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NatalieK · 04-04-2017, 06:44 PM

some one always has to start something good, so here´s #gloryholeWednesday

Sign up now & send your quality traffic to my official ModelCentro website NatalieK | Splash

https://twitter.com/TheNatalieK/stat...26749683355649

I´m updating many videos through the day with a $2 trial and $20 every month there after...

My retention´s good, due to the constant commitment to my fans

We´ve updated a Pornhub free vid, with clips of my gloryhole footage, a worthy sale and recurring for those in real business

Sign up at my affiliate program NatalieKash

more details my blog Gloryhole Wednesday | NatalieKash

All the best, hope to have you onboard, have a great week of business

TimS · 04-05-2017, 07:12 AM

Nice Glory hole pics and the trial price of $2 looks like it may be a great draw.
She always seems to be working and updating her site for her fans.

yuu.design · 04-05-2017, 10:22 AM

Good luck Natalie

NatalieK · 04-06-2017, 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by TimS

Nice Glory hole pics and the trial price of $2 looks like it may be a great draw.
She always seems to be working and updating her site for her fans.

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Originally Posted by yuu

Good luck Natalie

thank you guys!

Was a fun day & going to do the same promotion every week offering $2 for the day & $20 every month there after...

probably only update 2 gloryhole vids next week & onwards, but that´s a big amount of updates to any site

CaptainHowdy · 04-06-2017, 11:44 AM

Gloryholes always give me the feeling that my cock won't go through the hole ...

Ferus · 04-06-2017, 12:50 PM

Good to see you work on the content

NatalieK · 04-07-2017, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy

Gloryholes always give me the feeling that my cock won't go through the hole ...

you´d always get your cock through my gloryholes

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Originally Posted by Ferus

Good to see you work on the content

We do work very hard at our content, trying to be original...

a few of the movies are filmed from both sides, giving the viewer the additional POV amateur feel, being there in the party, reality footage of course

NatalieK · 04-11-2017, 01:12 PM

As last week was a success & my fans like my gloryhole footage, I´m going to have #GloryHoleWednesday each week for those of you with gloryhole traffic, a great day to send your traffic & you could sign up to my ModelCentro program & send your traffic directly to the "gloryhole" niche video page...

NatalieK

those with other niche, please do run through my niches & find tonnes of footage perfect for your traffic

NatalieK · 04-19-2017, 05:11 AM

Updating with photos & vids, your traffic can join for just $2 today & $20 a month there after!

Sign up to my cash program today & let´s make your traffic turn into your income

NatalieKash

RandyRandy · 04-19-2017, 08:23 AM

My first (and only) gloryhole experience was at a club in Paris in 1989. I imagined it was Vanessa Paradis on the other side, but it was probably François Mitterand. Either way it was a good experience.

NatalieK · 04-26-2017, 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by RandyRandy

My first (and only) gloryhole experience was at a club in Paris in 1989. I imagined it was Vanessa Paradis on the other side, but it was probably François Mitterand. Either way it was a good experience.

`Sounds awesome & pleased you had a great experience!

All mine have been fun, very adventurous & my films are shot from both sides, so it´s like reality party content too

Happy #GloryholeWednesday

Bladewire · 04-26-2017, 12:09 PM

Bump for business

rogueteens · 04-26-2017, 12:33 PM

Least convincing gloryhole I've ever seen but its the most flattering photos of Natalie I've seen too.

SEXMEX · 04-26-2017, 12:46 PM

That looks like money, congrats

NatalieK · 04-26-2017, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by rogueteens

Least convincing gloryhole I've ever seen but its the most flattering photos of Natalie I've seen too.

check out my vids, the previews speak for themselves...

NatalieK

My gloryhole parties are the most convincing stranger reality party gloryholes, considering they all have been reality gloryhole parties, all strangers & all bareback, no BS in my content

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Originally Posted by Bladewire

Bump for business

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Originally Posted by SEXMEX

That looks like money, congrats

thank you gratefully!

& yes so far, my traffic to sales ratio has boomed to 1:124 from 28th March to 26th April

j3rkules · 04-26-2017, 01:49 PM

Nice to see a business related thread. Have a luck everyone.

rogueteens · 04-27-2017, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by GspotProductions

check out my vids, the previews speak for themselves...

NatalieK

My gloryhole parties are the most convincing stranger reality party gloryholes, considering they all have been reality gloryhole parties, all strangers & all bareback, no BS in my content

I was talking about the set, not the action - it couldn't be more obvious it's a studio and not some mucky toilet or porno theatre.

NatalieK · 04-27-2017, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by rogueteens

I was talking about the set, not the action - it couldn't be more obvious it's a studio and not some mucky toilet or porno theatre.

ahhh yes, I suppose, it´s not in a mucky toilet, but it was all reality parties with strangers that just turned up, paid to come in & enjoy partying all night one side of the wall with me the other in our studio, a room converted in our home.

I think most gloryhole vids are set up with actors & actresses, mine are all strangers, the most important part to the gloryhole

rogueteens · 04-27-2017, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by GspotProductions

I think most gloryhole vids are set up with actors & actresses, mine are all strangers, the most important part to the gloryhole

I'm sure but you'll convince no one that they really are strangers if its filmed on a set, surely?

NatalieK · 04-27-2017, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by rogueteens

I'm sure but you'll convince no one that they really are strangers if its filmed on a set, surely?

we´re making sales & all my fans are pleased with the vids, speaks for itself.

Some of the vids have filming from both sides, so you can see & hear it´s a party and no one´s met each other. My fans have said it´s better than a fake toilet.

At lots of swing parties these days, there´s gloryholes, so they´re not in dirty places anymore, it´s the part of not seeing the other person as you fuck...

Atm, I´ve so many paying fans direct message me on my internal messaging, it gets a little hectic. I´m always happy to film custom vids for them too, this is great for retention but again, pretty hectic

Tiodor*com · 04-27-2017, 12:09 PM

Awesome as always

Olga BongaCash · 04-28-2017, 02:15 AM

nice work, Natalie!

brassmonkey · 04-28-2017, 06:36 AM

does mc profits have a export tool?

nevermind got them

i noticed with adblocker your gallery won't show

NatalieK · 04-28-2017, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

does mc profits have a export tool?

nevermind got them

i noticed with adblocker your gallery won't show

interesting & does that mean all of MC galleries? if so, ModelCentro needs to look into this!

& thank you Tiodor*com & Olga! x

Kittens · 04-28-2017, 10:50 AM

Why do you always have your hair pulled back to the point it looks like your scalp is gonna get ripped off?

brassmonkey · 04-28-2017, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by GspotProductions

interesting & does that mean all of MC galleries? if so, ModelCentro needs to look into this!

yes it does. i can't add them to my site until they are fixed

blackmonsters · 04-28-2017, 12:13 PM

Another bump for someone actually doing business here.

NatalieK · 04-28-2017, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Kittens

Why do you always have your hair pulled back to the point it looks like your scalp is gonna get ripped off?

Nice trolling, but sadly you´re wrong considering I do my hair different every few days...

Bedroom with joanne | NatalieK

NatalieK

NatalieK

NatalieK

NatalieK

shall I continue?

TBH, amazing you´re asking about my hair being tied back, most women covering their faces use it as a defence, like to hide. I like my face, i´m pretty, so I show my face.

Thanks for noticing some of my days I have my hair back, although other days, I have it hanging different sides & some times just down both sides

Also, to have a conversion rate of 1:124 I must be doing something right

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

yes it does. i can't add them to my site until they are fixed

OK, thank you BM, i´ll speak with MC & hope they can be done

brassmonkey · 04-28-2017, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by GspotProductions

OK, thank you BM, i´ll speak with MC & hope they can be done

look at them in firefox with ad blocker plus

NatalieK · 04-28-2017, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

look at them in firefox with ad blocker plus

I´ve notified MC, just waiting on them to get back to me & see what´s happened or if they can do something about it. Hopefully someone will come in the thread & let us know

SEXMEX · 04-28-2017, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GspotProductions

thank you gratefully!

& yes so far, my traffic to sales ratio has boomed to 1:124 from 28th March to 26th April

nice stats, hope april was also good

Kittens · 04-28-2017, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by GspotProductions

Nice trolling

I don't think that word means what you think it means.

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Originally Posted by GspotProductions

but sadly you´re wrong considering I do my hair different every few days...

I'm sorry, I don't look at your pictures all day every day. I just see what you show here, and everything shows the same hair style.

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Originally Posted by GspotProductions

shall I continue?

Pics plz, I don't have time to watch videos to see different hair styles.

I skipped a head in one, where you have the pin in your hair, it looks nice, far better than scalp on the verge of ripping from your face.

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Originally Posted by GspotProductions

TBH, amazing you´re asking about my hair being tied back, most women covering their faces use it as a defence, like to hide. I like my face, i´m pretty, so I show my face.

ok...?

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Originally Posted by GspotProductions

Also, to have a conversion rate of 1:124 I must be doing something right

Stop trying to sell all the time, we're sellers ourselves. You try to hard to convert GFY members to be your customers. Just talk normally.

Relic · 04-28-2017, 02:11 PM

NatalieK · 04-28-2017, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by GspotProductions

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kittens

I'm sorry, I don't look at your pictures all day every day. I just see what you show here, and everything shows the same hair style.

I got trolling right... coz I call BS to the above comment.

The forth photo I showed in this thread shows my hair hanging down & not pulled back in a pony tail or pulled hard from my head, just a hair band around my head.

Anyway, seems Retired ole relic´s here now too, I suppose it got too much to stay out from trolling a true business thread

& please don´t continue about rules or what I should do in this forum when you don´t even follow the rules with your sig, we already know about that

Kittens · 04-29-2017, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by GspotProductions

please don´t continue about rules or what I should do in this forum when you don´t even follow the rules with your sig, we already know about that

NatalieK · 04-29-2017, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters

Another bump for someone actually doing business here.

thank you gratefully for the bump & notice of real business. Busy every day with our members, affiliates, filming & socialising

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Originally Posted by SEXMEX

nice stats, hope april was also good

yes, we´re pleased with them, now hoping we can gain a high retention, retention gives the mass of members needed in any website. Thank you for your post x

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

i can't add them to my site until they are fixed

I´ve left messages with the MC team, Andrea has passed this information onto the tech team, so hopefully have some good news soon! Thank you BM x

NatalieK · 05-03-2017, 03:53 AM

Here we are again, another fantastic #GloryholeWednesday...

convert your traffic today into an income with my 5day for $5 special deal converting to just $18!

Let´s make money, i´m so fucking horny & i´m chatting to my fans in my internal direct messaging, sending them private pics & filming customs for them inc. in their passes.

Sign up now NatalieKash

LovinNothin · 05-03-2017, 04:00 AM

"OH Yes! Come sign up to our affiliate program NatalieK so we can skim any sale you make, IF you are lucky enough to make a sale for a website that features 20 year old porn, made in Russia, and can be seen anywhere on the internet for FREE."

NatalieK · 05-03-2017, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by LovinNothin

"OH Yes! Come sign up to our affiliate program NatalieK so we can skim any sale you make, IF you are lucky enough to make a sale for a website that features 20 year old porn, made in Russia, and can be seen anywhere on the internet for FREE."

I´d be careful, you don´t want to be banned for spouting a load of BS off...

My Monday & Friday updates are new vids, the rest of the week, my exclusive British archive updates. Therefore, even without my older unseen content updates, my site would still have more updates than many solo girl sites on the web

My site´s modelcentro, skimming, hmmm, you want to say that again & watch your ass get booted from here. Honest business is my only policy

With sales better than 1:200, you´re stupid not to sign up and sling traffic at my site, of course, unless you have no traffic, then you´d just be a troll...

oh, there you go

Bladewire · 05-03-2017, 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GspotProductions

I´d be careful, you don´t want to be banned for spouting a load of BS off...

My Monday & Friday updates are new vids, the rest of the week, my exclusive British archive updates. Therefore, even without my older unseen content updates, my site would still have more updates than many solo girl sites on the web

My site´s modelcentro, skimming, hmmm, you want to say that again & watch your ass get booted from here. Honest business is my only policy

With sales better than 1:200, you´re stupid not to sign up and sling traffic at my site, of course, unless you have no traffic, then you´d just be a troll...

oh, there you go

Interesting how an anymous fake ghost nic that hasn't posted for s decade comes in to trash the very few industry people on GFY doing business. Sabotage

"He" claims to be in the industry 30 years but posts threads asking about "fair use" of public domain footage for porn and gives no links or references to his content or social media. Fake account for your GFY stalker? What's his name?

Guido-Centro · 05-04-2017, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by GspotProductions

interesting & does that mean all of MC galleries? if so, ModelCentro needs to look into this!

& thank you Tiodor*com & Olga! x

Hi all,
We're looking into the issue with adblocker.

Nice thread Natalie

brassmonkey · 05-04-2017, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Guido-Centro

Hi all,
We're looking into the issue with adblocker.

Nice thread Natalie

niccceeee

i added a direct link instead till the op

NatalieK · 05-04-2017, 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guido-Centro

Hi all,
We're looking into the issue with adblocker.

Nice thread Natalie

Thank you Guido, for both the compliment & the status!

MC´s seriously the simplest & direct DB for site owners with an efficient tech team, fantastic staff & of course, the best & sexiest of models

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

niccceeee

i added a direct link instead till the op

thank you BM. In the meantime while MC work on it, anything else you need, just holla. I´ve got clips, images, banners & gifs available for your use

NatalieK · 05-10-2017, 03:04 PM

Information update. The recent problem BrassMonkey had with ModelCentro FHG´s not displaying in FF has been resolved since the recent update from FF.

Thank you for the original information BM, glad the situation has been resolved!

Bladewire · 05-10-2017, 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GspotProductions

Information update. The recent problem BrassMonkey had with ModelCentro FHG´s not displaying in FF has been resolved since the recent update from FF.

Thank you for the original information BM, glad the situation has been resolved!

This is excellent news!

NatalieK · 05-17-2017, 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire

This is excellent news!

thank you Blade, absolutely!

Sales ration still at a high & with another Wednesday on us, I´ll be updating more gloryhole vids later today!

Now with a nice collection, all those with gloryhole traffic can link to my page...

https://nataliek.xxx/videos/tags=gloryhole

have a great day!

NatalieK · 06-07-2017, 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

niccceeee

i added a direct link instead till the op

hey bm, do you need any content, because i´ve still got a good ratio, many people are still only sending few hits a month though...

would love to see you make dollar with my site

redwhiteandblue · 06-07-2017, 02:27 PM

If you have tube clips and your ratios are what you say they are, I can send you some sales.

NatalieK · 06-07-2017, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by redwhiteandblue

If you have tube clips and your ratios are what you say they are, I can send you some sales.

sign up & email Gary, he´ll send you to tube clips or arrange something with you

[email protected]

x

04-04-2017, 06:44 PM	#1
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