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Old 05-18-2017, 01:20 PM   #1
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In other news.. FCC voted 2-1 to kill net neutrality

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...itle-ii-rules/

Once again Republicans pick the right people for the job of serving the people.. WTG guys you made Comcast, Time Warner & Verizon proud. The people not so much but don't worry half of them are fucking idiots. The best lobbyist money can buy streamlined right into the FCC director's position!.
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Old 05-18-2017, 01:29 PM   #2
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We're not fucked, it will be reversed in 2020. Fuck Republicans!

Porn will be the first impacted.

The FCC plans to take comments on its plan until August 16 (the docket is available here) and then make a final decision sometime after that.

So GO HERE and voice your opinion to the FCC!
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Old 05-19-2017, 01:23 PM   #3
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Old 05-19-2017, 01:34 PM   #4
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Net neutrality is just code speak for government regulation of the internet. There should be little to none of that unless negative things begin to happen that require fixing.

One of the bigger issues with net neutrality right now is that it's technically illegal for a cell provider to offer access to certain streaming services free of charge (like playing Spotify doesn't count against your data) while not extending the same offer to other services. Those violations aren't currently being enforced, but they could be.
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Old 05-19-2017, 01:43 PM   #5
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Net neutrality is just code speak for government regulation of the internet. There should be little to none of that unless negative things begin to happen that require fixing.

One of the bigger issues with net neutrality right now is that it's technically illegal for a cell provider to offer access to certain streaming services free of charge (like playing Spotify doesn't count against your data) while not extending the same offer to other services. Those violations aren't currently being enforced, but they could be.
You have no clue what net neutrally even is.. It's regulation that states no data can be discriminated against in favor of other data. The govt doesn't need net neutrally to regulate the internet, if you believe your talking heads telling you it's about regulating things other than data discrimination you are really fucking dumb.

The govt will regulate what they want on the internet regardless of net neutrally or not. There is not a single fucking down side of net neutrally for consumers. Not having net neutrally just means ISPs can ass rape you on data charges just like the cell phone companies do.

Stop being a fucking meat puppet.
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Net neutrality is just code speak for government regulation of the internet. There should be little to none of that unless negative things begin to happen that require fixing.

One of the bigger issues with net neutrality right now is that it's technically illegal for a cell provider to offer access to certain streaming services free of charge (like playing Spotify doesn't count against your data) while not extending the same offer to other services. Those violations aren't currently being enforced, but they could be.
Wow you really have no idea what net neutrality is, and what you're in for now. Basically you'll be paying more soon, just because your provider wants you to. Your services will be tier level to fuck you the hardest, like the cable company does, they need to recoup their losses from people going digital. And in the near future you'll get a service provider pop-up before every porn site visit reminding you it's platinum level data "would you like to precede?" What a dummy
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Old 05-19-2017, 03:35 PM   #7
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Net neutrality is just code speak for government regulation of the internet. There should be little to none of that unless negative things begin to happen that require fixing.

One of the bigger issues with net neutrality right now is that it's technically illegal for a cell provider to offer access to certain streaming services free of charge (like playing Spotify doesn't count against your data) while not extending the same offer to other services. Those violations aren't currently being enforced, but they could be.
Sheese.. no dude. Read this.
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It's amazing that people can work online, yet not understand both sides of the net neutrality argument.

I've seen the cable TV tiers used as an example a thousand times, but that doesn't apply to the internet. There are multiple cable TV tiers because the cable companies license access from the networks based on subscriber count. They can't get access to broadcast every station without charging everyone $150+ a month. But not everyone wants to pay that, so they offer stripped down packages (thus lowering the licensing fees for the cable company) all the way down to $30 or whatever per month.

You aren't going to get online one day only to find out that Wikipedia is now in the "education tier" that costs $10 a month extra. ISPs do not pay licensing fees to any website.
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It's regulation that states no data can be discriminated against in favor of other data.
When a cell provider offers free bandwidth access to a streaming service, but they charge bandwidth as usual for another service, that is discrimination. It is a violation of net neutrality.
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Sheese.. no dude. Read this.
He's just another anonymous fake nic here to spread right wing propoganda.

No matter what you say he'll have a deaf ear response
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It's amazing that people can work online, yet not understand both sides of the net neutrality argument.

I've seen the cable TV tiers used as an example a thousand times, but that doesn't apply to the internet. There are multiple cable TV tiers because the cable companies license access from the networks based on subscriber count. They can't get access to broadcast every station without charging everyone $150+ a month. But not everyone wants to pay that, so they offer stripped down packages (thus lowering the licensing fees for the cable company) all the way down to $30 or whatever per month.

You aren't going to get online one day only to find out that Wikipedia is now in the "education tier" that costs $10 a month extra. ISPs do not pay licensing fees to any website.
ISP's likely won't charge consumers directly for "tiers" or "packages." What they will do is charge website owners. Comcast could go to Pornhub and say, "Pay us $10 million per month or we will put your site in the "slow lane" and no matter how fast an internet connection your visitors have, it will load much slower than your competitions and make streaming video a challenge." Pornhub now has no choice but to pay them or risk losing a ton of visitors who will move on to faster-running sites.

Imagine if Comcast started up its own movie or music streaming service. They could just choose to put Netflix or Spotify in a "slow lane" so Comcast customers will choose their fast service over one of the slower ones.

Of course, all of these things could piss off customers and they will switch to an ISP that doesn't do that, but roughly 30% of the country only has one choice when it comes to broadband ISPs and many others only have two. If both are throttling, then you have no real choice.
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When a cell provider offers free bandwidth access to a streaming service, but they charge bandwidth as usual for another service, that is discrimination. It is a violation of net neutrality.
These practices were actually under review at the time of the election. There were notices sent out and basically the FCC said that allowing companies to pay to have their service not count against data caps on mobile devices is wrong, but companies doing it for free might be okay, but it is still in a gray area. The head of the FCC actually said they were waiting for the election before making any big rulings on this.

Well, now that the election has happened and net neutrality is basically dead, there will be no investigations and doing this, paid or free, is fine.
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ISP's likely won't charge consumers directly for "tiers" or "packages." What they will do is charge website owners. Comcast could go to Pornhub and say, "Pay us $10 million per month or we will put your site in the "slow lane" and no matter how fast an internet connection your visitors have, it will load much slower than your competitions and make streaming video a challenge." Pornhub now has no choice but to pay them or risk losing a ton of visitors who will move on to faster-running sites.

Imagine if Comcast started up its own movie or music streaming service. They could just choose to put Netflix or Spotify in a "slow lane" so Comcast customers will choose their fast service over one of the slower ones.

Of course, all of these things could piss off customers and they will switch to an ISP that doesn't do that, but roughly 30% of the country only has one choice when it comes to broadband ISPs and many others only have two. If both are throttling, then you have no real choice.
Great post! Lots of ways they'll fuck us. Here's their tier level concept of fucking us.

They could charge content providers AND throttle AND tier level pricing, nothing stopping them.
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Net neutrality is just code speak for government regulation of the internet. There should be little to none of that unless negative things begin to happen that require fixing.

One of the bigger issues with net neutrality right now is that it's technically illegal for a cell provider to offer access to certain streaming services free of charge (like playing Spotify doesn't count against your data) while not extending the same offer to other services. Those violations aren't currently being enforced, but they could be.


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