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TheSquealer

Seriously? Impulsivity is a symptom of ADHD).

anyone that was truly determined, excited and hungry and actually wanted to "get to work" AND WAS CAPABLE, would be busy getting to work.

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Shap

Hey thanks for taking the time to write this. I appreciate it

Let me break down each of your comments.

I've always had a much different approach to how I view the industry and what type of projects/sites excite me. I personally believe anything built in a few minutes or built in 3 days can be torn apart just as quickly. It has no value. I've never been a get rich quick guy. Nothing that has value was built overnight. It took me years to build Twistys up. It's not just about having a site, having content and having some traffic. It's about building a brand. Building something that you can build upon and know that tomorrow it will still be there.

I've never claimed to have all the great expertise. I've always tried to help everybody i meet. I've had many conversations over the past few years and I think those people are the ones to ask whether I know what I'm talking about or not.

What does a partner have to offer me? I'm not a god. I'm just a guy who gets the industry and knows how to make long term sustainable money in it. A partner can offer many things to me. Whether it is content production, infrastructure, product/project management etc. I'm just one guy. But when this one guy is teamed up with the right people great things happen.

I think this goes back to people I've talked to in the industry over the last few years. While I haven't run anything of my own the people I've been in touch with and given help to have benefited from it.

Before choosing a partner you should research that person. Including myself. Anybody who would want to work with me should really dig deep and look through all my posts and what I've done (that is exactly what I do with people before I choose to work or hire them).

Now anybody who did their research would very quickly be able to see what I have to offer.
#1 I've done it before. I've made a lot of money with a variety of sites. From CJ to TGP to Paysite to Tube. Every type of site I've launched I've been successful with.
Alright your response to that is "whatever shap that was done during the golden era of porn"
Fair enough.
#2 Look up every post I've made in the last 5 years. I've shared a lot of advice and thoughts on the industry and business.

In an industry filled with smoke and mirrors companies and characters I'm the one guy where everything is out there in the open. What you see if what you get.

Shap

I'm not trying to appeal to the casual observer. Let's be completely honest I have nothing to offer the casual observer and the casual observer has nothing to offer me. I'm just trying to get word out to the people that I could create magic with

Unfortunately the casual observer has to see this in order for me to get my message out. My apologies in advance to those people. I'll provide you with some good porn to make up for it in the near future

Shap

I like this idea the best. Doesn't even have to be acquiring them. I can see huge value in finding a way to bring a group of mid level paysites together and have them benefit from each other.

Shap

JFK

Perhaps, you need to get back on the show circuit for a bit, to get your finger on the pulse again. Many a good idea can come from that !

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who´s your choice in traffic if you bought?

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Klen

Well, i asking because i think i have ADHD , tho i dont have all symptoms . But i do have habit to do impulse actions.

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TheSquealer

I wouldn't worry about ADHD and impulsive behaviors. Impulsive behaviors are also a defining trait of psychopaths. ;)

It's something that is poorly understood and poorly studied in general but massive leaps are made continually in the understanding of it, particularly in recent years.

There are a couple good books on the ADHD by John Ratey who is an authority on the topic. Driven to Distraction and another (can't recall). I read his book "Spark" every few months and he covers ADHD quite a bit in there, neuroscience which underpins it as well and the positive impact of exercise as a treatment. You should check those books out if you're curious about it. Just to understand the many many positive effects of exercise on the brain is well worth reading Spark.

Generally speaking, 30 minutes of moderate cardio each day will dramatically improve your ability to focus and tamp down impulsive behaviors.This is something well tested in schools where grades dramatically improve and conflict/fights dramatically decrease with morning exercise programs and it is something he also covers in detail in Spark.

Paul Markham

This is just another attempt to get back into the biz. It won't work.

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Shap

Really depends on the site. All sites are different and have to be treated and marketed differently

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Feng-PD

I'd be willing to invest if you start a new project shap

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Shap

Thanks I appreciate that

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I would sell. Send me an email.

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Let's talk

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I have a couple good old domains registered from 2000-2010

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Why not build something new fresh from scratch?

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+1 for freshness!!!

the indigo

Paysite, TGP, CJ?

Seriously that's so 2005-2008... even tubes are not worth it, except if you buy a very big one at $500k-1M+

Affiliates are dying. You need a product and hire the media buyer or do it yourself.

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Shap

It was a joke ;)

Colmike9

How about a CPA for porn sites?..

(I know the answers I'll get, just curious..)

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Or how about porn for CPA sites?

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Colmike9

Yeah, that too.

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MrMaxwell

Wait a minute
I think that SHAP has a lot of money
Also I think he is the guy who bites female asses

DukeSkywalker

I was debating on selling, but I thought long and hard and decided to move off my old software and add a few new sites, resume shooting for sites that were good but logistics made them difficult, have about 6 months of 4k content to render for the members area, I will upconvert my old 1080p, I plan on being around another 10 years. I just basicaly said "if it's making money throw money at it to make it better." Going to restaff too. Big plans as they say. We're "The Big Little Company"
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Edit: on a side note no one has money for shit. No one can plunk down 2-2.5 mill. They all want the payment plan. Why get paid with my own salary. I habe yet to encounter an interested buyer who has the money.

MrMaxwell

I would think that someone like SHAP could pay $2,000,000 if he wanted to
I suspect him of possibly having/wanting to borrow a piece of it but he could do a deal like that if you ask me

I'm only guessing though
What do I know

MrMaxwell

Wait a minute
My lack of research (aka thinking( indicates to me that the lion guy might be the one who bites women
But I still think that SHAP could do a deal for some serious money
I would take that guy pretty seriously if I were everyone

Paul Markham

That's the point why sell and get a payment plan that means you get paid with your own money?

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DukeSkywalker

Precisely. I have this down to a fine oiled machine. Shooting content on both coasts. What I makes sells. I just don't have anybody, myself included who really knows wtf they are doing when it comes to actually generating traffic in 2017. I just need to hire someone smarter than me.
But you hit the nail on the head paul. It would need to be like a
Mortgage type thing where i get paid and they deal with the bank. It reminds me of one of the card bangers who wanted to purchase my stuff. They said something like 14k a month and if they miss a payment I get it back. Translation: after they banged every card and ruined my companies name I get it back. My urls are toast, they keep the money, and I start over. I was born at night but not last night

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MrMaxwell

Someone actually made that offer?
I happen to be listening to a couple of laughing Italian guys.. Just record them laughing and send it to who ever made that offer
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Then again if someone was serious and would put one big one down and wanted to finance the rest (and pay more for a time deal), then you might have something worth looking at.. you know?
Otherwise what the fuck even the fuck

MrMaxwell

IT WAS YOU
That's who it was
You were the one
Which reminds me, what ever has happened to ROALD ?

Dirty D

I remember that era well.
The foolish and lazy took the money from the card bangers.
Now those sites have terrible reputations or are completely dead.

14k a month - lol That would have been a huge mistake.

Talk about killing the golden goose.
Millions have been made since that era by the sites that would have been killed.

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Shap

I agree 100% which is probably why so few transactions happen in the industry. I think a smarter move is someone who's been in for too long that wants to take a step back and sells a % of the business to bring in someone who's done it before

Shap

Sound thinking. Valuations are the hardest part of adult the gap between what sellers and buyers think is fair is so big it's often a non conversation.

The Porn Nerd

Evaluations should be based on two things:

1. Revenue (past and current)
2. Potential

It's B that causes all the problems, right? "If my site were optimized it would be worth X million..." LOL

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Shap

Exactly.
- If my site were optimized
- my site makes 10k now but was making 50k and should be making 50k so i want a price based on 50k.
- my site makes 10k but i have 10 years of content that has to be worth something right? Nope (unless it's a content buy).


Realistically potential is what the site will continue to make based on how it is doing now. If the site has been declining at 5% per monht for the last 2 years then it is only reasonable to project it will continue to do that.
If the site has been flat for the last 6 months it's reasonable to assume it will continue to do that.
If the site made 10k a month for 5 of the last 6 months and 100k for one of those months sorry it's more likely and reasonable to assume it will average 10k a month over the next year.

The Porn Nerd

I think those projections and assumptions are wise ones in most cases. But there are exceptions. For example, if the site in question is doing flat or a slight decline but adding no new content (new content would boost those numbers). Or if the site is indeed not 'optimized', meaning no upsells in the MA, no ads on the Tours. Maybe there's no social media presence, maybe the current traffic levels can be lifted by some SEO, etc.

But still, even with all that, a 10-15% bump in current revenue would be the most I would expect if I acquired something and then 'optimized' it.

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MrMaxwell

Wow I thought that you were dead or in prison

MrMaxwell

Can you go buy earnings multiplier or some other conventional metric or is it different in adult?
I personally would trust any adult investment enough to piss sideways on it and put up twenty eight cents BUT if I knew more it might be different

MrMaxwell

HAhahahha
I can only imagine some imbecile trying some of what you mentioned on me
I would tell them THIS AIN'T GRADE SCHOOL
Mental cases

And if it's declining even a LITTLE on a regular basis that often can mean a plummet into the toilets of hell is coming and those happen fast so I would not touch ANY DECLINING ANYTHING even with my neighbor's dick (and I hate that guy)

MrMaxwell

Well you know what you are talking about as far as I remember but you're kind of saying that the sky is blue
Let's say I'm you with your skills and I see a site not optimized and the code is garbage and there's no SEO being done or it sucks - meanwhile the billing page is bouncing idiots and the cascade thing isn't set up right or there's only one processor, right,
Well sure then I could possibly pay more than the metrics tell me to and make good azz coin

It's just like buying a broken or wrecked automobile or house
Sometimes the deal is better because of something being distressed
You know

MrMaxwell

You mean because the guys who own the good stuff won't sell and because most shit for sale is priced too aggressively.. right ?