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Washington Post: Kushner proposed secret communication channel with Kremlin - CNNPolitics.com


Washington (CNN)President Donald Trump's son-in-law and trusted aide Jared Kushner may have discussed creating a secret communications channel between the Trump transition team and the Kremlin with Russia's ambassador Sergei Kislyak, The Washington Post reported Friday, citing US officials briefed on intelligence reports.

The claim comes from intercepts of conversations between Russia's ambassador and Moscow.
Kislyak reportedly told higher-ups in Moscow that Kushner suggested the proposal in a meeting at Trump Tower -- which former national security adviser Michael Flynn also attended -- in December. Kushner "suggested using Russian diplomatic facilities in the United States for the communications," the Post reported.
However, Washington Post reporter Adam Entous said there is a chance that Russia could have intentionally exaggerated what happened in the meeting.
"Kislyak has a good reputation in terms of the accuracy of his reporting, according to the officials that I've talked to," Entous, one of three reporters who wrote the article, told CNN's Pamela Brown on Friday. "That being said, ... adversaries to the United States routinely put false information into their communications. Sometimes they do so in order to see if the Americans are in that channel."
CNN has not yet confirmed the Post's report.

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Bladewire

It's all unraveling

This is their backchannel

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crockett

Yea this is pretty fucking damning shit. He wanted to use the Russian's special communication equipment inside the Russian embassy to talk directly with the Kremlin.


This dumb fuck will go down faster than Flynn... Trump just put his son in law in jail.. What a bunch of arogant fucks the Trump admin is, complete lunacy..

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Bladewire

Look what else dropped today Breaking! Former Russian Trump aide seeks immunity deal to testify before Congress Forum

Joshua G

washington post huh?

...like dogs on a leash...dumb libs.

Sarn

> Washington Post: Kushner proposed secret communication channel with Kremlin
And what there happined? All contacts under secret canals used

bronco67

Nothing to see here really. Perfectly innocent.

They have lots of things to talk about.

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Sarn

+1

Rochard

The White House has a direct line to the Russian government. Why would they need a secret line of communications?

This is treason at this point.

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Sarn

different levels communication

shiraz9944

Seriously Rochard? JFK used his brother RFK the attorney general at the time (talk about having family in your admin?) to use a backchannel to that had a direct line to the Russian ambassador, so they could propose removing jupiter missiles from Turkey in exchange for removing missiles from Cuba. They did this communication at dinner in Washington, not a classified direct line to the Kremlin. This way they could avoid any public embarrassment for caving to our demands and we avoided WW3 because of it.

back channels are very important in getting things done between low level staffers so they can avoid public embarrassment.

BUT in this particular case. I have defended Trump and is staff to the hilt and I do still defend most of his staff and to a certain extent him but he's letting his family ties get in the way of governing right. Kushner is definitely insane for doing this, it is a terrible breach of national security to use the OTHER guys comms to establish a channel. He can be recorded and monitored, blackmailed later. Plus this is a HIGH level staffer not a low level one and it's a direct line not a true back channel thru a reporter or another staffer somewhere else. They are in trouble, Donald is gonna get himself in trouble if he keeps Kushner in the WH. I think he is a true spy at this point. He needs to be removed now.

RedFred

Comparing staving off nuclear holocaust to treason. Classic!

Rochard

There is a MASSIVE difference between a back channel and a secret channel no one else in the government knows about.

If the President of the United States wants a "back channel" to Putin, he calls the CIA and tells them to set up a back channel - similar to what JFK did. You surely do not, under any circumstances, set up a back channel that bypasses the intelligence community.

Sorry, Jared lied about his Russian contacts. His security clearance needs to be removed. Immediately. Sessions too. If you cannot properly fill out a fucking form you cannot have security clearance.

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Joshua G

WaPost is turning their fake news artillery on jared because he is their enemy. that makes him our friend.

i am more inclined to believe Reince is the mole. he is a ryan flunky. jared is a donald protege: the son of a wealthy father, just like donald was. Donald sees himself in Jared, groping ivanka. Jared is trump royalty, & immune.

so if jared really is the mole, trump is going to have endless chaos.

crockett

They were not even in the WH when he did this. This corresponds with the time period Obama was busy putting sanctions on Russia for interference with the elections.

Kushner has violated the Logan act because he is not a govt official and was not authorized by the Obama admin to make any sort of dealings or contacts on behalf of the US govt.

When Bobby Kennedy had back line contact with Russia during the Cuban Missile Crisis he was authorized to do so by the active president.

Trump was not sworn in when Kushner was talking to Russians so he broke the law. Trump would be free to have him talk to Russians now, but he was breaking the law at that point..

He will probably go to jail over this considering all the other Russian shit added on top..

Sarn

CIA and FBI make leaks in media. Nothing new why Trump not trust them.

Bladewire

They don't trust Trump because they have Intel on him and know he's corrupted, that's why they leak. Trump is busted

Sarn

Yes they work against own President, but traitor Trump
Good KGB work

shiraz9944

No the intel community does not know about a back channel, that's the point smarty. It's a BACK CHANNEL.........RFK told his friend who was a reporter for the post, who was friends with the Russian Ambassador. He had him relay the message to AVOID the scrutiny of the intel agencies. Also how do you know this wasn't a back channel? Do you know what they discussed? Please enlighten us since you know. OH you don't know? Then what are we discussing here? HC campaign aides had multiple meetings with the Russians as well, let's dig into those some. No we don't need to because they were simply the same thing. If he wanted to really be sneaky and unnoticed he wouldn't have gone to the russians and asked for anything. He would have simply used an app like signal or Wire on a prepaid burner SIM, on a new cheap phone and arranged a meeting that way, with no record of it anywhere. It would have been impossible for the US intel community or anyone to know he was doing it except the Russians he was speaking to directly. No he went publicly not hiding anything and met with them. Until you know what was discussed it is simply speculation. Nothing more. You are innocent, it's on the gov't to provide PROOF, not "contact" or "possible collusion". What the fuck does that mean anyway possible collusion? It could be anyone meaning anything LOL.

shiraz9944

So what happens to all the Podesta people that met with the Russians on the record before the election? They were not officials either, but their transition teams met with the Russians on at least 3 occasions documented. Do they go to jail too?

Joshua G

of course not. dumb libs only get outraged at GOP dirt. when hilary does uranium deal with russians that puts a few million in her bank, dumb libs dont care...because the liberal media doesn't tell them to care.

look at rochard...reading liberal lies & sounding off here like he knows what jared did. what a dumb dupe.

Barry-xlovecam

Improper but maybe not so sinister? False News spin?

Kushner proposed back channel with Russia involving policy toward Syria, source says - LA Times

then;
This is why there needs to be an unhampered investigation towards determining the facts.

crockett

The facts are he did it with out authority and he didn't disclose it AND it was more than one time.. This wasn't his only non disclosure about meeting Russians. His security clearance should immediately be removed pending this investigation. Sessions should be removed from the DOJ end of story both of these fucks lied and attempted to cover up their meetings.

You might be able to say oh hey they didn't do it purposely "IF" there were ZERO other issues with-in the Trump transition team and no other connection to Russia as example. However the Trump admin was already under fire for connections to Russia and "KNOWING" that they choose to hide and not disclose these meetings..

They are both unfit for their security clearances. Anyone else would have theirs removed.

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Rochard

That's even WORSE. If they tried to work a deal with the Russians before they were in the White House and officially in power, that's illegal.

This is insane.

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Rochard

Why would anyone need back channels when you have direct communications?

You don't seem to understand what this is about. This isn't about Jared going to the Russian ambassador and have a quick little discussion. This is about Jared going to a secure Russian building and using their secret communications equipment.

Why would ANYONE in our government need to do that?

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Sarn

Because it is one secure place without leaks for safty work
It most high secret level, than have cia and fbi.

Barry-xlovecam

The date is the real problem. Anything to hit the ground running is more business than political. "He's rich and a businessman -- Trump will get things done" WRONG

Sarn

why all who know how need to do - lose election? but guy who nothing know win

Bladewire

Treason

Obstruction of Justice

Colluding With the Enemy!



A criminal investigation is underway. The FBI & DOJ switch to a criminal investigation for a reason

crockett

..and that's why we found out about it..

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Phoenix

I do not understand the legality of all this. They were in transition and this guy wanted to create a back channel to be able to speak to another foreign power?

So, are they not allowed? I would think having direct contact would be a good thing for them? The ability to reach out to a foreign power directly should be good for moving forward and being able to solve issues before they get messy.

I do not know the rules though. Are they mandated to use specific channels?

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Rochard

The ability to reach out to a foreign power directly is a great idea. And they have that. It's called a telephone. The White House can reach out instantly to anyone in the Russian government.

The problem is they wanted to do it secretly in a way so that no one else in the US government would know. Keeping it on the down low like prison sex is one thing, but when you do it so that the intelligence community will not know about it, well, that's just damn odd.

What's even worse was how they wanted to do it... Jared wanted to use secure Russian communications gear i a secure Russian facility in the United States.

The ONLY reason they would need to do this is if the Trump administration was taking orders from Russia. Any other "back channel" could be and would be done "in the open".

But here is the best part.... There is a chance the US intelligence community can already read this form of communication, and if not they would be able to listen in on the Russian side when they are discussing it between themselves.

Is it illegal? No. But it's highly suspicious.

Whatever. This administration is a joke. Trump went on his world tour, the planes and tanks that are part of this $110 billion deal isn't going to be made by Americans, Trump failed to show support for NATO, and the leader of Germany is telling the world "Europe is on their own from now on". Meanwhile the White House is burning down and they are trying to put the fire out by pouring gasoline on it. Less than four months in and he has accomplished NOTHING and is facing impeachment for treason.

LOL. I love this.

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Rochard

He hasn't accomplished ANYTHING to date. No a single law has been signed.

The Trump White House hasn't even fully staffed any of it's departments, leaving huge many positions unfilled.

A friend of mine worked in the travel department of the White House under Obama. She tells us that during the transition period they all expected to train their replacements. The Trump team never sent anyone over.

The Pentagon has civilian positions that need to be staffed, and the Trump administration isn't doing it.

People thought Trump was a great negotiator. He signed a $110 billion deal with the Saudis - plans and tanks. Guess who is going to build them? Not Americans. We will hand the technology over to them, the rich will get richer, and Americans get screwed - again.

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