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wehateporn · 04-04-2017, 01:40 AM

Is there a way of combining the best of both worlds?

Adraco · 04-04-2017, 02:08 AM

Yes you can

247mg · 04-04-2017, 02:31 AM

Yes you can....

wehateporn · 04-04-2017, 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Adraco

Yes you can

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Originally Posted by 247mg

Yes you can....

So NATS is better conversions, and CCBill brings in the affiliates as they get the payments grouped together, so is that the best way to work to get the best of both worlds?

BigFurry · 04-04-2017, 03:04 AM

You can set up a "CCBILL PAID" program in NATS, which means that affiliates will get paid by CCBILL indeed.

BUT that's only if you use CCBILL as the only biller as far as I know. If the program wants to add other billers, they will have to handle those affiliate payments for those sales themselves.

Also I have seen some bugs with this CCBILL PAID thing in the past, joins appearing in NATS but not in my CCBILL affiliate...

While I like NATS, I don't think that switching to NATS by itself would improve conversions. I think it's often that the NATS programs manage their sites better, update more, have multiple billers, etc.

But I'm sure in some cases NATS would be an improvement. I have seen some custom solutions built around CCBILL on some paysites. Eg. users have to register first instead of paying right away. I have a hunch some of those don't track properly, and NATS would be much better.

wehateporn · 04-04-2017, 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by BigFurry

You can set up a "CCBILL PAID" program in NATS, which means that affiliates will get paid by CCBILL indeed.

BUT that's only if you use CCBILL as the only biller as far as I know. If the program wants to add other billers, they will have to handle those affiliate payments for those sales themselves.

Also I have seen some bugs with this CCBILL PAID thing in the past, joins appearing in NATS but not in my CCBILL affiliate...

While I like NATS, I don't think that switching to NATS by itself would improve conversions. I think it's often that the NATS programs manage their sites better, update more, have multiple billers, etc.

But I'm sure in some cases NATS would be an improvement. I have seen some custom solutions built around CCBILL on some paysites. Eg. users have to register first instead of paying right away. I have a hunch some of those don't track properly, and NATS would be much better.

Thank you BigFurry

femdomdestiny · 04-04-2017, 03:21 AM

It is the only way when I would consider promoting a sponsor using NATS. Everything else sucks for me and most of the small affiliates. Had so many problems with NATS programs in previous years that I simply dropped most of them. Still, I am with few that are having good rebills but that's it. I don't want to be dependent on their minimap payouts or will they miss the payment date or simply not respond to emails.

wehateporn · 04-04-2017, 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by femdomdestiny

It is the only way when I would consider promoting a sponsor using NATS. Everything else sucks for me and most of the small affiliates. Had so many problems with NATS programs in previous years that I simply dropped most of them. Still, I am with few that are having good rebills but that's it. I don't want to be dependent on their minimap payouts or will they miss the payment date or simply not respond to emails.

Thank you for sharing your experience and thoughts

yuu.design · 04-04-2017, 06:24 AM

yes, tons of people are doing that

2MuchMark · 04-04-2017, 06:55 AM

Wow, a useful thread!!

I vote for more of these.

SpicyM · 04-04-2017, 08:10 AM

Why would you pay for nats if you want to use ccbill? As far as I know, you can cascade from ccbill to another biller as well, so I don't see any reason why pay another monthly fee for nats license.

247mg · 04-04-2017, 08:31 AM

Use NATS as a ccbill paid program. Your conversion will be based on CCBILL not on NATS.

Neighbor · 04-04-2017, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn

Is there a way of combining the best of both worlds?

There certainly is. I can assist you with understanding how that is done although I see some of our clients have already provided some valuable information.

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Originally Posted by BigFurry

You can set up a "CCBILL PAID" program in NATS, which means that affiliates will get paid by CCBILL indeed.

BUT that's only if you use CCBILL as the only biller as far as I know. If the program wants to add other billers, they will have to handle those affiliate payments for those sales themselves.

Also I have seen some bugs with this CCBILL PAID thing in the past, joins appearing in NATS but not in my CCBILL affiliate...

While I like NATS, I don't think that switching to NATS by itself would improve conversions. I think it's often that the NATS programs manage their sites better, update more, have multiple billers, etc.

But I'm sure in some cases NATS would be an improvement. I have seen some custom solutions built around CCBILL on some paysites. Eg. users have to register first instead of paying right away. I have a hunch some of those don't track properly, and NATS would be much better.

Nice job BigFurry. The actual feature you would use to allow CCBill to make your affiliate payments is called CCBill Paid Program. Yes this means CCBill would have to be the payment processor to payout affiliates. Additionally you can set this up so that affiliate traffic is directed to the CCBill cascade for the purpose of affiliate payouts, and any organic traffic can go through a different cascade where perhaps you have another cascade setup with different billing options.

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Originally Posted by SpicyM

Why would you pay for nats if you want to use ccbill? As far as I know, you can cascade from ccbill to another biller as well, so I don't see any reason why pay another monthly fee for nats license.

Spicy, while CCBill is a great partner of ours, the features and overall capabilities in NATS exceed what is possible in CCBill's program. I'm not knocking them by any means, as we work very closely with them, but there is a huge difference in the capabilities of the 2 solutions.

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BigFurry Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,509	You can set up a "CCBILL PAID" program in NATS, which means that affiliates will get paid by CCBILL indeed. BUT that's only if you use CCBILL as the only biller as far as I know. If the program wants to add other billers, they will have to handle those affiliate payments for those sales themselves. Also I have seen some bugs with this CCBILL PAID thing in the past, joins appearing in NATS but not in my CCBILL affiliate... While I like NATS, I don't think that switching to NATS by itself would improve conversions. I think it's often that the NATS programs manage their sites better, update more, have multiple billers, etc. But I'm sure in some cases NATS would be an improvement. I have seen some custom solutions built around CCBILL on some paysites. Eg. users have to register first instead of paying right away. I have a hunch some of those don't track properly, and NATS would be much better.

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