DMCA: Why do CDN's think they are above the law? - GoFuckYourself.com

LovinNothin · 03-17-2017, 04:37 AM

Why do these mother fucking CDN's (content delivery networks) think they are above the fucking law when you send them a dmca??

All the big ones and little pussy ass ones (and they know who they are) say the exact same thing:

"We are a pass thru network, we do not control the content of our clients and can not delete content from their servers."

WELL, I SAY FUCK YOU!!!!

The content IS IN THE CDN'S SERVER!! It's not some magical 'pass thru' ?? Who are they fucking kidding?? The content is uploaded to their servers and distributed to other servers.

They just don't want to delete any content because it will piss off their client and they might lose a paying customer.

WELL FUCK YOU CDN'S HOW ABOUT A DMCA LAWSUIT??? WILL THAT BE LESS EXPENSIVE THAN LOSING YOUR PRECIOUS $ 40 A MONTH CONTENT STEALING CUSTOMER??

YOU COCKSUCKING MOTHER FUCKING ASSHOLES!!!!!!

Mediamix · 03-17-2017, 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by LovinNothin

YOU COCKSUCKING MOTHER FUCKING ASSHOLES!!!!!!

Please tell us how you really feel..

Konda · 03-17-2017, 05:14 AM

The content is on the client's origin server, this is not with the CDN network.

For example our servers are with Reflected but we use LimeLight for CDN.
When a file is requested for the first time the LimeLight CDN node that the customer reaches requests the file from the server at Reflected and then stores it temporarily on the CDN (cache), so when the file is requested again by a user from the same region he get's it much faster as it comes from a server close to him. If the file is not requested from that same node for say 24 hours (depending on the expiry the client sets) it is removed again.

If you contact the CDN provider to get a file removed there is not much they can do. The file could be present on 100s of different CDN nodes where it's temporarily stored. If they would somehow delete it (not really possible, but hypothetically) and a visitor would request it again it would be back on the node as it would just get it from the origin server again.

So yeah the CDN providers are correct that they can't delete the files, it has to be deleted from the origin server (which could be any host). There is nothing a CDN provider can do.

freecartoonporn · 03-17-2017, 11:07 AM

^^ this guys knows.

i agree this part.

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If you contact the CDN provider to get a file removed there is not much they can do. The file could be present on 100s of different CDN nodes where it's temporarily stored. If they would somehow delete it (not really possible, but hypothetically) and a visitor would request it again it would be back on the node as it would just get it from the origin server again.

but i dont agree the its not possible to delete.

there is purge option for cdn clients ,they can use it to remove file from all CDN servers using purge specific file.

so its possible to remove the file, but then again if someone requests that file, the fill will get pulled from origin server, so op there not much CDN can do.

you have to find main host and DMCA them.

good luck

woj · 03-17-2017, 11:31 AM

server owned by the cdn company is the one actually serving the file to the surfer, so like OP said, it's a bullshit loophole... obviously they have no control over what's on the origin server, but they have control over what urls they serve... so if DMCA requests come in, there is no reason at all why they couldn't stop serving the urls in question...

Bladewire · 03-17-2017, 11:44 AM

^^ This, except CDN is not a loophole they are bulshitting you.

Files are uploaded to the CDN network and for streaming are set to only be removed if the file changes, or if the client deletes/purges the file, for anyone who know how to setup streaming with a CDN.

Having your cache clear every 24 hours is a waste of resources for the CDN and the host and many CDN's charge more if your cache clears & refreshes too often.

Also the CDN forwards your DMCA to the subscriber to remove the original file.

What is the CDN refusing to remove your content? Name them here.

Here's an example from MaxCDN

"Once the service provider receives a DMCA Complaint in proper format, they must immediately block the content from their networks. At MaxCDN, we also contact the subscriber and instruct them to delete the files from their origin."

Bladewire · 03-17-2017, 11:57 AM

Also.. The the service provider must have a designated agent registered with the U.S. Copyright Office to be protected under safe harbor. Here's the list of registered agents.

The threshold requirements that service providers will need to satisfy in order to qualify for the safe harbors are:

1) Adopting and implementing a policy of terminating the accounts or subscriptions of repeat infringers;

2) Informing subscribers and account holders of the repeat infringer policy;

3) Accommodating and not interfering with standard technical measures used by copyright owners to identify and protect their works;

AND

4) Designating agents to receive takedown notices from copyright owners and recording those designated agents with the U.S. Copyright Office;

THE DIGITAL MILLENNIUM COPYRIGHT ACT (DMCA)

JesseQuinn · 03-17-2017, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Konda

The content is on the client's origin server, this is not with the CDN network.

For example our servers are with Reflected but we use LimeLight for CDN.
When a file is requested for the first time the LimeLight CDN node that the customer reaches requests the file from the server at Reflected and then stores it temporarily on the CDN (cache), so when the file is requested again by a user from the same region he get's it much faster as it comes from a server close to him. If the file is not requested from that same node for say 24 hours (depending on the expiry the client sets) it is removed again.

If you contact the CDN provider to get a file removed there is not much they can do. The file could be present on 100s of different CDN nodes where it's temporarily stored. If they would somehow delete it (not really possible, but hypothetically) and a visitor would request it again it would be back on the node as it would just get it from the origin server again.

So yeah the CDN providers are correct that they can't delete the files, it has to be deleted from the origin server (which could be any host). There is nothing a CDN provider can do.

thank you for taking the time to write the above. I really don't know a lot about servers and didn't understand exactly how CDNs work, gracias for a concise and helpful description

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Originally Posted by Bladewire

Here's an example from MaxCDN

"Once the service provider receives a DMCA Complaint in proper format, they must immediately block the content from their networks. At MaxCDN, we also contact the subscriber and instruct them to delete the files from their origin."

^^^that is awesome

I don't think what Konda was describing was a 'loophole' though, more just the impracticality of removing infringing content that can be automatically re-cached at any time.

props to companies that work around that technical limitation like the one you linked above. while they may not be able to effectively remove content on a technical level, CDN's can demand it on an ethical and contract level exactly like this one

That's absolutely something that should be encouraged at all companies (I'm looking at you cloudflare

)

Bladewire · 03-17-2017, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by JesseQuinn

thank you for taking the time to write the above. I really don't know a lot about servers and didn't understand exactly how CDNs work, gracias for a concise and helpful description

^^^that is awesome

I don't think what Konda was describing was a 'loophole' though, more just the impracticality of removing infringing content that can be automatically re-cached at any time.

props to companies that work around that technical limitation like the one you linked above. while they may not be able to effectively remove content on a technical level, CDN's can demand it on an ethical and contract level exactly like this one

Even LeaseWeb in the Netherlands forwards DMCA's to their customers and if after 2 notices of no response/non compliance the request is elevated and content taken down. This has been my expreience, it pays to be polite & vigilant. LeaseWeb will also nullroute the IP of the infringing customer, taking them offline, if they are a difficult non compliant customer.

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Originally Posted by JesseQuinn

That's absolutely something that should be encouraged at all companies (I'm looking at you cloudflare

)

Cloudflare gives you the persons hosting contact info if they don't take down, it's their policy:

"When presented with a valid complaint we can provide who the web hosting provider is for the site in question." This is at the bottom of their DMCA policy page here https://support.cloudflare.com/hc/en...MCA-complaint-

Klen · 03-17-2017, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Mediamix

Please tell us how you really feel..

Lol that is exactly what i think when he posts.

Axeman · 03-17-2017, 12:50 PM

They could purge it, but unless its also deleted from the origin server, it will be back on the CDN pretty quick.

Bladewire · 03-17-2017, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Axeman

They could purge it, but unless its also deleted from the origin server, it will be back on the CDN pretty quick.

They suspend service if the customer is non responsive / non compliant.

JesseQuinn · 03-17-2017, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire

Even LeaseWeb in the Netherlands forwards DMCA's to their customers and if after 2 notices of no response/non compliance the request is elevated and content taken down. This has been my expreience, it pays to be polite & vigilant. LeaseWeb will also nullroute the IP of the infringing customer, taking them offline, if they are a difficult non compliant customer.

Cloudflare gives you the persons hosting contact info if they don't take down, it's their policy:

"When presented with a valid complaint we can provide who the web hosting provider is for the site in question." This is at the bottom of their DMCA policy page here https://support.cloudflare.com/hc/en...MCA-complaint-

In terms of hosts, absolutely some respond to tenacity (politeness is always a given)

some companies don't though, no matter how one approaches them, and therein lies my issue with cf

I work with so many women I work with or know from the forum I mod to seek removal of their stolen content, and often cf is the first stop.

After a few emails cf eventuallys give up the host. Needless time and hassle for me and the owner of the pirated content, every single time.

Then if the host isn't dmca-compliant and either blows us off or requests a European court order, we're fucked. dmca'ing google to get the pages out of the serps is all we can do

it's infuriating to me when I receive email after email from different women all seeking content removal from the same handful of piracy sites over and over and over again

Cloudflare continues to work with these sites, even ones where a simple, 2 minute cursory check by an actual human being would reveal a domain filled with nothing but that stolen from others.

and cf washes their hands and continues to partner with thieves. I find that incredibly unethical, particularly given the fact that, as you've demonstrated, a CDN can create their own anti-piracy policy around the technical limitations of the caching system if they so choose

thanks for posting that, I had no idea some CDNs (well, at least one

) actually go out of their way to comply with the dmca.

Bladewire · 03-17-2017, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by JesseQuinn

In terms of hosts, absolutely some respond to tenacity (politeness is always a given)

some companies don't though, no matter how one approaches them, and therein lies my issue with cf

I work with so many women I work with or know from the forum I mod to seek removal of their stolen content, and often cf is the first stop.

After a few emails cf eventuallys give up the host. Needless time and hassle for me and the owner of the pirated content, every single time.

Then if the host isn't dmca-compliant and either blows us off or requests a European court order, we're fucked. dmca'ing google to get the pages out of the serps is all we can do

it's infuriating to me when I receive email after email from different women all seeking content removal from the same handful of piracy sites over and over and over again

Cloudflare continues to work with these sites, even ones where a simple, 2 minute cursory check by an actual human being would reveal a domain filled with nothing but that stolen from others.

and cf washes their hands and continues to partner with thieves. I find that incredibly unethical, particularly given the fact that, as you've demonstrated, a CDN can create their own anti-piracy policy around the technical limitations of the caching system if they so choose

thanks for posting that, I had no idea some CDNs (well, at least one

) actually go out of their way to comply with the dmca.

Have you escalated those problem sites to a human contact at cloudflare? I have Damon Billian on file and his address is his first name at cloudflare ~·~ com

When you send a second, third request etc. for the same content are you labeling the request "2nd Request - Repeat Infringer" , "5th Request - Repeat Infringer - Please Suspend Account" etc?

JesseQuinn · 03-17-2017, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire

Have you escalated those problem sites to a human contact at cloudflare? I have Damon Billian on file and his address is his first name at cloudflare ~·~ com

that's incredibly helpful, thank you!!! I know some peeps who could really benefit from having an actual human being to contact there, appreciated

if you have a moment at some point, have you ever known cf to send notice of intent to terminate service if infringing content is not removed, or actually terminate service to a client over their refusal to comply?

ZENRA · 03-17-2017, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by JesseQuinn

Cloudflare continues to work with these sites, even ones where a simple, 2 minute cursory check by an actual human being would reveal a domain filled with nothing but that stolen from others.

and cf washes their hands and continues to partner with thieves. I find that incredibly unethical, particularly given the fact that, as you've demonstrated, a CDN can create their own anti-piracy policy around the technical limitations of the caching system if they so choose
.

CloudFlare needs to seriously drop the free tier or at least only offer it to non-commercial sites (and make checks to confirm this). It's abused often plain and simple.

Jigster715 · 03-17-2017, 09:29 PM

Anyone remember the photo the Cloudflare team took dressed as pirates? Grinning like cheshire cats.

Brad Mitchell · 03-17-2017, 09:51 PM

Everything Bladewire said.

And good people host with MojoHost. If you're not, you're voting with your dollars the wrong way.

Brad

Paul Markham · 03-18-2017, 01:16 AM

Hire a lawyer and sue them. Then you'll find out if they're doing anything wrong.

Google Expert · 03-18-2017, 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire

Even LeaseWeb in the Netherlands forwards DMCA's to their customers and if after 2 notices of no response/non compliance the request is elevated and content taken down. This has been my expreience, it pays to be polite & vigilant. LeaseWeb will also nullroute the IP of the infringing customer, taking them offline, if they are a difficult non compliant customer.

DMCA is a US law and has no power in Europe.

If Leaseweb is actually doing what you describe then that's dicked up. They can't null a server based on a DMCA notification.

Brad Mitchell · 03-18-2017, 05:53 AM

Leaseweb operations and entities in the US, FYI.

Brad

celandina · 03-18-2017, 10:22 AM

I do agree COMPLETELY with the OP...

My conversation on the telephone over the last few days.....After a guy got a DMCA notice and did not respond 3 x ( short version)..

Guy: " why are you bothering me, we do not host anything on our site.... We are only database of movies"

Me: " .....but every movie of ours you list, has a link to to pirate file sharing site"

Guy: " why dont you send your notices to the filesharing sites... And fuck off" he haged up.

Next notice went also to his hosting server: (he phoned)

Guy: " I am talking to my lawyer, you are ruining my business, my host gave me 4 hours to remove all the links to your movies, my lawyer will call you"

Me: " He can call me but I will not talk to him and you can fuck off" ( i hung up)

The guy phoned back in 30 minutes...

Guy: " i have removed all the links can you confirm it to me and my host... Please...

Me: ( I felt generous) OK.

Links were all gone and the guys site is still up linking all your stuff to file sharing sites...so well placed DMCA notices still work.

Bladewire · 03-18-2017, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Google Expert

DMCA is a US law and has no power in Europe.

Here's a list of nternational copyright treaties, look at the Berne convention , WIPO copyright treaty.

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Originally Posted by Google Expert

If Leaseweb is actually doing what you describe then that's dicked up. They can't null a server based on a DMCA notification.

Yes they do. Why didn't you check my statement before saying I was wrong? Leaseweb's automated DMCA system is the best online. You have to be very specific and follow unique specific rules they outline, and it's fair to all and works. All of their entities worldwide will take copywritten content down via their automated DMCA process.

Leaseweb Help

Consequences of not responding to an abuse notification

Not responding to a notification could result in a block of the involved IP address(es) and/or blocking the switch port(s) of the servers

Steps to take when IP address(es) or switch port(s) seems to be blocked

IP addresses and/or switch ports are blocked if no response is provided within the given time, or if the issue appeared not be resolved. (for example, when the reported content still online.) Please respond to the original abuse notification for clearance, and explain what action you took to resolve the abuse notification.

Please note that other departments will not be able to unblock IP addresses and/or switch ports that are disabled by the Abuse Prevention team.

LovinNothin · 03-18-2017, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire

Here's a list of nternational copyright treaties, look at the Berne convention , WIPO copyright treaty.

Yes they do. Why didn't you check my statement before saying I was wrong? Leaseweb's automated DMCA system is the best online. You have to be very specific and follow unique specific rules they outline, and it's fair to all and works. All of their entities worldwide will take copywritten content down via their automated DMCA process.

Leaseweb Help

Consequences of not responding to an abuse notification

Not responding to a notification could result in a block of the involved IP address(es) and/or blocking the switch port(s) of the servers

Steps to take when IP address(es) or switch port(s) seems to be blocked

IP addresses and/or switch ports are blocked if no response is provided within the given time, or if the issue appeared not be resolved. (for example, when the reported content still online.) Please respond to the original abuse notification for clearance, and explain what action you took to resolve the abuse notification.

Please note that other departments will not be able to unblock IP addresses and/or switch ports that are disabled by the Abuse Prevention team.

Thank you, good info. I will look into leaseweb for help.

LovinNothin · 03-18-2017, 10:47 PM

One of the biggest CDN's, Cloudflare, are notorious assholes regarding dmca notices.

Sure, they send you a nice email reply, and even forward the thieving webmaster's info to you, but that's as far as they go.

Most webmasters just piss in your face when you send them a dmca, and you have to send the notice to their mommies (host server) in order to get action. But it seems lately, there are a growing number of hosting companies that try to pass the buck to their clients to remove content. They are all scared of losing clients these days, so they start to look the other way on dmca notices.

"It's out of our control what our clients post in their accounts." NO IT'S NOT ASSHOLE, IT'S YOUR FUCKING SERVER!!!

FUCK CLOUDFLARE AND OTHER CDN'S FOR NOT HAVING THE BALLS TO REMOVE THE CONTENT OR SUSPEND THEIR CLIENTS FOR BREAKING THE FUCKING LAW.

LovinNothin · 03-19-2017, 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire

Even LeaseWeb in the Netherlands forwards DMCA's to their customers and if after 2 notices of no response/non compliance the request is elevated and content taken down. This has been my expreience, it pays to be polite & vigilant. LeaseWeb will also nullroute the IP of the infringing customer, taking them offline, if they are a difficult non compliant customer.

Cloudflare gives you the persons hosting contact info if they don't take down, it's their policy:

"When presented with a valid complaint we can provide who the web hosting provider is for the site in question." This is at the bottom of their DMCA policy page here https://support.cloudflare.com/hc/en...MCA-complaint-

I'm so fucking dumb. I thought 'leaseweb' was some magical agency that fights to remove content.

Their just another hosting company.

Back to the drawing board. Thanks anyways.

Paul Markham · 03-19-2017, 09:04 AM

Until the OP drags them into court, all he can do is bitch.

I remember a thread I posted way back about who wanted a more controlled web, most voted no and said it was a stupid idea. This is the result of an uncontrollable medium.

Bladewire · 03-19-2017, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Until the OP drags them into court, all he can do is bitch.

Not true Paul.

All you have to do is read the thread and you see hosts will take a site down for not responding to DMCA's.

I have no idea why you say the things you do sometimes.

Bladewire · 03-19-2017, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by LovinNothin

I thought 'leaseweb' was some magical agency that fights to remove content.

Their just another hosting company.

That's PornGuardian. Out of all the DMCA companies I've hired over the years PornGuardian works miracles and gets the most done on autopilot than anyone real good people there.

celandina · 03-19-2017, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire

Not true Paul.

All you have to do is read the thread and you see hosts will take a site down for not responding to DMCA's.

I have no idea why you say the things you do sometimes.

As I have said above worked for me this time....

The other fucker I've got some time ago.... He was collecting PayPal thru some assehole in Sweden... So I bought and send it directly to PayPal " i may have mentioned to PP that he pushes an underage shit". The guy has no site no more....

Bladewire · 03-19-2017, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by celandina

As I have said above worked for me this time....

The other fucker I've got some time ago.... He was collecting PayPal thru some assehole in Sweden... So I bought and send it directly to PayPal " i may have mentioned to PP that he pushes an underage shit". The guy has no site no more....

That's awesome! Good to'see the system still works

03-17-2017, 04:37 AM	#1
LovinNothin So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 565	DMCA: Why do CDN's think they are above the law? Why do these mother fucking CDN's (content delivery networks) think they are above the fucking law when you send them a dmca?? All the big ones and little pussy ass ones (and they know who they are) say the exact same thing: "We are a pass thru network, we do not control the content of our clients and can not delete content from their servers." WELL, I SAY FUCK YOU!!!! The content IS IN THE CDN'S SERVER!! It's not some magical 'pass thru' ?? Who are they fucking kidding?? The content is uploaded to their servers and distributed to other servers. They just don't want to delete any content because it will piss off their client and they might lose a paying customer. WELL FUCK YOU CDN'S HOW ABOUT A DMCA LAWSUIT??? WILL THAT BE LESS EXPENSIVE THAN LOSING YOUR PRECIOUS $ 40 A MONTH CONTENT STEALING CUSTOMER?? YOU COCKSUCKING MOTHER FUCKING ASSHOLES!!!!!!

03-17-2017, 11:31 AM	#5
woj <&(©¿©)&> Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Chicago Posts: 47,883	server owned by the cdn company is the one actually serving the file to the surfer, so like OP said, it's a bullshit loophole... obviously they have no control over what's on the origin server, but they have control over what urls they serve... so if DMCA requests come in, there is no reason at all why they couldn't stop serving the urls in question... __________________ Custom Software Development, email: woj#at#wojfun#.#com to discuss details or skype: wojl2000 or gchat: wojfun or telegram: wojl2000 Affiliate program tools: Hosted Galleries Manager Banner Manager Video Manager Wordpress Affiliate Plugin Pic/Movie of the Day Fansign Generator Zip Manager

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03-17-2017, 05:14 AM	#3
Konda ... Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2,280	The content is on the client's origin server, this is not with the CDN network. For example our servers are with Reflected but we use LimeLight for CDN. When a file is requested for the first time the LimeLight CDN node that the customer reaches requests the file from the server at Reflected and then stores it temporarily on the CDN (cache), so when the file is requested again by a user from the same region he get's it much faster as it comes from a server close to him. If the file is not requested from that same node for say 24 hours (depending on the expiry the client sets) it is removed again. If you contact the CDN provider to get a file removed there is not much they can do. The file could be present on 100s of different CDN nodes where it's temporarily stored. If they would somehow delete it (not really possible, but hypothetically) and a visitor would request it again it would be back on the node as it would just get it from the origin server again. So yeah the CDN providers are correct that they can't delete the files, it has to be deleted from the origin server (which could be any host). There is nothing a CDN provider can do.

03-17-2017, 11:44 AM	#6
Bladewire StraightBro Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Monarch Beach, CA USA Posts: 56,232	^^ This, except CDN is not a loophole they are bulshitting you. Files are uploaded to the CDN network and for streaming are set to only be removed if the file changes, or if the client deletes/purges the file, for anyone who know how to setup streaming with a CDN. Having your cache clear every 24 hours is a waste of resources for the CDN and the host and many CDN's charge more if your cache clears & refreshes too often. Also the CDN forwards your DMCA to the subscriber to remove the original file. What is the CDN refusing to remove your content? Name them here. Here's an example from MaxCDN "Once the service provider receives a DMCA Complaint in proper format, they must immediately block the content from their networks. At MaxCDN, we also contact the subscriber and instruct them to delete the files from their origin."

03-17-2017, 11:57 AM	#7
Bladewire StraightBro Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Monarch Beach, CA USA Posts: 56,232	Also.. The the service provider must have a designated agent registered with the U.S. Copyright Office to be protected under safe harbor. Here's the list of registered agents. The threshold requirements that service providers will need to satisfy in order to qualify for the safe harbors are: 1) Adopting and implementing a policy of terminating the accounts or subscriptions of repeat infringers; 2) Informing subscribers and account holders of the repeat infringer policy; 3) Accommodating and not interfering with standard technical measures used by copyright owners to identify and protect their works; AND 4) Designating agents to receive takedown notices from copyright owners and recording those designated agents with the U.S. Copyright Office; THE DIGITAL MILLENNIUM COPYRIGHT ACT (DMCA)

03-17-2017, 09:29 PM	#17
Jigster715 So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: elmer blackwood mansion Posts: 1,459	Anyone remember the photo the Cloudflare team took dressed as pirates? Grinning like cheshire cats.

03-18-2017, 05:53 AM	#21
Brad Mitchell Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Southfield, MI Posts: 9,726	Leaseweb operations and entities in the US, FYI. Brad __________________ President at MojoHost \| brad at mojohost dot com \| Skype MojoHostBrad 69 industry awards for hosting and professional excellence since 1999

03-18-2017, 10:22 AM	#22
celandina Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 10,820	I do agree COMPLETELY with the OP... My conversation on the telephone over the last few days.....After a guy got a DMCA notice and did not respond 3 x ( short version).. Guy: " why are you bothering me, we do not host anything on our site.... We are only database of movies" Me: " .....but every movie of ours you list, has a link to to pirate file sharing site" Guy: " why dont you send your notices to the filesharing sites... And fuck off" he haged up. Next notice went also to his hosting server: (he phoned) Guy: " I am talking to my lawyer, you are ruining my business, my host gave me 4 hours to remove all the links to your movies, my lawyer will call you" Me: " He can call me but I will not talk to him and you can fuck off" ( i hung up) The guy phoned back in 30 minutes... Guy: " i have removed all the links can you confirm it to me and my host... Please... Me: ( I felt generous) OK. Links were all gone and the guys site is still up linking all your stuff to file sharing sites...so well placed DMCA notices still work.

03-18-2017, 10:47 PM	#25
LovinNothin So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 565	One of the biggest CDN's, Cloudflare, are notorious assholes regarding dmca notices. Sure, they send you a nice email reply, and even forward the thieving webmaster's info to you, but that's as far as they go. Most webmasters just piss in your face when you send them a dmca, and you have to send the notice to their mommies (host server) in order to get action. But it seems lately, there are a growing number of hosting companies that try to pass the buck to their clients to remove content. They are all scared of losing clients these days, so they start to look the other way on dmca notices. "It's out of our control what our clients post in their accounts." NO IT'S NOT ASSHOLE, IT'S YOUR FUCKING SERVER!!! FUCK CLOUDFLARE AND OTHER CDN'S FOR NOT HAVING THE BALLS TO REMOVE THE CONTENT OR SUSPEND THEIR CLIENTS FOR BREAKING THE FUCKING LAW.

03-19-2017, 09:04 AM	#27
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	Until the OP drags them into court, all he can do is bitch. I remember a thread I posted way back about who wanted a more controlled web, most voted no and said it was a stupid idea. This is the result of an uncontrollable medium. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70