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Old 06-02-2017, 05:07 PM   #1
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?WikiLeaks? Vault 7 cache shows US ? not Russia ? hacked past French elections?


Any establishment-anointed political candidate wants to say they are under attack by the Russians because it gives them credibility, former MI5 intelligence officer Annie Machon told RT. Political analyst Adam Garrie joins the discussion.

Guillaume Poupard, the head of the National Cybersecurity Agency of France (ANSSI), said on Thursday there's no trace of a Russian hacking group being behind the attack on Emmanuel Macron's presidential election campaign.

According to him, the hack was ?so generic and simple that it could have been practically anyone.?

RT: Where does this statement by France's cybersecurity chief leave the claims of Macron's team on Russian hacking?

Annie Machon: It leaves rather a lot of egg on their faces. It appears that this attack was of such of low technical level it could have been done by a script kiddie from their mom?s basement. So rather than this hysteria about: ?The Russians must have done it, the Russians must have done it,? which reminds me to a certain extent of the Monty Python script that ?you must always expect a Spanish Inquisition.? It is beyond parody. We have a situation now where he was trying to make political hay. It seems to me that any establishment-anointed political candidate now wants to immediately say they are under attack by the Russians because it gives them credibility. It is just crazy.

Now, the one thing we do know from this is that the one country that actually has hacked the French election was the USA, and that was back in the presidential election of 2012 where they were not only intercepting the electronic communications, they were actually running human agents in the political parties. We know this because of disclosures through the Vault 7 cache that WikiLeaks put out a month or two ago. For everyone to go around blaming the Russians, when in fact the Americans have been doing this for years, is rather rich?

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More WeHateAmerica lies
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Of course the best of all CIA intervention was stealing the USSR's Luna 1 satellite "because drunk Russians"... The best part was your guys never even knew we did it, until the operation was declassified..


The CIA's Bold Kidnapping of a Soviet Spacecraft | Popular Science

Then again of course the US sinking the Kursk would be honorable mention.
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Of course the best of all CIA intervention was stealing the USSR's Luna 1 satellite "because drunk Russians"... The best part was your guys never even knew we did it, until the operation was declassified..


The CIA's Bold Kidnapping of a Soviet Spacecraft | Popular Science

Then again of course the US sinking the Kursk would be honorable mention.
or the serbs shooting down your stealth fighter with a 60-s russian missile and giving the parts to every commie country they could...for detailed study

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or the serbs shooting down your stealth fighter with a 60-s russian missile and giving the parts to every commie country they could...for detailed study
This is how the F-117A was shot down in Serbia by a SA-3 (S-75) Goa SAM in 1999 | - Defence Aviation
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or the serbs shooting down your stealth fighter with a 60-s russian missile and giving the parts to every commie country they could...for detailed study

You do realize the F117-A is retired, has been for several years now. They are only in museums where anyone can go touch them photograph them whatever, I have done it. It first flew in 1978. Ok got that? How many years ago was this cutting edge stealth jet developed? 39 years ago. Wow, they shot down a jet that was developed in 1977 at skunkworks in washington. Funny thing is nobody can build one NOW that can equal the stealth of a 40 year old jet. Just imagine the capability of the B3 they are making now or the F-22 which itself is amazing and also almost 20 years old. They most likely have operation versions now of even newer aircraft we just don't get to know it. Hell they didn't reveal the f117 until desert storm 13 years after they were built.
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This article is strange, they are basically saying it was such an amateur effort it's laughable. They have egg on their face? How are they not the ones with egg on their face for allowing such a low level attacker or script kiddie as they refer to it. To be capable of hacking into their secure email system? Is the french security apparatus THAT terrible? I know the military is laughable but I though their intel made up for a lot of that like the the UK does.
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You do realize the F117-A is retired, has been for several years now. They are only in museums where anyone can go touch them photograph them whatever, I have done it. It first flew in 1978. Ok got that? How many years ago was this cutting edge stealth jet developed? 39 years ago. Wow, they shot down a jet that was developed in 1977 at skunkworks in washington. Funny thing is nobody can build one NOW that can equal the stealth of a 40 year old jet. Just imagine the capability of the B3 they are making now or the F-22 which itself is amazing and also almost 20 years old. They most likely have operation versions now of even newer aircraft we just don't get to know it. Hell they didn't reveal the f117 until desert storm 13 years after they were built.
serbs shot down your then 20 year old plane that had just debuted after iraq, with a russian missile from the 60-s...every single part was photographed, taken apart, analyzed and passed on left and right to any country that asked...the tech is not that cutting edge and others countries economies do not rely on invasion so much so nobody there was no need for others to build these offensive weapons...
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>?WikiLeaks? Vault 7 cache shows US ? not Russia ? hacked past French elections?
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You got educated about that on CNN
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Got to hand it to him, it's Same place Putin got the idea to hack the election

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I believe that WeHatePorn is neither anti American or pro Russian. Simply he or she enjoys pointing out the fact that North Americans are quite ignorant to what is really happening in our countries and around the world.

The only true enemy is ourselves as we keep our heads in the sand, and clearly allow our government via the media (which is no longer neutral, and only self serving) to shape our opinions and herd us like sheep.

We have the power to change everything we are not happy with, including removing our politicians. We deserve everything that will happen to us.
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People who break the law by hacking.... Have no morals and values. And cannot be trusted.

Clearly Wikileaks cannot be trusted; They are posting stolen information. They are criminals.
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Clearly Wikileaks cannot be trusted; They are posting stolen information. They are criminals.


These Hollywood types have thought themselves more important than they really are
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serbs shot down your then 20 year old plane that had just debuted after iraq, with a russian missile from the 60-s...every single part was photographed, taken apart, analyzed and passed on left and right to any country that asked...the tech is not that cutting edge and others countries economies do not rely on invasion so much so nobody there was no need for others to build these offensive weapons...
Meanwhile none of those countries has been able to make a working stealth fighter from our 20 year old (at the time) wreckage..

It's like NK keeps sending up missiles that fail over and over again like we were still in the 1950's trying to figure out how to make rockets work.. Meanwhile just this week we launched a missile and intercepted it with a second missile.. Just to show we could.. lol

Hell you could probably DIY a fucking rocket by watching youtube videos but guess NK can't get youtube..
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People who break the law by hacking.... Have no morals and values. And cannot be trusted.

Clearly Wikileaks cannot be trusted; They are posting stolen information. They are criminals.
I am not worried about if it is legal, I just want the truth, seems the truth is illegal
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I believe that WeHatePorn is neither anti American or pro Russian. Simply he or she enjoys pointing out the fact that North Americans are quite ignorant to what is really happening in our countries and around the world.

The only true enemy is ourselves as we keep our heads in the sand, and clearly allow our government via the media (which is no longer neutral, and only self serving) to shape our opinions and herd us like sheep.

We have the power to change everything we are not happy with, including removing our politicians. We deserve everything that will happen to us.
wehateporn believes the moon landings were faked, that Jews or the US govt did 9/11 as an inside job.. He thought that airliner that was shot down in Ukraine was a false flag and the people were taken off the flight before it was shot down.. He thinks every mass shooting and the victims are just "crisis actors".. This list can go on and on about all the nutty shit he posts here..

but yeah.. he's the guy who wants to point out "Americans are ignorant.." Sorry it's hard to point out someone is ignorant if you are a crazy in the head.
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Clearly Wikileaks cannot be trusted; They are posting stolen information. They are criminals.
People yes. But stolen information have some values.
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Clearly Wikileaks cannot be trusted; They are posting stolen information. They are criminals.
Richard, I agree with you on this statement 1 million percent.

Do you believe that the US as a government has never hacked or obtained information illegally?
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wehateporn believes the moon landings were faked, that Jews or the US govt did 9/11 as an inside job.. He thought that airliner that was shot down in Ukraine was a false flag and the people were taken off the flight before it was shot down.. He thinks every mass shooting and the victims are just "crisis actors".. This list can go on and on about all the nutty shit he posts here..

but yeah.. he's the guy who wants to point out "Americans are ignorant.." Sorry it's hard to point out someone is ignorant if you are a crazy in the head.
Crockett, WeHatePorn is not alone. Outside of USA and Canada there are billions of people who share the same thoughts, and question the circumstances and events.

I for one was no where near the moon at the time of the claimed first landing by Aldrin, Collins, and Armstrong. So I cannot say for certain. I can only hope it was true, and with blind Faith be proud of the accomplishment.
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Crockett, WeHatePorn is not alone. Outside of USA and Canada there are billions of people who share the same thoughts, and question the circumstances and events.

I for one was no where near the moon at the time of the claimed first landing by Aldrin, Collins, and Armstrong. So I cannot say for certain. I can only hope it was true, and with blind Faith be proud of the accomplishment.

Billions hes says.. ok so I see you are also a nutter.. Jesus seek help, quit watching Alex Jones your brain is rotten..
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serbs shot down your then 20 year old plane that had just debuted after iraq, with a russian missile from the 60-s...every single part was photographed, taken apart, analyzed and passed on left and right to any country that asked...the tech is not that cutting edge and others countries economies do not rely on invasion so much so nobody there was no need for others to build these offensive weapons...
Ok so ONE F117 in the history 30+ of usage in combat. ONE was shot down, I'll take that any day over some piece of shit chinese copy or Russian copy of the F-22 that was stolen from Northrop. They only got the outside design though, so the radar signature is shit, HUGE compared to a bird size for the F-22. Plus no IR deflection. Apparently they didn't learn a damn thing from our now 40 year old technology.

LOL you're russian right? You would steal every piece of advanced military hardware you could and build the shit out of it. You can't though, or Putin wouldn't be using bear bombers from 1950 to skirt Alaska LOL. The tech is now not cutting edge to US, no. To the Russians and Chinese yeah they still can't build one as good as our now retired 40 year old fleet.
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that Jews or the US govt did 9/11 as an inside job..
I never said the Jews bit, I couldn't care less about the race or religion of those who organized 9/11. 1000's of Architects and Engineers are on my side.

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He thought that airliner that was shot down in Ukraine was a false flag
Haven't reached a clear conclusion on this, but something smelt bad, I suspect a military jet was using the passenger jet for cover, which then made the Russians accidentally shoot it down, seems like a trap the Russians fell into

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He thinks every mass shooting and the victims are just "crisis actors"
Boston and Sandy Hook appear to have had crisis actors, there is strong evidence, but you'll only believe it if CNN tell you

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but yeah.. he's the guy who wants to point out "Americans are ignorant.."
Plenty of Americans agree with me on all that, so they are not ignorant, but people who believe everything CNN tell them without questioning are brainwashed and naive. One day I hope these people wake up, many eventually do, most of us started off brainwashed too, until we took a few red pills
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Billions hes says.. ok so I see you are also a nutter.. Jesus seek help, quit watching Alex Jones your brain is rotten..
You are the religious one here, you follow what CNN says without question, if CNN built a church you would pray there
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Ok so ONE F117 in the history 30+ of usage in combat. ONE was shot down, I'll take that any day over some piece of shit chinese copy or Russian copy of the F-22 that was stolen from Northrop. They only got the outside design though, so the radar signature is shit, HUGE compared to a bird size for the F-22. Plus no IR deflection. Apparently they didn't learn a damn thing from our now 40 year old technology.

LOL you're russian right? You would steal every piece of advanced military hardware you could and build the shit out of it. You can't though, or Putin wouldn't be using bear bombers from 1950 to skirt Alaska LOL. The tech is now not cutting edge to US, no. To the Russians and Chinese yeah they still can't build one as good as our now retired 40 year old fleet.
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They may drive on muddy roads with potholes, cant produce any car
or can't produce agriculture
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Old 06-04-2017, 06:00 AM   #37
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you serious ? Russians have one of the most advanced space and air technologies...
They may drive on muddy roads with potholes, cant produce any car
or can't produce agriculture
yet they are advanced in space/ air / missile technologies.
and yeah, I'm serious about that.
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Old 06-04-2017, 07:43 AM   #38
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You are the religious one here, you follow what CNN says without question, if CNN built a church you would pray there
LoL I don't even have cable TV, haven't had it in over 4 years..meanwhile your posts exactly mimic what's posted on Infowars and rt.. but everyone else is sheep....
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Of course it was



I never said the Jews bit, I couldn't care less about the race or religion of those who organized 9/11. 1000's of Architects and Engineers are on my side.



Haven't reached a clear conclusion on this, but something smelt bad, I suspect a military jet was using the passenger jet for cover, which then made the Russians accidentally shoot it down, seems like a trap the Russians fell into



Boston and Sandy Hook appear to have had crisis actors, there is strong evidence, but you'll only believe it if CNN tell you



Plenty of Americans agree with me on all that, so they are not ignorant, but people who believe everything CNN tell them without questioning are brainwashed and naive. One day I hope these people wake up, many eventually do, most of us started off brainwashed too, until we took a few red pills
Amazing how everything involving the US is a giant conspiracy but Russia never does anything wrong.

So how long has Putin been paying you to post this horsehit? You've been at it for year you must be in the special troll forces by now...
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Of course it was

I never said the Jews bit, I couldn't care less about the race or religion of those who organized 9/11. 1000's of Architects and Engineers are on my side.

Haven't reached a clear conclusion on this, but something smelt bad, I suspect a military jet was using the passenger jet for cover, which then made the Russians accidentally shoot it down, seems like a trap the Russians fell into

Boston and Sandy Hook appear to have had crisis actors, there is strong evidence, but you'll only believe it if CNN tell you

Plenty of Americans agree with me on all that, so they are not ignorant, but people who believe everything CNN tell them without questioning are brainwashed and naive. One day I hope these people wake up, many eventually do, most of us started off brainwashed too, until we took a few red pills
You're just another foreigner that hates America.

Your Visa was likely denied or you were kicked out for being a loser and sent back to the shithole you're in now, so, as usual, on a daily basis here, you jump on any bandwagon that says anything negative about America.

Every single day you create at least 2 negative threads about America & American culture, and you don't live here!

You're obsessed with hating America, every single day, all day, it's not natural for a normal person.
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A pro russian troll using info from a pro russian site.....fake news
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They haven't adapted at all, they think last year's tricks are still fresh and nobody knows what their agenda is
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They haven't adapted at all, they think last year's tricks are still fresh and nobody knows what their agenda is

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LoL I don't even have cable TV, haven't had it in over 4 years..meanwhile your posts exactly mimic what's posted on Infowars and rt.. but everyone else is sheep....
You haven't been paying enough attention, I have outed Infowars as being a Zionist front. RT is fairly good, but they won't tell you Russia's own problems.

Just because you can't afford cable TV anymore doesn't mean you can't access CNN headline news online, you expect us to believe you are spontaneously thinking up the same Globalist propaganda as them within 15 minutes, all a coincidence.
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Amazing how everything involving the US is a giant conspiracy but Russia never does anything wrong.

So how long has Putin been paying you to post this horsehit? You've been at it for year you must be in the special troll forces by now...
If Russia is doing anything wrong, they are covering their tracks well, but mainly they are on the defensive against Western Globalists. If they do something you see as bad, it was probably as self-defense against Western aggression.

After the 9/11 false flag the majority of people in the world no longer trust the Western controlled media or their fictional warmongering narratives

I'd happily take money from Putin, he is a hero of mine,though probably shouldn't as it might not be good for my health.
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You're just another foreigner that hates America.

Your Visa was likely denied or you were kicked out for being a loser and sent back to the shithole you're in now, so, as usual, on a daily basis here, you jump on any bandwagon that says anything negative about America.

Every single day you create at least 2 negative threads about America & American culture, and you don't live here!

You're obsessed with hating America, every single day, all day, it's not natural for a normal person.
I don't like having to keep repeating myself, it is Globalists I don't like, those who support them like you are bringing the destruction of America closer, I am a nationalist, so I have more in common with those who love your country than you do.
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Richard, I agree with you on this statement 1 million percent.

Do you believe that the US as a government has never hacked or obtained information illegally?
Do I believe the US as a government has never hacked or obtained information illegally? I have no idea and frankly I don't fucking care. I honestly don't care.

We all bitch about information and privacy while the reality is we've turned everything over to Google and our cell phone companies. They track everything we do - everywhere we go, every search we make, every photo we take, every call, every email, every text.

This morning I worked on setting up my Android phone to automatically upload photos to my google drive. It's all geo tagged.
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If Russia is doing anything wrong, they are covering their tracks well, but mainly they are on the defensive against Western Globalists. If they do something you see as bad, it was probably as self-defense against Western aggression.

After the 9/11 false flag the majority of people in the world no longer trust the Western controlled media or their fictional warmongering narratives

I'd happily take money from Putin, he is a hero of mine,though probably shouldn't as it might not be good for my health.
They didn't cover their tracks at all. We know EXACTLY who hacked, when they did it, and how. And you better believe there is a lot our government isn't telling us.
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They didn't cover their tracks at all. We know EXACTLY who hacked, when they did it, and how. And you better believe there is a lot our government isn't telling us.

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