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Old 04-14-2017, 09:16 AM   #51
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Poland. But I doubt that they welcomed Soviets with open arms as "liberators". rather - "just another fuckers that will opress us."
Film about western ukraine - they were happy


Propaganda Western media, shows Poland as the victim of aggression, "the bloody Stalinist regime." And the people who zombified by Western propaganda, with confidence madmen, tell each other scary stories about the Polish victims of the Red Army and the NKVD. Here are some photos without comment. Maybe these photos will help some people to keep the mind.
Section and the destruction of Czechoslovakia as an independent state with the participation of Germany, Hungary and Poland in the years 1938-1939. These events are not officially included in the history of the Second World War, but is closely associated with it and it may be the first step in this war.

1)Polish tanks 7TR included in the Czech city Tesín (Cieszyn). October 1938


2)Polish soldiers posing with deposed Czechoslovak coat of arms, at have captured, during "Operation Zaluzha", Telephone and Telegraph building in the Czech village of Ligotka Kameralna.


3)Handshake Polish Marshal Edward Rydz-Smigla and the German Colonel Bogislav fon Studnitz . November 11, 1938


4) Polish soldiers on captured by the Czech checkpoint in Czech-German border, near the pedestrian bridge, which was built in honor of the anniversary of Emperor Franz Joseph in the Czech city of Bogumin. Wyden has not cleaned by the Czechoslovak border post.


5) Poles replace Czech name on the Polish. Station. Tesín.


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also, its amazing to see how history differs from each point of view

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Old 04-14-2017, 09:34 AM   #52
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also, comrade its really charming that you defend your western Ukrainian brothers so much now
from your previous posts I remember them as "bandits" "UPA bandits" "Bandera murderers" "killiers of innocent polish children"
make up your mind already comrade !
no more mistakes like this comrade, political officer wont be happy with your posts


The Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists (OUN) (Ukrainian: Організація Українських Націоналістів, Orhanizatsiya Ukrayins'kykh Natsionalistiv or ОУН) was a Ukrainian political organization created in 1929 in Vienna (Austria) and acting in Western Ukraine (at the time interwar Poland). The OUN emerged as a union between the Ukrainian Military Organization, smaller radical right-wing groups, and right-wing Ukrainian nationalists and intellectuals represented by Dmytro Dontsov, Yevhen Konovalets, Mykola Stsyborsky and other figures.[2][nb 1]

The OUN sought to infiltrate legal political parties, universities and other political structures and institutions. As revolutionary ultra-nationalists the OUN have been characterized by some historians as fascist.[2][3][nb 2] The OUN's strategy to achieve Ukrainian independence included violence and terrorism against perceived foreign and domestic enemies, particularly Poland, Czechoslovakia and Russia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organi...n_Nationalists
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bravo comrade, bravo ! this is the sharp Sarn that we know here.
10 minutes with political commisseur and its all intelectually shining once again.
Just please dont forget to make up your mind how western Ukraine welcomed Soviets with open arms
that thesis need much much consultations with political commiseur, comrade.
history, wikipedia, witnesses reports seem to be saying something completely different
half of Ukraine was welcoming Soviets so warmly that they even decided to join SS, in a expression of sympathy to USSR

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Film about western ukraine - they were happy


Propaganda Western media, shows Poland as the victim of aggression, "the bloody Stalinist regime." And the people who zombified by Western propaganda, with confidence madmen, tell each other scary stories about the Polish victims of the Red Army and the NKVD. Here are some photos without comment. Maybe these photos will help some people to keep the mind.
Section and the destruction of Czechoslovakia as an independent state with the participation of Germany, Hungary and Poland in the years 1938-1939. These events are not officially included in the history of the Second World War, but is closely associated with it and it may be the first step in this war.

1)Polish tanks 7TR included in the Czech city Tesín (Cieszyn). October 1938


2)Polish soldiers posing with deposed Czechoslovak coat of arms, at have captured, during "Operation Zaluzha", Telephone and Telegraph building in the Czech village of Ligotka Kameralna.


3)Handshake Polish Marshal Edward Rydz-Smigla and the German Colonel Bogislav fon Studnitz . November 11, 1938


4) Polish soldiers on captured by the Czech checkpoint in Czech-German border, near the pedestrian bridge, which was built in honor of the anniversary of Emperor Franz Joseph in the Czech city of Bogumin. Wyden has not cleaned by the Czechoslovak border post.


5) Poles replace Czech name on the Polish. Station. Tesín.


https://www.debatepolitics.com/histo...1938-year.html

that Katyn meme below it actually made me laugh and I agree with it. Now please show how you can laugh at yourself, your country and its politics and not defend it all blindly like a dog

lets start with simple exercise comrade...Its really something easy, it doesnt even require laugh at some historical killings or whatever...just a little warm up.....



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Old 04-14-2017, 09:41 AM   #54
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comrade, comrade !
copy pasting wikipedia wont help here.
Lets show some respect to each other comrade ! some little respect to our intellects
so, finally, were OUN good Ukrainians opressed by bloody Poles that welcomed Soviets with open arms or rather they were bandits that killed pollacks children ? and Poland cant never forget about it, thats why it needs Putin's help in this matter ?
comrade ! I know it can be little difficult to express such difficult diplomatic opinion that requires lots of diplomatic art.
thats why I wont mind some longer coffee/ tea break for you and your crew for longer consultations with politruk. Maybe even some calls to Kremlin ? you never know...
also, I am going back to work comrade. so my absense here wont mean that what you may think that it means ;]
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The Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists (OUN) (Ukrainian: Організація Українських Націоналістів, Orhanizatsiya Ukrayins'kykh Natsionalistiv or ОУН) was a Ukrainian political organization created in 1929 in Vienna (Austria) and acting in Western Ukraine (at the time interwar Poland). The OUN emerged as a union between the Ukrainian Military Organization, smaller radical right-wing groups, and right-wing Ukrainian nationalists and intellectuals represented by Dmytro Dontsov, Yevhen Konovalets, Mykola Stsyborsky and other figures.[2][nb 1]

The OUN sought to infiltrate legal political parties, universities and other political structures and institutions. As revolutionary ultra-nationalists the OUN have been characterized by some historians as fascist.[2][3][nb 2] The OUN's strategy to achieve Ukrainian independence included violence and terrorism against perceived foreign and domestic enemies, particularly Poland, Czechoslovakia and Russia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organi...n_Nationalists
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Old 04-14-2017, 10:00 AM   #55
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half of Ukraine was welcoming Soviets so warmly that they even decided to join SS, in a expression of sympathy to USSR
I am write above about this.
Wow comrade wach here about UPA from CIA comrades

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The OUN (Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists) is an organization of
anti-Consomf at Ukrainian nationalists who strongly favor self-determination for
the Ukrainian people. The OUN was founded in Prague in 1928 as an illegal
secret group fighting for Ukrainian freedom under the leadership of
Colonel Evhen KONOVALETS. Mbst of the metbers of the group are Galician Ukrainians
who were Polish subjects from 1920 to 1939. The Ukrainians accused the Poles
of treating them as an inferior people, denying them cultural autonomy, curtailing
their Chances for professional advantages and persecuting them for opposing in
any way the complete Polonization of ethnically Ukrainian territory. The Poles
erroneously believed that the Galician Ukrainians represented a disloyal Soviet
fifth column in their midst. In actual fact, the Galician Ukrainians were in
violent opposition to communism and wanted above all else to be part of a
liberated, non-Russian Ukrainian state.
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that Katyn meme below it actually made me laugh and I agree with it. Now please show how you can laugh at yourself, your country and its politics and not defend it all blindly like a dog
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no time to smile
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Old 04-14-2017, 10:13 AM   #56
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comrade, comrade !
copy pasting wikipedia wont help here.
Lets show some respect to each other comrade ! some little respect to our intellects
so, finally, were OUN good Ukrainians opressed by bloody Poles that welcomed Soviets with open arms or rather they were bandits that killed pollacks children ? and Poland cant never forget about it, thats why it needs Putin's help in this matter ?
comrade ! I know it can be little difficult to express such difficult diplomatic opinion that requires lots of diplomatic art.
thats why I wont mind some longer coffee/ tea break for you and your crew for longer consultations with politruk. Maybe even some calls to Kremlin ? you never know...
also, I am going back to work comrade. so my absense here wont mean that what you may think that it means ;]
The problem is not in the Ukrainians but in the special services that use them. Today, it is CIA and EU for proxy war against Russia. Ukrainians work like a cannon fodder today
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16 million for a bomb? They could pay 3 time less to the enemy and they would surrender voluntarily.
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16 million for a bomb? They could pay 3 time less to the enemy and they would surrender voluntarily.
Not these religious nutcases.
Any rational people would WANT to join forces with the U.S. and get all the economic benefits.
But these Islamic extremists don't want anything to do with the "Modern" world and want us eradicated.
They actually prefer living in the stone-age. So our money means nothing to the "true believers"
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Not these religious nutcases.
Any rational people would WANT to join forces with the U.S. and get all the economic benefits.
But these Islamic extremists don't want anything to do with the "Modern" world and want us eradicated.
They actually prefer living in the stone-age. So our money means nothing to the "true believers"
It was a joke...at least the attempt.Still, it is extremely expensive. Gas would be cheaper.
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Trump is insecure he will do everything bigger & harder.

71 year old Trump it trying to cause as much destruction as possible before he's removed from office. Bombs are a distraction from his FBI collusion investigations.
The West needs to let the Muslims wipe each other out.
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MOAB my ass Brits had Grand Slam 75 years ago..

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The problem is not in the Ukrainians but in the special services that use them. Today, it is CIA and EU for proxy war against Russia. Ukrainians work like a cannon fodder today

... And so many of them were for Hitler (HIWIS) and I will bet my ass Russians still remember it...
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I´ve just been given information from friends with family in Pakistan, the area hit with the MUAB wasn´t IS controlled...

let´s think wtf is going on!
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The CIA built thise tunnels for the Mujahedeen

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The first time bin Laden had seen the Tora Bora caves, he had been a young mujahedeen fighter and a recent university graduate with a degree in civil engineering. It had been some 20 years before, during Washington's first Afghan war, the decade-long, C.I.A.-financed jihad of the 1980's against the Soviet occupation. Rising to more than 13,000 feet, 35 miles southwest of the provincial capital of Jalalabad, Tora Bora was a fortress of snow-capped peaks, steep valleys and fortified caves. Its miles of tunnels, bunkers and base camps, dug deeply into the steep rock walls, had been part of a C.I.A.-financed complex built for the mujahedeen. Bin Laden had flown in dozens of bulldozers and other pieces of heavy equipment from his father's construction empire, the Saudi Binladin Group, one of the most prosperous construction companies in Saudi Arabia and throughout the Persian Gulf. According to one frequently told story, bin Laden would drive one of the bulldozers himself across the precipitous mountain peaks, constructing defensive tunnels and storage depots.
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... And so many of them were for Hitler (HIWIS) and I will bet my ass Russians still remember it...
There is a good Polish film about this. It's bad that no one else knows the truth about this.
https://youtu.be/XQh_j2GJ2RU
We ofcourse remember it.
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There is a good Polish film about this. It's bad that no one else knows the truth about this.
https://youtu.be/XQh_j2GJ2RU
We ofcourse remember it.

OK Lavrenti, thanks for the tip, unfortunarely I only speak English so the film is not so convincing.
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Lawrientij sends confused messages, but that is his task.

Russia communication not so good. Political instructions to make more chaos and stir nations abroad.
Russia Strong, One Russia.


In previous posts Lawrientij writes how Ukrainians welcome Soviets with open arms.

Yet, he posts movie about how their welcome SS actually.

We wait for more from Lawrientij...
How USSR was good for brother nations.

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Lies, lies, lies and disinformation. Typical for Russian propaganda and the people that blindly believe it and propagate it.
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we wait for more posts from Lawrientij. Especially how communists murdered dozens of milions in USSR and worldwide, how they created GULAGs to sent political opponents to and how they always tried to stir things up abroad to divide other nations.


Lawrientij, no one is an idiot here. well, maybe some of them, yes. But not me:1orglau gh

Also, what kind of respect you have for us if you dont even speak english ? WTF ?:1orglaug h


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Trump's fault, of course, lol.
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By doing this Trump has saved the lives of 10,000s of Muslims. And sent a warning to Kim.
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By doing this Trump has saved the lives of 10,000s of Muslims. And sent a warning to Kim.
And by doing 9/11 bin laden saved the lives of 100.000s of Americans and sent a message to Jamal...
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... Russia Strong, One Russia.
Lies, lies, lies and disinformation. Typical for Russian propaganda and the people that blindly believe it and propagate it.
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In previous posts Lawrientij writes how Ukrainians welcome Soviets with open arms.
Yet, he posts movie about how their welcome SS actually.
We wait for more from Lawrientij...
All it true, open arms for soviets and SS welcome and war after agains all of them). The Soviets began to break churches and build collective farms. It was more soft than Poland occupation but not all was good. SS kill 17 million peoples in Ukraine. The world is not divided into good and bad peoples. It would be a one-sided view.
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OK Lavrenti, thanks for the tip, unfortunarely I only speak English so the film is not so convincing.
As I thought, no one knows Lavrenti
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we wait for more posts from Lawrientij. Especially how communists murdered dozens of milions in USSR and worldwide, how they created GULAGs to sent political opponents to and how they always tried to stir things up abroad to divide other nations.
Lawrientij, no one is an idiot here. well, maybe some of them, yes. But not me:1orglau gh
Also, what kind of respect you have for us if you dont even speak english ? WTF ?:1orglaug h
For to take independence(stole land) from Russian Empire - Poland support revolution and help Lenin After cry about Communism?
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