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Old 06-04-2017, 07:55 AM   #51
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I think it is time for the Muslim community in the UK to speak out strongly, and with credibility, their repudiation of these terrorist actions; as well as assisting law enforcement to arrest and imprison, or deport, any persons their community has knowledge of having hostile intent of committing terrorist acts in the UK.
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I think it is time for the Muslim community in the UK to speak out strongly, and with credibility, their repudiation of these terrorist actions; as well as assisting law enforcement to arrest and imprison, or deport, any persons their community has knowledge of having hostile intent of committing terrorist acts in the UK.
easy said but TO WHERE you deport someone who is born in britain and have a british citizenship?
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I think it is time for the Muslim community in the UK to speak out strongly, and with credibility, their repudiation of these terrorist actions; as well as assisting law enforcement to arrest and imprison, or deport, any persons their community has knowledge of having hostile intent of committing terrorist acts in the UK.
'UNITED AGAINST EXTREMISM' Ahmadiyya Muslim community across Scotland unites to ?strongly condemn? London terror attack
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/new...terror-attack/

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If you were a Brit you would know how important that is. But seriously May will not give out information to the USA anymore, at least not until they have done some investigation, after the last fuck up with the WH leaking info to the press
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easy said but TO WHERE you deport someone who is born in britain and have a british citizenship?
To become a citizen they gave the British Oath of Allegiance to citizenship and they've been found to be breaking that oath and must leave Britain, as must their children:

[name], swear by Almighty God that, on becoming a British citizen, I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth the Second, Her Heirs and Successors according to law."

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"I will give my loyalty to the United Kingdom and respect its rights and freedoms. I will uphold its democratic values. I will observe its laws faithfully and fulfil my duties and obligations as a British citizen."

Break this oath and you're out! Britain needs to act drastically now, change its rules and clean house. Period.
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I think it is time for the Muslim community in the UK to speak out strongly, and with credibility, their repudiation of these terrorist actions
Who or where exactly is this "muslim community" you talk of?
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Pathetic body count for 3 attackers.
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It's thuggery, not even terrorism. "Oh let's run over and stab unarmed people" pathetic humans, religion aside.
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If you were a Brit you would know how important that is. But seriously May will not give out information to the USA anymore, at least not until they have done some investigation, after the last fuck up with the WH leaking info to the press
Iīve been watching the news since last night and the horrific terrorism attack, and iīm amazed at how many of the people stuck in the areas where the knife men were. It seems people were throwing chairs at them, some glasses and bottles, one guy even threw glasses to raise attention so he could run towards the direction of the armed police where the terrorists ran after him & were shot down when they emerged from around the corner...

a lot of brave people here, it shows this wonīt last much longer & people are starting to stand up against terrorism

RIP to all those lives that were lost
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If you were a Brit you would know how important that is. But seriously May will not give out information to the USA anymore, at least not until they have done some investigation, after the last fuck up with the WH leaking info to the press
Probably about 6 quid for a pint in London, can't blame him
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Theresa May: Internet must be regulated to prevent terrorism

Theresa May: Internet must be regulated to prevent terrorism - Jun. 4, 2017

This whole thing could flip around and affect many in this industry. Websites need to be held accountable for what takes place on those sites.

DMCA and the likes are the underplaying cause of most of the worlds issues.
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^^" as well as assisting law enforcement to arrest and imprison, or deport, any persons their community has knowledge of having hostile intent of committing terrorist acts in the UK."

Try to read more carefully pls. You cannot deport citizens. You can *arrest and imprison* persons (citizens) as the law allows -- sedition, conspiracy and the like ... I believe that the UK has revoked the citizenship of some jihadis leaving to join ISIS in Syria and Iraq also.

Every group has a community of some sort -- organizations, spokespersons. Mosques, Religious leaders, business associations, *community groups* Silent acquiesce to these terrorist acts will provoke violence.

If these terrorist attacks were happening in the USA the vigilante acts would be most violent -- guaranteed



No way to know the accuracy of these numbers ...

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23,000 Terror Suspects In United Kingdom Keep Intelligence Agencies Busy

London: Some 23,000 terror suspects may be at large across Britain, the country's intelligence community say after the Manchester attack by a Libyan-origin man who was on the radar of the UK's spy agencies. The scale of the challenge has emerged in the aftermath of the Manchester suicide bombing that killed 22 people and left 119 injured.

Reports that Libyan-origin Salman Abedi had been on the radar of intelligence services had added pressure on the MI5 to reveal what they knew. MI5 or Military Intelligence 5 is a British spy and counter-terrorism agency.

Now government sources have told sections of the British media that they believe 23,000 people with extremist tendencies are living in the UK. Of this, 3,000 people have been judged to pose a threat and are under investigation or active monitoring in 500 operations being run by police and intelligence services.

The 20,000 others have featured in previous inquiries and are categorised as posing a "residual risk". Meanwhile, Greater Manchester Police released CCTV images showing suicide bomber Abedi on the night he attacked Manchester Arena at the end of a US singer Ariana Grande's concert.
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Vilifying the Internet for government failures to protect the citizenry? Talk about stupid ...
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^^" as well as assisting law enforcement to arrest and imprison, or deport, any persons their community has knowledge of having hostile intent of committing terrorist acts in the UK."

Try to read more carefully pls. You cannot deport citizens. You can *arrest and imprison* persons (citizens) as the law allows -- sedition, conspiracy and the like ... I believe that the UK has revoked the citizenship of some jihadis leaving to join ISIS in Syria and Iraq also.

Every group has a community of some sort -- organizations, spokespersons. Mosques, Religious leaders, business associations, *community groups* Silent acquiesce to these terrorist acts will provoke violence.

If these terrorist attacks were happening in the USA the vigilante acts would be most violent -- guaranteed



No way to know the accuracy of these numbers ...
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Theresa May: Internet must be regulated to prevent terrorism - Jun. 4, 2017

This whole thing could flip around and affect many in this industry. Websites need to be held accountable for what takes place on those sites.

DMCA and the likes are the underplaying cause of most of the worlds issues.
Ban internet = problem with islamic terrorists solved!
I even don't know who make damage for people more.
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I think it is time for the Muslim community in the UK to speak out strongly, and with credibility, their repudiation of these terrorist actions; as well as assisting law enforcement to arrest and imprison, or deport, any persons their community has knowledge of having hostile intent of committing terrorist acts in the UK.
they do



Not in our Name: British Muslims Condemn the Barbarity of ISIS | Muslim Council of Britain (MCB)

Muslim Against Terrorism | Muslim Council of Britain (MCB)

Muslim Council of Britain Launches Campaign to Highlight Muslim Condemnation of Terrorism Everywhere | Muslim Council of Britain (MCB)

It's a bit like assuming nutters of any kind about to go on a killing spree share that fact with any sane person... none of them do

Then you have the odd ones that DO know:

Muslim community worker reported Salman Abedi to police five years ago | Metro News

Sad state of affairs. I think all religion is backwards culture tbh, but accept that for the most part religious people don't take it to extremes, problem is, these nutty cunts will just latch onto (see certain posters' here who bring up shit no person alive today had anything to do with), or make something else up, to carry on displaying their hatred of us infidels or whatever the fuck they call us these days.
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I am not advocating rounding up any group of people without cause.

However, everyone has a responsibility of taking lawful actions against persons who present a clear danger to the population at large -- regardless of any hardship they proclaim in defence.

As for the law abiding Muslim *community* these criminals are endangering their own safety and welfare as well -- the Muslim *community* in the UK has a special responsibility to ensure public safety when (and if) they have reasonable knowledge or suspicion of any terrorist act affecting public safety.

Time to man up and take responsibility.
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Britain has allowed scenes like this for years. Yet now we act surprised ????
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And no Merkel, you don't stand shoulder to shoulder with us. You are one of the fucking main problems. You absolute CUNT !!
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Do something about it or shut up. Your hysteria is quite out of line. There's a great concert against extremism going on in Manchester and you're not even acknowledging it.
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I am not advocating rounding up any group of people without cause.

However, everyone has a responsibility of taking lawful actions against persons who present a clear danger to the population at large -- regardless of any hardship they proclaim in defence.

As for the law abiding Muslim *community* these criminals are endangering their own safety and welfare as well -- the Muslim *community* in the UK has a special responsibility to ensure public safety when (and if) they have reasonable knowledge or suspicion of any terrorist act affecting public safety.

Time to man up and take responsibility.
You know the tides are a changing when even Barry is mentioning rounding up people. How many more attacks before people are burning down every rotten mosque there?
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Do something about it or shut up. Your hysteria is quite out of line. There's a great concert against extremism going on in Manchester and you're not even acknowledging it.
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I sat and watched every fucking minute of it.

And what exactly do you mean about "do something about it ??"

I never let the cunts in...
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Your hysteria is quite out of line.
I just sat with my wife who cried for 3hrs during that concert.

But i am out of line ? You are a fucking idiot!
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I just sat with my wife who cried for 3hrs during that concert.

But i am out of line ? You are a fucking idiot!
Posting anti muslim propoganda doesn't help anything. Their are 2.8 million muslims in the U.K. if even 1% of those were extremists you'd have 28,000 people on the streets suicide bombing and stabbing people get a grip on yourself.
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Posting anti muslim propoganda doesn't help anything. Their are 2.8 million muslims in the U.K. if even 1% of those were extremists you'd have 28,000 people on the streets suicide bombing and stabbing people get a grip on yourself.
Fuck you. They are all extremists, we just don't know it yet.
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Posting anti muslim propoganda doesn't help anything. Their are 2.8 million muslims in the U.K. if even 1% of those were extremists you'd have 28,000 people on the streets suicide bombing and stabbing people get a grip on yourself.
So what is it i've "to do" about it ??
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Remember. 3 attacks in 3 months. 5 other attacks during that same timescale were foiled...
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Posting anti muslim propoganda doesn't help anything. Their are 2.8 million muslims in the U.K. if even 1% of those were extremists you'd have 28,000 people on the streets suicide bombing and stabbing people get a grip on yourself.
Clearly all muslims are not the problem, not even 1% , but someone has to clearly spell that out obviously.
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same way it was fixed with noth ireland. and that was NOT the radical way!
And how do you think that process would solve matters?

Getting around a table with every Muslim terrorist group and giving them what they want will reward the terrorists and inspire more.

What do you think ISIS, Al Qaeda and Boko Harem would settle for?

This is the delusional world people like you and Corbyn live in.
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the Beeb interviewed an eyewitness who said in direct terms that they looked muslim, after he had finished talking, the anchor said that the eyewitness said they were "eastern" looking, they guy said nothing of the sort, he only said they were muslim looking.
Not only did they look Muslim, they are Muslim.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...in-east-london
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i canīt help you if you do not understand "my way" - is is not a radical way but a longterm.

if you arenīt intelligent enough to understand that, donīt blame me - blame your father and mother for it.
Most of us aren't intelligent enough to understand how much the terrorist would accept before they gave up killing innocent people. Maybe you could offer some advice. What do you think it would take to stop ISIS killing other Muslims in Muslim countries? Because until that's stopped terrorists doing it in non-Muslim countries will carry on.
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easy said but TO WHERE you deport someone who is born in britain and have a british citizenship?
Now you're starting to understand the problem with mass migration. The parents of the Manchester bomber were Libyan Terrorists, the Boston bombers were sons of migrant Muslims.

And your solution is?
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I think it is time for the Muslim community in the UK to speak out strongly, and with credibility, their repudiation of these terrorist actions; as well as assisting law enforcement to arrest and imprison, or deport, any persons their community has knowledge of having hostile intent of committing terrorist acts in the UK.
I think you should study the problem more.

Most Muslims deny that the Muslim terrorists are Muslims, while the Muslim terrorists say the non-violent ones aren't real Muslims.

Islam is a fragmented religion, today more Muslims will kill other Muslims trying to eradicate the other sect. Think back to the times of 16th Century Europe when the Nation States waged wars on each other because they worshipped god a different way. This is similar.
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Vilifying the Internet for government failures to protect the citizenry? Talk about stupid ...
Same could be said forthe UAS and gun control. vilifying the media for government failures to protect the citizenry? Talk about stupid ...
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Same could be said forthe UAS and gun control. vilifying the media for government failures to protect the citizenry? Talk about stupid ...
Oh you mean the gun rights people that think those on the terrorist watchlist should be able to buy a gun?
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This is why people who believe this problem can be dealt with by talking of appeasing the Muslim community are dangerous.

These Muslims are free to live in any Muslim country where their religion rules and their cultures are adhered to. They choose to live in the UK and demand special treatment, they want to be governed by Sharia law, want the police to give them special treatment that's not given to non-Muslims. They demanded a non-Muslim dress as they do because Muslim men are more likely to rape Western dressed women.

People like Jeremy Corbyn and Thommy want to appease them, what will the Muslims accept before they stop their murder of innocent people?
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This is why people who believe this problem can be dealt with by talking of appeasing the Muslim community are dangerous.

These Muslims are free to live in any Muslim country where their religion rules and their cultures are adhered to. They choose to live in the UK and demand special treatment, they want to be governed by Sharia law, want the police to give them special treatment that's not given to non-Muslims. They demanded a non-Muslim dress as they do because Muslim men are more likely to rape Western dressed women.

People like Jeremy Corbyn and Thommy want to appease them, what will the Muslims accept before they stop their murder of innocent people?
holy shit paul there was like 20 people in that parade! oh shit what a good point you made...invasion = confirmed...

1 ginger guy with "shariah zone" stickers = londonistan
20 people in a parade doing anything at all = invasion

100.000 brits starving 80.000.000 indians = prosperity and glory for the empire
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Now you're starting to understand the problem with mass migration. The parents of the Manchester bomber were Libyan Terrorists, the Boston bombers were sons of migrant Muslims.

And your solution is?
i told you many time that i do not have a solution. at least not one what will work overnight.

i just know that YOUR solution will not work because it will breed more terrorists.
the majority of them still donīt hate us or is even in the near to become a terrorist but if you show the how e hate them - they are becomming more and more.

muslim terrorists are not even born muslims anymore. in US-jails there are thousands of american prisoneers converting to a form of islam what has nothing to do with islam but a lot with hate and terror.

ireland was not a religious war - the words "catholic" and "protestant" have only being used to define regions where the one or the other was the majority.

imagine if that issue would have been discussed and treated the same way.
protestants and catolics all over the world would be hunted for that and all of them would be terrorists today.

if you really go deep into this problem it will hit back to us - the west.
we are the ones who made money with provocating wars, selling weapons and use their internal conflict.
muslim terror was not a big issue before afganistan. and that war in afganistan was
finally a war between russia and the US - fought by local citizens.

everyone who thinks the problem can be resolved by throwing all of them in one pot is doing EXACTLY what the terrorist wants.
the want that we hate them all because this is the guarantee that ALL of them will hate us back one day.

all this haters here and all over the world who think that islam is the problem are already used to be promoters for terrorism. they made you to their tools and you are working FOR THEM and not against them.
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Britain has allowed scenes like this for years. Yet now we act surprised ????
britain brought this people in their own country. it was NOT the EU or merkel.
99% of muslims are there because britain made them part of their glory empire.
THEY made them british NOT MERKEL you dumb.

i would not wonder if this attackers had british passports and are born in britain as the most attackers before.
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Oh you mean the gun rights people that think those on the terrorist watchlist should be able to buy a gun?
No I mean the lack of control the US has over who can buy guns. Muslim terrorists are the least of your problems.
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i told you many time that i do not have a solution. at least not one what will work overnight.

i just know that YOUR solution will not work because it will breed more terrorists.
the majority of them still donīt hate us or is even in the near to become a terrorist but if you show the how e hate them - they are becomming more and more.

muslim terrorists are not even born muslims anymore. in US-jails there are thousands of american prisoneers converting to a form of islam what has nothing to do with islam but a lot with hate and terror.

ireland was not a religious war - the words "catholic" and "protestant" have only being used to define regions where the one or the other was the majority.

imagine if that issue would have been discussed and treated the same way.
protestants and catolics all over the world would be hunted for that and all of them would be terrorists today.

if you really go deep into this problem it will hit back to us - the west.
we are the ones who made money with provocating wars, selling weapons and use their internal conflict.
muslim terror was not a big issue before afganistan. and that war in afganistan was
finally a war between russia and the US - fought by local citizens.

everyone who thinks the problem can be resolved by throwing all of them in one pot is doing EXACTLY what the terrorist wants.
the want that we hate them all because this is the guarantee that ALL of them will hate us back one day.

all this haters here and all over the world who think that islam is the problem are already used to be promoters for terrorism. they made you to their tools and you are working FOR THEM and not against them.
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i canīt help you if you do not understand "my way" - is is not a radical way but a longterm.

if you arenīt intelligent enough to understand that, donīt blame me - blame your father and mother for it.
Because you're clearly not intelligent enough.

If you don't have a solution, stop trying to offer one

My solution would be to apply very strict migration policies, ban Muslim schools, spread the existing UK-based Muslims more evenly around the UK so they have to integrate and any Muslim who wants to live by Sharia Law, offer them a plane ticket to a Muslim country of their choice.

Because the current liberal policy isn't working. As for your comment about Afghanistan, what time in the Afghanistan history are you referring to?

Your comments on the Irish troubles also reveals your complete ignorance of that situation.

Islam is all about converting or dominating by force non-Muslims, or killing them.

https://www.politicalislam.com/shari...r-5-the-kafir/

47:4 When you encounter the Kafirs on the battlefield, cut off their heads until you have thoroughly defeated them and then take the prisoners and tie them up firmly.

8:12 Then your Lord spoke to His angels and said, ?I will be with you. Give strength to the believers. I will send terror into the Kafirs? hearts, cut off their heads and even the tips of their fingers!?

The Quran's Verses of Violence

Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."

Quran (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward."

Quran (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks."

The problem is liberal attitudes gloss over the facts. Muslims don't want to mix fully with other Muslims. This is the root of all the problems, until Mohammed they were a tribal people who were constantly at war with each other. He tried to put them under one religion after he died they immediately split into Shia and Sunni. That split has gone even further with sub-sects trying to dominate others. The Baath sub-sect in Iraq is an excellent example. He set out to slaughter as many opponents as possible, often those opponents were opposing sub-sects of Islam trying to topple him.

Muslims can't integrate with other Muslims, so any hope of them integrating with non-Muslims is a stupid delusion.
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