. "The project ran its course, I got the knowledge I was hoping to get, and I just had no interest in it anymore."

While he's no longer running the scripts that collected the porn, he made them available on Github. Another Redditor, -Archivist, took up the cause with the "Petabyte Porn Project," recruiting other hoarders to help continue recording live public cam sessions all day every day. -Archivist told me in a Reddit message that this represents "upwards of 12 terabytes per day." Those helping hoard are close to two petabytes now, stored on Amazon's cloud and mirrored on Google Drive. Amazon did not respond to Motherboard's request for comment.

Recording live streams and downloading them for later viewing is technically legal, but morally questionable. Some say "these people chose to be in the public eye" since they're recording from free, public streams, but most free cam models are paid on tips from viewers during live shows.

I asked Charley Hart, a cam model at CamSoda, what she thought of people downloading streams without her knowledge. "Part of me is ok with some of it," she said. "It's one thing if I do it?I think that's the whole thing, it's all about consent." She said that some women use live streams because it keeps their identities slightly safer than a static video that's uploaded to a website for repeated viewing. It could also be good advertising for a model to have her work spread widely, but only if viewers seek her out specifically instead of only seeking the next free video.

Some of her viewers download her shows while they watch, but always with her consent, and usually with the understanding that if they capture a good GIF or clip, they'll share with her so she can promote herself with it.

"That's why we ask guys to pay for our porn, because instead of going to production companies now, you're pretty much going specifically to the girl," Hart said. "The fact that some guys are trying to get that fantasy for free? I feel a little taken advantage of. I'm already giving away so much for free ... We choose this job and I understand that, but people should be compensated for what they do."

Beaston02 said that although people request he add features for recording private shows or ones that have geolocation requirements?viewable only by those within a geological area the model or site has specified?he doesn't deliver them. "We all have different places where we draw the line morally, and that happens to be one of my lines, at least as far as publicly releasing code goes," he said. "Although I have no control over what any captured content is used for later, I also have asked any content gathered by the scripts not be shared or sold on websites."

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bronco67

What an asshole.

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Barry-xlovecam

I am not surprised at all from a technical standpoint this has been doable in one form or another on a small scale for years.

As far as the security and moral considerations; new technology has made this impossible so far -- cam sites cannot use this technology on publicly broadcast streams only in peer-to-peer user or small multiuser peering scenarios.

There will be a lot of changes and disruptive innovation in adult cams coming in the next few years.

It also should be noted that this guy has

And that is only a small portion of the actual explicit and public preview content that has been broadcast since he started.

lezinterracial

and.... it's gone.

Amazon ends its unlimited cloud storage plan

https://techcrunch.com/2017/06/08/am...-storage-plan/

And thanks for driving home the fact that a live camshow will be stored out on the web forever. Reducing the amount of new content, again.

For a horny girl today. Easier to just go into prostitution. More privacy and more money.

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Bladewire

I purposely didn't post that story here for a reason

Based on the data given in other articles it seems the cams sites aren't limiting or altering surfer viewing by IP or limiting viewing for a certain time period, etc.

There are some basic things not being done to prevent this from happening.

Yes thieves will adapt, but they currently don't need to do anything but use that basic GitHub record script from the same IP day & night day in day out 24/7

Bladewire

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Barry-xlovecam

Camshows shows are not content -- they are like a steak you order in a restaurant -- a consumable item.

That is like saying you can view your steak again when you take a shit.

If you just want to fap to the images (again) it's the same thing I guess. But who pays to view porn and fap?

If you don't understand what I just said -- you are in the wrong business. Or, you make your money monetizing traffic -- not creating camshows (nor selling camshows).

CaptainHowdy

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pimpmaster9000

the free cam shows get recorder over and over and over and models are more and more reluctant to sign up to free cam sites because of this....now with the face recognition software coming up it will be even harder for models to make money online without somebody trying to blackmail/sell their recordings etc...

they will manage to fuck over cams LOL just so that some indian webmaster can make like 50$/month with his shitty recordings...

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Bladewire

You must not visit tubes often.

Pages and pages of top ranking videos that are the best parts of cam shows that people will fap to and never know who the guy/girls are and where to see more of them. It's fucked up. That's what tubes for, steal the best of everything for a few pennies and the ability to install viruses on devices.

The U.S. government should outlaw ad networks & illegal tubes as a national security threat. Every tube I was on yesterday gave a virus alert at some point

Barry-xlovecam

Those are the same people that would never spend money on a camshow -- so I don't give a fuck.

To extrapolate: what if the tube viewers all get a virus and die (they get to reformat their box and their identity is stolen, bank account details stolen, credit card data compromised) -- I don't give a fuck.

Tube are not even in my equation.
There will always be traffic sources -- internet traffic existed before tubes and will after tubes.

Government protect porn users? lolz Good reason to stay away then -- isn't it?

Barry-xlovecam

Current explicit cam websites are existing past their expiration date -- have been for a while.

There is still, and always will be money in the cam business.

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ErectMedia

Same as web hosting, that $4.99 unlimited plan sounds nice until ya start actually using resources and get da boot. Marketing tactic as unlimited sounds huge and 90-95% of customers will be fine and then they just kick the 5-10% off that actually try to use what they were promised.

+1 Most of my adult income has come from Cams for many years. I've seen the same guys spend many hundreds on the same girls month after month and the majority is talking. More of renting a girlfriend. Reason cams will continue to be strong as the guy just looking to FAP to prerecorded video isn't the guy that drops $400-$500+ on the same girl every month.

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CPA-Rush

why you think cams are perfect ? maybe it was 10 years ago but now it's not . i see people leaving for one reason or another .... men are getting hurt from this relationships i know because i'm member too , top members spend 1000 usd in two weeks then leave

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Bladewire

Ummm hate to tell you but lots and lots of pornhub surfers subscribe to pornhub. They pay. It's not 2010 anymore

I'm not trying to be disrespectful to cam industry people. I know this sucks.

If cam companies don't get their shit together they're going to significantly shrink their model base.

A scripts recording 23 years of cam shows from the same IP is a red hearing to models that cam companies aren't really trying to stop people recording shows.

Bladewire

Looking at all the positives and ignoring the negatives won't help.

The issue isn't the guy who spends $500 on the girl, it's that girls disappears from doing cams because her every move is recorded and can be edited and released to make her look bad or released years after they stop doing cams.

Snapchat lost a huge following when it was found out snaps could be recorded, and snaps became less authentic as well. This I know from vast experience

Barry-xlovecam

When I worked for Xlovecam I saw the pathetic rates of the tube advertising conversions. I know better. I don't give a fuck for good reason.
Cam performers that want privacy in the current camsite models are wishful thinkers. Note I said current model.


Wholesale recording and archiving of webcam shows broadcast publicly is only criminal copyright violation when used for profit -- not much you can do. Notice who is on his list -- what sites. Why would I pay for that when I can get it and fap to it for free?

Another thing to consider; Had this Beaston02 guy that did this deed had been required to pay $2.00 a minute for his archive of *about two or three centuries of video time* could he have afforded it -- NO. So who made this possible for him?

As far as cam companies not caring about this -- tracking this is not that hard using server logging and nosql data mining.

When people stop thieving, stop breaking laws, etc. the world will all sing kumbaya -- deal with it and try to stay one step ahead

CPA-Rush

some money in recorded sites, i know handful advertisers make a revenue from it but i bet the ratio is fucked.

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