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Old 08-06-2017, 06:45 AM   #1
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Backup and all the bell's ! What is the best way to store and protect your Backup files ?

Im about to purchase a package Backup services from an independent provider and would like to know

if any of you have used this type of service before and if IT IS as reliable as they say it is.

If you can share some reliable service post ONLY a service you haved use your self That would be great.

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Old 08-06-2017, 07:41 AM   #2
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You made me start thinking

https://aws.amazon.com/glacier/

I am going to investigate this -- I have many duplicate SATA 6 here locally but if there were to be a fire or some natural disaster. If aliens invade from space all bets off ....
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Old 08-06-2017, 07:45 AM   #3
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1. how many space you need
2. are you planing manual or automatic backup?
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Old 08-06-2017, 08:03 AM   #4
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You made me start thinking

https://aws.amazon.com/glacier/

I am going to investigate this -- I have many duplicate SATA 6 here locally but if there were to be a fire or some natural disaster. If aliens invade from space all bets off ....
Scratching my head thinking of this situation since yesterday. Thanks will have a look .

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1. how many space you need
2 dedicated server + 2 Large vps ( split in 2 separated hosting company )
Total 35 websites all PHP and some WP.

My Ad Network have its owned dedicated server and back up But its an all include packages and automatic ( im not worry for that one )

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2. are you planing manual or automatic backup?
Would like everything to be automatic

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Old 08-06-2017, 08:07 AM   #5
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SO it cots you to store it and retrieve it?
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Old 08-06-2017, 08:30 AM   #6
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SO it cots you to store it and retrieve it?
That's a very good question too ! Trying to save me the headache of read all TOS .

Let say the rep of the company i was talking too have giggle when i ask them about if there any hidden fee's.

That's what bring me here asking around if anyone have or use at the moment this type of service .
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Old 08-06-2017, 01:01 PM   #7
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I use IDrive.com both for personal and business backups.

Business is a bit pricey if you need to backup terabytes worth of data though their versioning (keeps up to 30 copies of each file so you can potentially restore an older version if you got a virus, hacked or something) is great. it may make sense to use a more basic option like Glacier for your media files and then IDrive for your non-media files.
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Old 08-06-2017, 01:42 PM   #8
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Glacier is great but it is more or less a "permanent" data storage. If you retrieve more than 10-30% of your data in one month, it will cost a lot! Amazon is great but if/when you need that data it's gonna cost you.
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Old 08-06-2017, 01:43 PM   #9
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https://aws.amazon.com/glacier/pricing/

$0.004 /GB per month isn't much (storage)

If it costs less $100 to retrieve the data after an incident -- if that is too much then you are on the wrong business ...

I would use rsync or scp and save it locally first. Use glacier as a backup of the backup ...
It depends on what the data is worth to you ...
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Old 08-06-2017, 01:44 PM   #10
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Glacier is great but it is more or less a "permanent" data storage. If you retrieve more than 10-30% of your data in one month, it will cost a lot! Amazon is great but if/when you need that data it's gonna cost you.
Thanks Adraco to confirm this

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I use IDrive.com both for personal and business backups.

Business is a bit pricey if you need to backup terabytes worth of data though their versioning (keeps up to 30 copies of each file so you can potentially restore an older version if you got a virus, hacked or something) is great. it may make sense to use a more basic option like Glacier for your media files and then IDrive for your non-media files.
Thanks for the intel i will ave a look .

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https://aws.amazon.com/glacier/pricing/

$0.004 /GB per month isn't much

If it costs less $100 to retrieve the data after an incident -- if that is too much then you are on the wrong business ...

I would use rsync or scp and save it locally first. Use glacier as a backup of the backup ...
It depends on what the data is worth to you ...
Now when i think about this, that rates could seems to be reasonable compare to what a tech haved charge me in the past when my Vbulletin been hacked.
Those guys from VB .ORG if i recal correctly was $150+/ hour and that for many hours trying to retreived the website.

$100 - $300 to retrieve all my data ? That's Priceless IMO.... I don't minded paying that after all

Thanks Barry for your investigation will definetly look into this Glacier
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Old 08-06-2017, 07:40 PM   #11
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AWS S3 syncs my servers every night securely via keyfile and the cost is so low it's crazy,you can set it thru WHM/cpanel and your AWS account in about 5 minutes and set when how many you want to keep etc........best for server backups. Personal AOMEI i have for free and it does a full image of the entire computer every single day to my connected USB drive and then also uploads it to dropbox via boxcryptor so it's encrypted to me only, plus the AOMEI software allows the option to encrypt the backup to AES256 anyway so that is sort of redundant I guess. All automated daily. 1 TB Dropbox is 9.99 or 6.99 onedrive with office 365 membership or if YOU HAVE office already you have 1 TB onedrive you probably didn't know about included. Boxcryptor works on that too so everything is encrypted client side before upload and only you have the keys. Only way to trust your data in the cloud is to control the keys yourself and Boxcryptor is free for one provider, so if you only use Dropbox then it's free, if you want it for DB, onedrive, googledrive and amazoon cloud, or amazon AWS/S3 you have to pay 48 bucks a year. That's it and nobody can see your stuff but you ever.
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AWS S3 syncs my servers every night securely via keyfile and the cost is so low it's crazy,you can set it thru WHM/cpanel and your AWS account in about 5 minutes and set when how many you want to keep etc........best for server backups. Personal AOMEI i have for free and it does a full image of the entire computer every single day to my connected USB drive and then also uploads it to dropbox via boxcryptor so it's encrypted to me only, plus the AOMEI software allows the option to encrypt the backup to AES256 anyway so that is sort of redundant I guess. All automated daily. 1 TB Dropbox is 9.99 or 6.99 onedrive with office 365 membership or if YOU HAVE office already you have 1 TB onedrive you probably didn't know about included. Boxcryptor works on that too so everything is encrypted client side before upload and only you have the keys. Only way to trust your data in the cloud is to control the keys yourself and Boxcryptor is free for one provider, so if you only use Dropbox then it's free, if you want it for DB, onedrive, googledrive and amazoon cloud, or amazon AWS/S3 you have to pay 48 bucks a year. That's it and nobody can see your stuff but you ever.
Finally a useful post from you..
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