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JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE · 02-16-2017, 05:25 AM

Why any normal person would want more refugees or immigrants in beyond my comprehension...fucking brainwashed sheep

Tasty1 · 02-16-2017, 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy

correct - but this is what the trump voters seems to want because it is the logic conesequence when you replace the low educated workers with machines.
the hig educated have to work and pay for the low educated. what will cause, that the high educated are leaving the country.

b) like you said - generations are getting older due to improving living conditions, and (white) people are too lazy to have kids if they can have comfortable life alone. Also - what is funniest thing is that the only people that love to breed like rabbits are usually those that are not educated

also correct - but they will breed in their countries too (or even more) and in 20 or 30
years they represent 95% of the world population. we can´tz do anything againt that because kids are their "social security". we can only try to teach them a better way but that will not work from one day to the next.

c) with such high labour costs it is totally insane to think about even employing people - from business point of view. yet - you (germany) have one of the smallest unemployment rates, so....strange, unless every worker works on short term contract without pensions funds

that would kill the social security system - so an answer on that is not so easy and sure can´t be resolved by the usual beer bar conversations.

well that depend if we speak on a long term or a short term solution.
in 30 or 40 years we have to deal with them anyway - because the planet is fucked already and people like trump will fuck it more.
the countries around the equator are suffering but they are not the guilty ones for that circumstance. the industry nations have done that.

well the german "generation pact have another backgrund. it was after the second war when it was founded. there was no safed money or benefit from earlier paid safeguarding. all was gone. people had to start from zero and the older people had to live from something. so the basic idea was that the working generation pays for the nonworking generation. what was a quite smart idea because it would relative the pensions always with the actual income. but what they did not calculate in that time was, that the baby boom will have an end one day and that people will live that much longer as they do today.

and you really can´t blame them for that because they were making their decisions on the knowledge they had in that time.

They saw this problem already coming, wasn't a secret for 67 years.
But the parties didn't want to do anything about it, would cost them votes because is costs money!
And if they didn't see it coming, how stupid are they, in Holland they are talking about this for 30 years or more.
That was also exactly the same excuse when the first immigration wave came.
And than there was a crisis and problems to pay everyone wellfare.

So the baby boom generation (the golden ages) is the richest generation.
And now complaining while they have paid of their houses.
And now that golden generation want you to fix the problem they created.

And don't forgot to say that Germany has the least working hours in Europe.
That also means thet won't pay much tax, it is progressive.
They are just lazy and/or very productive.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Working_time

That you need immigration is just made up.
So many other solutions. Enough people already in Europe that can do the job.

And you don't help other countries taking educated people from their country.
They are needed there, to built up their own country.
If you want to help, you put a factory and research center in the third world.
But i see the plan is to let them be poor and maybe in 3 generations and than they will return to build up their country.
lol

You know that Holland now cuts the pensions for Dutch that live abroad.
If i want my pension in Mexico, i only get 50%
They did that cause a lot of the people from Turkey and Marocco went back and live like a king from the pension money.
Only the Turkish and Marrocan government where able to block that Dutch it for over 10 years.
(while the dutch living in spain, mexico, brazil,... already get 10 years a discount)
And why does the Dutch government want o give them less; cause there is too much money flowing away from Holland.
So, must you be happy when they go back and take the pensions with them?

pimpmaster9000 · 02-16-2017, 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

Why any normal person would want more refugees or immigrants in beyond my comprehension...fucking brainwashed sheep

yeah who the fuck wants cheap labor?

does not make any sense?!?!?

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE · 02-16-2017, 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio

yeah who the fuck wants cheap labor?

does not make any sense?!?!?

Brainwashed

pimpmaster9000 · 02-16-2017, 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

Brainwashed

it completely goes against any logic

economy 101: produce expensive and be uncompetitive

just a punk · 02-16-2017, 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

You must be begging on the street to pay that little.

This is a standard fixed tax rate for a small business in Russia. There are only two tax scales here: 6% and 13%. If you pay 13%, you can deduct your expenses from it. If you choose to pay 6% like me, you pay it from the total income, which is non deductible.

That's because we live in different societies. You are a typical commie, while I live in a capitalist country, comrade ;)

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE · 02-16-2017, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio

it completely goes against any logic

economy 101: produce expensive and be uncompetitive

I said normal, everyday people not billionaires

NewNick · 02-16-2017, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

You must be begging on the street to pay that little.

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Ah Mr Migrant, pontificating from the luxury of your Eastern European retreat again ?

Or talking shit and throwing your turds at passers by again ?

Paul, you live in a cheap little house in the low cost country that you migrated to when you could not cut it in the UK anymore. Your wife brings in the money while you sit on the internet all day telling people how fabulous you are, telling people how they should run their businesses, and telling people that they are beggars or on benefits.

Why dont you shut the fuck up Paul. You failed.

klinton · 02-16-2017, 07:15 AM

two errors in thinking that you omitted...like always for your own purpose... very comfortable way to do, I know, I know

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a) they spend more because they have to pay more for flight. flight costs more from Russia than Germany
b) the articles says about data from 2011... back then: 28.197 rublos, esto es unos 705 euros. now...28 k rubles now: 450 euros, or maybe other way: 700 euros = 45 k rubles it means that= less Russians go these days

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1.7 million Russians visit only Spain every year and they spend more than Germans or Brits

klinton · 02-16-2017, 07:20 AM

sounds like a tax paradise....how much you have to pay for social security/ health/ pension every month if you have your own company ? do you have to do it at all,if yes, does it change with the more you earn you pay more or it is fixed?

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

This is a standard fixed tax rate for a small business in Russia. There are only two tax scales here: 6% and 13%. If you pay 13%, you can deduct your expenses from it. If you choose to pay 6% like me, you pay it from the total income, which is non deductible.)

just a punk · 02-16-2017, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by klinton

two errors in thinking that you omitted...like always for your own purpose... very comfortable way to do, I know, I know

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a) they spend more because they have to pay more for flight. flight costs more from Russia than Germany

Read the article. It about spendings in the host country. BTW why do you think that a flight from Germany is cheaper than from Russia? The same companies... the same prices... The last time I've been to Spain, I have traveled with a flight through Italy and it was extremely cheap (don't remember the company's name - it was non-Russian).

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Originally Posted by klinton

b) the articles says about data from 2011... back then: 28.197 rublos, esto es unos 705 euros. now...28 k rubles now: 450 euros, or maybe other way: 700 euros = 45 k rubles it means that= less Russians go these days

Yes the ruble rate has dropped and less Russians visit Spain today, but still a lot. On the other hand, 2011 was not the best year for the Russian economics. A ruble has been much stronger to euro, but average salaries in rubles were lesser too.

P.S. Just checked the stats. In 2015 (a worst year for ruble), Spain was visited by 955,976 Russian tourists.

just a punk · 02-16-2017, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by klinton

sounds like a tax paradise....how much you have to pay for social security/ health/ pension every month if you have your own company ?

I pay only the fixed income tax which is 6% for me - a self employed person or 13% for any physical person who has not registered his business (e.g. from the salary or any other income if you are not self employed). Also formally I pay a pension tax which is 23,400 rubles a year (about $395 USD). It's a fixed amount, not a % of anything. I said "formally" because in fact I don't pay it at all. This money is fully deductible from my tax payouts. So I pay exactly 6% of my income and no single ruble over it. That's for all - including free medicine (we also have a paid one of course), free high education for my son (it's not just free, he even receives some symbolic money from the government for being a student) and everything else. If I would not pay anything at all (e.g. have no job), the government will pay it for me, so the education and medicine will still be free.

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do you have to do it at all,if yes, does it change with the more you earn you pay more or it is fixed?

As I said above, the income tax is fixed in Russia, and it is 13% for any physical person (doesn't matter if you earn a single ruble of a billion). If you are a self-employed person (have a formally registered business), you can choose a so-called simplified tax, which is only 6% of your income.

P.S. I do pay my taxes in full, because I don't think that 6% will make my life worse. However the tax evasion is a national sport in Russia. It's something you won't tell anybody in Germany or in the USA, but will be proud for here. According to the Russian Criminal Code, a physical person can not get a jail time for tax evasion, is he agrees to pay the unpaid tax he was caught with

P.P.S. When I was registering my oversea income in the tax inspection, the inspector said: "Are you an idiot? It's the offshore money and we can't track it. Why do you want to reveal the source if you can easily keep all the money?"

Paul Markham · 02-16-2017, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy

I can´t see jobs in Geramy who are done by foreigners what a german would do.

Infact Germany have a unemployment rate of 8,5% (what is the DOUBLE rate as is US)
these are like 2,5 million.

on the other hand there are 1,3 million open jobs - split by 70% in high tech and 30% low paid jobs.

not at all - because a few years ago they opend the market for cheap workers from poland in the building industry (what had suffered a lot) afetr that decsion the construcion market went up 15% (because the houses whare cheaper) and WITH IT AHEAD went all the perfer industries went up too.

so the real result is that 50.000 foreign workers caused 20.000 ADDITIONAL JOBS in Germany FOR GERMANS !!!
Not ONE Job of a German has gone - there where 20.000 NEW

how can you explain that inside of your theory?

you still do the mistake that you think only one step. you do not think the second. MORE people in a country automaticly brings more internal demand. because this people want to eat, drink, rent a house, drive a car.

and i know EXACTLY with what argument you come up now BUT THEY SEND MONEY HOME
and YES they do that but this money wil be spend in their countries. they will pay tax and make companies producing MORE and this companies will buy the high tech from Germany to do that.

for this reason Germany have a HUGE export plus what let the country PAY BACK depts
since 10 years. Germany´s dept is NOT increasing as US dept does - the dept of USA is increasing 13.000 Dollar PER SECOND !!!

i do NOT think in taxes - i was NEVER thinking in taxes because taxes are IRRELEVANT when money is not spend. the more important part of prosperity is to let the money run FAST from one hand to the other. and in a global market it can run MUCH faster as in a closed market. but US citizens will learn that lesson soon.

Can you provide links in English which back up your story? I can provide links that prove my statements. Because a lot of what you say is Bullshit. Like low-wage workers sending money back home so they can buy high-tech German goods. And make sure the wages are based on percentile, Exclude the top 10% as including them sends all the figures higher. We know the rich are winning with mass migration.

klinton · 02-16-2017, 08:54 AM

@cyberseo
as for the article about Spain: it says about total costs of holidays
en Malgrat de Mar- en un hotel de tres estrellas, con desayuno y vuelo ida y vuelta cuesta por persona por 28.197 rublos, esto es unos 705 euros.

as for taxes in Russia: it is really wonderful. too bad that in EU it is few times more

Paul Markham · 02-16-2017, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

This is a standard fixed tax rate for a small business in Russia. There are only two tax scales here: 6% and 13%. If you pay 13%, you can deduct your expenses from it. If you choose to pay 6% like me, you pay it from the total income, which is non deductible.

That's because we live in different societies. You are a typical commie, while I live in a capitalist country, comrade ;)

Then how does the Government raise nearly 20% of GDP in taxes. Who is paying the tax?

Paul Markham · 02-16-2017, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by NewNick

Ah Mr Migrant, pontificating from the luxury of your Eastern European retreat again ?

Or talking shit and throwing your turds at passers by again ?

Paul, you live in a cheap little house in the low cost country that you migrated to when you could not cut it in the UK anymore. Your wife brings in the money while you sit on the internet all day telling people how fabulous you are, telling people how they should run their businesses, and telling people that they are beggars or on benefits.

Why dont you shut the fuck up Paul. You failed.

Everyone knows who I am. Who are you?

Show us how successful you are by posting links to your sites.

just a punk · 02-16-2017, 09:13 AM

Also an interesting video from Syria. The commander of Russian military police squad says he is Chechen and a Muslim Sunni, his subordinate is a Muslim Shiite. There are Buddhists and Orthodox Christians in the group. HE says: "First we are Russian citizens. Second we are Russian soldiers. And only after that we are everything else."

just a punk · 02-16-2017, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Then how does the Government raise nearly 20% of GDP in taxes. Who is paying the tax?

Like Norway or Saudi Arabia, Russia makes money selling oil and natural gas. Taxes from physical persons and a small business is a little part of our GDP. Ah.. maybe it was missed in my post above. The gas and oil selling companies pay their taxes too and those taxes are not the same as income taxes for physical persons. They pay special taxes for using of natural resources, so the most part of their income from selling the national resources turns into taxes.

Tasty1 · 02-19-2017, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy

who farted in your brain?

first of all in this part what you copy and copy again (without even read or understand it)
i explained what merkel´s idea behind that was NOT MINE you fuckhead.

then you explain me your world without workers and just machines and don´t tell me from what this non-workers make money.

i will tell you something what your kiddybrain will maybe never understand but maybe you will find someone intelligent and pacient in your near who can explain that to you.

WHAT kind of business man will open a factorey where he produce goods with robots and that he is ABLE to sell this products to the notworking people he have to give them the money to do that first. WHO will be that idiot?
I tell you who that COULD be - the state !!!!

and now think about your fucking stupid words you knight of the free markets - because THAT IS CALLED COMMUNISM you fucking idiot !!!!!

The stupdid people from Mercedes want factories with only machines.
Just saw this.

Paul&John · 02-19-2017, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

I pay only the fixed income tax which is 6% for me - a self employed person or 13% for any physical person who has not registered his business (e.g. from the salary or any other income if you are not self employed). Also formally I pay a pension tax which is 23,400 rubles a year (about $395 USD). It's a fixed amount, not a % of anything. I said "formally" because in fact I don't pay it at all. This money is fully deductible from my tax payouts. So I pay exactly 6% of my income and no single ruble over it. That's for all - including free medicine (we also have a paid one of course), free high education for my son (it's not just free, he even receives some symbolic money from the government for being a student) and everything else. If I would not pay anything at all (e.g. have no job), the government will pay it for me, so the education and medicine will still be free.

As I said above, the income tax is fixed in Russia, and it is 13% for any physical person (doesn't matter if you earn a single ruble of a billion). If you are a self-employed person (have a formally registered business), you can choose a so-called simplified tax, which is only 6% of your income.

P.S. I do pay my taxes in full, because I don't think that 6% will make my life worse. However the tax evasion is a national sport in Russia. It's something you won't tell anybody in Germany or in the USA, but will be proud for here. According to the Russian Criminal Code, a physical person can not get a jail time for tax evasion, is he agrees to pay the unpaid tax he was caught with

P.P.S. When I was registering my oversea income in the tax inspection, the inspector said: "Are you an idiot? It's the offshore money and we can't track it. Why do you want to reveal the source if you can easily keep all the money?"

Damn thats pretty neat to pay only 6% flat rate..

thommy · 02-19-2017, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1

The stupdid people from Mercedes want factories with only machines.
Just saw this.

sure they do - but as long as the machines what are producing machines can not be produced by machines it is science fiction and leads automaticly to communism.

and where for duck is YOUR ARGUMENT ?
YOU praise to bring jobs back to USA - if you CAN DO that already who holds you back?

what you say in fact is to take the jobs from the foreign countries and give them to robots instead - so where a fuck are the jobs you want to make with it ?

and with what will foreign countries buy the stuff what is produced by machines?

do you know what the real problem of US is?
it is not the import it is the low EXPORT !!!!!

USA have an export deficit of nearly 500 Billion dollars per year and trump makes you think he can fix that with a domestic market. but this is UNLOGIC and against every economic rule. to WHO will you export when you charge penalty taxes from your trading partners?

and if you not export there´s no reason to produce - and if you not produce you do not have jobs - and if you do not have jobs nobody can buy.

how can you believe in such a fairytale what even a 10-year-old kid could understand better.

you are fighting for 50.000 jobs in the coal mining - what is definitely not the future - instead of creating 500.000 new jobs in alternative energy.

but sure trump will not go for that because he is the owner of a lot of oil pipelines and is engaged with fracking companies what are destroying your country.

how can you be so blind and deaf on logic argumentation?

Tasty1 · 02-19-2017, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by thommy

sure they do - but as long as the machines what are producing machines can not be produced by machines it is science fiction and leads automaticly to communism.

and where for duck is YOUR ARGUMENT ?
YOU praise to bring jobs back to USA - if you CAN DO that already who holds you back?

what you say in fact is to take the jobs from the foreign countries and give them to robots instead - so where a fuck are the jobs you want to make with it ?

and with what will foreign countries buy the stuff what is produced by machines?

do you know what the real problem of US is?
it is not the import it is the low EXPORT !!!!!

USA have an export deficit of nearly 500 Billion dollars per year and trump makes you think he can fix that with a domestic market. but this is UNLOGIC and against every economic rule. to WHO will you export when you charge penalty taxes from your trading partners?

and if you not export there´s no reason to produce - and if you not produce you do not have jobs - and if you do not have jobs nobody can buy.

how can you believe in such a fairytale what even a 10-year-old kid could understand better.

you are fighting for 50.000 jobs in the coal mining - what is definitely not the future - instead of creating 500.000 new jobs in alternative energy.

but sure trump will not go for that because he is the owner of a lot of oil pipelines and is engaged with fracking companies what are destroying your country.

how can you be so blind and deaf on logic argumentation?

- Why would it lead to communism. It is not all black and white.

- I don't praise to bring jobs back to USA, this topic is about immigrants in Europe and if we need them.

- In Europe we don't need more immigrants to do the job, more machines can do the job. Already happening, i remember when i had a vacation job that there where many many more people on the production line.

- Again you think i am for bringing jobs backs, never talked about that. We are talking about getting less immigrants in and put illegals out of the country.

- Nice that you think if there are no jobs nobody can buy. Than we should go back to the old factory methods 50 years ago. Cause every factory aims at the lowest cost. Amazon is cutting out every middleman. And than they try to get he profits to an offshore company. And better a machine than a human slave in China.

- But we can talk about the USA. So you say they have too low export. It certainly doesn't help to import everything than for low prices. A tax would help. Look how Europe is controlling and protecting the agriculture. Except now the cheap chickens from the Ukrain can lower the prices cause of that treaty.

- So Trump is smart, invest in commodities.

- I am in favour of sustainable energy. But how many jobs will there be created before they move it to China if there is no extra import tax?

- And why should i be afraid that machines can do more and more. Maybe we can than put the retirement age to 45. Instead of thinking we need more immigration and need to work till 68 years. There will always be ways to make money. You can start mining bitcoins.

- The USA is not my country.

NewNick · 02-19-2017, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Everyone knows who I am. Who are you?

Show us how successful you are by posting links to your sites.

Indeed Paul everyone does know that you are a migrant.

I have no intention of posting my business credentials here - I have posted here using this nic and my previous nic for many years anonymously. I do that because I have no desire to recruit affiliates, and I have nothing to sell here.

klinton · 02-19-2017, 02:58 PM

check new tax laws in Romania...look promising...also UK and few other places in Europe were always good...let me know what ya think later

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Originally Posted by Paul&John

Damn thats pretty neat to pay only 6% flat rate..

Paul&John · 02-19-2017, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by klinton

check new tax laws in Romania...look promising...also UK and few other places in Europe were always good...let me know what ya think later

I think I dont want to look up tax laws in any countries lol

QuietPhantom · 02-19-2017, 03:36 PM

I am born in a country where the largest minority are muslims. We have places where they are majority and let me tell you this: if you have a way of not dealing with that shit, enjoy. I don't see a point in letting them in and then working your ass off to preserve your values.

Immigration and cult immigration are two different things. Islam is a cult. Many muslims are liberal but the cult leaders take control over the communities and no body talk back because of fear.

pimpmaster9000 · 02-19-2017, 04:21 PM

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE · 02-19-2017, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by QuietPhantom

I am born in a country where the largest minority are muslims. We have places where they are majority and let me tell you this: if you have a way of not dealing with that shit, enjoy. I don't see a point in letting them in and then working your ass off to preserve your values.

Immigration and cult immigration are two different things. Islam is a cult. Many muslims are liberal but the cult leaders take control over the communities and no body talk back because of fear.

They will turn the country into the middle east in no time

I can't for the life of me, envision why normal white people would want them in here. It's unreal

QuietPhantom · 03-17-2017, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE

They will turn the country into the middle east in no time

I can't for the life of me, envision why normal white people would want them in here. It's unreal

It is not a 'white' thing. General public is compassionate because it is beyond their understanding that people can mass murder because they have a disagreement on which direction to pray. Then you take them in and they don't like your 5 year old child not wearing burqa.

For most civilized people, it's like sympathizing with gorillas in a cage. If sympathy gets out of control and you actually get inside the cage to feed them bastards, you are at their mercy, not the other way around.

P.S: Few days back a gangster was killed in my place. The dude was ratted out by gang members when he was high on grass. The funny thing? He won't drink alcohol because it's against his beliefs! No, I am not fucking joking.

Relic · 03-17-2017, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo

Looks like there are a lot of racists and bigots in Europe

yeah who knew

Paul Markham · 03-18-2017, 01:33 AM

The liberals don't care what's best for the people of their own country.

Paul Markham · 03-18-2017, 01:43 AM

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ahaaaaaaaaa.... so they do NOT contribute to the western economy ?????

about WHAT are we discussing then ????

on WHAT exactly should be the import tax planned by donald dump if they do not contribute to the western economy ?????

paul sorry, that is COMPLETELY BULLSHIT what you are talking and shows me only that you do not have the smallest clue.

shall i paint you the money circle that you are going to understand that?

present situation is:

US companies are producing and EXPORTING technology what is sold to countries with cheap labour.

They are using the cheap labour to produce a product FAR cheaper as it could be produced in USA and sell it back to US.

BECAUSE they are OFFSHORE the need contributers in US, wholesellers, delievery services,
warehouses for the stock and the result is that the workers what are producing the machines have more properity because they buy a product much cheaper.

NOW WE COME TO YOUR VISION:

step 1: the products will be produced in USA but for a much higher price.

step 2: all the jobs what are based on import will vbe gone because there is no import. these people have to look for another jon in the country and will directly compete with all other working habitants.

step 3: a higher price will lead to less demand on this product - less production means less workers - less workers means less income - less income= less demand - less demand= less production........

step 4: US companies will export less technology because if this countries can´t export there is no reason to produce. less jobs in this industry what can´t be balanced by the industry meantiones in step 2 because they are on the way down....

step 5: to give evenybody work in such a horrible economy situation the costs of labour have to go down = less income = less demand - less production

step 6: a country full of poor people can´t survive because the people are too poor to buy the stuff what they are producing.....

step 7 and endpoint: america will decrease to a cheap harbour land and will be used from china and mexico for doing works what their own people will not do for this money.

THIS PAUL, is what you are preaching here !

While Third World countries sell more than they buy, they're not contributing. I've high klighted your stupidity. All those services are required for US companies to deliver goods to US outlets.

As for you other weak arguments about goods made in the West being more expensive. Economies are based on currencies, not the number of goods sold. Buy exporting a large part of the products costs and the companies costs/taxes. The West loses a lot of money.

The argument about the exports of high-tech. Not relevant anymore as the Third World ramps up its production of high-tech products. The days of China sticking to only making low tech are long gone.

Paul Markham · 03-18-2017, 01:53 AM

Most Europeans and Americans are poorer than they were 30 years ago. The gap between rich and poor is at record highs and increasing.

The reasons are simple. Wages/taxes are being compressed by three ways.

Exporting jobs out of the West. No matter What Thommy bleats Chinas hasn't become wealthy by creating extra wealth, it's taken it from the West.

Migration of low skilled, low paid and unemployable people has lowered wages, job opportunities and increased the numbers relying on the rest of the people.

Automation of jobs. Fewer working people are required every day. From flipping burgers to manufacturing cars. The fewer people getting a living wage, the more people relying on the rest.

This has been a process since the 70s, it's only now people are realising the real cost of cheap goods.

Paul Markham · 03-18-2017, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by NewNick

Indeed Paul everyone does know that you are a migrant.

I have no intention of posting my business credentials here - I have posted here using this nic and my previous nic for many years anonymously. I do that because I have no desire to recruit affiliates, and I have nothing to sell here.

I'm pro-migration of people who can contribute more in money than they take out.

You don't have anything to post. I do and my sites show how much I contributed to the Czech economy. You, on the other hand, could be living on low wage benefits, housing benefits, unemployed benefits, and all the other benefits you get in the UK.

Unless you can show us what you do earn from I will assume you have nothing.

Paul Markham · 03-18-2017, 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by QuietPhantom

It is not a 'white' thing. General public is compassionate because it is beyond their understanding that people can mass murder because they have a disagreement on which direction to pray. Then you take them in and they don't like your 5 year old child not wearing burqa.

For most civilized people, it's like sympathizing with gorillas in a cage. If sympathy gets out of control and you actually get inside the cage to feed them bastards, you are at their mercy, not the other way around.

P.S: Few days back a gangster was killed in my place. The dude was ratted out by gang members when he was high on grass. The funny thing? He won't drink alcohol because it's against his beliefs! No, I am not fucking joking.

Fact. Muslims kill more Muslims than non-Muslims because they disagree over the fine print of a fictional book. This takes Europeans back to the 15th to 17th Century when Europe was at war with itself. We 've grown up, Muslims refuse to.

Paul Markham · 03-18-2017, 02:15 AM

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sure they do - but as long as the machines what are producing machines can not be produced by machines it is science fiction and leads automaticly to communism.

and where for duck is YOUR ARGUMENT ?
YOU praise to bring jobs back to USA - if you CAN DO that already who holds you back?

what you say in fact is to take the jobs from the foreign countries and give them to robots instead - so where a fuck are the jobs you want to make with it ?

and with what will foreign countries buy the stuff what is produced by machines?

do you know what the real problem of US is?
it is not the import it is the low EXPORT !!!!!

USA have an export deficit of nearly 500 Billion dollars per year and trump makes you think he can fix that with a domestic market. but this is UNLOGIC and against every economic rule. to WHO will you export when you charge penalty taxes from your trading partners?

and if you not export there´s no reason to produce - and if you not produce you do not have jobs - and if you do not have jobs nobody can buy.

how can you believe in such a fairytale what even a 10-year-old kid could understand better.

you are fighting for 50.000 jobs in the coal mining - what is definitely not the future - instead of creating 500.000 new jobs in alternative energy.

but sure trump will not go for that because he is the owner of a lot of oil pipelines and is engaged with fracking companies what are destroying your country.

how can you be so blind and deaf on logic argumentation?

Posted so you might get a clue. https://www.google.cz/webhp?hl=en&gw...cs+companies&*

Without import controls, there is no competing with countries like China.

I understand your blindness wanting to keep Thailand from suffering because of import controls. But we in the West are suffering. All we need is balanced trade.

pimpmaster9000 · 03-18-2017, 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Fact. Muslims kill more Muslims than non-Muslims

fact: more eskimos kill eskimos than non eskimos

fact: more africans kill africans than non africans

fact: more europeans kill europeans than non europeans

strng points paulio

thommy · 03-18-2017, 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

I understand your blindness wanting to keep Thailand from suffering because of import controls. But we in the West are suffering. All we need is balanced trade.

again you are far from reality because i do not care if thailand suffers or not.
my personal income is in mayn currencies and it is still 1000 times higher as
the average.

in fact at the moment I would like to see them suffer a bit more because THB is FAR too high and that does not only hurt their own export industry it hurts also tourism and decrease investments in the country.

on the other hand asia was always a part of the world what can manage problems much easier than other countries.
there are so many new trading contracts with other asian and european countries that it will not hit them hard.
the only who will be hit from this economic separation politic of trump, are the us and you will see that effect before the end of this year.
so no matter what you belive or not - nobody can jump over his own shadow.

Google Expert · 03-18-2017, 07:32 AM

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Most Europeans are worse off financially than they were 10 or 20 years ago. Fewer jobs, Lower Wages, Unemployment and a far worse future if Europe stays on its present course.

Because half the money are now being given for free to feral rapefugee muds who don't work and constantly demand gimmedats.

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Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	Most Europeans and Americans are poorer than they were 30 years ago. The gap between rich and poor is at record highs and increasing. The reasons are simple. Wages/taxes are being compressed by three ways. Exporting jobs out of the West. No matter What Thommy bleats Chinas hasn't become wealthy by creating extra wealth, it's taken it from the West. Migration of low skilled, low paid and unemployable people has lowered wages, job opportunities and increased the numbers relying on the rest of the people. Automation of jobs. Fewer working people are required every day. From flipping burgers to manufacturing cars. The fewer people getting a living wage, the more people relying on the rest. This has been a process since the 70s, it's only now people are realising the real cost of cheap goods. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

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klinton So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: online Posts: 8,766	@cyberseo as for the article about Spain: it says about total costs of holidays en Malgrat de Mar- en un hotel de tres estrellas, con desayuno y vuelo ida y vuelta cuesta por persona por 28.197 rublos, esto es unos 705 euros. as for taxes in Russia: it is really wonderful. too bad that in EU it is few times more

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QuietPhantom Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 19	I am born in a country where the largest minority are muslims. We have places where they are majority and let me tell you this: if you have a way of not dealing with that shit, enjoy. I don't see a point in letting them in and then working your ass off to preserve your values. Immigration and cult immigration are two different things. Islam is a cult. Many muslims are liberal but the cult leaders take control over the communities and no body talk back because of fear.