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Old 05-25-2017, 07:55 PM   #1
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?The Germans are bad, very bad?: Trump pledges to ?stop? German car sales to US

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Trump got a chilly reception at the NATO summit in Belgium after attacking fellow members. But he was caught pledging a battle with German automakers as part of his anger with ?back dues? he feels the country owes to NATO. As CNN?s Jake Tapper noted Thursday, ?Trump seems to think it?s like a country club.?

In a discussion about the country?s trade surplus, Trump said. ?The Germans are evil, very evil.?

?Look at the millions of cars they sell in the US, and we?ll stop that,? sources told Der Spiegel.

According to the report, EU Commissioner Jean-Claude Juncker took up for Germany explaining that ?free trade is good for all.?
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Trump doing dumb things 2 and 3 times a day is sort of the best pay back we can ask for.. It's a daily reminder to the dumb fucks that voted for him how stupid they are..
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I dont think the owners of the country/old money will allow that. They all drive german cars.

Him saying that, just might raise the sales, because people fear the prize will go up later this year.
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Trump doing dumb things 2 and 3 times a day is sort of the best pay back we can ask for.. It's a daily reminder to the dumb fucks that voted for him how stupid they are..
Actually things are going perfectly according to plan
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i would like to hear what he would say about america if it ever becomes that successful in economic things as germany does.

evil for him means, when others are successful by doing the opposite what he is doing. sure it makes him mad.
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Trump doing dumb things 2 and 3 times a day is sort of the best pay back we can ask for.. It's a daily reminder to the dumb fucks that voted for him how stupid they are..
exactly...you libs are too dumb to find any lessons for yourselves. a pussy grabbing hate hitler beat your best candidate, the spokesman for your shit-for-brains liberal values.

you got rejected at the polls dumbfuck. now suck on trumps penis for 7.65 more years dumb lib.

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Soon the only thing germany will be producing will be white toyota hiluxes...
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well if trump said something this means the exact opposite will happen...
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exactly...you libs are too dumb to find any lessons for yourselves. a pussy grabbing hate hitler beat your best candidate, the spokesman for your shit-for-brains liberal values.

you got rejected at the polls dumbfuck. now suck on trumps penis for 7.65 more years dumb lib.


Josh BB, I know you like to deflect your bizarre thought processes onto others, but you really need to take a pill.

Trump is the fault of the half-wits that voted for him, not the fault of those who did not.

As Churchill put it; The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter.

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He's still butt hurt he couldn't build there

In January 2003, the city of Stuttgart finally refused the permission to build the tower, foreseeing that TD Trump Deutschland AG could not solve its difficulties in securing necessary financing.[13][14][15]
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The moment Germany allows him and his family to build shit there they will become good people in his eyes
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Trump blasts BMW for, er, building almost 50,000 more cars in the US than it sells in the US

By Bill Howard on January 17, 2017 at 9:15 am

https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/...rs-us-sells-us

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Mercedes Breaks Ground On Its $500 Million Sprinter Van Plant In South Carolina

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jaclynt.../#270d8d55fb24

Trump has a brain-fart or feeds his red hatted idiots ... Ford owns auto plants in Europe, Fiat Chrysler is European owned company now with US vehicle manufacturing.

Trump's ego was the real reason -- Merkel received former president Obama with public fanfare and Trump was compelled to reply to that with insults. Once again, Trump proves to himself be an asshat. Even his own wife doesn't want to hold his little hand.

Tarrifs should be the same on imported automobiles in Europe as they are in the USA. American autos don't sell well in Europe because of their size mainly. That said, my hired car this year at Rome Airport was a Chrysler 300
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American autos don't sell well in Europe because of their size mainly.
There are small american cars too, they also don't sell well. Escalades of course won't sell here because of their size, but smaller cars and sedans I think it's more to do with perceived lower quality of them by Europeans + the fact we have to pay duty on them as well.
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I wonder at what point somebody will finally explain to Trump how trade and economy work

He complains that Europeans should buy as much American cars as the Americans buy German cars.

Only issue with that: In Europe nobody gives a fuck about 12 mpg pieces of plastic that fall apart after 2 years. And nobody gives a fuck about F150 (greetings to Vendzilla here) and other trucks and cars that don't fit our streets and garages.

American cars between 1970 and 2000 were rolling junk and only after that they finally caught up in quality (besides a few exemptions like the Corvette that have always been good cars)

Build something the consumer wants and he will buy it. Trade restrictions will not solve that problem
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Soon the only thing germany will be producing will be white toyota hiluxes...
dude, i used to think you're a cool guy but you slowly get to my nerves.
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dude, i used to think you're a cool guy but you slowly get to my nerves.
Very sad that lots of previously normal people now feel that they have the license to spout bile and racism. Its not just here either.

I think history will make a pre / post Trump distinction. The time before the Orange baboon seems so much more pleasant.

The Jihadi's are winning.
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Trump is soooo bad. He does exactly what the Dutch government is doing for centuries. A car in the USA is 2 - 3 times more cheap than in Holland and also in Germany cars are much cheaper than in Holland. All because of extra import taxes for Holland. But now that Trump does it, it is wrong? Would be better for environment also if cars are more expensive. And the German cars had some problems with fraud regarding to the 'green'ness of their cars. They fucked the environment. So the fact is that those car makers are evil. They should be locked up.

https://www.quora.com/Why-are-German...than-in-the-US
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My Mercedes was built in 'Merica by 'Mericans. Fuck dem Germans! Shut down that Mercedes plant in Alabama and show dem sonzabitches they bad, bad, bad. tRump has spoken. We don't need those fucking jobs! All hail stupid. Huzah, Huzah, Huzah.
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Trump attacking another American allie!

Allies Trump has attacked so far: Canada, Mexico, Australia, Germany & and all NATO allies.

Adversaries Trump has praised: Duterte, Assad, Erdogan & Putin. All dictators
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What about US, comrade? What will do with Trade Deficit and american workers? Trump want money

What is 'Trade Deficit'
Trade deficit is an economic measure of a negative balance of trade in which a country's imports exceeds its exports. A trade deficit represents an outflow of domestic currency to foreign markets.

BREAKING DOWN 'Trade Deficit'
Economic theory dictates that a trade deficit is not necessarily a bad situation because it often corrects itself over time. However, a deficit has been reported and growing in the United States for the past few decades, which has some economists worried. This means that large amounts of the U.S. dollar are being held by foreign nations, which may decide to sell at any time. A large increase in dollar sales can drive the value of the currency down, making it more costly to purchase imports.
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What about US, comrade? What will do with Trade Deficit and american workers? Trump want money

What is 'Trade Deficit'
Trade deficit is an economic measure of a negative balance of trade in which a country's imports exceeds its exports. A trade deficit represents an outflow of domestic currency to foreign markets.

BREAKING DOWN 'Trade Deficit'
Economic theory dictates that a trade deficit is not necessarily a bad situation because it often corrects itself over time. However, a deficit has been reported and growing in the United States for the past few decades, which has some economists worried. This means that large amounts of the U.S. dollar are being held by foreign nations, which may decide to sell at any time. A large increase in dollar sales can drive the value of the currency down, making it more costly to purchase imports.
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You negotiate the trade deficit, like you negotiate the trade agreement.

Trump said he's the best negotiatior.

Trump was humiliated that Obama & Merkel met the same day and got more press in Germany. Miraculously the same day Trump was to take care of a German trade deficit. Trump is a hair trigger idiot.
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What about US, comrade? What will do with Trade Deficit and american workers? Trump want money

What is 'Trade Deficit'
Trade deficit is an economic measure of a negative balance of trade in which a country's imports exceeds its exports. A trade deficit represents an outflow of domestic currency to foreign markets.

BREAKING DOWN 'Trade Deficit'
Economic theory dictates that a trade deficit is not necessarily a bad situation because it often corrects itself over time. However, a deficit has been reported and growing in the United States for the past few decades, which has some economists worried. This means that large amounts of the U.S. dollar are being held by foreign nations, which may decide to sell at any time. A large increase in dollar sales can drive the value of the currency down, making it more costly to purchase imports.
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this is a too easy explaination about trade deficit.
things are much more complicated in the international markets.

next to that the deficit in USA is calculated wrong since trump.

example:
a US company is importing for 10 million dollars goods from outside. 5 million of that goods are going directly to another company in canada (because they bought together to receive a cheaper price). in that case the trump administration calculates the complete 10 million
as imports but the 5 million are not valid exports and donīt get cuttet from the 10 million.

that means that this calculation is WRONG!.

but that the US have a trade deficit is based on this facts:

1. us-goods what are bought by a mass of people in the world are not competible
2. exception of 1. are weapons but as the world is not such a crazy place that there are many countries what allow weapons to civil person means: it is not a mass product.
3. the possibilities for companies to reduce taxes - here are a few examples for that:

a. an american oil trade company opens a company in an offshore country. this company funds a company in DELAWARE.
this company is now trading US-OIL to other countries - the profit they make in delaware are TAX FREE !!!!

b. apple is importing 90% of their parts from offshore to US.
in US they only make last works and sell the phone to APPLE i.e. Singapoure for
just a fraction of the real price - letīs say 100 US reduced by the labour in US and the
cost for the imported parts the compnay makes a profit of 5 dollar in US and pay
tax on this 5 dollar.
in singapore this phone is sold for 500 US - apple singapore have a profit of
400 US and pays the low tax in Singapore.
As they do not have to pay tax on this profit as long as this money does not enter
US the money is kept outside - it can never enter the US market and never produce
prosperity there.

so here is the first BIGGLY mistake in trumps thinking!
He wants to lower the tax for american companies - waht means that apple will pay less tax on the 5 dollars profit in the country and they still will not bring back profits from outside - exept this profits will not be taxed in USA.

but now i ask you: how can someone blame tax oasis offshore and allowing a tax oasis in the own country (btw. there are a few thousand of companies in delaware what are part of the trump empire).

and now i ask you another question: if you would be the owner of an empire what is using all this tax tricks - would you stop it? or would you tell the brainwashed that america is gerat again when the company taxes (the 5 dollar profit from apple) is taxed lower?

see? and this is EXACTLY what he is doing. he does not resolve the problem he makes it even bigger.

the ONLY way to get out of that problem is a completely other tax system.
and yes - it have to be a lower tax for profits what have not been made in US - but there have to be a way to control that somehow.
so the trade problem in US is not made from the gloabl market. it is made from the big companies what can influence corrupt politicians. and trump is not only a corrupt politician - he is also one who OWNES such companies what are influencing it.

the mass of americans (and not only americans) do not understand enough from economy to see this facts. they need easy answers and that makes them vulnerable.
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You negotiate the trade deficit, like you negotiate the trade agreement.
Trump said he's the best negotiatior.
Trump was humiliated that Obama & Merkel met the same day and got more press in Germany. Miraculously the same day Trump was to take care of a German trade deficit. Trump is a hair trigger idiot.
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this is a too easy explaination about trade deficit.
things are much more complicated in the international markets.
next to that the deficit in USA is calculated wrong since trump.
...
an american oil trade company opens a company in an offshore country. this company funds a company in DELAWARE.
...
I agree. It is problem modern globalisation.
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I agree. It is problem modern globalisation.
no - globalisation is not the problem.
only with globalisation you can optimize prosperity.

prosperity means that people can afford to buy MANY things with the existing budget.

this is only possible if they can participate on the advantages other countries have.
this can be raw materials, technology or low production costs.

the unanswered question here is how to prevent unfairness in a global market.

here are some examples:

company A is exporting goods to company B (what is owned by A) in another country
for a very low price. but this price is not beeing forwarded to the consumer in this country it is just for safing taxes in the country of company A.
company A will not IMPORT their profits and do not pay tax on them.
but A is profiting from all what in this country exists. streets, infrastructure, knowhow and much more. and all that is paid by the normal tax payers in the country what do not have the same chance to export their profits.

so the real goal is exactly on that point to find ways to lead all profits (no matter where they are realized) back into the GLOBAL CHAIN.

i will try to explain that in a simple example:

if you have 3 brothers and you 4 want to build a house than you would be stupid to let the brickwork this brother do who needs the longest time for it. you will give that to this brother who works faster (what in regards to the global economy means: cheaper)

if all 4 of you can do everything but paint you will ask a neighbour to do it for you.
now you can chose between 2 neigbours but onbe of them makes the work in the half time (or for the half price) you would 100% chose him because you can buy from the safed money more things for yourself. and possibly you can buy this from the neighbour who gave you a bad price for the painting job but he have very cheap apples what he grows in his garden.

this is how global economy works. that everyone get the advantage from the other.
the word "quality" is a word what have changed the meaning in the past 100 years.
it is a word what needs a relation.

i.e.: if you are usually buying a new car every 5 years it is not a question if this car will work for 50 years. for you it is inmportant that it works 5 years and thatīs why you would never pay the price for such a car even if it would last for 50 years.

another example:

if a person would make 1000 dollars a month 40 years ago and there would not be any increase in this ammount he have only ONE CHANCE to gain prosperity: to buy things cheaper.
if he can buy 2 breads 40 years later for the same price he paid 40 years before for one - his prosperity have doubled up.


there are many more examples what i could write down now but in fact it is a problem of our own memory and the human peculiarity to become increasingly dissatisfied with increasing prosperity.

but yes - there are problems what have to be resolved and that can not be done with the same messures. we in the western civilisation are profitting from global trade by buying a new car every 5 years and the realtion to that is that a worker in some natiron of the world ganed the same or even MORE prosperity from that by beeing able to feed his family with a pot of rice.

for me - and that makes me different thinker from other globalists - this is NOT unfair because it is a question of relation. a piece of bread can make some people more happy as i am when i buy a new ferrari.

this is OUR advantage - and this is what we have to respect.

the problem is, that the much bigger part of this advantage is taken by people like trump and all his gang.

all this guy saying and doing is the opposite of what he said. if you understand economy (and i think i do because i am a professional in that) it is so clear that he does not make things better for the american people. he makes life better for them who are the resonsable for the problems.
and he is a dumb - but not dumb enough that he have just a short time for change the things for him and his billionair friends. he will not lose this time by doing anything for the americans. he is an egocentric and his only knowledge is how to pull people over the table without beeing catched.
a country does not work the same corrupt an inhuman way as you can make a company profitable. a country does favours for itīs citizens - in a company is no place for favours.
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