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Old 04-12-2017, 06:10 PM   #1
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Are Traffic Leaks OK on Paysites Now ? Model Drama !

So I am having a bit of a running feud with a model we shot about 3 or 4 years ago, shot her on 5 separate occasions, shot about 30 odd scenes of her, told her we was going to create a site ect... then she freaked out when we tried to make money back off what we'd invested

Basically ploughed somewhere between 2-3k (British) so about $4500 (at the time) into shooting her... at first we tried a couple of clip site options... both times she blew up and talked to us (well me) like shit... both times I gave her the profiles we'd set up...

Now we've finally launched a site and she's gone MENTAL... now her main complaint is we called it her official site, when it's obviously not... but this is porn right ? How many sites do actually have the girls actively behind the site...

Don't get me wrong I have no problems changing shit, and if she'd come and spoke to me normally I would of done... but she came in all guns blazing swearing and demanding shit... she's also knocked my stuff, even though the diva earned serious $$$ out of it... So I am a little pissed now to change shit...

I asked her what she thought we was going to do with 30 odd scenes of her, and we'd told her from day 1 we'd make a site... she said she thought we we're going to make like some sort of fan site, and send all the traffic and sales to her site... CHLOES TOY BOX

And that leads me on to the question in the title, I then went and had a look at her site... it's with VEROTEL supposedly... got to say I think it looks like shit... and are traffic leaks ok ? Linking to all her clip sites seems like some massive traffic leaks to me...

Seriously I need to employ someone to deal with all the model drama we have...
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Old 04-12-2017, 06:19 PM   #2
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you gotta be firm and professional from the beginning.

most generally look for a company that's already established.

Ur issue sounds like how you initially went about things. You gotta have an established price, let them know exactly what their getting into and be done with it.

If you're not 100% sure what ur doing, that's why she's asking questions.

$4500 sounds like a ton for a shoot btw. Wouldn't be surprised if women from here start hittin u up.
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Old 04-12-2017, 07:04 PM   #3
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Huh...

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you gotta be firm and professional from the beginning.

most generally look for a company that's already established.

Ur issue sounds like how you initially went about things. You gotta have an established price, let them know exactly what their getting into and be done with it.

If you're not 100% sure what ur doing, that's why she's asking questions.

$4500 sounds like a ton for a shoot btw. Wouldn't be surprised if women from here start hittin u up.
We did tell her from the start that we intended to do her a site from the start, and she had no complaints... it was only after we'd shot her 5-6 different times... and we started to try and re coup some of that money that she acted like we didn't tell her... it doesn't matter how professional you try and be, when all around you just act like she is...

Our model release is air tight... she obviously was more interested in counting her money than reading the release... And I would of changed things if maybe she'd tried speaking to us like normal people instead of swearing and making demands...

More interested anyways to hear what people's opinions are on the traffic leaks... or if they are now excepted... anyways been a long day, sorry if I sound grumpy but real tired so going to crash
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Old 04-13-2017, 04:44 AM   #4
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Hmmm...

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Old 04-13-2017, 07:22 AM   #5
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now her main complaint is we called it her official site, when it's obviously not... but this is porn right ? H
Her main complaint is your (now publicly) admitted and intentional fraudulent misrepresentation of her and the site and you think she's got a problem?



This board has become a cesspool of dipshits.
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sorry to say, but if she has her own site, that would be her official site & not yours. Your siteīs her content & you could say "her first content filmed".

We had similar problems with a few models, many of our models were first time vids too, so thatīs what we promoted the sites as, "(models name) first time porn vids"...

itīll sell better too if you promote it correctly. You took her porn vid virginity


as far as using her content for a site, you can do what you want with the content if youīve got her sig and ID, but just go on the official site, because obviously itīs not as you wonīt be able to continue filming more
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Yes Yes Yes...

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Her main complaint is your (now publicly) admitted and intentional fraudulent misrepresentation of her and the site and you think she's got a problem?



This board has become a cesspool of dipshits.
Yes and your a prize one, had plenty of BS off you in the past, so no surprise you giving it large again...

So just to clarify your ok with the traffic leaks all over her site ?
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Old 04-13-2017, 10:42 AM   #8
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sorry to say, but if she has her own site, that would be her official site & not yours. Your siteīs her content & you could say "her first content filmed".

We had similar problems with a few models, many of our models were first time vids too, so thatīs what we promoted the sites as, "(models name) first time porn vids"...

itīll sell better too if you promote it correctly. You took her porn vid virginity


as far as using her content for a site, you can do what you want with the content if youīve got her sig and ID, but just go on the official site, because obviously itīs not as you wonīt be able to continue filming more
We won't be able to film more as I wouldn't go near the diva with a barge pole... her boyfriend as committed multiple accounts of liable as well as threatening in a malicious way... the police are dealing with that right now though...

The content is 100% ours... and the model release and ID give us absolute rights over it and it's use... Plenty of content of different models as been and will continue to be used for all sorts of things, she was ok when she was counting the money we paid her, so much so she obviously didn't bother to read the release...

And the irony is I would of changed things if she had bothered to speak to me properly... but the first contact was gobbing off demanding shit... sigh
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Yes and your a prize one, had plenty of BS off you in the past, so no surprise you giving it large again...

So just to clarify your ok with the traffic leaks all over her site ?
You already said it yourself. Her biggest issue is the fact that you are making fraudulent misrepresentations.

It's pretty simple to deal with and very straight forward for anyone that isn't a fucking retard. Or maybe you'd like me to snap some pics of you give you some cash and start calling it your "official site" as if a model release gives me the right to do that?

don't be a fucking moron.

well,... you can't help it, i guess. but try to be a fucking moron less at least.
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I don't understand...it's her site you linked to.
And I don't see any webmaster program..so it's her own traffic.

How do you have a "traffic leak" of your OWN traffic? It's impossible.

A "traffic leak" only occurs when an affiliate is sending you traffic and you have links that take their traffic somewhere else.
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I don't understand...it's her site you linked to.
And I don't see any webmaster program..so it's her own traffic.

How do you have a "traffic leak" of your OWN traffic? It's impossible.

A "traffic leak" only occurs when an affiliate is sending you traffic and you have links that take their traffic somewhere else.

Nope she has a Verotel webmaster sign up link to earn 50% of sales...Affiliate ? Chloes Toy Box ? My Official Website | UK Adult Fetish Model XXX

I was going to sign up myself and send some traffic, then I noticed all the links to her clip sites, just surprised me as I know people used to explode about such things... but it's all good, maybe no one is promoting her
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You already said it yourself. Her biggest issue is the fact that you are making fraudulent misrepresentations.

It's pretty simple to deal with and very straight forward for anyone that isn't a fucking retard. Or maybe you'd like me to snap some pics of you give you some cash and start calling it your "official site" as if a model release gives me the right to do that?

don't be a fucking moron.

well,... you can't help it, i guess. but try to be a fucking moron less at least.
Here's the thing, we was going to change it before she went off on one... it's with Model Centro and it's a template site... the wording is the same for all the sites... cause, surprise surprise (no not Cilla Black) a lot of people create sites with content they have shot/bought and they (via their model release) have create license on the wording... and I mean absolute... trust me our model release allows us to use the content we paid for however we want...

How many girls images get used for premium rate call lines, we knew a girl who only shot topless, shot for a particular newspaper in the UK, and got put in the sex lines page, with I am your little fuck slut call me now next to her... she wasn't happy, her family and friends all see it, but that's business...

Anyways back on track... was going to be changing the text anyways, then she goes off on one demanding shit... she is talking 100% BS, we told her from day 1 we'd be doing a paysite, she tells every one that she thought we paid her Ģ3000 to do a tribute site to send traffic and sales to the site she intended to do... yeah of course that's what we would do with our investment...

If she'd just asked normally instead of making demands the changes would of already been made... if her boyfriend hadn't committed liable on Twitter and made malicious threats, the changes would of been made... even though it's something I will still probably change (fuck knows why) I will do it through gritted teeth... <<< that's me with gritted teeth...
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