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Old 02-28-2017, 06:28 PM   #1
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:mad Trump: Botched Yemen raid was a tremendous success, before it was a total failure.

Trump appears to blame generals for SEAL's death in Yemen raid | TheHill
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Old 02-28-2017, 06:31 PM   #2
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Well, Trump is NEVER wrong.
He will be talking to the pictures on the walls like Nixon in a year.
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Old 02-28-2017, 06:35 PM   #3
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When will he learn the buck stops with him - That's his job...
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This is a sad state of affairs. This guy was from my area here in Peoria,IL. I'm also a Gulf War veteran.

I've been telling people this for the past 2 years.

This mission got green lighted way too soon out of intel targets that have been on the radar for quite some time. They are Al Queda targets in Africa.

There is no blame on the Obama administration for this at all. There is a huge list of compiled targets that are on the books at all times. These are not mission ready programs. It's just like identifying which targets are possible for future missions.

This target should have been moved into an active assessment program for more intel gathering and then have a laid out strategy for an OP. This takes months.

Trump took one of these out of the playbook and threw it at the Generals and said go do this now basicallly.....with no intel backing or current assets on the ground to asses it. That's why it got fucked up.

Trump is a complete douchebag and this young Seals life is on his shoulders...
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He's about to give his speech to congress live in 20 minutes
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FAKE NEWS

The raid was put into play by Obama and his chronies
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As a retired US Marine, I find the Commander in Chiefs words appalling...To not take responsibility for the mission that resulted in the loss of an American service member is a shirking of responsibility. To further blame the previous administration is in my opinion beneath the dignity of the office of the President and the American people. HE signed the order for the mission to proceed. If i, as a platoon leader would have taken this position upon the loss of a member of my unit whom I was responsible for, I would have been court martialed after a lengthy inquiry of the facts. How dare HE take this stance. Mr Owens, as well as the American military and people have every right to demand an inquiry of what occurred, to include the present CIC remarks which were inappropriate.
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The raid was put into play by Obama and his chronies
No it wasn't. Categorically false. This operation was one of many that are always on the books for potential mission status. There are literally hundreds of them across the globe.

They require further review as well as asset intel on the ground, combined with well though out mission planning from the military. Trump said fuck to that and took it from the books to the game and skipped everything in between.

This mission should have never been green lighted that quick.

I know you are a Trump supporter, but you can't seriously be that fucking dumb not to understand this concept.
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No it wasn't. Categorically false. This operation was one of many that are always on the books for potential mission status. There are literally hundreds of them across the globe.

They require further review as well as asset intel on the ground, combined with well though out mission planning from the military. Trump said fuck to that and took it from the books to the game and skipped everything in between.

This mission should have never been green lighted that quick.

I know you are a Trump supporter, but you can't seriously be that fucking dumb not to understand this concept.
Wrong

It was started under Obummer
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Wrong

It was started under Obummer
Yeah, the fucking asset gathering and potential targeting assessment was started under Obama. This was not an active operation or mission that had any planning done for it by the Obama admin. It was strictly an intel asessment.

This isn't a hard concept to understand.

Trump took the playbook and pulled something out it, gave HIS orders to create a mission out of it and pushed it to happen before it should have, and failed.

Absolutely nothing to do with the Obama administration.

Nice try though. Anybody with any intelligence understands this.
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It was started and put into place by the Obummer admin = FACTS
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It was started and put into place by the Obummer admin = FACTS
Nope. Those are not the facts. It just goes to show you that you don't understand how military ops work at all. How they move from intelligence gatherings, to assets on the ground, to full mission status. I on the other hand as a combat veteran who has engaged in multiple OPs, understand it completely.

No matter how hard you try. It's not going to change that.

The more you talk on this board, the more of an ass you make yourself out to be.
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It was an obummer mission
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Interesting, so you're telling me the guy whose spent the past 2 years saying what a failure Obama was, including every military action he's carried out, and wanting to roll back every decision/law he's ever made. Decided to take a mission that the Obama adminstration had approved and decided to carry it out and let that be the first military action of his administration without his hands on it at all?

Ok stupid. lol.....like that makes any sense.

Explain that.
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No it wasn't. Categorically false. This operation was one of many that are always on the books for potential mission status. There are literally hundreds of them across the globe.

They require further review as well as asset intel on the ground, combined with well though out mission planning from the military. Trump said fuck to that and took it from the books to the game and skipped everything in between.

This mission should have never been green lighted that quick.

I know you are a Trump supporter, but you can't seriously be that fucking dumb not to understand this concept.
He's a troll. He is trying to get post count up. He has nothing vested in communicating with you other than to get you to respond over & over. Do yourself a favor and block him John1975 / JohnnyClips / JohnnyNight /Joshua G
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Jesus man, get it up
Exactly, you have no response to my question.

Whenever you want to explain why Trump would execute a military plan started by Obama you let me know. I'd love to hear that bullshit.
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Interesting, so you're telling me the guy whose spent the past 2 years saying what a failure Obama was, including every military action he's carried out, and wanting to roll back every decision/law he's ever made. Decided to take a mission that the Obama adminstration had approved and decided to carry it out and let that be the first military action of his administration without his hands on it at all?

Ok stupid. lol.....like that makes any sense.

Explain that.
Johnny Clips is an idiot. He thinks trolling people that say bad things about Trump is "doing service" for his country. He has several fake nicks here lies constantly and never shuts up. He's likely mentally unstable.. (he's claimed he is big time poker winner yet begs for $10k sponsor. Claim's he's MIT grad ect..ect.. He's a full blown nutter.
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Jesus man, get it up
why ???? you want it up the ass ....

cannot, Trump is already buried to the hilt up there....
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Johnny Clips is an idiot. He thinks trolling people that say bad things about Trump is "doing service" for his country. He has several fake nicks here lies constantly and never shuts up. He's likely mentally unstable.. (he's claimed he is big time poker winner yet begs for $10k sponsor. Claim's he's MIT grad ect..ect.. He's a full blown nutter.
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The US military has plans for everything. We have plans to invade the UK, Mexico, and Canada. We also have a large stack of smaller operations always on the drawing board.

This wasn't a plan that Obama approved of. If Obama approved of this plan, it would have happened months ago. Instead, it was one of dozens of plans drawn up by the military. The Trump administration pulled it off the shelf, and gave the go order, and it went bad.

No matter what, the ONLY person responsible for this is the President. The President gave the go order.
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In every bar around the world there is a smart arse guy that knows the answer for everything. He thinks that there are simple cut and dried solutions for everything, and he is appalled that the stupid corrupt politicians in charge have not sorted out the mess already.

What you have now is the result when you make that guy POTUS.

You could have used Paul Migrant , but I give you the Commander in Chief, The Great Orange Baboon himself.

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he has no honor. a leader stands by their people and takes responsibility, full stop.
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Well, Trump is NEVER wrong.
He will be talking to the pictures on the walls like Nixon in a year.
Seems to be a common trend with the right wing bats.. They are never wrong..They just move the goal posts.
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Trump wanted a spectacle -- it backfired badly.
Trump 'owns' the deed but refuses to accept the ultimate responsibility for a loss.
Because of Trump's arrogance he would be "Fired" in most cases in private industry -- humility is a virtue and arrogance is a curse
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Trump wanted a spectacle -- it backfired badly.
Trump 'owns' the deed but refuses to accept the ultimate responsibility for a loss.
Trump first blamed Obama.

Trump now blames his generals.

Trump signed off on the mission.

Trump is responsible for Navy SEAL Ryan Owen's death.

So sad he made a spectacle of Ryan's widow dragging her on TV while still in mourning crying on national TV. Trump is a piece if shit
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Obummer and his cuck generals started the mission and moved it forward

FACTS
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Trump first blamed Obama.....

So sad he made a spectacle of Ryan's widow dragging her on TV while still in mourning crying on national TV. Trump is a piece if shit
That was shameful.
The man did not die for his country -- he died for Trumps vanity.
If Trump starts a war he will kill 1000's of American servicemen with no remorse.
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That was shameful.
The man did not die for his country -- he did for Trumps vanity.
If Trump starts a war he will kill 1000's of American servicemen with no remorse.
Trump doesn't want war

It's the media who wants war and Hillary
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like like pissing them off - it makes this board move LOL

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Exactly, you have no response to my question.

Whenever you want to explain why Trump would execute a military plan started by Obama you let me know. I'd love to hear that bullshit.
he can not response or write anything what makes sense.
this guy is not from this planet. he is an intruder - an alien immigrant what have been kicked out from the alien space shuttle because they could also not stand him any longer.

senseless to discuss - better find a nice stone or a dead cat - they will understand better.
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Well turns out it was a total success as they now have a database of ISIS fighters
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