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directfiesta

He knows better then the generals ...

and he had a plan ... it was to be great ... yuge !

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Civilians likely killed in Yemen raid: U.S. military | Reuters

The U.S. military has said 14 militants were killed in the raid in al Bayda province on a branch of al Qaeda known as AQAP. Medics at the scene, however, have said around 30 people, including 10 women and children, were killed.

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crockett

Isn't that nice... I wonder how many investigations Republicans in Congress will have about this...

btw notice all the Trumpletons are avoiding all these topics like the plague..

Bladewire

The cucks stop licking Trumps balls to post in support of him in 3..2...

beerptrol

He's to busy signing executive orders in front of the cameras, photo ops, and twittering. He doesn't have the time for intelligence briefings

Just like he was to busy to confer with the departments and figuring out the logisticss required to ban muslims. Getting the photo op of him signing the ban was more important and leaving others to clean up his mess

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Matt 26z

You people are just too damn stupid. Trump didn't draw up plans for the raid. It's pretty fucking obvious that people with the military do that. They had enough confidence in their plan to ask Trump for approval.

And who cares about civilian deaths? They are the ones harboring the bad guys. And I wouldn't shed a tear for killed children either. Look at all of those videos coming out of Isis of kids killing their prisoners. "child casualties" in those parts are just pre-crime executions.

Robbie

Saw on CNN that this operation was already planned by the military before Trump was sworn in.
They were waiting for the right night to do it.
Pretty easy to go to CNN.com and find all of that out instead of making ignorant posts like TCL Girls did with this whole shitshow of a thread

Bladewire

Trump fucked up with Australia, you blame Australia!

Trump fucks up a mission wounding & killing soldiers & children, and you blame the military!

You guys have no integrity or honor at all complete cum swallowing cucks through & through.

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crockett

AMAZING, suddenly CNN isn't fake again when it can be used as argument fodder to defend Trump!!!

beerptrol

Obama wasn't comfortable approving it, so he didn't

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crockett

Obviously a key difference between a competent smart leader and one who spends half his day on Twitter raging about who ever made fun of him that day..

Bladewire

Worth repeating

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Paul Markham

Can you provide us with links please.

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Bladewire

Paul, if Obama wanted to approve it, Trump wouldn't have had to approve it, it would have been a holdover mission ready to go.

"...the raid was Trump's first clandestine strike ? not a holdover mission approved by President Barack Obama. The mission involved "boots on the ground" at an al Qaeda camp near al Bayda in south central Yemen, the official said.

"Almost everything went wrong," the official said."

SEAL, American Girl Die in First Trump-Era U.S. Military Raid - NBC News

Pentagon sources: Obama did not reject plan for Yemen raid | Washington Examiner

_Richard_

is that the raid where you guys shot women and children?

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beerptrol

"The decision was made ... to leave it to the incoming administration, partly in the hope that more and better intelligence could be collected," that official said."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.businessinsider.com/us-military-officials-trump-ordered-raid-in-yemen-that-killed-us-navy-seal-was-approved-without-sufficient-intelligence-2017-2

Paul Markham

This link, on of your links, proves you wrong. Pentagon sources: Obama did not reject plan for Yemen raid | Washington Examiner

Take off the "I Hate Trump more thn using my brain" hat and read it.

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Matt 26z

None captured because they were all killed.

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Google Expert

Dumbass libs.

The Operation was planned an OK'd by Obongo and his people.

john1975

That's because after the Seal died, they told everybody to get back .....They then called in air support to blow the whole place to smitherines ....Thus, the higher death count sounds right to me.

beerptrol

That's because they encountered more resistance than they thought they would encounter do to shitty intelligence

U.S. military officials told Reuters that Trump approved his first covert counterterrorism operation without sufficient intelligence, ground support or adequate backup preparations.

As a result, three officials said, the attacking SEAL team found itself dropping onto a reinforced al Qaeda base defended by landmines, snipers, and a larger than expected contingent of heavily armed Islamist extremists.

The mission objective was botched. If it was about killing as many as possible then it was a success. The buck stops with the chump in chief

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bronco67

....and, predictably. Here he is. Trump's white knight.

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Joshua G

LOL at the bee hive of dumb libs blaming trump for war casualties, as if the real world is like the video games they play.

Reuters says what? Everything they write is liberal fake news. Remember when they said hilary was up by 11 points. Only dumb-tards quote reuters.

Hey dumb libs. Yemen is a shithole, thanks to obama dithering to terror. Now trump had to clean up the mess u dumb libs made.

Its you dumb libs thats wrecking this once great country not trump.

crockett

NO it was not "Approved" by Obama. Obama did not go forward with the raid because they lack intel and specifically stated they would leave it up to the next admin in hopes there was "better intel". No matter how much you try to lie, your lies will never be true..

directfiesta

even with waterboarding ?

I was told torture always works

Robbie

CNN reported that the military was waiting for the right moonlight conditions. Obama's people were 100% on board.
You should take off your blinders.
President Obama loves his country and was VERY deadly using force against terrorism.
This was a military strike put together by field commanders last year 2016 and merely waiting for the right conditions.
Educate yourself and don't let yourself fall into the anti-Trump mob mentality

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directfiesta

who gave the order ?

The community organizer or the reality tv host ?

Robbie

Don't you follow the news at all?
It was reported on CNN that the SEAL's recovered a "Treasure trove of information" and brought back laptops and smartphones full of info.

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Rochard

I initially supported this raid and it looked like a "moderate" success. We killed three of the top terrorists, and initially we were told "dozens of other terrorists" and gathered information.

I was a combat instructor in the Marines; I taught small arms tactics - meaning "there are six bad guys in that building, how do you get them out without losing any men". I understand their first objective was to capture them, and when that proved impossible they quickly fell back to plan B. Grabbing men who don't want to grabbed during a fire fight is nearly impossible.

But now the truth is coming out. This seems to have been poorly planed. Nearly all of the people killed weren't terrorists, but women and children. It also seems these people weren't killed by US Special Forces on the ground, but instead air strikes.

This entire raid by Trump seems to be politically motivated. We are not involved in Yemen, nor has al Qaeda in Yemen attacked us. In his first two weeks in office Trump has needlessly staged in an attack in a country we are not involved in, killed US military personal, and potentially dragged us into a brand new war ONLY so he can look like he is "taking action".

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Robbie

The "order"?
You mean the final "okay"
The acting President did of course.

But it was President Obama's team that put the strike together and were simply waiting for the right time as told to them by the generals.
Is this really so hard to grasp?

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Matt-ADX

Obama Droned more civilians then anyone ever. The Seal team news is noteworthy. Your news is status quo

crockett

Leave it to Robbie to figure out a way to blame Obama. Simply amazing isn't it...

Robbie

Read Inside the Yemen raid: Women al Qaeda fighters surprised US forces - CNNPolitics.com

"The raid was greenlit by President Donald Trump shortly after taking the oath of office, but multiple officials told CNN the mission had been planned months in advance and had been briefed to then-President Barack Obama.

Both defense and Obama administration officials said the operation was never vetoed by Obama and that "operational reasons" were why it was pushed back after January 20 and why Obama left the task of authorizing the raid to his successor."

This is so easy to find out facts on.
Why do people act like they can't?

We get it...you hate Trump.
But when falsehoods like TCL Girls title to this very thread are stated...it destroys your credibility.

Look at the title of this thread: " Navy Seal gets killed in clusterfuck mission because Comrade Trump won't listen to military intel.."

COMPLETELY false.

The entire raid is based on military planning that was months in the making.

How can we have any kind of debate when people do this?

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Smack dat

directfiesta

read the O.P.

Rochard

Robbie... I can't spend every waking day researching what our government does - or did. When this raid happened I read about it, and I based my judgement on what I read then... which was with few details. In short, I've been the victim of White House spin: They claimed this was a success, only one American killed, three top terrorists killed, dozens of other terrorists killed.

What is more important here is that we just staged a military raid into a military conflict that we weren't involved in before.

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Robbie

In my opinion...we have NO business sending our military into other sovereign nations in the first place.

I can't believe that Bush, Obama, and now Trump have been able to do this.

I know that if another country decided to send a team of special opps military into the United States and kill a bunch of people...it would be considered an act of war.

Having said that...I merely wanted to point out that "no" this isn't about Trump's ego or whatever the original post from TCL Girls is trying to say.

This was a carefully planned military strike against Al Queda.
Yemen has been a hotbed and the Saudi's have been leading a coalition with air strikes there for the last few years (in case you were uninformed of what is going on in Yemen).

Is this the way that the U.S. is going to be forced to fight terrorism? With strikes against terrorist cells in other country's?
That's the way it's been happening under the Obama Admin.

Looks like the Trump Admin is going to continue it.

It's a conundrum.
On one hand we are sending our military into sovereign nations.
Many times without even telling them in advance (because we can't trust that they won't give the info to the terrorist groups).

On the other hand...the "enemy" is not a nation with a real army and leadership. They are scattered groups in country's like Yemen.

I don't have the answers to what is "right" and "wrong" on this.

Horrible that children were killed.
But on the other hand....what in the hell were little children doing in a compound full of heavily armed terrorists to begin with?

As White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer said yesterday: It's hard to call any mission a "success" when there is loss of life of one of our people.

On the other hand...the military claims it got a ton of important intelligence that could save lives.

And on the third hand...I simply don't have a lot of trust in the Federal Govt. due to it's history of deception and shady shit.

But at least I try to make statements based on what I see "reported" by the shitty press we have here in the U.S.

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bronco67

Obama administration planned this raid?

But Republicans said Obama wasn't doing anything about terrorism.

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Matt 26z

White House press sec. just said that the raid was approved under Obama, but they were waiting for a moonless night.... which wasn't going to happen until Trump was president.

Bladewire

Even after he killed Osama

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Bladewire

Oh the same guy that said the mission was 100% success, then the next day took it back.

The same guy that had an emergency press conference to claim Trump inauguration crowd was the biggest in history, then took it back the next day.

The same administration that admitted On TV LIVE that they use "alternative facts" (lies) to make their case.

Robbie

So now you believe the Republicans?

WTF...can't you get it through your head that both political party's are only out for themselves and their cronies?

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Bladewire

This is true, but why you always lick Trumps balls? Never see you admit his administrations mistakes or his mistakes.

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