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JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE · 03-04-2017, 01:45 PM

There is no investigation and there is no russian influence

More FAKE NEWS perpetuated by the democrats, who got smoked in the election

Silver_Shamrock · 03-04-2017, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

There is no investigation and there is no russian influence

More FAKE NEWS perpetuated by the democrats, who got smoked in the election

Ohhh, I get it, you're one of these "I don't read anything cuz it's all libtard graffiti" types.

The FBI, CIA, and NSA aren't real concerned about who's a fucking democrat or a Republican or who won what. They care about our national security. And our national security as well as our electoral process that was/is being fucked with by the Russians. You're just repeating some bullshit you read in a Twitter feed. 26+ entire agencies, numerous retired national security advisers to prior presidents from both parties, and network server experts have all agreed on one thing: Russian intelligence was doing it's damnedest to influence our government by assisting Wikileaks, getting tight with the Trump campaign, and basically causing the types of arguments we're having right here.

Denial is a real bitch, my man. And simply repeating two sentences over and over doesn't sway people into your way of thinking.

xKingx · 03-04-2017, 02:04 PM

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Also, if there was any wire tapping that actually did occur, it was done legally through a FISA court. These kinds of actions, like when we tapped Angela Merkel's phone, get approved/denied by a FISA court first and practically all the information about it is documented. Watergate saw to that standard being set.

If it was legal, then Obama shouldn't have apologize for it. He had to because he got caught. So I don't know if Trump is lying or telling the truth, but it is not far fetched if Obama did it to other people. He would do it to Trump also.

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE · 03-04-2017, 02:06 PM

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If it was legal, then Obama shouldn't have apologize for it. He had to because he got caught. So I don't know if Trump is lying or telling the truth, but it is not far fetched if Obama did it to other people. He would do it to Trump also.

I don't see Trump lying about this at all

He probably had someone on the inside from the FBI finally come forward to him

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE · 03-04-2017, 02:08 PM

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Ohhh, I get it, you're one of these "I don't read anything cuz it's all libtard graffiti" types.

The FBI, CIA, and NSA aren't real concerned about who's a fucking democrat or a Republican or who won what. They care about our national security. And our national security as well as our electoral process that was/is being fucked with by the Russians. You're just repeating some bullshit you read in a Twitter feed. 26+ entire agencies, numerous retired national security advisers to prior presidents from both parties, and network server experts have all agreed on one thing: Russian intelligence was doing it's damnedest to influence our government by assisting Wikileaks, getting tight with the Trump campaign, and basically causing the types of arguments we're having right here.

Denial is a real bitch, my man. And simply repeating two sentences over and over doesn't sway people into your way of thinking.

If you're concerned about the russians, then why not grill every single democratic congressman or senator who has met with the russians? Or hillary clinton doing side deals with the russians? or john podesta's connection with the russians?

It's complete fake news to distract from real issues

Bladewire · 03-04-2017, 02:08 PM

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So I don't know if Trump is lying or telling the truth..

Seriously? Look at his track record.

Donald Trump's file | PolitiFact

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE · 03-04-2017, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire

Seriously? Look at his track record

Looks truthful to me

xKingx · 03-04-2017, 02:09 PM

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Seriously? Look at his track record

True, but Obama also been caught tapping people's phones. Look at his track record also lol

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE · 03-04-2017, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by xKingx

True, but Obama also been caught tapping people's phones. Look at his track record also lol

Trump has access to information that the public doesn't

Bladewire · 03-04-2017, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by xKingx

True, but Obama also been caught tapping people's phones. Look at his track record also lol

Donald Trump's file | PolitiFact

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE · 03-04-2017, 02:11 PM

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Donald Trump's file | PolitiFact

LOL politifact ...a total democrat owned and run site

xKingx · 03-04-2017, 02:13 PM

Lets just say, Obama thinks Trump is getting help from the Russians last year. Is it so far out of the realm of possibility that Obama tapped Trump's phone to see?

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE · 03-04-2017, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by xKingx

Lets just say, Obama thinks Trump is getting help from the Russians last year. Is it so far out of the realm of possibility that Obama tapped Trump's phone to see?

The left is now stuck

Silver_Shamrock · 03-04-2017, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by xKingx

If it was legal, then Obama shouldn't have apologize for it. He had to because he got caught. So I don't know if Trump is lying or telling the truth, but it is not far fetched if Obama did it to other people. He would do it to Trump also.

Where are you reading that Obama apologized??? he made a statement the he himself did not order one. However, reports are saying that the FISA court did indeed start an investigation & perhaps ordered the wiretap. Keep in mind FISA court judges are a-political, as well.

Here's an excerpt from a Wired.com piece on this:

"Although no one has confirmed a FISA investigation, or wiretaps in Trump Tower, several news outlets have reported its existence. The most detailed account thus far, from the BBC in January, provided a timeline: The Justice Department sought a FISA warrant in June to intercept communications from two Russian banks suspected of facilitating donations to the Trump campaign. The judge reportedly rejected the warrant, and a narrower version sought in July. A new judge granted the order in mid-October, according to the BBC."

https://www.wired.com/2017/03/feds-w...t-obama-worry/

Either way, Trump's folks need to provide proof of this wiretap. Otherwise, he's going to appear seriously delusional, as the truth of these things are going to come to light eventually.

marlboroack · 03-04-2017, 02:18 PM

Sometimes, you need to make sure you leave the country in good hands.

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE · 03-04-2017, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Silver_Shamrock

Where are you reading that Obama apologized??? he made a statement the he himself did not order one. However, reports are saying that the FISA court did indeed start an investigation & perhaps ordered the wiretap. Keep in mind FISA court judges are a-political, as well.

Here's an excerpt from a Wired.com piece on this:

"Although no one has confirmed a FISA investigation, or wiretaps in Trump Tower, several news outlets have reported its existence. The most detailed account thus far, from the BBC in January, provided a timeline: The Justice Department sought a FISA warrant in June to intercept communications from two Russian banks suspected of facilitating donations to the Trump campaign. The judge reportedly rejected the warrant, and a narrower version sought in July. A new judge granted the order in mid-October, according to the BBC."

https://www.wired.com/2017/03/feds-w...t-obama-worry/

Either way, Trump's folks need to provide proof of this wiretap. Otherwise, he's going to appear seriously delusional, as the truth of these things are going to come to light eventually.

So he needs to provide proof RIGHT THIS SECOND or it's fake

How about providing proof that he "worked" with russia to "rig" the elections? Any proof?

xKingx · 03-04-2017, 02:18 PM

That is why I do not argue with them, I just throw common sense at them. That makes them go quiet all of a sudden. Don't get me wrong I hate people on the right and left. All are crazy to me. I am a person that stays in the center on most things.

Bladewire · 03-04-2017, 02:18 PM

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Lets just say, Obama thinks Trump is getting help from the Russians last year. Is it so far out of the realm of possibility that Obama tapped Trump's phone to see?

The FBI tapped the Trump teams phones after getting a FISA court order to do so when they learned of the hacking a year ago in June 2016.

These are all articles posted last year about the FBI's FISA warrant:

EXCLUSIVE: FBI ?Granted FISA Warrant? Covering Trump Camp?s Ties To Russia

BREAKING: FBI Issues FISA Warrant On Donald Trump ? Liberal Society

BREAKING: FBI STUNS America With Election Day Trump/Russia Warrant Announcement (DETAILS)

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE · 03-04-2017, 02:19 PM

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That is why I do not argue with them, I just throw common sense at them. That makes them go quiet all of a sudden. Don't get me wrong I hate people on the right and left. All are crazy to me. I am a person that stays in the center on most things.

Yea, I just don't think it's something Trump would make 4 tweets about without being told about the wire taps...of course he was wired tapped, that's how politics work

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE · 03-04-2017, 02:20 PM

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The FBI tapped the Trump teams phones after getting a FISA court order to do so when they learned of the hacking a year ago.

Here's a story about it from back in November EXCLUSIVE: FBI ?Granted FISA Warrant? Covering Trump Camp?s Ties To Russia

So it's true?

xKingx · 03-04-2017, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire

The FBI tapped the Trump teams phones after getting a FISA court order to do so when they learned of the hacking a year ago.

Here's a story about it from back in November EXCLUSIVE: FBI ?Granted FISA Warrant? Covering Trump Camp?s Ties To Russia

Sure did FBI did, but you don't think Obama had knowledge of it or gave the order to do so. You know being the most powerful man on Earth at that time.

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE · 03-04-2017, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by xKingx

Sure did FBI did, but you don't think Obama had knowledge of it or gave the order to do so. You know being the most powerful man on Earth at that time.

Nah it's not like they arrested journalists or used the IRS to go after conservative groups or anything!

Bladewire · 03-04-2017, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by xKingx

Sure did FBI did, but you don't think Obama had knowledge of it or gave the order to do so. You know being the most powerful man on Earth at that time.

Ok so you're not sure if Trump is lying and you think a conspiracy happened where Obama manipulated the United States Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court into giving an invalid FISA warrant to the FBI where he could tap the Trump teams phones for a year, not saying anything throughout the whole election as his team lost.... for what purpose?

There is no motive for Obama to tap Trumps phones, only the FBI, and it turns out, for very good reason.

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE · 03-04-2017, 02:32 PM

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Ok so you're not sure if Trump is lying and you think a conspiracy happened where Obama manipulated the United States Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court into giving an invalid FISA warrant to the FBI where he could tap the Trump teams phones for a year, not saying anything throughout the whole election as his team lost.... for what purpose?

There is no motive for Obama to tap Trumps phoned, only the FBI

So they tapped his phone and found nothing

Bladewire · 03-04-2017, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Silver_Shamrock

Ohhh, I get it, you're one of these "I don't read anything cuz it's all libtard graffiti" types.

The FBI, CIA, and NSA aren't real concerned about who's a fucking democrat or a Republican or who won what. They care about our national security. And our national security as well as our electoral process that was/is being fucked with by the Russians. You're just repeating some bullshit you read in a Twitter feed. 26+ entire agencies, numerous retired national security advisers to prior presidents from both parties, and network server experts have all agreed on one thing: Russian intelligence was doing it's damnedest to influence our government by assisting Wikileaks, getting tight with the Trump campaign, and basically causing the types of arguments we're having right here.

Denial is a real bitch, my man. And simply repeating two sentences over and over doesn't sway people into your way of thinking.

Notice how Trump is caught red handed by the FBI wiretaps and he's attacked the media "fake news", the intelligence agencies, the judges, and now Obama...Trump is scared and desperate. He's likely going to go into conspiracy mode soon and drag is followers down that dark rabbit hole

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE · 03-04-2017, 02:35 PM

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Notice how Trump is caught red handed by the FBI wiretaps and he's attacked the media "fake news", the intelligence agencies, the judges, and now Obama...Trump is scared and desperate

So what did they find? Absolutely nothing!

xKingx · 03-04-2017, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire

Ok so you're not sure if Trump is lying and you think a conspiracy happened where Obama manipulated the United States Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court into giving an invalid FISA warrant to the FBI where he could tap the Trump teams phones for a year, not saying anything throughout the whole election as his team lost.... for what purpose?

There is no motive for Obama to tap Trumps phones, only the FBI, and it turns out, for very good reason.

No I didn't say that and didn't say Obama gave the order. I am saying to think Obama didn't know they were tapping Trump's phone is laughable.

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE · 03-04-2017, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by xKingx

No I didn't say that and didn't say Obama gave the order. I am saying to think Obama didn't know they were tapping Trump's phone is laughable.

Of course he knew what was going on

The whole system was against Trump

ruff · 03-04-2017, 02:44 PM

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So he needs to provide proof RIGHT THIS SECOND or it's fake

How about providing proof that he "worked" with russia to "rig" the elections? Any proof?

That's not how tRump works. He puts out the lie without proof and that's all he needs to do. His blog minions, of which you must be pivot man, do the rest. Spread the lie, deny the need for proof and then ignore. His stupid tweets have accomplished exactly what he set out to do. He lies even when he doesn't have to.

Do you wear knee pads? This administration is a huge circle jerk and I would think a pivot man would need knee pads.

Freedom6995 · 03-04-2017, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

I don't think that's something he would lie about

Care to share what it is that he would lie about?

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE · 03-04-2017, 02:48 PM

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Care to share what it is that he would lie about?

not this...

Freedom6995 · 03-04-2017, 03:10 PM

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Care to share what it is that he would lie about?

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not this...

what then?

King Mark · 03-04-2017, 03:13 PM

When did tapping people's lines with a warrant become illegal?

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE · 03-04-2017, 03:15 PM

So they found absolutely nothing...?

Bladewire · 03-04-2017, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by xKingx

No I didn't say that and didn't say Obama gave the order. I am saying to think Obama didn't know they were tapping Trump's phone is laughable.

Specific members of Trumps team were tapped, this has been common knowledge for months.

What proof is out there that Trump was wiretapped?

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE · 03-04-2017, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire

Specific members of Trumps team were tapped, this has been common knowledge for months.

What proof is out there that Trump was tapped?

So what did they find?

beerptrol · 03-04-2017, 03:47 PM

Chump is feeling the heat and trying to deflect attention as usual.
If intelligence picked up conversations of chump's team talking to russians , they could have took the evidence to get a warrant to listen in on chump's conversations. All legal.

If they did this, there is more to the story and has to be something there which they aren't releasing because it's an active investigation

NatalieK · 03-04-2017, 07:11 PM

Trump has no proof, it was just another smoke screen because the news of Jeff Sessions recusal...

it´s all just bullshit with Trump, what a fucking retarded President. America, you must be proud

Rochard · 03-04-2017, 09:01 PM

Seems Obama says no such thing happened.

More fake news.

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE · 03-04-2017, 09:06 PM

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Seems Obama says no such thing happened.

More fake news.

Obama didn't say anything

His spokesperson put out a statement, which didn't even address what trump said

GFED · 03-04-2017, 09:10 PM

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Obama didn't say anything

His spokesperson put out a statement, which didn't even address what trump said

nvm, found it

crockett · 03-05-2017, 06:11 AM

It's a given all the dumb, dumbs will eat this up, hook line and sinker with zero proof except because Trump says so. Meanwhile the same dumb, dumbs will completly deny Trump had any ties to Russians when there is actual evidence to show people in his campaign were talking to them.

Trumplets = the willful ignorant..

RedFred · 03-05-2017, 06:21 AM

Trump can't stand the fact his presidency is failing after only a month and that he cannot live up to the success of his black predecessor. Bugs the shit out of him and like a kid who throws the checkerboard in the air when he is losing he will bring the world down with him when he goes down.

NatalieK · 03-05-2017, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

Obama didn't say anything

His spokesperson put out a statement, which didn't even address what trump said

first, innocent until proven guilty, wtf should Obama have to say anything, he can´t be bothered with Trumps idiot shenanigans.

Trump needs to get a life and get a job, coz he´s no good at being President

NatalieK · 03-05-2017, 08:01 AM

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Trump can't stand the fact his presidency is failing after only a month and that he cannot live up to the success of his black predecessor. Bugs the shit out of him and like a kid who throws the checkerboard in the air when he is losing he will bring the world down with him when he goes down.

this

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE · 03-05-2017, 08:54 AM

So Obumma is innocent until proven guilty but after a year of no evidence Trump secretly works with the russians!

Silver_Shamrock · 03-05-2017, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire

Specific members of Trumps team were tapped, this has been common knowledge for months.

What proof is out there that Trump was wiretapped?

EXACTLY. If Trump feels this wiretapping happened, then where is his evidence or proof?? If he has that evidence, and it turns out that it was classified information, as there's an ongoing investigation into what degree the Russians were involved, then he's shared state secrets through Twitter.

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE · 03-05-2017, 10:59 AM

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EXACTLY. If Trump feels this wiretapping happened, then where is his evidence or proof?? If he has that evidence, and it turns out that it was classified information, as there's an ongoing investigation into what degree the Russians were involved, then he's shared state secrets through Twitter.

He said it yesterday...is he supposed to provide proof and evidence RIGHT THEN AND THERE for all you morons? Then you'll just say you don't believe it

Where's the proof and evidence that he is a secret russian agent?

Bladewire · 03-05-2017, 11:10 AM

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Trump needs to get a life and get a job, coz he´s no good at being President

True.

No wall being built.

No infrastructure being fixed.

No muslim ban.

Just a bunch of talk from Trump. Illegals are being kicked out just like always under Obama, nothing different there.

Trump has done nothing but give speeches and take 3 day weekends every week to play golf.

Silver_Shamrock · 03-05-2017, 12:39 PM

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He said it yesterday...is he supposed to provide proof and evidence RIGHT THEN AND THERE for all you morons? Then you'll just say you don't believe it

Where's the proof and evidence that he is a secret russian agent?

I'll take the word of 20-plus agencies devoted to national security and intelligence than a guy who's never even been in a public service position. Plus he's the fucking guy that brought up this whole "Obummer wiretapped muh phone" stuff in a Tweet. If he seems to know so much about it, then hey, he should show us why the fuck he's saying it.

And nobody's calling him a "secret russian agent", dude. It's that we know for a fact the Russians hacked both the RNC and the DNC organizations' servers. Yet they really only dug into the DNC's, providing hacked documents to Wikileaks. The Trump campaign & Trump himself went on and on and on about how he loved these info leaks. He encouraged the hackers to go after Clinton even harder. He refused and continues to refuse to release his tax returns to dispel that he has financial interests or conflicts regarding Russia. Toss in Michael Flynn pissing Pence off by lying to him about conversations he'd had with the Russians, Manafort lying about not having Russian contacts, Sessions basically committing perjury by misleading congress in his confirmation hearing about his Russian contacts, and Kushner meeting with Russian reps without disclosing he had. It begs for the record to be set straight.

Had all these guys just been forthcoming in letting people know they'd had these contacts and why AT THE TIME, we wouldn't be having any of these conversations. These things look shady as fuck, and they could've avoided ALL of it by just being more transparent. So don't blame anybody else for these problems. It's primarily been self-inflicted.

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JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE Trump! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Rent free in Bladewire's head Posts: 6,442	There is no investigation and there is no russian influence More FAKE NEWS perpetuated by the democrats, who got smoked in the election

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xKingx Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 473	Lets just say, Obama thinks Trump is getting help from the Russians last year. Is it so far out of the realm of possibility that Obama tapped Trump's phone to see?

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JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE Trump! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Rent free in Bladewire's head Posts: 6,442	So Obumma is innocent until proven guilty but after a year of no evidence Trump secretly works with the russians!