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Old 07-31-2017, 03:52 AM   #1
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US says time for talk on N.Korea 'is over'



Washington (AFP) - The time for talk on North Korea is "over", the United States said, spurning a UN response to Pyongyang's latest ICBM launch in favour of bomber flights and missile defence system tests.

Nikki Haley, the US envoy to the United Nations, said there was "no point" in holding a fruitless emergency Security Council session, warning that another weak council resolution would be "worse than nothing" in light of the North's repeated violations.

North Korean leader Kim Jong-Un boasted of his country's ability to strike any target in the US after an intercontinental ballistic missile test Friday which weapons experts said could even bring New York into range -- a major challenge to President Donald Trump.

US strategic bombers on Saturday flew over the Korean peninsula in a direct response to the launch, and on Sunday American forces successfully tested a missile interception system which the US hopes will be installed on the Korean peninsula.

Under Kim's leadership, North Korea has accelerated its drive towards a credible nuclear strike capability, in defiance of international condemnation and multiple sets of UN sanctions. The US Senate passed new bipartisan sanctions on Pyongyang on Friday.

Haley urged China, Japan and South Korea to tighten the screws on Pyongyang.

"An additional Security Council resolution that does not significantly increase the international pressure on North Korea is of no value," she said in a statement late Sunday.

"It sends the message to the North Korean dictator that the international community is unwilling to seriously challenge him.

"China must decide whether it is finally willing to take this vital step. The time for talk is over."

Analysts said the comments indicated Washington had run out of patience with the diplomatic approach, and could consider military intervention.

The latest ICBM test "poses a seemingly tangible threat to the national security of the US", said Jeung Young-Tae, director of military studies at Dongyang University in South Korea.

"Now the US will see no point in negotiation, which only helps Pyongyang earn more time to develop its weapons programmes," he said.

"Whether we want it or not, the risk of unilateral military action by the US cannot be ruled out at this point."

- 'They do NOTHING' -

Earlier, Trump warned that he would not allow China -- the impoverished North's sole major ally and economic lifeline -- to "do nothing" about Pyongyang.

In two tweets Trump linked trade strains with the Asian giant -- marked by a trade deficit of $309 billion last year -- to policy on North Korea, after South Korea indicated it could speed up the deployment of a US missile defence system that has infuriated China.

"I am very disappointed in China. Our foolish past leaders have allowed them to make hundreds of billions of dollars a year in trade, yet they do NOTHING for us with North Korea, just talk," Trump wrote.

"We will no longer allow this to continue. China could easily solve this problem!"

Trump has repeatedly urged China to rein in its recalcitrant neighbour, but Beijing insists dialogue is the only practical way forward.

It rejected his linkage of trade and the North, with commerce vice-minister Qian Keming telling a briefing Monday the issues "are not related, and should not be discussed together".

Shinzo Abe, the prime minister of US treaty ally Japan, also urged Beijing to act -- along with Moscow -- after telephone talks with Trump on Monday Tokyo time.

The North had "trampled all over" efforts to seek a peaceful solution to the situation and "unilaterally escalated" tensions.

"The international community including China and Russia must take it seriously and step up pressure," Abe told reporters.

Pyongyang lauded the developers of the missile at the weekend, the official Korean Central News Agency (KCNA) reported.

The US-led campaign only provided "further justification" for the North's resolve to maintain its weapons programs, the foreign ministry said in a statement carried by KCNA.

The ICBM test "is meant to send a stern warning to the US making senseless remarks, being lost to reason in the frantic sanctions and pressure campaign against the DPRK," it said, using an acronym for the North's official name.

Independent experts say the latest ICBM brings Los Angeles and Chicago within range, and could travel as far as Boston and New York.

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why is china supposed to clean up US foreign policy shit?...delusional US gov LOL...

"Our foolish past leaders have allowed them to make hundreds of billions of dollars a year in trade"

allowed- LOL

like the USA is somebody who can "allow" other countries to make money LOL...

reality: americans do not want to buy american hence the huge trade deficit...has shit to do with china, they are not the ones buying too much foreign cheap shit LOL
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why is china supposed to clean up US foreign policy shit?...delusional US gov LOL...

"Our foolish past leaders have allowed them to make hundreds of billions of dollars a year in trade"

allowed- LOL

like the USA is somebody who can "allow" other countries to make money LOL...

reality: americans do not want to buy american hence the huge trade deficit...has shit to do with china, they are not the ones buying too much foreign cheap shit LOL
Don't let your hatred of the US color all of your thoughts. China makes North Korea possible.
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N. Korea won't attack anyone. They will sell the missile technology to someone who will use it. China has to be told if it wants to sell in the modern world, it has to join the modern world.
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Don't let your hatred of the US color all of your thoughts. China makes North Korea possible.
yes yes it was soooo important for the USA to "liberate" north koreans and vietnameese from communism by dropping more bombs than WW2 combined at them...nothing to do with war mongering at all...military industrial complex will dissolve right after peace is achieved...no war monger agendas at all
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wondering how the missile interception system works? is it just a detection or does it stop the missile by corrupting the rocket? Disabling a nuke would logically be the best for of defence, rather than using war and aggression, depends on Trump and how he´s got his nappy on
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How many countries has North Korea invaded or attacked in the past forty or fifty years?

How many countries as the United States invaded or attacked in the past forty or fifty years?
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How many countries has North Korea invaded or attacked in the past forty or fifty years?

How many countries as the United States invaded or attacked in the past forty or fifty years?
you of of all people here know that some of the countries (invaded) were training grounds for terrorist! north korea is not a super power. you saw the video of training. sure they were allies against russia now they are the enemy now.
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wondering how the missile interception system works? is it just a detection or does it stop the missile by corrupting the rocket? Disabling a nuke would logically be the best for of defence, rather than using war and aggression, depends on Trump and how he´s got his nappy on
I think it would be more impressive if they actually shot down one of the test missiles from NK - They don't announce them so as far as anyone knows they are all 'real' - I assume this system cost billions - Prove it was worth it and that it actually works - That might make NK think twice and help the rest of us sleep at night...
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I think it would be more impressive if they actually shot down one of the test missiles from NK - They don't announce them so as far as anyone knows they are all 'real' - I assume this system cost billions - Prove it was worth it and that it actually works - That might make NK think twice and help the rest of us to sleep at night...
if you do that it's an act of war
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if you do that it's an act of war
And firing an ICBM into Japanese territory isn't?..
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And firing an ICBM into Japanese territory isn't?..
no! testing is allowed. it was not even armed
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no! testing is allowed. it was not even armed
How would anyone KNOW that for sure? - They randomly fired it - Are you willing to risk your life on it?..
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But Nico-T & Wehateporn & Mineistaken said Trump is a nationalist that doesn't want conflict with Syria, Semolina,North Korea, and all the other countries we have troops in?
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I think it would be more impressive if they actually shot down one of the test missiles from NK - They don't announce them so as far as anyone knows they are all 'real' - I assume this system cost billions - Prove it was worth it and that it actually works - That might make NK think twice and help the rest of us sleep at night...
Then NK blows up the THAAD?
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you of of all people here know that some of the countries (invaded) were training grounds for terrorist! north korea is not a super power. you saw the video of training. sure they were allies against russia now they are the enemy now.
So many terrorist groups, so little time. So difficult to track. Which terrorists were we going after in Grenada again? I forget.

My point is we've made North Korea out to be this huge problem when in fact, it really isn't. They can launch missiles at the United States, but that's really irrelevant - NK isn't the only country who has such ability, and frankly none of us can ever use it.... They launch at us, we launch at them, no one wins. They cannot launch a conventional attack on us or invade; They just don't have that ability. They also cannot really invade South Korea; That would be a cluster fuck and clearly they would lose.

This is why we've done nothing with North Korea for the past fifty years. They've been threatening us for the past fifty years. They can beat their fists on their chests all they want but they cannot do anything.

We have two options here....
1) Do nothing.
2) Start a war where tens of thousands of Americans will die.

This is exactly why we do nothing.
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Hopefully, cool heads will prevail.

And someone for fuck sakes, take away Trump's phone.
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And someone for fuck sakes, take away Trump's phone.
Priebus was the last guy to try - Scarymunchy hasn't got the balls...
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If there is some 'proof' that N Korea sells nuclear weapons to isis, al qaida or other terrorist group, NK will be gone.
And many countries will help.
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If your neighbor hates you and threatens to kill your dog, and you come home and your dog is shot in the head, is your dogs death a mystery?

If you have holes chewed through your baseboards and cupboards, is the source a mystery?

If you see a mosquito bite on your arm is it a mystery what caused it?

If you see a bee starting a nest, is it a mystery what the result will be?

If you see a fly buzzing, you know it came from a maggot. North Korea is the same from China

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yes yes it was soooo important for the USA to "liberate" north koreans and vietnameese from communism by dropping more bombs than WW2 combined at them...nothing to do with war mongering at all...military industrial complex will dissolve right after peace is achieved...no war monger agendas at all
You're right on this, but that still doesn't make it "right" that Kim Jong Un has Nukes and ICBMs.

It's quite often the case that BOTH parties in a conflict are wrong...
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>US says time for talk on N.Korea 'is over'
so, what is next step?
Cry in twitter how China does not want help with NK?
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