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Old 03-12-2017, 05:57 PM   #51
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The right is more likely to be anarchists and the left is more likely to be fascists and communists. Fascism and communism are on the same side of the spectrum imo. This is the United Stated of America Inc. afterall.
The left is totally out of control in this country. People in places like Berkley are to the left of stalin. I've never seen anything like it
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another 'specialist'.

The only fascists we all see are the extreme leftwing radicals using violence against anyone they disagree with and shutting down free speech.
Interesting you don't post in the Holland / Turkey thread being that you are a Dutch polish aristocrat Turkey protest in Holland, döner revolution - GoFuckYourself.com - Adult Webmaster Forum

You say you're Dutch but you support Putin, Erdogan & Trump. You are the fascist by definition of the word race above country & dictator over government. Nazi says everyone not Nazi is a leftist, another lie!

Fascist: a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
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You say you're Dutch but you support Putin, Erdogan & Trump. You are the fascist by definition of the word race above country & dictator over government. Nazi says everyone not Nazi is a leftist, another lie!

Fascist: a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
Everyone you dont like is a nazi!
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Trump is the result of decades of policies that have made most Americans poorer.
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Trump is the result of decades of policies that have made most Americans poorer.
yes policies like "fuck buying american and producing in america, I am a capitalist and I am greedy I want more money and I will blame it on refugees" it is called "paul markhaming"
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If liberalism was so marvellous, why are so many democracies starting to rejecting it?

20 years Far Right Parties were a joke, now they're gaining votes. The reasons are simple. Liberalism has led to mass migration, trade deals that favour Thrid World Nations, increased Foreign Aid from countries who have problems at home that need funds and an increase of bleeding hearts over countries where the people are keen to kill each other.

Do I really care more over Syrians, Iraqis, Afghans, Nigerians, etc who want to kill each other? Than the problems, we have here in Europe? NO FUCKING WAY. They won't stop whatever we do.
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You say you're Dutch but you support Putin, Erdogan & Trump. You are the fascist by definition of the word race above country & dictator over government. Nazi says everyone not Nazi is a leftist, another lie!

Fascist: a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
Erdogan is a dictator bringing Turkey back to the stone age with islam and no freedom of speech. Why do you fabricate the lie that i support him?
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Lol cusifusio, or whatever. Makes a lot of posts. None of them have 1 single useful point.

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trade deals that favour Thrid World Nations, increased Foreign Aid from countries who have problems at home that need funds and an increase of bleeding hearts over countries where the people are keen to kill each other.
there is one thing what you obviously do not understand in trading rules:

if you want that a country buys from you this country must be able to sell something to pay for it.

that is the same as in a local market - people can not spend when they don´t earn and they can not earn when they don´t spend.

at the moment US have a huge trade deficit because the ral big money is not go into wages - it goes into the hands of a few big companies who do not pay tax.
the workers (what are making the smallest part of the profits) can´t buy expensive with that and that is why they have to get some kind of prosperity by buying cheaper. as things things can´t be produced on that price in US they have to be produced there where it is possible.

if you cut that possibility US-peaole will lose A LOT of prosperity because they can´t buy things any more.

i a WORKING market, every country sells goods or services what they can produce better and/or cheaper than another one and buys those goods and services what others can produce better or cheaper from there.

to cut of the global trade will not change this market rules and make people only poorer.

i really do not know why this very simple part of economy does not reach your head.
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Lol cusifusio, or whatever. Makes a lot of posts. None of them have 1 single useful point.

for somebody who is blind on one eye and deaf on one ear it might be right.

i can read a lot of sense in his lines and actually he is trying to tell you that your problem is not the wrong president - your problem is the complete system - but trump will not change it - he will make it worse - because he knows how to play unfair games.
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for somebody who is blind on one eye and deaf on one ear it might be right.

i can read a lot of sense in his lines and actually he is trying to tell you that your problem is not the wrong president - your problem is the complete system - but trump will not change it - he will make it worse - because he knows how to play unfair games.
How does it feel to be Trump's personal cuck, thommy boy?
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you should have this answer for us johnnyadolf

you are deepthroughing his nazi dick
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you are deepthroughing his nazi dick
You are obsessed with nazis...youre projecting
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Lol cusifusio, or whatever. Makes a lot of posts. None of them have 1 single useful point.


well one of us 2 is certainly wrong...this is because one of us does not understand the most basic principles in economy and human behavior...

please be sure to let me know when MAGA happens
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for somebody who is blind on one eye and deaf on one ear it might be right.

i can read a lot of sense in his lines and actually he is trying to tell you that your problem is not the wrong president - your problem is the complete system - but trump will not change it - he will make it worse - because he knows how to play unfair games.
you really do no favor to the liberal left with such gibberish.

since we cant vote out a complete system, all we could do was vote in a candidate that is hated by that system. that you think he's just another system player betrays your ignorance. the whole system hates trump. he is surrounded by enemies in washington, even on his own side.

but you think we shoulda voted for the systems candidate. so what makes you useful, other than meaningless confused rants warped by euro-liberal propaganda?

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you really do no favor to the liberal left with such gibberish.

since we cant vote out a complete system, all we could do was vote in a candidate that is hated by that system. that you think he's just another system player betrays your ignorance. the whole system hates trump. he is surrounded by enemies in washington, even on his own side.

but you think we shoulda voted for the systems candidate. so what makes you useful, other than meaningless confused rants warped by euro-liberal propaganda?

look if it makes a difference for you if a president is a millionaire or a billionaire (what obviously is the case) you should ask yourself HOW such a person can be that rich without ripping off others and the state.

i will NEVER understand how a far over high personal income of a candidate can be a plus for him. it only proves for me that he have money and influence enough to play the corruption game.

second: trump never even proved his income or showed his tax returns to anybody. if he is such a straight and clean person and you all call him, there would not be a reason for that - except he is not that rich as he want to let you think.

third: it is not like this, that the USA does not have more than 2 parties. there are a lot of small parties but nobody votes for them.

i know that trump was kind of a demonstration vote - but you did not make things better with him - they become worse, because this guy have no clue about world economy and world diplomacy and the bunch around him is either stupid or people like steve bannon who do not even hide that they see WW3 as the solution for all.

the arguments you brought are poor - because even the people in east Germany who lived in a communistic dictatorship have been able to break down a wall.
when i listen to your arguments you must live in something worse as east Germany have been.

this is exactly what the world hates america for. you want to teach people the democracy and - as you said it here - you do not even have one.
even you - the people of the big and free america can only change the bad with the worse - what kind of idol do you want to be?

so if you go to vote the next time - don´t vote for someone who tells you he makes america great again (btw: EXACTLY this phrase used hitler and that should give you think)
don´t vote for someone who telly you that your nation is the leader nation in the world because you are not! you are only the most fighting nation in the world and a fighter is never a smart leader.

vote for someone who shows you the TRUE problems - even when they are hard to swallow but americas prosperity is based on loans - loans so far in the future that even your grand-grand children will suffer on them.

trump is famous for not paying back loans - but in that case it will not help your country because the world is much more than america only.
america can´t survive without the rest of the world even when trump wants that you believe that.

don´t swallow the easy answers because the answers are not easy. if they would be easy someone else would know them long before weaselhead.
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there is one thing what you obviously do not understand in trading rules:

if you want that a country buys from you this country must be able to sell something to pay for it.

that is the same as in a local market - people can not spend when they don´t earn and they can not earn when they don´t spend.

at the moment US have a huge trade deficit because the ral big money is not go into wages - it goes into the hands of a few big companies who do not pay tax.
the workers (what are making the smallest part of the profits) can´t buy expensive with that and that is why they have to get some kind of prosperity by buying cheaper. as things things can´t be produced on that price in US they have to be produced there where it is possible.

if you cut that possibility US-peaole will lose A LOT of prosperity because they can´t buy things any more.

i a WORKING market, every country sells goods or services what they can produce better and/or cheaper than another one and buys those goods and services what others can produce better or cheaper from there.

to cut of the global trade will not change this market rules and make people only poorer.

i really do not know why this very simple part of economy does not reach your head.
You miss out on where jobs are heading. They're disappearing and being replaced by automated machines. So wherever the jobs that are left, so many will be gone that unless the companies are based in the West and paying their taxes in the West to support the 10s of millions unemployed. The majority won't be able to afford to buy.

Ignoring that fact, you are still wrong. It brings jobs back to the West, replacing unemployment handouts with wages. Giving people the power to buy more. More importantly the companies are now based in the West and paying more taxes in the West. Not only workers wages being taxed there are a lot more taxes a company has to pay by being based in the West.

"a few big companies who do not pay tax"

This statement shows how little you know about running a company. Stop swallowing the Communist propoganda. Companies based in the West pay a lot in taxes and contribute even more via wages.
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thats all you need to say on this article. they know that their shekels are at risk with Trump in power.
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for somebody who is blind on one eye and deaf on one ear it might be right.

i can read a lot of sense in his lines and actually he is trying to tell you that your problem is not the wrong president - your problem is the complete system - but trump will not change it - he will make it worse - because he knows how to play unfair games.
The damage to the West was done over the last 50 years. So blaming Trump is missing the point. Trump got elected because of previous governments.

The way to change the system is to start voting for politicians who want to stop jobs going to the Third World, slow down China's economic growth. To force countries like Vietnam to buy as much in goods as they want to sell abroad. Or eventually, the West will implode under debt. Due to the need to pay out even more than it brings in in tax revenues. Then the Banks will own us.

Look at the debt mountains the West are building to keep their countries running. They're 100% down to the loss on manufacturing in the West.
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look if it makes a difference for you if a president is a millionaire or a billionaire (what obviously is the case) you should ask yourself HOW such a person can be that rich without ripping off others and the state.

i will NEVER understand how a far over high personal income of a candidate can be a plus for him. it only proves for me that he have money and influence enough to play the corruption game.

second: trump never even proved his income or showed his tax returns to anybody. if he is such a straight and clean person and you all call him, there would not be a reason for that - except he is not that rich as he want to let you think.

third: it is not like this, that the USA does not have more than 2 parties. there are a lot of small parties but nobody votes for them.

i know that trump was kind of a demonstration vote - but you did not make things better with him - they become worse, because this guy have no clue about world economy and world diplomacy and the bunch around him is either stupid or people like steve bannon who do not even hide that they see WW3 as the solution for all.

the arguments you brought are poor - because even the people in east Germany who lived in a communistic dictatorship have been able to break down a wall.
when i listen to your arguments you must live in something worse as east Germany have been.

this is exactly what the world hates america for. you want to teach people the democracy and - as you said it here - you do not even have one.
even you - the people of the big and free america can only change the bad with the worse - what kind of idol do you want to be?

so if you go to vote the next time - don´t vote for someone who tells you he makes america great again (btw: EXACTLY this phrase used hitler and that should give you think)
don´t vote for someone who telly you that your nation is the leader nation in the world because you are not! you are only the most fighting nation in the world and a fighter is never a smart leader.

vote for someone who shows you the TRUE problems - even when they are hard to swallow but americas prosperity is based on loans - loans so far in the future that even your grand-grand children will suffer on them.

trump is famous for not paying back loans - but in that case it will not help your country because the world is much more than america only.
america can´t survive without the rest of the world even when trump wants that you believe that.

don´t swallow the easy answers because the answers are not easy. if they would be easy someone else would know them long before weaselhead.
so basically elon musk, steve jobs...are crooks because they were so successful.

i could go point by point on your rant, but you got the first point so totally wrong, why waste my time? you won't learn anything.

but simply stated, you have little understanding of our USA culture & history. you see things through your liberal euro-lens. not the born-in-USA lens.

you also have no idea why trump held back his returns. you might understand better if you understood the hostility he faces from a press corp that thinks he is hitler, like you do. instead, you automatically assume the worst. how can you be a fair referee when you make negative assumptions on trump.

why do you bring east germany into the discussion, which has nothing to do with US democracy. Nobody is trying to flee USA, even the whining liberals said they would flee...but they didn't. We are building a wall to keep illegals out, not keep good people in.

but you cant get the most basic facts of the USA right, call our entrepreneurs criminals, then tell me i dont know what im talking about, & my arguments are poor.

pretty comical. thanks for the lulz.

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look if it makes a difference for you if a president is a millionaire or a billionaire (what obviously is the case) you should ask yourself HOW such a person can be that rich without ripping off others and the state.

i will NEVER understand how a far over high personal income of a candidate can be a plus for him. it only proves for me that he have money and influence enough to play the corruption game.

second: trump never even proved his income or showed his tax returns to anybody. if he is such a straight and clean person and you all call him, there would not be a reason for that - except he is not that rich as he want to let you think.
Trump is a result of previous governments. He's not the cause of the problem.

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The US has one party, bought and paid for by the rich.

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i know that trump was kind of a demonstration vote - but you did not make things better with him - they become worse, because this guy have no clue about world economy and world diplomacy and the bunch around him is either stupid or people like steve bannon who do not even hide that they see WW3 as the solution for all.
I sort of agree with you. He's a protest vote. Will Americans take power back from the wealthy by not voting for the politicians bought and paid for?

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the arguments you brought are poor - because even the people in east Germany who lived in a communistic dictatorship have been able to break down a wall.
when i listen to your arguments you must live in something worse as east Germany have been.
How long did it take to break the Iron Curtain?

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this is exactly what the world hates america for. you want to teach people the democracy and - as you said it here - you do not even have one.
even you - the people of the big and free america can only change the bad with the worse - what kind of idol do you want to be?
Agree. We in Europe need to break the hold of the EU or we will suffer even more.

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so if you go to vote the next time - don´t vote for someone who tells you he makes america great again (btw: EXACTLY this phrase used hitler and that should give you think)
don´t vote for someone who telly you that your nation is the leader nation in the world because you are not! you are only the most fighting nation in the world and a fighter is never a smart leader.
So who should they vote for?

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vote for someone who shows you the TRUE problems - even when they are hard to swallow but americas prosperity is based on loans - loans so far in the future that even your grand-grand children will suffer on them.
Trump has shown that. He appealed to the people who have lost their jobs because of companies moving off shore and migrants pooring in over the borders.

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trump is famous for not paying back loans - but in that case it will not help your country because the world is much more than america only.
america can´t survive without the rest of the world even when trump wants that you believe that.
China and Vietnam can't survive as they are without America.

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don´t swallow the easy answers because the answers are not easy. if they would be easy someone else would know them long before weaselhead.
So offer better wats to resolve a growing problem.
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hey thommy, riddle me this...

will your european welfare state stay afloat if the USA pulls out of NATO?

after all, europe has been living on USA military welfare for going on 70 years now. you euros pay scarcely a dime on national defense of your own land. MY TAXES PAY FOR YOUR SECURITY.

you think you can have free health care for all if you had to actually defend your country from invaders?

oh wait, you are already letting ISIS invade you, under the guise of liberal guilt over refugees, caused by globalist liberals dithering to the rise of the biggest terror group in history. meanwhile trump is trying to stop ISIS from coming here. for that, you libs call him racist.

well done, libs. no wonder your ideology is going down the toilet!

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this entire thread shows that the left is totally off the rails.

basically...the USA is nazi germany 1933.

& elon musk is a criminal who just HAD to do something slimy to be so rich.

DUMB FUCKING LIBS....

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Old 03-14-2017, 06:05 AM   #77
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after all, europe has been living on USA military welfare for going on 70 years now.

"""""""""defense"""""""" racket...."keeping us safe" by starting shit on our side of the pond...nigga please
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Old 03-14-2017, 07:07 AM   #78
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you think you can have free health care for all if you had to actually defend your country from invaders?
because we do NOT WANT to fight again does not means that we CAN NOT fight again.

don´t forget that an alliance of 80% of the world was necessary to win WW2 against small Germany.

We just do not focus on hate and weapons but don´t forget that Germany still have the smartest people in the world - and we are perfectionists if we do something.
if the second worldwar would take only 3 month longer USA would be a desert now because even the nukes are a german invention. and we both did not write if a german did not invent the computer.
i think nobody would underestimate that.
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Old 03-14-2017, 11:40 AM   #79
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You miss out on where jobs are heading. They're disappearing and being replaced by automated machines. So wherever the jobs that are left, so many will be gone that unless the companies are based in the West and paying their taxes in the West to support the 10s of millions unemployed. The majority won't be able to afford to buy.
this is a VERY important point you wrote here and it is the paradox in the complete situation. If you think this to an end you come to a situation where one opens a factory and producing stuff and he have to pay that much tax, that people have a chance to buy his stuff.

this is against all rules of economy and money. money is just a medium what makes an exchange of efforts possible. if there is only effort on one site the other does not have anything to exchange.

this is the reason why your idea can not work with capitalism.

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Ignoring that fact, you are still wrong. It brings jobs back to the West, replacing unemployment handouts with wages. Giving people the power to buy more. More importantly the companies are now based in the West and paying more taxes in the West. Not only workers wages being taxed there are a lot more taxes a company has to pay by being based in the West.
how do you want to replace a 1 dollar an hour job with a 15 dollar an hour job and still sell the product on the same price. are you a magic ?

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"a few big companies who do not pay tax"

This statement shows how little you know about running a company. Stop swallowing the Communist propoganda. Companies based in the West pay a lot in taxes and contribute even more via wages.
paul - i am running companies since more than 40 years and believe me - i am not unsuccessful.
in my life before the internet i was a consultant for VERY big companies and i stopped working first time with 35 because i was a millionaire because high graduated economists paid me 2000 dollars per hour for my knowledge.

i was referee at marketing universities and managerial courses - do you REALLY want to compare us 2 ?

so PLEASE do not explain me anything about economy - i have more knowledge about that in my little finger as you have in your whole body.
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The bottom doesn't really believe this nonsense, does it?
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Old 03-14-2017, 06:53 PM   #81
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I hate to admit it but the uniforms looked really good...What they represented was the bottom of humanity but the design itself was timeless...
Looks can be deceiving & they aren't everything
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Old 03-15-2017, 01:43 AM   #82
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this is a VERY important point you wrote here and it is the paradox in the complete situation. If you think this to an end you come to a situation where one opens a factory and producing stuff and he have to pay that much tax, that people have a chance to buy his stuff.

this is against all rules of economy and money. money is just a medium what makes an exchange of efforts possible. if there is only effort on one site the other does not have anything to exchange.
Then why is the West getting poorer and the Third world getting richer? Eventually, the West will have lost so much the Third World will have to ramp up trade amongst itself. The problem will come when automation replaces so many jobs the small percentile with jobs and decent incomes will be the only ones buying. Think back 120 years to see the parallels.

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how do you want to replace a 1 dollar an hour job with a 15 dollar an hour job and still sell the product on the same price. are you a magic ?
The people on $15 an hour will be in the West, their companies will be in the West, all their taxes will be collected in the West. This will genereate $billions to $trillions a year. Now that money is leaving the West. Stop thinking small picture.



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paul - i am running companies since more than 40 years and believe me - i am not unsuccessful.
in my life before the internet i was a consultant for VERY big companies and i stopped working first time with 35 because i was a millionaire because high graduated economists paid me 2000 dollars per hour for my knowledge.

i was referee at marketing universities and managerial courses - do you REALLY want to compare us 2 ?

so PLEASE do not explain me anything about economy - i have more knowledge about that in my little finger as you have in your whole body.
Prove it.
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