Welcome to the GoFuckYourself.com - Adult Webmaster Forum forums.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.

Post New Thread Reply

Register GFY Rules Calendar
Go Back   GoFuckYourself.com - Adult Webmaster Forum > >
Discuss what's fucking going on, and which programs are best and worst. One-time "program" announcements from "established" webmasters are allowed.

 
Thread Tools
Old Today, 05:17 AM   #1
daviking
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 257
When should a host upgrade a server?

Three years ago I got a spec'd out Dual Xeon 16 Cores Server with 128 GB RAM and a bunch of HDD Drives. I am still paying top dollar for somewhat out-of-date hardware. Especially since Ryzens and NVMes offer an insane increase in performance.

So my question is, at what point should a host upgrade a server? What's the industry standard? What should I expect from my host?
daviking is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old Today, 05:20 AM   #2
k0nr4d
Confirmed User
 
k0nr4d's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Poland
Posts: 9,166
Quote:
Originally Posted by daviking View Post
Three years ago I got a spec'd out Dual Xeon 16 Cores Server with 128 GB RAM and a bunch of HDD Drives. I am still paying top dollar for somewhat out-of-date hardware. Especially since Ryzens and NVMes offer an insane increase in performance.

So my question is, at what point should a host upgrade a server? What's the industry standard? What should I expect from my host?
If they offer better for the same amount of money, you should ask them to either update you to the newer hardware they offer for the same price, or reduce your bill. Often hosts will lease hardware for 2-3 years and pay it off using your bill so after 3 years it's probably paid off, leaving them only bandwidth/electric/labor costs. Moving websites is a pain in the ass - sometimes things break during the move, and if you don't actually NEED the faster hardware there's no sense.
k0nr4d is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old Today, 05:22 AM   #3
CurrentlySober
Too lazy to wipe my ass
 
CurrentlySober's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: A Public Bathroom
Posts: 37,868
Have you perhaps contacted the host, & asked if they would consider giving you a discount, before you yourself consider moving to another host with better specs?

Or, if its not about the price, but the updated specs you could always look around and move?
CurrentlySober is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old Today, 05:52 AM   #4
3xmedia
Confirmed User
 
3xmedia's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 5,697
not sure about the industry standard but after 3 years being with the same hardware I think it could be the right time to ask for an upgrade (if you need better specs) or a discount (if the hardware is fine for your needs).
__________________
---
3xmedia is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old Today, 07:22 AM   #5
2MuchMark
Videochat Solutions
 
2MuchMark's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Canada
Posts: 45,814
Quote:
Originally Posted by daviking View Post
Three years ago I got a spec'd out Dual Xeon 16 Cores Server with 128 GB RAM and a bunch of HDD Drives. I am still paying top dollar for somewhat out-of-date hardware. Especially since Ryzens and NVMes offer an insane increase in performance.

So my question is, at what point should a host upgrade a server? What's the industry standard? What should I expect from my host?
Hi Daviking,

A little knowledge will go a long way. Do this: Login to your server via Terminal, and run the HTOP command. This will show you how busy your server is. Run it at various times of the day to get a good average. If you don't know how or don't want to, ask tech support to do it for you.

If you see that your server is never maxed-out, then don't upgrade it. Switching to a faster server won't give you any kind of performance boost in this case.

Instead, ask your hosting provider for a discount instead. Even though reputable hosting providers upgrade their servers from time to time, servers are made to have very long lifespans.

If you find that your server is running out of resources, you can ask them to upgrade your server for you. It it is a virtual machine, upgrades take only a few minutes, and your server does not even go down during the upgrade process. Double check the price to make sure its affordable if it isn't free.

If you need more information feel free to PM me. I don't sell hosting services nor am I affiliated with any, but I can help you navigate this maze if needed.

Good luck!
__________________

VideoChat Solutions | Custom Software | IT Support
https://www.2much.net | https://www.lcntech.com
2MuchMark is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old Today, 08:57 AM   #6
Tasty1
Judge Jury and Executioner
 
Tasty1's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: South-America
Posts: 8,577
What we saw that it is best to change servers after 3 year if you have your own server.
Than the new ones use less energy and the new server pays itself back in 3/4 years.
__________________

everything is fake
Tasty1 is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old Today, 10:50 AM   #7
k0nr4d
Confirmed User
 
k0nr4d's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Poland
Posts: 9,166
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2MuchMark View Post
Hi Daviking,

A little knowledge will go a long way. Do this: Login to your server via Terminal, and run the HTOP command. This will show you how busy your server is. Run it at various times of the day to get a good average. If you don't know how or don't want to, ask tech support to do it for you.

If you see that your server is never maxed-out, then don't upgrade it. Switching to a faster server won't give you any kind of performance boost in this case.

Instead, ask your hosting provider for a discount instead. Even though reputable hosting providers upgrade their servers from time to time, servers are made to have very long lifespans.

If you find that your server is running out of resources, you can ask them to upgrade your server for you. It it is a virtual machine, upgrades take only a few minutes, and your server does not even go down during the upgrade process. Double check the price to make sure its affordable if it isn't free.

If you need more information feel free to PM me. I don't sell hosting services nor am I affiliated with any, but I can help you navigate this maze if needed.

Good luck!
Adding to this as Mark didn't make it clear what constitutes "maxed out". Run 'uptime' via SSH.
You will see something like "load average: 3.08, 3.04, 3.00":

It's a 1, 5 and 15 minute average. 1.00 per core is 100% cpu usage. So if you have 32 cores, 32.00 is 100% usage. Also check things like iostat to see if harddrive is your bottleneck.

If you have 32 cores and your load is like 1 or 2 you need less server, not more.
k0nr4d is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Post New Thread Reply
Go Back   GoFuckYourself.com - Adult Webmaster Forum > >

Bookmarks

Tags
server, host, upgrade, insane, increase, nvmes, hardware, performance, ryzens, offer, industry, standard, expect, question, out-of-date, paying, xeon, dual, cores, specd, ago, top, dollar, drives, ram



Advertising inquiries - marketing at gfy dot com

Contact Admin - Advertise - GFY Rules - Top

©2000-, AI Media Network Inc



Powered by vBulletin
Copyright © 2000- Jelsoft Enterprises Limited.