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Old 03-26-2017, 02:29 PM   #1
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Finaly ! Oil Country ! KeyStone Pipeline is ON. Thanks Trumps for Creating new Jobs

Thanks Trumps for Creating JOBS for North America Oils Trades Mens will be very happy to hear this.

This have been my only regret with Obama administration to slow down the process to get this started.
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It's being built with Russian steel



He lied about building it with only American steel in his executive order.








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Dammit self fish i am. Sorry for the American Citizen But for us in Canada this will help our Economy and more specific for us in Alberta
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Dammit self fish i am. Sorry for the American Citizen But for us in Canada this will help our Economy and more specific for us in Alberta
and if you wait 4 or 5 years til the pipeline leaks the oil into the national park water - you can even send more oil through :-)
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and if you wait 4 or 5 years til the pipeline leaks the oil into the national park water - you can even send more oil through :-)
I can only talk about Canada side with the maintenance of our Pipeline road
( I have work as Mobile Sandblaster/ Painter for over 5 yrs here in Alberta back in 2006+)

Those PipeLine in Canada are very well maintain and all inspected yearly INCH BY INCH if not more ,
to mesure how thick the Pipeline Steel is and in the Mean time if any part need to be replace they get Cut and Replace Very quick .

Sanblaster get in the hole and painter follow after this to put on a new Coat on. One Inch at the time lol no joke.

IMO our Canadian workers work hard to make it Safe for erveryone
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I can only talk about Canada side with the maintenance of our Pipeline road
( I have work as Mobile Sandblaster/ Painter for over 5 yrs here in Alberta back in 2006+)
Those PipeLine in Canada is inspected yearly INCH BY INCH if not more , to mesure the Pipeline Steel thickeness and in the Mean time
if any part need to be replace they get Cut and Replace Very quick .

Sanblaster get in the hole and painter follow after this to put on a new Coat.

IMO our Canadian workers work hard to make it Safe for erveryone
do they really ?


well the route goes only though a national park so not a big thing if THIS happens
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do they really ?


well the route goes only though a national park so not a big thing if THIS happens
Well this was not my Road schedule lol my work is top notch but i get it.
All what i say is for my self when i was working on maintenance for the pipeline this is what i was doing Daily.

But i get your opinion about it and yes im aware about those article.

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Those PipeLine in Canada are very well maintain and all inspected yearly INCH BY INCH if not more ,
Yikes! 1,047 Leaks


No shade on Canada but this is why I'm against the pipeline in the U.S. I'm 100% for making money with oil etc. For some reason we can do water pipes & gas pipes no problem but something about the technology transporting oil by pipe is flawed.

We'll have over 11,000 miles of pipeline for terrorists to bomb or run a truck through and light on fire its just stupid.
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Well this was not my Road schedule lol my work is top notch but i get it.
All what i say is for my self when i was working on maintenance for the pipeline this is what i was doing Daily.

But i get your opinion about it and yes im aware about those article.

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any platic bags in your house ?

Who are the consumers ?

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I fully understand what you want to tell me - and yes unfortuantely we still need it.
but there was a reason WHY obama stopped it - he did not do it because he wanted to fuck trumps business. and he was not the only one who was against this pipeline THERE.

i mean you would not want a chemical industry production in your garden, do you?

a national park should be one of the untouchable things where nature can still be nature - that is the basic idea of that.

second is, that you can not put such a pipleline on such a place over ground (than you can start building shopping centers there also) - and now ask the guys who are in charge of it HOW COMPLICATD (if not impossible) it is to maintain an underground pipeline.

the well known fact of ANY pipeline in the world is that only 90% of the oild pumped in is comming out at the other end. WHERE is the rest?
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there will be mistakes or accidents

just a matter of time. environment and people aroumd those mistakes/accidents are going to lose out in the future... bigtime
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Yikes! 1,047 Leaks


No shade on Canada but this is why I'm against the pipeline in the U.S. I'm 100% for making money with oil etc. For some reason we can do water pipes & gas pipes no problem but something about the technology transporting oil by pipe is flawed.

We'll have over 11,000 miles of pipeline for terrorists to bomb or run a truck through and light on fire its just stupid.
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Im going to get hit on this thread but is ok

I stand for my opinion. If it's not him it will be the next one anyhow keystone project was mean to happen.

Im going to add my minded set about this is by taking in consideration the need of the population of today.

Stop the oils completely tomorrow and what will happen ?

There nothing else as much effective and AT THIS PRICE POINT to replace this resource. Unless im missing something ...
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It's being built with Russian steel



He lied about building it with only American steel in his executive order.








You are either trolling, lying, or ignorant of the facts.

Which is it?

Is Russian Steel Being Imported for the Keystone XL Pipeline?
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I wonder if anyone gave thought to those in the railroad and trucking biz that will be loosing their jobs because of the pipeline does not require as many good paying jobs to transport that oil to Texas where it will be refined and exported?

It is a heavy oil and can not be refined just anywhere.
And it is cheaper oil because of that fact. The refined products have a high profit margin in South America.

Just something to think about I guess if we are really going to count jobs.
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Thanks Trumps for Creating JOBS for North America Oils Trades Mens will be very happy to hear this.

This have been my only regret with Obama administration to slow down the process to get this started.
30 whole long term jobs.. winning!

However this is still being challenged in the courts so, it's not gonna be going anywhere anytime soon...which means not so much MAGA...
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I wonder if anyone gave thought to those in the railroad and trucking biz that will be loosing their jobs because of the pipeline does not require as many good paying jobs to transport that oil to Texas where it will be refined and exported?

It is a heavy oil and can not be refined just anywhere.
And it is cheaper oil because of that fact. The refined products have a high profit margin in South America.

Just something to think about I guess if we are really going to count jobs.
Removing those truck from the road i have absolutely no problem with that.

There is a Surviving B.C.’s infamous ‘Highway Thru Hell’ | Driving

here in Canada, I have drive this road Day and Nights Every other weekend off not fun those Truck.

every morning you can count many have take the ditch " Driver fall as sleep " oups there another one JackKnife etc... Major problem with the icy road.


For us Oils is a big player in our economy http://www.albertacanada.com/files/a...esentation.pdf
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...workers work hard to make it Safe for erveryone ...
I have never, ever, in my life met a "worker" who actually *worked hard* - with these people it is more so that they are *hardly working*.
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I have never, ever, in my life met a "worker" who actually *worked hard* - with these people it is more so that they are *hardly working*.
LOL ,

Only a guy have Work on the Rigs would say something like this. Did you ?
IF you talk about my supervisor well OH yeah Lazy as fuck lol ....

As for my Self I ain't know Lazy lol , Bellow is this is what we was doing daily !

up to 80LB pressure on your shoulder 12 - 16 hours a day 21 days in 4 days out. Try it out lol

This pics is not me is only to illustrated what work we do for the one who dont know what were talking about.
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It's being built with Russian steel


fake news.

the pipe has been sitting in an obscure pipeyard in north dakota for years, waiting for obama. the king of fracking somehow thought one more pipeline was a big problem.

you cant help but post bullshit dumb lib.

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Has nothing to do with all the oil leaks in the Canadian part of the pipeline.
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Has nothing to do with all the oil leaks in the Canadian part of the pipeline.
Railway have many disater everyyear

Are you a consumer of any of the product you see listed above ?

If yes.... cmon Stop consume those and one day they will stop the production. IMO
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I saw photos of Alberta from the air. It looks like Mordor. Good luck cleaning that shit pile up.
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I saw photos of Alberta from the air. It looks like Mordor. Good luck cleaning that shit pile up.






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Want Jobs...
Build refinery in Canada and pipe it to the west coast and export it yourself.
Then you could have all the jobs !

Land is being taken from citizens here in the name of jobs (for who?) to aid a foreign company or two ! To refine and ship outside the U.S.

Funny those company's are not taking Canadian's land for 99% of this.
And since that thick tar sands oil is priced about 1/2 wti oil, I'm not sure it's even worth piping it to the refinery.

And who gets to keep the toxins produced under the old grandfathered refinery's down here. Like to build a pipeline to send that back. Those profits don't stay here. Why should the toxins.

Jobs are contrary to profits but they sure sell that idea to you and everyone buys it.
They don't mind creating temporary jobs as a means to get rid of permanent jobs.

Why must everyone's profits come at my expense.
Be careful what you wish for 'cause you only actually get what you demand.
Everything else is a sales gimmick.
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Want Jobs...
Build refinery in Canada and pipe it to the west coast and export it yourself.
Then you could have all the jobs !

Land is being taken from citizens here in the name of jobs (for who?) to aid a foreign company or two ! To refine and ship outside the U.S.

Funny those company's are not taking Canadian's land for 99% of this.
And since that thick tar sands oil is priced about 1/2 wti oil, I'm not sure it's even worth piping it to the refinery.

And who gets to keep the toxins produced under the old grandfathered refinery's down here. Like to build a pipeline to send that back. Those profits don't stay here. Why should the toxins.

Jobs are contrary to profits but they sure sell that idea to you and everyone buys it.
They don't mind creating temporary jobs as a means to get rid of permanent jobs.

Why must everyone's profits come at my expense.
Be careful what you wish for 'cause you only actually get what you demand.
Everything else is a sales gimmick.
Because EVERYTHING is partisan politics and they are "Republicans" so they believe every bit of bullshit they are told from other Republicans..
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Build refinery in Canada and pipe it to the west coast and export it yourself.
Then you could have all the jobs !
It's already Happening but can We want more in Canada ?

Or is just you guys Americain is Allowed to make money out of the oils ?

In 2014 it imported 86,400 cubic metres per day (0.5 Mbbl/d) into its eastern provinces while simultaneously exporting 453,700 cubic metres per day (2.9 Mbbl/d) from its western provinces and east coast offshore oil fields.

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It's already Happening but can We want more in Canada ?

Or is just you guys Americain is Allowed to make money out of the oils ?

In 2014 it imported 86,400 cubic metres per day (0.5 Mbbl/d) into its eastern provinces while simultaneously exporting 453,700 cubic metres per day (2.9 Mbbl/d) from its western provinces and east coast offshore oil fields.

Before 2016, the US had a export ban except for distillates and limited exchanges with Canada. And this was played well by the oil company's by moving hi-grade oil to Canada (for export) and bringing in low grade tar sands oil, barrel for barrel (or so it was suppose to be)

As I say, they tell you this and give you that and none of it is in your interest, just theirs.
Create a rule to protect someone and they will find a way around it or lobby to change a few words to give one company a advantage over others. Bought and paid for.

Their is a quote I think anyone would find interesting from Roosevelt when they were formulating rules against the banks bad behavior that led to the stock market crash but I know how everything can be taken as fake news so I say look it up. It's worth your while.

Those rules lasted till 1999 when they were abolished and look how long it took them to do it again.

When you need a job, that is what they will 'sell' you in any case.
Some day, you will need clean water to drink. What do you think they will sell you then.

If the US politicians here were that concerned with Americans having jobs, there would not have been so many Mexicans coming over the border 30 years ago. Business wants the cheap labor and the suppression of overall wages. Trumps wish for a wall is against his own party's wishes not matter what they say publicly about it . They always find a excuse for not actually doing anything. Status Quo.
Personally, I don't care, but if they work here, they should be paying taxes here like everybody else instead of a 1099-S and minimum wages should apply.
Folks here talk about the cheap labor in China and fail to see it in their own back yard.
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If the US politicians here were that concerned with Americans having jobs, there would not have been so many Mexicans coming over the border 30 years ago. Business wants the cheap labor and the suppression of overall wages. Trumps wish for a wall is against his own party's wishes not matter what they say publicly about it . They always find a excuse for not actually doing anything. Status Quo.
Personally, I don't care, but if they work here, they should be paying taxes here like everybody else instead of a 1099-S and minimum wages should apply.
Folks here talk about the cheap labor in China and fail to see it in their own back yard.
Whats Wrong with immigrant ? They filled up all the Job no one want to do.

I hire and work with Lots of Immigrant mainly from cleaning / Labourers or some Skilled trades men on contract.

Those guys are happy just because they can have a job that day and they Smile and smile and smile.

Do you know what is the % of jobs Immigrants Filled up yearly ? With a smile ?
You should check it out could be interesting.....

I was having a nice read with the comment on this thread but when i see this " IMMIGRANT STEAL OUR JOB " i say Fuck off to this. LOL

No immigrant in your country = Very bad for your economy ...

Wonder who will do all those job leave Vacant by all immigrant being deported lol.

Would be fun to see how this would turn out lol
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Whats Wrong with immigrant ? They filled up all the Job no one want to do.

I hire and work with Lots of Immigrant mainly from cleaning / Labourers or some Skilled trades men on contract.

Those guys are happy just because they can have a job that day and they Smile and smile and smile.

Do you know what is the % of jobs Immigrants Filled up yearly ? With a smile ?
You should check it out could be interesting.....

I was having a nice read with the comment on this thread but when i see this " IMMIGRANT STEAL OUR JOB " i say Fuck off to this. LOL

No immigrant in your country = Very bad for your economy ...

Wonder who will do all those job leave Vacant by all immigrant being deported lol.

Would be fun to see how this would turn out lol
I don't think he is arguing for or against immigrants, he is saying Republicans lie to their base about wanting to stop them.

This is something I've said many times.. People like Trump hire immigrants because they are cheap labor. All those big business doers of the Republican party hire immigrants because it means less pay out more profits..

Republicans have no intention of ever doing anything about immigrants, they just lie to their base year after year..

Hell I can remember illegal immigrants being an issue during Bill Clintons campaigns. Then we had Bush Jr and you never heard a word about them his entire 8 years.. After that when Obama was in office suddenly they are a problem again....

Trump talked about building his wall everyday on his campaign.. When was the last time he mentioned it since he's been in office?
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Another stupid mistake by stupid Trump.

- The US already has lots of gas and oil. Why you want to give your money to us Canadians for stuff you already have is goofy. Isn't this sending US Jerbs to Canada?

- There's more money and more jobs now in Green enerrgies like Solar, Hydro, etc.

- It's not being built with US Steel. He lied to you, again. Sorry, US Steel workers. But hey! Here's a coupon for 2 cents off on each gallon of Trump Gas you buy for your pickup truck you can't afford to drive anymore and have no job to drive to anyway.

- Taking more oil out of the ground and sending it into the air will make climate change worse. Big oil is lying to you. Grow a pair and speak out already.

- It won't create permanent US Jobs. Most of the jobs it creates are temporary.

But hey, if Trump wants it, he should get it, because he's Trump, right? The only assholes bigger than him are the people who attend his rallies.
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Whats Wrong with immigrant ? They filled up all the Job no one want to do.

I hire and work with Lots of Immigrant mainly from cleaning / Labourers or some Skilled trades men on contract.

Those guys are happy just because they can have a job that day and they Smile and smile and smile.

Do you know what is the % of jobs Immigrants Filled up yearly ? With a smile ?
You should check it out could be interesting.....

I was having a nice read with the comment on this thread but when i see this " IMMIGRANT STEAL OUR JOB " i say Fuck off to this. LOL

No immigrant in your country = Very bad for your economy ...

Wonder who will do all those job leave Vacant by all immigrant being deported lol.

Would be fun to see how this would turn out lol
I find nothing wrong with immigrants. As long as the same rules apply to them as apply to me.
And the politicians own up to their rhetoric.

If Americans were flocking to Canada to work for $1cad a hour virtually tax free, how much do you think your job would pay ?

I have a funny suspicion you would look at it a bit different if someone could afford work for half your wage and do it tax free.

The question is not a immigration issue. It is a tax fairness issue.

I pay for all these nice things that makes it profitable for them to take my job or keep my wage down.
I pay for the roads and infrastructure that makes it feasible and profitable to do business here.
And the politicians are behold-ant to who ?
They wish to allow a foreign company to seize my land for others to make a profit ?
Do they even pay property taxes on the value of the pipeline ? At the same time will anyone devalue my property taxes cause nobody wants to live or farm next to one ?
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I find nothing wrong with immigrants. As long as the same rules apply to them as apply to me.
And the politicians own up to their rhetoric.

If Americans were flocking to Canada to work for $1cad a hour virtually tax free, how much do you think your job would pay ?

I have a funny suspicion you would look at it a bit different if someone could afford work for half your wage and do it tax free.

The question is not a immigration issue. It is a tax fairness issue.

I pay for all these nice things that makes it profitable for them to take my job or keep my wage down.
I pay for the roads and infrastructure that makes it feasible and profitable to do business here.
And the politicians are behold-ant to who ?
They wish to allow a foreign company to seize my land for others to make a profit ?
Do they even pay property taxes on the value of the pipeline ? At the same time will anyone devalue my property taxes cause nobody wants to live or farm next to one ?
I feel you but we have it all too here.

We have mexicain Working at $8 CASH an hours in the construction here in Alberta. Or the Asian also same as indian. ( not racist comment here )

When my Staffing Agency Supplied Labourers at 28$/ hours We can't compete either with those guys.

Change Trades man thats all ....

It's your job to pay your taxes and it's the Goverment job to Applied the Rules/ Law and Collect country taxes $$$ to all others.

I would not spend my life trying to change the world minded set... There is no point .... Only hope for a better world one day .
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I feel you but we have it all too here.

We have mexicain Working at $8 CASH an hours in the construction here in Alberta. Or the Asian also same as indian. ( not racist comment here )

When my Staffing Agency Supplied Labourers at 28$/ hours We can't compete either with those guys.

Change Trades man thats all ....

It's your job to pay your taxes and it's the Goverment job to Applied the Rules/ Law and Collect country taxes $$$ to all others.

I would not spend my life trying to change the world minded set... There is no point .... Only hope for a better world one day .
I appreciate your honesty in that.
But if you are not working to make a change for the better, the forces to make it better for themselves will weigh in that balance and you loose that battle without a fight.

Democracy only works with your participation.
If you snooze you loose is still alive and well.

Don't sell-out so easy is my message.
And for everyone else , Failure to be registered to vote says they have less to worry about. The fact you might actually turn out and vote changes everything. Everyone in power's first priority is to stay in power.
Only you can change that. Make them sell you what you need first and what you want second.
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Fuck those Indians, environment and National parks.
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You are either trolling, lying, or ignorant of the facts.

Which is it?

Is Russian Steel Being Imported for the Keystone XL Pipeline?
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Has nothing to do with all the oil leaks in the Canadian part of the pipeline.
Why not answer my question?
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