Paul Markham

Hope they find the idiot and sling his ass in jail. People could have been killed.

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Pretty sure the idiot driving the car was found by paramedics

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Rochard

I saw this on Facebook. It's stunning. It's stunning that anyone - in this case meaning the motorcycle rider - would ever do something like this. Not sure about the driver of the car - not sure if that was a knee jerk reaction or an attempt run the biker off the road.

I've never been this angry that I felt the need to do something like this.

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Looks to be like Mr. Stupid got banged up a bit too ...



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NemesisEnforcer

That's attempted murder right there. The driver of the car is going to lose his license for a while.

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BlackCrayon

motorcycle guy is obviously the instigator. the car wasn't moving fast enough for him so he goes into the curb and kicks the car. the car then swerves into the motorcycle. hard to say if it was on purpose or not because he pulls it back and then fucks it up into the median. motorcycle guy then speeds up and leaves the scene...totally fucking guilty of causing the whole situation and not giving a damn if people are alive or dead.

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Bladewire

Wait what?

The motorcycle put himself in harm's way, kicks a car, the car driver panics, and you think the biker has no fault?

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TimS

Exactly, Motorcycle is in the lane, car cuts into the lane right next to the motorcycle. Motorcycle kicks car, driver tries to kill motorcycle guy. And it is the motorcycles fault, better watch that video again and see who cut who off.

LAJ

Not enough info to determine just how much at fault the biker and the car driver are. Need to know what happened before the biker kicked the car. At the very least the biker deserves jail time and the car driver possibly as well.

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Bladewire

Devil's advocate: guy cuts off motorcycle not knowing motorcycle is there. Motorcycle guy kicks car. Car driver looks over , shocked to see a motorcycle, overcompensates & crashes.

Stupid all around

If your on a motorcycle don't kick a car that can run you over.

If you're in a car, don't try to kill a motorcyclist

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NemesisEnforcer

The video is not the entire story. Before the video rolled, the car cut the motorcycle off.

In the eyes of the law, kicking a car is very different from trying to kill someone with a car. I know someone who went through this.

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blackmonsters

The guy in the car retaliated for the kick and lost control.
He thought he could easily knock the biker down.
There is no way that kicking that car caused anything to happen except stupidity in the car driver.

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Bladewire

I know man, "devil's advocate".

The guy was clearly trying to knock the biker over, very fucked up, on both ends. Kicking a car is not equal to trying to make a bike crash on the freeway.

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Nitzer Ebb

How did it start? Looks like both was upset and other driver began taping.

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CamTraffic

Do you really think the Biker decided he was going to kick the car Door for no reason at all?
Stupid car must have cut him off at some point and that's probably why the Biker is pissed.

People can't drive in the US (and even worse around bikes) i am sorry but the DMV test is a fucking JOKE, they hand out driver Licenses to pretty much anyone that can see

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baddog

Fucking GFY libtards automatically put blame on the biker.

Not a fucking chance that any biker is going to put themself between the car and the wall.

Blind stupidity here; I don't think Rochard is even that dumb.

BlackCrayon

yeah, after watching again its clear the guy cut off the bike but its still no excuse. If i were to kick, punch or chase every car that cut me off or almost hit me or did something stupid i'd be in jail every day practically. for all we know its some senile old man who didn't look to see if anyone was in that lane or whatever and freaked when he finally saw him there.

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I feel bad for the guy in the white truck that flipped over -- he is the only victim here

Bladewire

Poor guy is 73 years old but only has minor injuries.

Amazing how that truck flipped so easily, some kind of design defect?

Speigelau

That was my first thought also. Looking at it a few times, it appears the car picks up speed off the wall and hits the middle/back side of the truck at a decent rate of speed. I think with the car being lower, the impact caused the truck to lift off the ground and if the driver turned the steering wheel at that exact time it could cause it to flip. Seems the car driver was really slow to react with any braking after engaging with the biker.

I'd love to have seen what led up to the biker kicking the car as there was obviously a reason the camera driver decided to focus on them.

Rochard

Are you insane? Listen to yourself here - the car cut off the motorcycle and that gives the right for the motorcycle to physically attack the car?

How many times a week are you cut off when driving your car? Once? Ten times a week? Does that give you the right to hit their car? Assault them? Shoot them? No, of course not. Under no circumstances in the world can you kick or hit someone's car.

The car cut off the motorcycle? At worst that's careless driving. The motorcycle driver kicked a car, caused an accident that destroyed two cars and sent people to the hospital, and then left the scene of a accident - That last one is a felony no matter what.

I'm sorry, but if you are so upset when driving that you feel the need to kick another car - you should NEVER be allowed to drive again.

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Bladewire

Excellent point, the motorcyclist left the scene of an accidental, he broke the law. He's on the freeway kicking cars and leaves the scene of an accidental he helped create. He probably has a warrant for murder or no insurance or something

NemesisEnforcer

Dude, you lack reading comprehension. Nothing to hear, you can read the law yourself.

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the car driver must have cut the biker up to begin with and then to continue the road rage, complete idiot

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Read again grandpa, I don't think you read me well.
I was taking the bikers side.

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leave it to rochard to totally fuck up facts right in front of his eyes. i guess rochard thinks a motorcyclist can kick a car so hard the car veers into the motorcycle. or worse, rochard thinks kicking a car justifies attempted murder.

pretty clear that a) the reason the motorcyclist kicked the car was not on video, so we are working with incomplete facts. this is evident by the cameraman focusing on the interaction between the 2 drivers. something got the cameramans attention.

& b) when the motorcyclist kicked the car, the car clearly retaliated by swerving hard left, attempting to run over the motorcycle. the car driver lost control & wrecked himself & the truck.

the jonny laws are not going to be kind to the driver of that car. he's got a lot of liability on his hands. jonny would also throw the book at the motorcycle for leaving the scene.

also noteworthy how the white truck was passing on the right side, accelerating past 2 cars instead of slowing down like the car in front of the camera. dumbass shoulda hit the brakes.

a lot of stupid driving in that clip. will be played in driving school for years.

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Good thing no major injuries during the accident. The rider should be held liable.

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If a guy on a motorcycle kicks your door, you can do anything you want and it as not your fault if anyone get hurt?

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We don't know what happened before the motorcycle guy kicked the car.

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The TV report said they were looking for the bike rider and the car driver. I couldn't see how the car driver could get out and walk away.

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Bladewire

Why would it be smart, or ok, for him to kick the car at high speeds on a busy freeway?

baddog

I was agreeing with you sonny.

nico-t

exactly. I was reading his post in amazement, not expecting anyone to seriously think like that.

Then i saw the username and it became a bit more logical.

JohnnyNight

Guys on motorcycles = stone cold idiots..

My experience...

bronco67

Whether it was or wasn't an involuntary reaction, he could easily claim that and get away with it. All the biker's fault.

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NemesisEnforcer

Yes we do. The guy that shot the video witnessed what happened then started shooting the video. He made a statement to the media about the incident.

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MrMaxwell

It seems like the biker kicked the car, then the car driver either said FUCK YOU DIE or the car driver said DURRRRRRRR I PANIC
Everyone is a fucking moron these days
Fuck everything

Last time I was in LA on some freeway I see a ford ranger driving along at a normal speed, 75 or so, suddenly swerves into the wall and somehow manages to go almost perfectly head on with the wall, spin around a few times, he comes out of the last spin still moving but moving backward ... then he stops, and slowly drives off down an offramp like nothing ever happened

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Everyone is too stupid to be alive these days and there's no good in humanity
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The rule of gross tonnage applies in a situation like this. Biker + Car = Dead Biker. So it's a wonder the bike rider isn't dead.

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yup just like I told everybody in 2005 that Donny Pauling was a piece of shit and you jerkwads came up with that stuff: Not enough info to determine just how much at fault

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that's my exact experience with BMW's

Vendzilla

Looks like the driver of the car was crossing the double yellow line which as a biker in LA I see all the time, I know that stretch of highway on 14, full of asshole.

It's clearly the drivers fault for putting the life of the biker in jeopardy.

Also I would point out there doesn't seem to be a passenger in the car which makes it illegal for that asshat to even be in the diamond lane in California. Whereas the biker is there legally!

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I have the same question.

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Turns out it was a 19 year old driving the Nissan and a 75 year old driving the Cadillac pick up , Of course the driver of the Nissan has said the biker flashed a knife at him. Very few bikers wear knives in LA as it's illegal in this county.

Guy that shot the video said the two were yelling at each other before this happened and the car was trying to leave the diamond lane. Not once did I see anything about a passenger in the Nissan, which leads me to believe he wasn't even supposed to be in that lane.

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motorcycle driver will be fucked, once they will get him.

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Vendzilla

NO he won't. I lost my best friend to a hit and run 2 years ago, SOB got 1 year after being in this country illegally, killing one person and disabling for life another then leaving the scene.
No deaths here and the guy in the pickup is going to be ok. I'll bet the driver of the car will do far worse for being in a diamond lane with a passenger and causing an accident

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Bladewire

Wow you sure assume ALOT there in favor of the biker. You assume everything in the bikers favor as a matter of fact, how strange

I think it's safe to say the kind of biker that kicks a car at freeway speeds and, felony leaves the scene of an accident, is the same kind of biker to carry a gun or knife, it's likely the reason he fled the scene (aside from any open warrants he likely had)