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Paul Markham · 05-09-2017, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by NewNick

Do stop typing Paul - you are looking very silly now.

The extreme right have just been soundly beaten in Holland and France yet you are claiming victory ?

No, I'm claiming a growth in the support the Right Wing is getting. Are you claiming their votes are falling? That would be silly.

Paul Markham · 05-09-2017, 08:19 AM

The UK has a similar idiot running for office. Jeremy Corbyn has based all his policies on taxing the rich, them staying in the UK to be poorer and growing the number of people in work without it costing the Government more rather than costing the Government.

In the UK people are subsidised by the government because of their low pay. Making some people in work a liability rather than a contributor.

He also intends to keep the doors open to more liability migrants. Who will quickly fill the 1 million low-rent houses the country has been forced to build.

Thankfully the British realise he's thinking it's still the 1960s and won't vote for him. Unlike the French who think that more spending is the way out of debt.

MaDalton · 05-09-2017, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by shiraz9944

Ronald Reagan presided over the largest economic period of growth in history during his 8 years. Yes much larger than Bill Clinton's even. Unemployment when he came in was over 10%, when he left was zero or anything below 4.5 is considered zero. His is pretty right though some say more centrist than they realize. He didn't kill millions, started no wars that lasted more than say a few weeks, grew the GDP and built up the military enormously.

Reagan...

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The result has been unprecedented government debt. Reagan has tripled the Gross Federal Debt, from $900 billion to $2.7 trillion. Ford and Carter in their combined terms could only double it. It took 31 years to accomplish the first postwar debt tripling, yet Reagan did it in eight.

https://mises.org/library/sad-legacy-ronald-reagan-0

Also Reagan would be considered a bleeding heart libby by todays standards of Ted Cruz and the other GOP facists

MaDalton · 05-09-2017, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

There are more elections and so far all show a growing tide of people rejecting the EU and moving Right.

Local election results: Ukip loses almost every seat it had in night that could spell disaster for the party | The Independent

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...at-it-had-held

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

I asked a simple question, you couldn't answer it. To do that you need to produce proof that wages are rising for all sectors of the population, not just the 1%. That debt isn't funding the entire system.

So if it's stupid it should be easy to answer the question. Show us the citizens that have benefited. I'll start it off. Czech's have. They have migrated enough low-skilled people out of Czech to benefit the ones left. Probably Poland as well.

Now go look at the leading industrial nations who took those low paid workers and dependents.

This is why people are voting to get out of the EU.

may I quote you:

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Name one EU country that has successfully increased the overall wealth of all the population.

How about all of them? All. Every. Fucking. Single. EU. Country.

And nice that you acknowledged that for CZ at least - kind of obvious even for you when you stick your nose outside your door.

And when countries like Italy, Portugal, Spain or Greece have a high youth unemployement, it is most certainly not the fault of the EU but the result of idiotic politics and corruption of the local governments. Still those countries do better today than before the EU when they were military dictatorships (you should remember that, you're old enough)

And don't you ever dare to blame the downfall of the UK industry on the EU, you fucked it up yourself with your ridiculous unions and permanent strikes until you had successfully ruined every part of the industry. Just take the car industry - you ruined it in the 1970ties and 80ties by producing so much rolling pieces of shit until people had enough and bought rather german, french or japanese.

But now you may return to protecting your borders and industry and your toothless bums can return to hammering together worthless pieces of rust with 3 wheels you called cars and everyone is happy cause you are least among yourselves.

MaDalton · 05-09-2017, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

No, I'm claiming a growth in the support the Right Wing is getting. Are you claiming their votes are falling? That would be silly.

if there is one silly person on here...

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The party?s sole council win was a gain from Labour in Lancashire; otherwise, by 4pm on Friday it had lost 140 seats. Its vote share in England collapsed from 22% when the same seats were last contested to a projected total of less than 5%.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...at-it-had-held

Paul Markham · 05-10-2017, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy

because he IS a financial banker (what means he learned economy and you did not) he knows that france would not survive without the EU.
btw. - the idea of the EU is a french idea schuhmann started that with Adenauer already in the late 50s.

Without France and the UK. The EU can't survive.

The EU is anti-democratic in its drive to stop any other country from having a referendum. because it knows other countries will vote OUT. Bringing to a halt the bureaucratics drive to rule Europe from the centre.

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i want to see your face when you will realize in 3 or 4 years what will happen with UK.
i will not say they will die from hunger but they will lose all prosperity and it is quite logic that they will.
because NOBODY will order anything from them (exept they know that the pounds value will drop - and than they pay less than then value is).
and britains can not afford to buy anything from outside because the pound will be weaker than ever.

Will the EU block EU countries selling to the UK to punish the UK? This will result in millions of EU citizens losing their jobs and millions of EUcitizens in the UK having to return home or like me being forced to apply for a residence permit.

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the EU is not perfect - i never said that - but it is the most senseful union of countries where nearly EVERY important good have natural ressources and can be traded from one to the other without the risk of currency changes.

you only see a EU now what is less than 20 years old. if you would be able to see the big vision you would understand HOW nessecary it is to survive.

So why isn't the EU taking steps to make itself better for the majority of EU citizens?

The only good thing about the EU is the free trade agreement between nations. Unfortunately, they have expanded that to take away the ability of nations to strike trade deals on their own. now it takes up to 9 years to get a trade deal decided that suits no one as it has to fit the needs of nations like Greece and Germany. It's handling of the debt crisis, globalisation, migration is pitiful and making the lives of ordinary Europeans worse.

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i really hope that macron will win this election and so far things look good for him - even when nobody knew his name 1 year ago.
he is fresh, young, intelligent and not jailed in a corner of his brain as you guys are or trump is.

He offers more spending and no way to reduce the need to spend. So just like every other politician who came before him.

The West desperately needs to cut back on the migration of low skilled and low paid people, it needs to slow down the haemorrhaging of jobs to the Third World. These two measures will bring back jobs and raise wages, therefore slowing down on the need for the State to subsidise people. At the moment it's doing the opposite and the growing debts are a testament to the failure of politicians. Including those in the EU.

just one instance that shows why the EU needs to spend money on benefits.

Paul Markham · 05-10-2017, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy

as you maybe know i have also a house in mallorca and i live a few kilometers from Magaluf what is also called "little britain".
go there and look how many business are sold how much the prices dropped ALREADY because they know that UK tourism will drop DRAMATICLY !!!!
just one week ago a friend of mine sold a bar there for 50.000 what he bought 8 years ago for 500.000.

people with no prosperity will not go on holidays or if they do they will spend a lot less.

you have to learn A LOT about the rules of economy before you start to teach others with your "wiseness".

There will be huge job losses across the EU if the bureaucrats stop the EU selling goods to the UK. Or do you think the job losses will all be in the UK?

Will the EU risk those job losses to punish the UK and risk its own survival?

Paul Markham · 05-10-2017, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy

hmmm... so what are your points on trump?

1. he throws bombs everywhere in the wold
2. he allow the US weapon industry to arm the terrorists (even give them credit when they can´t pay)
3. he runs businesses what are PACKED with immigrant workers

i think you are the one who is really confused!!!

btw. today i had a few really funny conversations with 7 different person and each one of them is well known for blaming the established media for their "fake news".

all 7 of them i asked what they think about mr bean (rowan atkinson) and ALL OF THEM felt sorry that he died.

Which is exactly what his predecessors do. The way you rant one would think he started all those things.

Paul Markham · 05-10-2017, 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by StefanG

Local election results: Ukip loses almost every seat it had in night that could spell disaster for the party | The Independent

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...at-it-had-held

UKIP got what it set out to do. To get the UK out of the EU.

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How about all of them? All. Every. Fucking. Single. EU. Country.

So why is poverty increasing and wages dropping in so many of the EU countries. while debt sky rockets.

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And when countries like Italy, Portugal, Spain or Greece have a high youth unemployement, it is most certainly not the fault of the EU but the result of idiotic politics and corruption of the local governments. Still those countries do better today than before the EU when they were military dictatorships (you should remember that, you're old enough)

The EU gave them the Euro that allowed those politicians to borrow beyond their means. Allowed Thrid World nations to steal jobs and mass migration to lower wages.

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And don't you ever dare to blame the downfall of the UK industry on the EU, you fucked it up yourself with your ridiculous unions and permanent strikes until you had successfully ruined every part of the industry. Just take the car industry - you ruined it in the 1970ties and 80ties by producing so much rolling pieces of shit until people had enough and bought rather german, french or japanese.

The UK has the fastest growing GDP in the EU and 5th largest in the World.

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But now you may return to protecting your borders and industry and your toothless bums can return to hammering together worthless pieces of rust with 3 wheels you called cars and everyone is happy cause you are least among yourselves.

And the EU can keep its doors open to Thrid World migrants to enter and jobs to leave.

Paul Markham · 05-10-2017, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by StefanG

if there is one silly person on here...

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...at-it-had-held

Those voters are now voting Tory. And many Labour voters are switching to the Tories.

https://ig.ft.com/elections/uk/2017/polls/

Could you be more wrong?

pimpmaster9000 · 05-10-2017, 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

EU people want cheap china shit...china is in no way to blame for being competitive and the EU being greedy...nobody can force an EU person to buy cheap china shit...nobody...it is free will...free market...

Paul Markham · 05-10-2017, 02:54 AM

There are very easy ways to see how countries are treating the average citizens.

Take GDP per Capita. Deduct, inflation, Debt per capita and the share the top 20% are taking. The results are most people are worse off than they were and there's no sign of any change and a lot of signs of things getting worse.

At the moment the EU has no intentions of stopping mass migration from very poor countries outside the EU. this will reduce earnings and increase the need for more people to need benefits.

It has no intentions of balancing trade with Third World Nations that are taking jobs from EU workers.

As Automation also takes more jobs, where will the money come from the pay for the benefits of the growing numbers who will need them?

Will the rich be rich enough and willing to pay high enough taxes to subsidise the needy?

Paul Markham · 05-10-2017, 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio

EU people want cheap china shit...china is in no way to blame for being competitive and the EU being greedy...nobody can force an EU person to buy cheap china shit...nobody...it is free will...free market...

I agree. People are prepared for others to lose their jobs so they can buy cheap shit. That is until it's their job that's being lost.

And it will not stop. What happens when your customers can't afford your products?

All that's needed is a tariff to balance the damage cheap Chinese shit does to the economy oof the West.

NewNick · 05-10-2017, 04:45 AM

Jesus Markham, you missed your calling, what a waste.

Just think of the things you could have achieved if you had resisted the call of $10 girls in Eastern Europe.

Fool.

pimpmaster9000 · 05-10-2017, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

All that's needed is a tariff to balance the damage cheap Chinese shit does to the economy oof the West.

and they will impose tariffs right back at you...the UK is 3% of all chinas exports...china is 3% of all UK exports...3% is 3%...you are right back at square one...

you are cherry picking consequences again..."I will eat fat and only my tits will grow"...

these are your 2 possible choices:

1) robots
2) cheap 3rd world labor

in both scenarios the high paid western worker is a thing of the past...not because of china...but because of westerners and their own greed...here is the perfect example:

https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...ing-wages.html

thommy · 05-10-2017, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio

and they will impose tariffs right back at you...the UK is 3% of all chinas exports...china is 3% of all UK exports...3% is 3%...you are right back at square one...

you are cherry picking consequences again..."I will eat fat and only my tits will grow"...

these are your 2 possible choices:

1) robots
2) cheap 3rd world labor

in both scenarios the high paid western worker is a thing of the past...not because of china...but because of westerners and their own greed...here is the perfect example:

https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...ing-wages.html

this is not really correct because britain is improting more as it is exporting - but you can´t blame other countries when a country does not have any goods competible in the market.

the biggest mistake of britain was to keep the pound instead of joining the euro.

i mean if you have a company and order something from another country on the currency they have - what will you prefer? to have a realiable information about your buying price or playing lottery ?

with importing more than exporting the currency also lost on value with the time and that makes it harder for britain to import but still cheaper as to produce it in the own country.

the desicion to be in a union but keep the own currency did not do good for any country.
even denmark have still problems even when the danish crown is connected to the eurp with a +/- of 2,5%.

the point what people like paul don´t understand are

1. you can´t be A BIT pregnand
2. no contry in the world can survive without the global markt.
3. even whan you accept the global market you will not get things for free
4. the advantages of a global market are advantages for every single individual but it is hard for a small country to survive or even beeing seen in it. that was the idea of every union in the world and with every union the world had a bigger growth. that was like that - is like that - and will be always like that.
any argument against the globalizm is an argument against prosperity and progress and it is also dangerous for the world because GLOBAL problems getting bigger and bigger every day and they will not be resolved with small and smaller units of people who ONLY think in themselves.

05-09-2017, 08:19 AM	#103
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	The UK has a similar idiot running for office. Jeremy Corbyn has based all his policies on taxing the rich, them staying in the UK to be poorer and growing the number of people in work without it costing the Government more rather than costing the Government. In the UK people are subsidised by the government because of their low pay. Making some people in work a liability rather than a contributor. He also intends to keep the doors open to more liability migrants. Who will quickly fill the 1 million low-rent houses the country has been forced to build. Thankfully the British realise he's thinking it's still the 1960s and won't vote for him. Unlike the French who think that more spending is the way out of debt. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

05-10-2017, 02:54 AM	#113
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	There are very easy ways to see how countries are treating the average citizens. Take GDP per Capita. Deduct, inflation, Debt per capita and the share the top 20% are taking. The results are most people are worse off than they were and there's no sign of any change and a lot of signs of things getting worse. At the moment the EU has no intentions of stopping mass migration from very poor countries outside the EU. this will reduce earnings and increase the need for more people to need benefits. It has no intentions of balancing trade with Third World Nations that are taking jobs from EU workers. As Automation also takes more jobs, where will the money come from the pay for the benefits of the growing numbers who will need them? Will the rich be rich enough and willing to pay high enough taxes to subsidise the needy? __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

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