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jpv · 07-28-2017, 07:02 PM

15 years ago I ran a very successful membership site that made millions a year. I sold out at the right time. A lot has changed. So much content is free now. So, where is the money? Toys, dating, cams... What else?

I am looking to get back in.

EddyTheDog · 07-28-2017, 07:07 PM

Giving away all that free content seems to work...

NatalieK · 07-28-2017, 07:23 PM

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MrMaxwell · 07-29-2017, 01:20 AM

There is money in porn?!
MOTHER FUCKERS YOU FUCKING FUCKS
No one even told me

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MrMaxwell · 07-29-2017, 01:57 AM

Wow there's still money in dating and pills?
I am so old I didn't even know that internet dating was still a thing

PornDude · 07-29-2017, 02:26 AM

There is no money. Charities everywhere.

j3rkules · 07-29-2017, 02:45 AM

See what the biggest adult companies are doing, promoting and you will find the answer.

Paul Markham · 07-29-2017, 03:18 AM

Starting again from scratch, what do you bring to the table?

What are your main skills, programming, design, etc? If it's "Running a paysite 15 years ago".

Klen · 07-29-2017, 03:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Starting again from scratch, what do you bring to the table?

What are your main skills, programming, design, etc? If it's "Running a paysite 15 years ago".

Huh? What does services have with running bussiness ? Even tho situation in adult industry is hard now, it can be still some money to be made either by running paysite or freesite.

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CaptainHowdy · 07-29-2017, 07:26 AM

The money is in not coming back ...

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Bladewire · 07-29-2017, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy

The money is in not coming back ...

It never left, unless your haven't evolved

The Porn Nerd · 07-29-2017, 09:18 AM

Is this Shap?

Barry-xlovecam · 07-29-2017, 10:25 AM

If I knew -- why would I tell you?

I did read an astute statement yesterday: "Data is the oil of the future."

I would invest in disruptive Fintech for the adult processing industry.

PornDude · 07-29-2017, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

If it's "Running a paysite 15 years ago".

Just like you Paul

Ferus · 07-29-2017, 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Starting again from scratch, what do you bring to the table?

What are your main skills, programming, design, etc? If it's "Running a paysite 15 years ago".

That reply sums up everything anyone needs to know about you, and about how you have absolutely fuck all knowledge of running a business, and why you needed to move to your shithole of a country to find a place where your minimum income could get you a young wife.....

bns666 · 07-29-2017, 12:18 PM

you need to work more than before, no doubt...

Mediamix · 07-29-2017, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

Is this Shap?

MrMaxwell · 07-29-2017, 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy

The money is in not coming back ...

Well hilltop ads apparently needs inane mindless sigwhore fucktards
Fuck you

MrMaxwell · 07-29-2017, 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

If I knew -- why would I tell you?

I did read an astute statement yesterday: "Data is the oil of the future."

I would invest in disruptive Fintech for the adult processing industry.

Some day when you are not so busy and I am better able to travel, I MUST be meeting you.

MrMaxwell · 07-29-2017, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ferus

That reply sums up everything anyone needs to know about you, and about how you have absolutely fuck all knowledge of running a business, and why you needed to move to your shithole of a country to find a place where your minimum income could get you a young wife.....

Jesus walking on the moon you fuck MUST WE BE so hard on paul?
He was making content when most of us were not born / still playing in our own excrement at age 1

FFS
Have some respect shouldn't anyone these days

tobedeleted · 07-29-2017, 08:36 PM

It all started going away (the money) with insane affiliate programs. The free content was growing exponentially as every webmaster was zipping up tons of promo content and sending it to affiliates. This, along with torrent that had full site rips. The final nail in the coffin was tube sites. I'm still amazed to even see membership sites. The money now is in interactive sites, tangible products, or services (SEO, Web Development, etc.).

I wish I could go back to those glorious days of passive recurring membership money...

MrMaxwell · 07-29-2017, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by sincats

It all started going away (the money) with insane affiliate programs. The free content was growing exponentially as every webmaster was zipping up tons of promo content and sending it to affiliates. This, along with torrent that had full site rips. The final nail in the coffin was tube sites. I'm still amazed to even see membership sites. The money now is in interactive sites, tangible products, or services (SEO, Web Development, etc.).

I wish I could go back to those glorious days of passive recurring membership money...

Man I remember having residuals coming in from casinos, from several programs, etc |
Them was the days back then in those days back when that was at that time back in the day then that's for sure
I cannot WAIT to have passive income again

MrMaxwell · 07-29-2017, 09:23 PM

You can never be fucked into hell financially with streams of income pooling up everywhere

bronco67 · 07-29-2017, 09:28 PM

Money will always be where your talents are. If someone has a talent for rim jobs, then they should be filmed rimming ever hairy ass they can find.

MrMaxwell · 07-29-2017, 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronco67

Money will always be where your talents are. If someone has a talent for rim jobs, then they should be filmed rimming ever hairy ass they can find.

True
Then what if your talents are illegal
What then
Just be illegal acting
That is the problem I run into

Bladewire · 07-29-2017, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by MrMaxwell

True
Then what if your talents are illegal
What then
Just be illegal acting
That is the problem I run into

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Ferus · 07-29-2017, 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrMaxwell

Jesus walking on the moon you fuck MUST WE BE so hard on paul?
He was making content when most of us were not born / still playing in our own excrement at age 1

FFS
Have some respect shouldn't anyone these days

You mean exploiting young girls in poor east europe before anyone else? Lets give him a medal....

Spunky · 07-30-2017, 12:18 AM

Bend over and smile for the man

Paul Markham · 07-30-2017, 12:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris

Huh? What does services have with running bussiness ? Even tho situation in adult industry is hard now, it can be still some money to be made either by running paysite or freesite.

The capital needed to build a site from scratch, exceeds the sales in most cases.

MrMaxwell · 07-30-2017, 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ferus

You mean exploiting young girls in poor east europe before anyone else? Lets give him a medal....

He did? I thought he mostly did softcore or basic BG type of content and I never thought he used underage models ever
Say what?

Paul Markham · 07-30-2017, 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ferus

That reply sums up everything anyone needs to know about you, and about how you have absolutely fuck all knowledge of running a business, and why you needed to move to your shithole of a country to find a place where your minimum income could get you a young wife.....

No, it doesn't. Online porn is a very different world to what it was 20 years ago. He's sold 15 years ago, so added the extra 5 to when he began could be less.

How much would it cost to start a site today?

What are the odds of it getting enough traffic to ever break even?

I asked what his real skills were in order to help him. Why do you think otherwise?

Paul Markham · 07-30-2017, 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrMaxwell

Jesus walking on the moon you fuck MUST WE BE so hard on paul?
He was making content when most of us were not born / still playing in our own excrement at age 1

FFS
Have some respect shouldn't anyone these days

My reply was the most helpful. It stops the OP from wasting his money.

Ferus has nothing to offer.

Paul Markham · 07-30-2017, 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ferus

You mean exploiting young girls in poor east europe before anyone else? Lets give him a medal....

I was shooting young girls in the UK as well. Don't forget that.

Klen · 07-30-2017, 02:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

The capital needed to build a site from scratch, exceeds the sales in most cases.

You can register domain for 2$ and pay hosting 1$ monthly. For that you really dont need to raise capital.

Paul Markham · 07-30-2017, 02:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris

You can register domain for 2$ and pay hosting 1$ monthly. For that you really dont need to raise capital.

So that's all you need for a paysite!

Well then let's go for it, can I use your content?

brassmonkey · 07-30-2017, 03:37 AM

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Ferus · 07-30-2017, 04:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrMaxwell

He did? I thought he mostly did softcore or basic BG type of content and I never thought he used underage models ever
Say what?

You said "underage models".. not me. I always thought they were of legal age, but maybe you know something we dont.

incredibleworkethic · 07-30-2017, 04:26 AM

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Ferus · 07-30-2017, 04:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

No, it doesn't. Online porn is a very different world to what it was 20 years ago. He's sold 15 years ago, so added the extra 5 to when he began could be less.

How much would it cost to start a site today?

What are the odds of it getting enough traffic to ever break even?

I asked what his real skills were in order to help him. Why do you think otherwise?

He talks about running a business - not a site. You fail to understand the difference.

mce · 07-30-2017, 04:29 AM

OP, did you run an affiliate program with your content network?

Who did you sell out to?

emmasexytime · 07-30-2017, 05:07 AM

Cams convert very well but you need some way of getting good quality traffic to your program.

Konda · 07-30-2017, 05:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mce

Who did you sell out to?

Shap (true story)

CoolMikey · 07-30-2017, 05:58 AM

There are plenty of people who have been in this biz for more than a decade, all have the capital, skills, connections, etc and very few if any are launching new adult projects. That should tell you something.

So like Paul said, unless you have some unique skill, know some way to get ton of traffic, or have some other breakthrough idea, adult is not where the money is.

3xmedia · 07-30-2017, 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

see sig......

you mean sig whoring?

Paul Markham · 07-30-2017, 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ferus

He talks about running a business - not a site. You fail to understand the difference.

He talks about running a business, I understand that. We need to know what skills he has, how much money and what resources he has. Otherwise, no one here has a clue what to say.

ErectMedia · 07-30-2017, 07:20 AM

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