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Old 04-12-2017, 12:31 PM   #1
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Russia Vetoes UN Resolution to Investigate Syrian Gas Attack on Civilians & Children

Putin doesn't even want the Syrian gas attacks investigated, what is Putin hiding? Sounds like Putin did the gassing not Assad. No other reason Putin wouldn't want U.N. investigating.
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United States doesnt even ask for any UN resolutions. It just attacks who it wants, wherever it wants and how it wants (ALMOST)
US= UN !
hurra, hurra, hurra US !

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Like pooty gives 3 shits LOL

Pooty > USA

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1:59 p.m. As the conference opened up to questions, Tillerson said it is ?conclusive? that Syrian president Bashar al-Assad?s regime is behind the chemical attack.

But Lavrov said Russia ?insists? there be an investigation.

?As for the investigation into the incident, there is a fact-finding mission of the OPCW, there is also a joint mechanism for an investigation set out together by the OPCW and the United nations,? Lavrov said.

... Syria Chemical Attack: Russia wants ?frank investigation?

1:40 p.m. Lavrov called the talks between Tillerson and himself ?constructive.? Lavrov said they have ?touched on? the chemical gas attack that took place in Syria last week, and the ensuing U.S. missile strike on a Syrian airbase.

?We have stated our position on many occasions,? Lavrov said, saying Russia wants a ?frank investigation? of the chemical attack by the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW).
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Russia vetoed a UN resolution Wednesday that would have required Syria to cooperate with investigators and face full accountability after a brutal chemical attack in that country.

It's the eighth time Russia has vetoed a proposed Security Council resolution on Syria.
The resolution, crafted by the United States, United Kingdom and France, was circulated to the 15 member countries of the Security Council on Tuesday.

Western ambassadors blasted Russia earlier Wednesday for continuing to support Syrian President Bashar al-Assad




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The security council veto rule needs to be replaced with a 3/4 yes vote super-majority rule.

Or, the UN is to be considered an advisory body.
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Putin is hiding something he doesn't want the U.N. to find. What is it?

Why does Putin say nothing can be proven then veto an investigation to verify the truth?

Putin is hiding the fact that either Russia released the chemical weapons themselves or knew they were going to be administered violating U.N. treaties for members use of chemical weapons which means Russia can be removed from NATO for such violations, they would be the first.
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No one proof only speculation
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One theory being kicked around;

Syria said to have Iraq arms - tribunedigital-chicagotribune

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October 29, 2003|By Douglas Jehl, New York Times News Service.

WASHINGTON — The director of a top U.S. spy agency said Tuesday that he believes that material from Iraq's illicit weapons program had been transported into Syria and perhaps other countries as part of an effort by the Iraqis to disperse and destroy evidence immediately before the recent war.

The official, James Clapper Jr., a retired lieutenant general, said satellite imagery showing a heavy flow of traffic from Iraq into Syria, just before the U.S. invasion in March, led him to believe that illicit weapons material "unquestionably" had been moved out of Iraq ...
Autopsies and forensic evidence all prove the nerve agent Sarin was used -- by whom is the question and one UN investigation has already been vetoed by the Russians who would be able to give access to the area chemical weapons were used (or dispersed) last week. That is strong circumstantial evidence of guilt
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Why wouldn't they want this investigated? Don't they want the truth to come out?
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Are you intentionally hiding the real reason for the Veto or do you not know? So far this thread is fake news
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Of course he doesn't want an investigation. It might reveal the Russians were complicit.
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LOL why would pooty let the same guys "investigate" that said Saddam had WMD? The same guys who destabilized Syria in the first place? The same people who false flagged the attack on dozens of tactically insignificant targets...It is amusing to see western people pretend that they have an ounce of credibility ...
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Does it matter if you die of gas or a bullet/bomb/hunger?

All bla bla to distract the problem; there is a war and no solution.
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Assaf must go












Only one right way. After fix problem with Assad
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Syrian propaganda?
" The General Command of the Army and Armed Forces said that the aircrafts of the so-called ?US-led International Alliance? on Wednesday between the hour 17:30 and 17:50 carried out an airstrike against a position of ISIS terrorists that includes a large number of foreign mercenaries in the village of Hatla to the east of Deir Ezzor, causing a white cloud that became yellow as a result of the explosion of a huge store that includes a large amount of toxic materials."

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Army Â*General Command: Hundreds, including civilians, killed in Int’l Alliance airstrike on ISIS depot that includes toxic materials in Deir Ezzor Â* – Syrian Arab News Agency

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The UN was just a waste of time albeit a necessary step.
Putin has his back to the sea in Syria.
Iraqi and Kurdish troops are advancing from the east and north east with US led coalition air support -- they may not stop at Raqqa.
Throw Assad under the Bus and maybe Russia gets to keep its air and navy bases in the settlement to come -- time is running out.

Post all the pictures and denials you want you are stuck in the mud again.
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The UN was just a waste of time albeit a necessary step.
Putin has his back to the sea in Syria.
Iraqi and Kurdish troops are advancing from the east and north east with US led coalition air support -- they may not stop at Raqqa.
Throw Assad under the Bus and maybe Russia gets to keep its air and navy bases in the settlement to come -- time is running out.

Post all the pictures and denials you want you are stuck in the mud again.
USA do it illegal! It is aggression against sovereign country - war crimes.
Iran not want see Assad in syria because he is secular guy too.
This what have are isis.


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Iraqi and Kurdish troops are advancing from the east and north east with US led coalition air support -- they may not stop at Raqqa.
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For Kurdish have Turkey))
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Propaganda -- Next time may be the last time. INCOMING
You Russians are right in the middle of a hornets nest.
Parroting the Russian MoD line?

Why would Putin meet with a US Secretary of State yesterday? Tillson brought a message for Putin I am guessing.

Putin is taking Russia down the rabbit hole
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Propaganda -- Next time may be the last time. INCOMING
You Russians are right in the middle of a hornets nest.
Parroting the Russian MoD line?
Why would Putin meet with a US Secretary of State yesterday? Tillson brought a message for Putin I am guessing.
Putin is taking Russia down the rabbit hole
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He make money, make privatisation property in low prices inside, real estate stay cheap and many people will can buy.

Russian Billionaires, Including Several Tied To Putin, Are Up $104 Billion In The Last Year
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USA do it illegal! It is aggression against sovereign country - war crimes.
Iran not want see Assad in syria because he is secular guy too.
This what have are isis.


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Putin doesn't even want the Syrian gas attacks investigated, what is Putin hiding? Sounds like Putin did the gassing not Assad. No other reason Putin wouldn't want U.N. investigating.
I think Saddam did it .....


BTW, read the first part of the resolution , and replsace Syria withj Israrel . Then sask yourself if the US weould have vetoed it ...
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Where do you think the terrorists in Chechnya and Dagestan are getting their money from -- Iran the Persian Empire's modern day successor. You took their lands in war. And they are Putin's BFF Assad's allies. The Russian people are getting played by Putin.

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As Russia set off for the first time to increase its political influence in the Caucasus and the Caspian Sea at the expense of Safavid Persia, Peter I launched the Russo-Persian War (1722–1723), in which Russia succeeded in taking much of the Caucasian territories from Iran for several years. Notable in Chechen history, this particular Russo-Persian War marked the first military encounter between Imperial Russia and the Vainakh.[30]

As the Russians took control of the Caspian corridor and moved into Persian-ruled Dagestan, Peter's forces ran into mountain tribes. Peter sent a cavalry force to subdue them, but the Chechens routed them.[30] In 1732, after Russia already ceded back most of the Caucasus to Persia, now led by Nader Shah, following the Treaty of Resht, Russian troops clashed again with Chechens in a village called Chechen-aul along the Argun River.[30] The Russians were defeated again and withdrew, but this battle is responsible for the apocryphal story about how the Nokchi came to be known as "Chechens"-the people ostensibly named for the place the battle had taken place. The name Chechen was however already used since as early as 1692.[30]
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The Americans should bomb anyone they like... I don't care...
The annoying part is all the lies; hypocrisy; idiocy; bullshit about democracy and all the other moral bullshit which disguises their real agenda...

They are so dishonest and also so stupid and clear about it, that I feel my intelligence is being insulted on a regular basis....
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Where do you think the terrorists in Chechnya and Dagestan are getting their money from -- Iran the Persian Empire's modern day successor. You took their lands in war. And they are Putin's BFF Assad's allies. The Russian people are getting played by Putin.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chechnya
We know USA on isis side))

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...volving_Russia
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The US allied Arab governments help create the ISIS problem. The US is just as dumb as the Russians there -- playing with forces in the Middle East they don't understand -- just like the British Empire that was their before them.

Alexander the Great was the last guy to get it right in the Middle East.
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Another FAKE title ( Fake News ) by the OP ... as usual .
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The US allied Arab governments help create the ISIS problem. The US is just as dumb as the Russians there -- playing with forces in the Middle East they don't understand -- just like the British Empire that was their before them.

Alexander the Great was the last guy to get it right in the Middle East.
If we withdraw our troops. This ISIS problem will become a problem for Europe and the United States - like al qaeda before.
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fuck them with big dynamite into their assholes.
For guys (sheikhs, imams, intelligence agents and connections) that command them and fuel hate i have even better idea that would absolutely prolonge their "leaving process".....
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If we withdraw our troops. This ISIS problem will become a problem for Europe and the United States - like al qaeda before.
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No one proof only speculation
This is the Putin line: "no proof"

The first thing a CRIMINAL says is "no proof" "prove it".

Innocent people say "what can we do to help you find the CRIMINAL"

ALL of the U.N. wants to find the truth in Syria, ONLY Russia says VETO finding the truth, because Putin wants to hide the truth from the world AGAIN.
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This is the Putin line: "no proof"

The first thing a CRIMINAL says is "no proof" "prove it".

Innocent people say "what can we do to help you find the CRIMINAL"

ALL of the U.N. wants to find the truth in Syria, ONLY Russia says VETO finding the truth, because Putin wants to hide the truth from the world AGAIN.
After zarin used - people die during 60 seconds maximum, not more. And if you without gas mask the toxic agent can get through even the mucus eye.


US resolution in UN write for to blame Assads army. And for justification USA bombing (100% illegal)

"The three countries blamed Syrian President Bashar al-Assad's forces for the attack, which killed dozens of people. The Syrian military denied responsibility and said it would never use chemical weapons."
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"In February, Russia, backed by China, cast its seventh veto to protect Assad's government from council action, blocking a bid by Western powers to impose sanctions."
U.S., France, Britain propose U.N. resolution on Syria gas attack | Reuters

Why we must accept it? We not be support speculation and blame before investigation. But for fake news it favorite fetish - hillary ang gmail, hillary and bengazi, trump and russia, trump and putin, russian hackers and usa election, Boing in Ukraine now chemical weapon and assad.
No one investigation not have success.
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fuck them with big dynamite into their assholes.
For guys (sheikhs, imams, intelligence agents and connections) that command them and fuel hate i have even better idea that would absolutely prolonge their "leaving process".....
We need withdraw our troops
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Why we must accept it? We not be support speculation and blame before investigation. But for fake news it favorite fetish - hillary ang gmail, hillary and bengazi, trump and russia, trump and putin, russian hackers and usa election, Boing in Ukraine now chemical weapon and assad.
No one investigation not have success.
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If we withdraw our troops. This ISIS problem will become a problem for Europe and the United States - like al qaeda before.
If Russia withdraws its troops its Mediterranean warm water air and naval bases will be overrun.
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Not at all. A military action against a government or a military force is not a war crime.

War in itself is not a crime or illegal. There is no law that says one country cannot make war with another country.
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is US in state of war with Syria ?
American bombs kill Syrians on Syrian soil. Not all killed are guilty of something. Who gave you a right to do it ? Are Syrians allowed to react with "terrorist" act on US soil (ie: attack on power plant), or it will be "bad terrorist" act ?
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Not at all. A military action against a government or a military force is not a war crime.

War in itself is not a crime or illegal. There is no law that says one country cannot make war with another country.
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Old 04-13-2017, 09:51 AM   #45
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is US in state of war with Syria ?
American bombs kill Syrians on Syrian soil. Not all killed are guilty of something. Who gave you a right to do it ? Are Syrians allowed to react with "terrorist" act on US soil (ie: attack on power plant), or it will be "bad terrorist" act ?
good luck being a puppy of Israel
it is never terrorism when the US government does it because: double standard
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it is never terrorism when the US government does it because: double standard
And Putin lies about everything wrong he does, all the death he's given the world. Putin never keeps his agreements Russia needs a new leader & one that's not a dictator.
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United States doesnt even ask for any UN resolutions. It just attacks who it wants, wherever it wants and how it wants (ALMOST)
US= UN !
hurra, hurra, hurra US !

spreading democracy since 1898 !
so does russia though

also, i've noticed the more ogre laughs used the more full of shit the poster is. is it a coincidence?
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And Putin lies about everything wrong he does, all the death he's given the world. Putin never keeps his agreements Russia needs a new leader & one that's not a dictator.
Dude are you high? LOL...How about all the ex POTUS since ww2? All lying war criminals every single one...Get a grip LOL
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Are you intentionally hiding the real reason for the Veto or do you not know? So far this thread is fake news
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Another FAKE title ( Fake News ) by the OP ... as usual .
I understand you guys have a self perceived sense of intelligence but on cnn it shows the vote itself. What exactly is fake about that? the vote was over the investigation in to the attacks.

Trumps hand picked representative for the UN even states it after:

US Ambassador to the UN Nikki Haley told the council that "with its veto, Russia said no to accountability, Russia said no to cooperating with the UN investigation, Russia said no to helping keep peace in Syria, Russia chose to side with (Syrian President Bashar al-) Assad, even as rest of the world, even the Arab world, comes together to condemn the murderous regime."
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It's interesting but Russia has very sexist laws. For example, if a woman here will murder and eat 1000000000 kids, she can not be imprisoned for life (25 years is max that she can get). If a male will commit such a crime, he will never leave the jail. We have no death penalty in Russia. A lifetime prison is a max punishment, but it does work for the 18+ men only.

Also you have posted a picture of a mentally ill man. He is not drunk. He is sick. A Polish (ah?) journalist has found him and took an interview of that world-known "always drunk Russian" (the dude is unable to speak but he understands everything). He've got a cerebration trauma during his birth (doctors have used forceps to pull him out). It's so funny right?

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