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Vendzilla · 02-17-2017, 12:22 PM

[QUOTE=2MuchMark;21552628]He's not dumb. And why do you need to call people names when you are on the losing end of an argument?

First, electric cars are MY thing! Don't credit Crocket with that, grrrr.. and to answer your question, Electricity can come from coal, yes, but it doen't HAVE to. Electricity can be made from Hydro, or Solar, or Wind.

That may be true, but again, that is the problem. All of those factories are producing a dirty, expensive inefficient product.

If you were going to build an energy company and could do it anywhere in the world, wouldn't you want to build one that is inexpensive, safe, renewable and has access to an unlimited supply of raw energy like the Sun?

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But Cricket
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Crocket

He's smarter than you are.

Your narrow beliefs are what gets you into losing arguments like this. Challenge your beliefs. Go beyond your safe space and learn some science.

I don't always agree with Crocket. You don't have to either of course, but if you want to challenge anyone, do yourself a favour and back it up with real facts, with real links. You will find that you are challenging yourself at the same time. Isn't that a good thing?

Peace.

Hey shit for brains, I did back up what I posted, can't you fucking read you moron, or are you going to whine and complain to Eric like you complained to Alec at Xbiz because I didn't play nice with you?

Fucking PUSSY!

2MuchMark · 02-17-2017, 12:23 PM

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Good news for you!

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2MuchMark · 02-17-2017, 12:25 PM

When you resort to name calling, you've lost the argument.

And look who's calling who "Shit for brains"!

It looks like you need some help using the interwebz.

Call me whatever you want Vendzilla. I know you have no choice.

Linkster · 02-17-2017, 12:26 PM

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I probably know more about Nuclear Power than anyone on this forum due to living on a submarine that was powered by one. It's safe, it has to be ran right to be safe. But fuck it up and you're screwed. There are 63 nuclear power plants in this country, building more would not scare me. As long as we didn't get the part for it from China!

Actually since Ive worked in nuclear for over 30 years I might know as much or more - and spent 12 years on subs...

Just a small correction - there are currently 99 operating plants

And there are currently 24 new ones either being built or in the planning stages - 4 should come online in the very near future

And the parts come from China, as well as many other countries - and there is nothing secret about their construction - other than the security and cybersecurity details

2MuchMark · 02-17-2017, 12:28 PM

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Actually since Ive worked in nuclear for over 30 years I might know as much or more - and spent 12 years on subs...

Wow That's so cool!! I have always had a strange fascination with Nuclear power. I've always wanted to visit a nuclear power plant. Maybe this is a stupid question, but do power plants offer tours to the public? Can you just drive up to one and ask for a tour?

I would have a serious nerdgasm seeing the inner workings of a power plant up close.

Linkster · 02-17-2017, 12:31 PM

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Wow That's so cool!! I have always had a strange fascination with Nuclear power. I've always wanted to visit a nuclear power plant. Maybe this is a stupid question, but do power plants offer tours to the public? Can you just drive up to one and ask for a tour?

I would have a serious nerdgasm seeing the inner workings of a power plant up close.

Unfortunately after 9/11 they don't do public tours however, they usually have visitor centers that are outside the plant where you can see simulations and pictures that offer a glimpse inside

2MuchMark · 02-17-2017, 12:55 PM

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I probably know more about Nuclear Power than anyone on this forum due to living on a submarine that was powered by one. It's safe, it has to be ran right to be safe. But fuck it up and you're screwed. There are 63 nuclear power plants in this country, building more would not scare me. As long as we didn't get the part for it from China!

The problem with today's power plants is that they are old and obsolete. What is needed is something like this : https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...ation-nuclear/

2MuchMark · 02-17-2017, 01:07 PM

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Unfortunately after 9/11 they don't do public tours however, they usually have visitor centers that are outside the plant where you can see simulations and pictures that offer a glimpse inside

Yes that is what I figured. Simulators are ok but something about looking right into or right at the core would be cool. Scary as hell for me, but cool anyway. I don't know why. Color me geek.

thommy · 02-17-2017, 01:57 PM

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Yes I am old enough to remember - and I also remember a lot of other things you are too young to remember...like three mile island etc...

looooool - well in 1979 i was 22 - how old was you than ?

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Chernobyl should have never been built and the people that ran it for the government were idiots - that is not the fault of the plant - it's the fault of the people that ran it and tried to do something that would never be considered appropriate in US plants

ok - i think non of them should ever be build because not one of them came to me and proved me that he is not idiot too.

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Fukushima was another people problem - although caused by natural disaster that was not predicted because the engineers that designed the safety systems didn't take into account what could happen

no - it was build from someone who want to make PROFIT and safe money on security.
a BUSINESS MAN was who did that !!!!

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The plants are still the safest source of cheap electricity in the US

as long as none of them explodes - IF that happens YOU WILL BEG FOR IMMIGRATION IN AFRICA OR CHINA.

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and as far as your maps of "radiation" - this is why I said that education is the key - the amount of radiation that you show in your maps is less than people get in the US every day from sunshine, smoking a cigarette, or flying on a commercial airline...and yes all radiation acts the same on the body whether you get it from the sun or a nuclear power plant...you just haven't been educated

oh great it is STILL no problem?
so let´s build a few 100 more of them because with EVERY SINGLE ONE the risk becomes a bit higher. if you take all cars from the street and just let 1 drive the risk to have an accident is near zero.

enjoy your meal, ignorant !

and here a bit deeper information in regards to such reassurances

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The levels are very low and shouldn’t harm people eating fish from the West Coast or swimming in the ocean, according to Ken Buesseler, a senior scientist at Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution.

pimpmaster9000 · 02-17-2017, 02:14 PM

It took the USA like 40 years to defeat the tobacco lobby...The energy lobby is going to get its way untill the sky turns brown...Too much $$$ on the line and the old men in charge will not live to see what happens...

thommy · 02-17-2017, 02:30 PM

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Only makes sense to have subsidies for the most plentiful resource for energy for the US, being energy independent from other countries is very important.

you guys talk about a few billion what cost obamacare - you want to bring work back to US but you do not even realize that MORE than 50% of your taxes going into subsidies of your billionairs.

and trump will double that up - maybe some, who did not help him in the elections, will get less but others who wasn´t on that list will show up there.

THIS IS WHERE YOU MONEY GOES - and this is your problem - and with trump that problem will become MUCH bigger as it already is.

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE · 02-17-2017, 02:36 PM

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you guys talk about a few billion what cost obamacare - you want to bring work back to us but you do not even realize that more than 50% of your taxes going into subsidies of your billionairs.

And trump will double that up - maybe some, who did not help him in the elections, will get less but others who wasn´t on that list will show up there.

this is where you money goes - and this is your problem - and with trump that problem will become much bigger as it already is.

english do you speak it?

klinton · 02-17-2017, 02:50 PM

also, what prolly not everyone knows here that coal power plants are not THAT bad as individual house heating from coal...modern coal power plants are - kind of - green...
yet of course - not as green as nuclear energy or renewable energy (which is the best, but not so efficient like nuclear).

its bullshit about not eating plants because of chernobyl 4000 km away. maybe in Prypec and 100 km around and maybe for the first months.

sounds like tommy doesnt know that much about it.

among thousands of nuclear power plants there were like 3 quite serious accidents, while old coal power plants (and new ones too..) polluted air like thousands times more

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Yes I am old enough to remember - and I also remember a lot of other things you are too young to remember...like three mile island etc...

Chernobyl should have never been built and the people that ran it for the government were idiots - that is not the fault of the plant - it's the fault of the people that ran it and tried to do something that would never be considered appropriate in US plants

Fukushima was another people problem - although caused by natural disaster that was not predicted because the engineers that designed the safety systems didn't take into account what could happen

The plants are still the safest source of cheap electricity in the US

and as far as your maps of "radiation" - this is why I said that education is the key - the amount of radiation that you show in your maps is less than people get in the US every day from sunshine, smoking a cigarette, or flying on a commercial airline...and yes all radiation acts the same on the body whether you get it from the sun or a nuclear power plant...you just haven't been educated

klinton · 02-17-2017, 02:56 PM

no need for tours when you have youtube...

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Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

Wow That's so cool!! I have always had a strange fascination with Nuclear power. I've always wanted to visit a nuclear power plant. Maybe this is a stupid question, but do power plants offer tours to the public? Can you just drive up to one and ask for a tour?

I would have a serious nerdgasm seeing the inner workings of a power plant up close.

thommy · 02-17-2017, 02:56 PM

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english do you speak it?

not enough to understand people like you.
but i can offer you to communicate in 3 other languages - wich one do you speak?

klinton · 02-17-2017, 02:58 PM

you cant change human nature. thats why the world looks like it looks and thats why more money is spent on military than - for example - personal and spiritual growth...
heck, who would ever need money in spiritual growth ?

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no - it was build from someone who want to make PROFIT and safe money on security.
a BUSINESS MAN was who did that !!!!

thommy · 02-17-2017, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by klinton

also, what prolly not everyone knows here that coal power plants are not THAT bad as individual house heating from coal...modern coal power plants are - kind of - green...
yet of course - not as green as nuclear energy or renewable energy (which is the best, but not so efficient like nuclear).

was there maybe a special year where people were born with a half brain?

do you possibly also have a space in your garden for the radioactive trash?

even when NOT ONE of this reactors explode we have the problem with the trash.

sure ist is easy to say "no worry" and let the mafia do the job

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its bullshit about not eating plants because of chernobyl 4000 km away. maybe in Prypec and 100 km around and maybe for the first months.

dumphead !!!! tschernoby was 1986 and the OFFICIAL "all-clear" in Germany was in 2010
search a bit before you write nonsense.

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sounds like tommy doesnt know that much about it.

but YOU know right?
why are you not the president ? you are the same dangerous dreamer

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among thousands of nuclear power plants there were like 3 quite serious accidents, while old coal power plants (and new ones too..) polluted air like thousands times more

but there WHERE accidents or not?
so WHO FOR FUCK tells you that there will not be more?

but i am pretty sure you have a end-of-the-world-insurance because you are a victim for such a product.

thommy · 02-17-2017, 03:16 PM

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you cant change human nature. thats why the world looks like it looks and thats why more money is spent on military than - for example - personal and spiritual growth...
heck, who would ever need money in spiritual growth ?

ahhh sure - how could i forget that.
so it does not matter what criminal the us-president is. what was ist again what speaks in that case against hillary?

Linkster · 02-17-2017, 03:45 PM

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looooool - well in 1979 i was 22 - how old was you than ?

I was 25 and on a submarine still - but you have no idea how radioactive "trash" or contamination really works
I bet you don't know that all humans are radioactive - not from outside sources - they are born with it - it's called potassium and it's in your bones - so maybe we should never get close to another human as we might get poisoned by their radioactive trash

directfiesta · 02-17-2017, 03:55 PM

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not enough to understand people like you.
but i can offer you to communicate in 3 other languages - wich one do you speak?

let's see which other language that moron speaks ....

NatalieK · 02-17-2017, 04:20 PM

everyone seems to be in agreement apart from only a couple that this move of Trump´s bad, so why´s he been allowed to do it without being impeached?

It´s an obvious mistake to the planet we live on!

For once, he could have actually got many of us on his side, suggesting solar, wind or more water turbines at sea, creating more jobs! But no, DirtyDon takes a fucking easy road to please his minions...

why is this guy still in presidency?

Vendzilla · 02-17-2017, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Linkster

Actually since Ive worked in nuclear for over 30 years I might know as much or more - and spent 12 years on subs...

Just a small correction - there are currently 99 operating plants

And there are currently 24 new ones either being built or in the planning stages - 4 should come online in the very near future

And the parts come from China, as well as many other countries - and there is nothing secret about their construction - other than the security and cybersecurity details

I stand corrected, which boat were you on? I was on the USS Tautog ssn639. I was a sonar Tech, but as you know, everyone had to know how to throw the switch in engineering. Did you ever meet Rickover? He took a little ride on our boat, interesting person.

2MuchMark · 02-17-2017, 04:30 PM

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everyone seems to be in agreement apart from only a couple that this move of Trump´s bad, so why´s he been allowed to do it without being impeached?

I keep searching for "Impeach Trump" every day. I find some good news, and unfortunately I find bad news too. One can only hope.

Vendzilla · 02-17-2017, 04:33 PM

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I was 25 and on a submarine still - but you have no idea how radioactive "trash" or contamination really works
I bet you don't know that all humans are radioactive - not from outside sources - they are born with it - it's called potassium and it's in your bones - so maybe we should never get close to another human as we might get poisoned by their radioactive trash

I still remember them telling us all that, was mind boggling. That even cigarettes have radiation. Always wore my badge above my balls! LMAO

Slept in the torpedo room my first cruise, next to the dangerous ordinance and next to the reactor. When I thought about it, I couldn't sleep. Couple days after that, I slept just fine.
I was 18 when I got to my boat, 21 when I left. Later got a bunk forward above the diesel gen room

Vendzilla · 02-17-2017, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by GspotProductions

everyone seems to be in agreement apart from only a couple that this move of Trump´s bad, so why´s he been allowed to do it without being impeached?

It´s an obvious mistake to the planet we live on!

For once, he could have actually got many of us on his side, suggesting solar, wind or more water turbines at sea, creating more jobs! But no, DirtyDon takes a fucking easy road to please his minions...

why is this guy still in presidency?

Yeah, lets put a lot of money into solar like Obama did and watch it go no where?

Bladewire · 02-17-2017, 04:43 PM

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Yeah, lets put a lot of money into solar like Obama did and watch it go no where?

Solar is going nowhere? Google is your friend.

2MuchMark · 02-17-2017, 04:58 PM

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Solar is going nowhere? Google is your friend.

2016 was US solar?s biggest year to date with record-breaking 95% growth | PV-Tech

Solar Industry Data | SEIA

https://www.greentechmedia.com/artic...mashes-records

Solar and wind energy propel growth in US renewables : Nature News & Comment

etc, etc...

Bladewire · 02-17-2017, 05:07 PM

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2016 was US solar?s biggest year to date with record-breaking 95% growth | PV-Tech

Solar Industry Data | SEIA

https://www.greentechmedia.com/artic...mashes-records

Solar and wind energy propel growth in US renewables : Nature News & Comment

etc, etc...

Yep!

Google owns this one. I passed it in Nevada on the way to Vegas it's massive and generates electricity at night!

World's Largest Solar Plant, Partly Owned By Google, Opens In Nevada, Roasts Birds And Angers Environmental Group

I have solar panels & batteries I charge here at home, never going back. It doesn't cover all my electric consumption but paid for itself already.

klinton · 02-17-2017, 05:08 PM

??? i was talking about nuclear energy, and you about politics ?

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ahhh sure - how could i forget that.
so it does not matter what criminal the us-president is. what was ist again what speaks in that case against hillary?

klinton · 02-17-2017, 05:11 PM

the most radioactive trash (10 % ? ) is stored in special silos under surface...no other way. i think that its still better than fracking and oil extraction :-)
the less radioactive waste is reused or utilized succesfully

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do you possibly also have a space in your garden for the radioactive trash?

2MuchMark · 02-17-2017, 05:12 PM

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Yep!

Google owns this one. I passed it in Nevada on the way to Vegas it's massive and generates electricity at night!

World's Largest Solar Plant, Partly Owned By Google, Opens In Nevada, Roasts Birds And Angers Environmental Group

I have solar panels & batteries I charge here at home, never going back. It doesn't cover all my electric consumption but paid for itself already.

I would like to know more about the energy output and economics of a setup like this. This one reflects sunlight to a boiler to generate steam, turn generators and provide electricity. But regular electric panels convert sunlight to electricity directly. Are they somehow less efficient? If they could use the direct sunlight-to-electricity panels they would save all those birds.

klinton · 02-17-2017, 05:13 PM

solar is great, yet is not so efficient like nuclear. for economic and physics reasons.

good for small houses with low energy consume, not for the rest

Linkster · 02-17-2017, 05:15 PM

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I stand corrected, which boat were you on? I was on the USS Tautog ssn639. I was a sonar Tech, but as you know, everyone had to know how to throw the switch in engineering. Did you ever meet Rickover? He took a little ride on our boat, interesting person.

I was on the USS Los Angeles (SSN-688)..and yes being the first in class we had too many visitors - Jimmy Carter (he used to be a nuke engineer), Rickover and too many others to count - they all had their eccentricies

I was the Engineering Watch Supv so basically I had to be able to both startup and shutdown the plant

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE · 02-17-2017, 05:18 PM

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I was on the USS Los Angeles (SSN-688)..and yes being the first in class we had too many visitors - Jimmy Carter (he used to be a nuke engineer), Rickover and too many others to count - they all had their eccentricies

I was the Engineering Watch Supv so basically I had to be able to both startup and shutdown the plant

Prove it

klinton · 02-17-2017, 05:18 PM

it is really amusing how you as a German getting so nervous because you think that you talk with just another arrogant and stupid American. relax man, I'm not a such person (especially not American heheh). so have so mercy for JohnyClips and relax man ! too

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why are you not the president ? you are the same dangerous dreamer

Linkster · 02-17-2017, 05:19 PM

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Always wore my badge above my balls! LMAO

Slept in the torpedo room my first cruise, next to the dangerous ordinance and next to the reactor. When I thought about it, I couldn't sleep. Couple days after that, I slept just fine.
I was 18 when I got to my boat, 21 when I left. Later got a bunk forward above the diesel gen room

Yeah - although the rad levels we were dealing with are miniscule compared to normal activities people get day to day just living their lives...we just had to be able to prove how much they received for legal basis

I think the best comparison I ever heard made was when Rickover was before Congress testifying on nuclear safety, he made the true statement that he had picked up more radiation flying to Wash DC in one flight, then normal nuclear operators get in a year operating a plant

klinton · 02-17-2017, 05:19 PM

lets use your logic: prove that he is wrong

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Prove it

Linkster · 02-17-2017, 05:21 PM

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Prove it

Prove what?

klinton · 02-17-2017, 05:21 PM

sadly science is the last thing that talks to people's common sense and usually they follow emotions like zombies

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I think the best comparison I ever heard made was when Rickover was before Congress testifying on nuclear safety, he made the true statement that he had picked up more radiation flying to Wash DC in one flight, then normal nuclear operators get in a year operating a plant

NatalieK · 02-17-2017, 05:22 PM

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Yeah, lets put a lot of money into solar like Obama did and watch it go no where?

third world Portugal seem to be doing well from Solar as does Espana...

you need to take a chill pill and work out what´s going to happen in a few years if you don´t start looking after your world you live

directfiesta · 02-17-2017, 05:22 PM

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Prove it

Prove that he wasn't .

klinton · 02-17-2017, 05:33 PM

it currently only accounts for about 3 percent of electricity generation (Spain)

your input was brilliant as always to the topic....

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third world Portugal seem to be doing well from Solar as does Espana...

you need to take a chill pill and work out what´s going to happen in a few years if you don´t start looking after your world you live

Bladewire · 02-17-2017, 05:45 PM

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I would like to know more about the energy output and economics of a setup like this. This one reflects sunlight to a boiler to generate steam, turn generators and provide electricity. But regular electric panels convert sunlight to electricity directly. Are they somehow less efficient? If they could use the direct sunlight-to-electricity panels they would save all those birds.

Dead birds are a big negative. Evidently the output the way they're doing it now must be most efficient compared to energy directly from the panels? The article simplifies how enegy is really created, it's not just heating up water to steam. I saw a special on this on Discovery channel and it's a special heavy thick solution that's almost a solid that's heated up and it becomes more fluid and superheats water to steam, this is how it's able to still generate electricity through the night, the thick solution retains massive heat like a thermos

2MuchMark · 02-17-2017, 05:48 PM

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it currently only accounts for about 3 percent of electricity generation (Spain)

your input was brilliant as always to the topic....

That's true, but Solar isn't the only renewable energy source for Spain. Found this: Spain Closes In on 50 Percent Renewable Power Generation

I *LOVE* How fast renewable energy seems to be growing now. I really hope it keeps going.

klinton · 02-17-2017, 06:08 PM

nothing wrong with that...except: bad influence of wind farms to nearest living people and animals...but overall it aint that bad

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That's true, but Solar isn't the only renewable energy source for Spain. Found this: Spain Closes In on 50 Percent Renewable Power Generation

I *LOVE* How fast renewable energy seems to be growing now. I really hope it keeps going.

MaDalton · 02-17-2017, 06:12 PM

if Germany can run on renewable energy only (currently it's up to 80+% on good days), everybody else can too

fuck nuclear and fuck coal, technically we're way past that

i always wonder what makes people so keen on destroying the planet, must be a lack of long term vison - or simply a lack of intelligence

klinton · 02-17-2017, 06:30 PM

where did you get your data from ?

post link or its FAKE NEWS ! heheh
also:

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if Germany can run on renewable energy only (currently it's up to 80+% on good days), everybody else can too

fuck nuclear and fuck coal, technically we're way past that

i always wonder what makes people so keen on destroying the planet, must be a lack of long term vison - or simply a lack of intelligence

2MuchMark · 02-17-2017, 07:02 PM

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nothing wrong with that...except: bad influence of wind farms to nearest living people and animals...but overall it aint that bad

On birds flying into it, maybe, but what effects on people are you talking about?

NatalieK · 02-17-2017, 07:06 PM

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it currently only accounts for about 3 percent of electricity generation (Spain)

your input was brilliant as always to the topic....

I began the topic dick for brains, I don´t need to continue adding any more input, however, i´m very proud to live in Spain & be British, both countries seem to be trying harder to give more back to this planet than the idiot coal waste dumping Trump

Let´s get this right, any small percent is more than none! Going backwards is just brilliant. Now maybe you can give more input than just pulling negativity on my positive world input as always

NatalieK · 02-17-2017, 07:09 PM

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That's true, but Solar isn't the only renewable energy source for Spain. Found this: Spain Closes In on 50 Percent Renewable Power Generation

I *LOVE* How fast renewable energy seems to be growing now. I really hope it keeps going.

exactly, like most of the EU.

Britain´s wind turbines seem to be growing both in the sea & on land, as does Spain, they use a lot of gas

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