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Old 07-13-2017, 12:57 PM   #1
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I remember a certian group of people who claimed electric cars were a fad..

https://www.theguardian.com/environm...europe-by-2035

A certian group of people here on GFY, you you the global warming denial types were very sure that this whole electric thing would go away. They often said the Telsa was just a novelty, said no one would build enough charging stations, ect..ect.

Seems they were wrong..
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Driving around Europe on a battery would be a lot easier than trying to do that here.
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Which came into existence first electricity or oil?

My new 2lb flexible 100 watt solar panel just arrived today, it makes energy. So clean
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Id think you would be estatic about electric cars. You guys hate them oil rich muslims and sheiks with out gas powered cars those guys go back to riding camels and living in tents..

You righties are a strange group..
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Which came into existence first electricity or oil?

My new 2lb flexible 100 watt solar panel just arrived today, it makes energy. So clean
I have 3x 120w flexible panels on my vw van with 420ah of batteries for when I go road tripping. Hd TV, fridge/freezer led lights, ect..ect Never once had my power go out..lol

Im waiting until its viable to build a electric van. There is one guy that just put a Telsa drive train in one but it,'s only 2wd. I want mine to be 4wd but needs to be a better charge station network before I can go that route.
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Driving around Europe on a battery would be a lot easier than trying to do that here.
Yes, and thats too bad. If only you could contact someone in your local government to ask why its like this, and ask when it will change?


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Electric Ferrari would suck.
It would be faster, lighter, and would handle better. Why would it suck again?


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Id think you would be estatic about electric cars. You guys hate them oil rich muslims and sheiks with out gas powered cars those guys go back to riding camels and living in tents..

You righties are a strange group..
And more EV's will mean the shitboxes they have parked on their front lawns might actually go up in value. EV's are a win win win win for everyone.
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Ferrari has stated they will never make an electric car. I believe they said "Our clients like the sound and feel of a real motor engine". This might be true, but electric cars - starting with Tesla - can match Ferrari performance. I love Ferrari, but at a certain point Ferrari and other exotic cars will not be able to complete with electric cars.

I look at it this way.... My old Mustang Cobra was fast for it's time, but now any run of the mill Mustang can match it.

The only way Ferrari will survive is by it's styling and luxury.
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You won't explain that to EV retards .. the sound of a nice V-engine is one of the reasons to buy a sports car. It's about emotions, driving skills, thrill.

Drivers don't want a fucking EV with autopilot and 150 assistants. It's awkward and only good for idiots that can't fucking drive.
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Ferrari has stated they will never make an electric car. I believe they said "Our clients like the sound and feel of a real motor engine". This might be true, but electric cars - starting with Tesla - can match Ferrari performance. I love Ferrari, but at a certain point Ferrari and other exotic cars will not be able to complete with electric cars.

I look at it this way.... My old Mustang Cobra was fast for it's time, but now any run of the mill Mustang can match it.

The only way Ferrari will survive is by it's styling and luxury.
Not true at all...you have these things called enthusiasts and we dont care if its slower...as long as it has a combustion engine we will buy it. No enthusiast is going to be all for their new electric sports car that you cant mod. I cant even begin to imagine "tuning" an electric car...you would over lower both the the battery and motor expectancy significantly.
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Id think you would be estatic about electric cars. You guys hate them oil rich muslims and sheiks with out gas powered cars those guys go back to riding camels and living in tents..

You righties are a strange group..
You know me so well; you are as delusional as Bladeliar.
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Ferrari has stated they will never make an electric car. I believe they said "Our clients like the sound and feel of a real motor engine". This might be true, but electric cars - starting with Tesla - can match Ferrari performance. I love Ferrari, but at a certain point Ferrari and other exotic cars will not be able to complete with electric cars.

I look at it this way.... My old Mustang Cobra was fast for it's time, but now any run of the mill Mustang can match it.

The only way Ferrari will survive is by it's styling and luxury.
Then they won't be selling them in Europe according to the OP.
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Not true at all...you have these things called enthusiasts and we dont care if its slower...as long as it has a combustion engine we will buy it. No enthusiast is going to be all for their new electric sports car that you cant mod. I cant even begin to imagine "tuning" an electric car...you would over lower both the the battery and motor expectancy significantly.
Thank you; I couldn't believe he said it.

Must not be much of an enthusiast.
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How often do you drive further than 200 miles?
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You won't explain that to EV retards .. the sound of a nice V-engine is one of the reasons to buy a sports car. It's about emotions, driving skills, thrill.

Drivers don't want a fucking EV with autopilot and 150 assistants. It's awkward and only good for idiots that can't fucking drive.
It's also about penis enlargement, if only in the tiny brain of the owner!!!

Our reliance on fossil fuels has to come to an end.
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It's also about penis enlargement, if only in the tiny brain of the owner!!!

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No it's not. You don't understand.. I don't want the sound so others can hear me. I want the sound and the thrill for myself, who fucking cares what others think. I will buy petrol cars as long as it's possible, because I like them.
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If electric cars are to combat climate change can someone explain why my mini van will have a smaller carbon footprint after I drive it 100,000 miles than a brand new Prius rolling off the assembly line ? I am only talking about what was required to make the battery
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If electric cars are to combat climate change can someone explain why my mini van will have a smaller carbon footprint after I drive it 100,000 miles than a brand new Prius rolling off the assembly line ? I am only talking about what was required to make the battery
the reason for that is that this stats are based on the fact that the energy "filled up" is again produced from oil and coal.

but if you look into countries where this energy is already replaced on a much higher level with green energy the numbers look completely different.

we are far away from perfect but things are going better and better as long we think on the whole energy chain and replace it step by step.

that the future is on green energy is already proven with the fact that the oil nations are trying to buy every company what is involved in it. the oil states already know what will happen - only some "yesterday men" will wake up when the train has left the station.
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This is correct. Not only are the electric vehicles worse for the environment when you factor in mining for the batteries, they are a taxpayer ripoff. Tesla exists only because they got 5 billion taxpayer dollars.

You people seem oblivious to the fact that not all combustion engines run on fossil fuels. You know a diesel engine can burn plant-based fuel too, right? Hemp fuel burn 90% cleaner. The solution is farmers growing energy crops, not destructive mining to make batteries.

Once again Crockett science = epic fail.

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the reason for that is that this stats are based on the fact that the energy "filled up" is again produced from oil and coal.

but if you look into countries where this energy is already replaced on a much higher level with green energy the numbers look completely different.

we are far away from perfect but things are going better and better as long we think on the whole energy chain and replace it step by step.

that the future is on green energy is already proven with the fact that the oil nations are trying to buy every company what is involved in it. the oil states already know what will happen - only some "yesterday men" will wake up when the train has left the station.
That is all good and correct, and I am a big fan of better cleaner energy sources, but the problem is the lithium mining, which is extremely harmful.

Right now, electric cars are "green marketing" for money when in fact they cause more environmental harm then they repair.

Nuclear fusion is the future, but we are just touching the surface on that one.
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No it's not. You don't understand.. I don't want the sound so others can hear me. I want the sound and the thrill for myself, who fucking cares what others think. I will buy petrol cars as long as it's possible, because I like them.
It won't make your cock any bigger.
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It won't because of the production. But when you come to replace your old model for a new one, it will.

Why do you need a minim van?
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This is correct. Not only are the electric vehicles worse for the environment when you factor in mining for the batteries, they are a taxpayer ripoff. Tesla exists only because they got 5 billion taxpayer dollars.

You people seem oblivious to the fact that not all combustion engines run on fossil fuels. You know a diesel engine can burn plant-based fuel too, right? Hemp fuel burn 90% cleaner. The solution is farmers growing energy crops, not destructive mining to make batteries.

Once again Crockett science = epic fail.

And do we stop growing crops to eat?
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If electric cars are to combat climate change can someone explain why my mini van will have a smaller carbon footprint after I drive it 100,000 miles than a brand new Prius rolling off the assembly line ? I am only talking about what was required to make the battery
The same Prius will also have a smaller footprint after 100,000 miles.. Think about that real hard and get back to us on your conclusion as to why you think that might happen.. I know you can do it but if you need help maybe we can get Conway's flash cards out to help yea!
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And do we stop growing crops to eat?
Paul, the solution is very simple:

Lift the federal ban on industrial hemp farming. Encourage farmers to grow it. Use it for fuel, food, and thousands of green products.
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Back then when car was new thing, someone said "cars will fade away , horse is here to stay" and we seen how that ended
Basically, electrical car will replace gas car , only question is when. I think it should be around year 2050.
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Leave it to the dumb libs to ignore facts.

In reality, they should be called coal powered cars, since 2/3 of the power grid is fossil fuel.

Then there is nuclear energy, whose waste is in no way friendly for the environment.

Oh & all that rare earth mining in china to make batteries, so dumb libs make-believe they are helping the environment.

As usual, fairy tales over facts from the dumb libs.

Idiots.

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something people are not talking about. do these cars cause any danger to living things? i don't know if any of you remember when transformers gave off electrical currents. we will have a hybrid cancer in 20 years it will probably kill you in a few days.
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Back then when car was new thing, someone said "cars will fade away , horse is here to stay" and we seen how that ended
Basically, electrical car will replace gas car , only question is when. I think it should be around year 2050.

There are still horses and people who love/own them
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Back then when car was new thing, someone said "cars will fade away , horse is here to stay" and we seen how that ended
Basically, electrical car will replace gas car , only question is when. I think it should be around year 2050.
What is funny is these people that didn't take electric cars seriously don't seem to understand that just 100 years ago, horse & buggy was the thing. We've come a long way in a very short time and changes like this happen much faster than one would expect. There are still people living today who would have grown up when horses and buggys were a common sight.

Also some of the very 1st cars were actually electric and powered by batteries.
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Hi Spicey, I was waiting for you or someone to say that.

I was always a Trans-am guy. I owned about 10 of them between 1987 and 2001, the last production year.



When Camaro's came around I bought one in 2010



... then another. My last Camaro was a fucking sick beast : 2SS RS 1LE 550HP V8 Roar mobile.



(Yes, I love the color grey for cars).

I totally understand the romantic enthusiasm people have for the sound of a V8. Personally, I prefer the low hz rumble of a V8 than a high pitch wine of a 4 cyl any day. It is very safe to call me a V8 or F-car enthusiast. I get it. I understand. I know and appreciate the hard-on that a V8 can give any dude.

Now that being said, the sound and the rumble is only 1 small part of the car that anyone can love. You can also love the styling, handling, braking and especially performance. Would you agree?

Lets talk about performance. EV's like the Model S easily beat most V8's in a race, but you know this already as do most everyone else. EV's accelerate like crazy.

What you may not know is that many EV cars can out perform V8's too, simply because the center of gravity is lower to the ground thanks to the battery. EV's corner like they're riding on rails and if you don't believe me, I challenge you to go to a Tesla gallery and ask for a test drive. You won't fucking believe it.

So now: Imagine a performance car thats fun to drive, beats most V8's on the road and corners like a beast, but with the V8 roar replaced with silence. That's what an EV is.



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Drivers don't want a fucking EV with autopilot and 150 assistants.
It's awkward and only good for idiots that can't fucking drive.
There were 35,000 deaths due to accidents in the USA in 2015: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...n_U.S._by_year

Maybe you don't need autopilot, but maybe others do. Even if you never get one, autopilot driving someone elses car might save them from crashing into you one day.

Anyway, I grew out of V8's and switched to EV's. To be 100% honest, I miss my Camaro, and always check out the other Camaros & Vettes that roar by, but I'm now 100% EV and will stay that way. Of course EV's aren't for everyone depending where you live and where you need to drive every day, but I urge you to at least go to a dealer and check them out. It can't hurt.

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Old 07-14-2017, 09:25 AM   #36
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Hi Spicey, I was waiting for you or someone to say that.

I was always a Trans-am guy. I owned about 10 of them between 1987 and 2001, the last production year. When Camaro's came around I bought one... then another. My last Camaro was a fucking sick beast : 2SS RS 1LE 550HP V8 Roar mobile.

I totally understand the romantic enthusiasm people have for the sound of a V8. Personally, I prefer the low hz rumble of a V8 than a high pitch wine of a 4 cyl any day. It is very safe to call me a V8 or F-car enthusiast. I get it. I understand. I know and appreciate the hard-on that a V8 can give any dude.

Now that being said, the sound and the rumble is only 1 small part of the car that anyone can love. You can also love the styling, handling, braking and especially performance. Would you agree?

Lets talk about performance. EV's like the Model S easily beat most V8's in a race, but you know this already as do most everyone else. EV's accelerate like crazy.

What you may not know is that many EV cars can out perform V8's too, simply because the center of gravity is lower to the ground thanks to the battery. EV's corner like they're riding on rails and if you don't believe me, I challenge you to go to a Tesla gallery and ask for a test drive. You won't fucking believe it.

So now: Imagine a performance car thats fun to drive, beats most V8's on the road and corners like a beast, but with the V8 roar replaced with silence. That's what an EV is.





There were 35,000 deaths due to accidents in the USA in 2015:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...n_U.S._by_year

Maybe you don't need autopilot, but maybe others do. Even if you never get one, autopilot driving someone elses car might save them from crashing into you one day.

Thanks for the explanation, I still don't give a fuck about this electric shit
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Old 07-14-2017, 09:33 AM   #37
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Production of batteries so "green" or toxic?
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i don't ever plan to own an electric car. its bad enough that i am driving a honda crv. i miss the old days driving my 83 monte carlo around. i eventually plan to get a 68 gto or something similar.
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Old 07-14-2017, 09:39 AM   #39
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i don't ever plan to own an electric car. its bad enough that i am driving a honda crv. i miss the old days driving my 83 monte carlo around. i eventually plan to get a 68 gto or something similar.
It might be necessary to buy electric car once gas stations will be abolished and you wont be able to refile your gas car anywhere.
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Stop the presses, there's lead in old batteries and a battery recycling center will be toxic.

Sarn the Putin loving Russian also hates green energy, because fewer people need Russian oil when they use renewable energy. Imagine that, a Putin Russian against the best interest of the planet.
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Hi Spicey, I was waiting for you or someone to say that.

SpicyM is a broken English third worlder pretending to be an American in Los Angeles, don't be fooled. He slipped again and called gas "petrol" in another thread today
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i don't ever plan to own an electric car. its bad enough that i am driving a honda crv. i miss the old days driving my 83 monte carlo around. i eventually plan to get a 68 gto or something similar.
Until you come to the realization that performance electric cars will out preform any gas powered street cat hands down. A gas car simply can not match the instant torque available to a high performance electric car.






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It might be necessary to buy electric car once gas stations will be abolished and you wont be able to refile your gas car anywhere.
i don't see it happening in my lifetime. perhaps in my kids but what are they going to do with all the gas powered cars? ban classic cars? trash them? sounds like that would create a lot of waste and landfills.
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It would be faster, lighter, and would handle better. Why would it suck again?
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Oh you did NOT just type that shit!!!!


You don't even like cars so where do you get off lecturing about how a Ferrari would handle better if it was electric. I bet you haven't even sat in a Ferrari whereas I've been blown on several occasions while driving a 365 GTC/4.

Mark you're a tall goon at the very least get yourself an SUV even if it's just a "Hyundai."
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Make ethanol ;)

You will have to pry the keys from my cold hands in order to get my to get rid of my gasoline/methanol burning vehicle. Not going to happen no way no how!
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Electric cars are a fad.

The future is in the next fuel technology breakthrough when you won't need to "re-fuel" for years. Hydrogen fusion or some such.
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How often do you drive further than 200 miles?
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It would if you own one!!!
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i don't see it happening in my lifetime. perhaps in my kids but what are they going to do with all the gas powered cars? ban classic cars? trash them? sounds like that would create a lot of waste and landfills.
Definitely won't happen in my lifetime.
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They will eat those words, I guarantee it. Electric is even coming to racing, even F1 racing will at some point go electric and Ferrari will either stop racing or build electric cars..
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Paul, the solution is very simple:

Lift the federal ban on industrial hemp farming. Encourage farmers to grow it. Use it for fuel, food, and thousands of green products.
did you ever think or investigate about the BS you are talking?

to get 50 gallons of plant oil per year you need 10.000 squaremeters land.

Americans used about 392 million gallons of gasoline per day in 2016

now count a bit and after that tell me WHERE you find the land what you need for your "intelligent project" and even WHEN you find the land where do you plant all the other important agriculture products ?

you anwsers and thoughts are so immature that you can see from it alone how little you know from things you're talking about.
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Make ethanol ;)

You will have to pry the keys from my cold hands in order to get my to get rid of my gasoline/methanol burning vehicle. Not going to happen no way no how!


Finally someone that's talking sense in this forum!

The first effeminate mother's boy that tries to take away my beloved gas guzzlers will feel the wrath of my 30-30 and they'll have to pry both that and my car keys out of my stone cold hands.
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