2MuchMark

LOL! Are you fucking serious?

Goodbye clean air, blue water, people, animals, common sense...

https://thinkprogress.org/white-hous...af8#.5gth5wi8i

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nice meltdown

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE

I thought it was global warming? Now it's climate change

Good, it should be taken down. It's a complete and utter hoax and scam. It's FAKE NEWS

2MuchMark

ok dokee.

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Joshua G

actually, the first thing trump did as president, was to put his name on the white house!

Bladewire

What Trump says is different than what his people do, interesting.

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Joshua G

hey OP, when the libs who forecast weather get the 5 day forecast right, then i will start believing their 50 year, 1000 year forecasts.

2MuchMark

Weather and Climate are not the same thing, dumbass. But hey, don't tire yourself out with thinking.

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You guys are so gullible



The website is the responsibility of the current administration. It is changed for each new president.

The majority of content on WhiteHouse.gov was transferred to ObamaWhiteHouse.gov on Inauguration Day, and the terms "LGBT" and "climate change" were not specifically removed by Donald Trump.

Hopeless you are.

Smack dat

Water isn't blue

baddog

He isn't exactly the sharpest tool in the shed.

EonBlue

Reducing CO2 does not lead to "clean" air.

Reducing CO2 does not change the colour of water.

More people die every year from cold weather than from hot weather.

More animals die every year because of government efforts to "control" the climate than die from the climate actually changing. And poachers.

The greatest lack of common sense is spending trillions of dollars and impoverishing millions of people in an attempt to finely tune and control the levels of an essential and life enabling trace gas in the atmosphere.




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Bladewire

We don't trust you. Link to your source or we'll keep assuming you're lying again.

kane

I saw Chris Matthews on Colbert last night. He worked as a speech writer for President Carter and was there during the transition. He said the day of the inauguration is very strange. Moving trucks pull up and you pack your stuff and leave. A huge crew of people come in and remove everything including all the pictures of the President and his family and they replace them with pics of the new President and his family. He went on to say when they are done with the job it is like the previous President never existed in the house and feels like the new one has been there forever.

It was kind of interesting.

2MuchMark

Actually, it is!

Water is molecule made of 3 atoms (2 Hydrogen, 1 Oxygen). This molecule has 3 modes of vibration including 2 stretching vibrations of oxygen-hydrogen bonds (which occur at v1 = 3650 cm−1 and v3 = 3755 cm−1. Absorption due to these vibrations occurs in the infrared spectrum of light, making the water slightly blue.

Most of the blue we see in water is reflected by the sky, but not always.

Science, Bitches!

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D'oh! me forget!

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Correct! But I didn't say that. Too much fossil fuels which contain CO2 is what makes air dirty.

Correct! And I didn't say that either. However, the oceans absorb CO2, and too much CO2 will make the oceans too acidic, destroying some life in it. And if too too much life is lost, it can affect the food chain.

Correct! But I didn't say this either, and, your point is moot. If the weather gets too hot, it will be harder to grow crops, raising the price of food. Ice caps can melt raising the ocean. Warmer oceans can result in longer, stronger storms, flooding, etc. Hot weather is already blamed for deaths in the United States each year.


I had not heard that before. Links?

I found this : 7 Species Hit Hard by Climate Change—Including One That's Already Extinct

Is it wrong?

Poachers are real bastards.


CO2 in the atmosphere, in the natural balance, is normal, natural, and beneficial. It's good for plants and helps keep the planet at a nice comfy average temperature.

The problem is TOO MUCH CO2 (and TOO MUCH Methane and other "greenhouse gasses"). Too much CO2 reflects some heat of the planet which normally escapes into space, back towards the ground, quickly increasing the average temperature of the planet. We are tipping the balance and upsetting the Natural ratios of gasses, temperatures, chemicals etc of our planet, and that is the problem.

Peace.

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Ocean pollution is the only issue with the planet and we are doing it no justice with climate change and global warming.

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The problem is TOO MUCH CO2 (and TOO MUCH Methane, etc). We are tipping the balance, and that is the problem.


That is not happening.

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baddog

Stay ignorant; I really don't care.

Bladewire

Humans have a history of changing our evironment to our peril ( Easter Island, the Myans )

EonBlue

Best then to spend the billions and trillions on cleaning up the actual harmful pollutants in fossil fuels. CO2 is not a problem. All of the CO2 contained in fossil fuels used to be in the atmosphere. We are just putting it back where it belongs.

If the oceans are warming then they cannot absorb CO2. Not from the air at least. Warming oceans actually release CO2. That's actually where much of the rise in atmospheric CO2 has come from.

Record crop yields in the supposed hottest year ever:

FAO Cereal Supply and Demand BriefÂ*| FAO | Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations
Southeast AgNET » Archive Corn, Soybean Production Up in 2016 - Southeast AgNET

The only thing raising the price of food is carbon taxes and turning food into biofuel in an attempt to reduce CO2.

There were fewer major tropical cyclones making landfall in 2016 compared to 2015. Tropical cyclone numbers for 2016 were below the 40-year average.


More deaths from cold than heat:
Study: Cold kills 20 times more people than heat


Don't know if that is necessarily wrong. But do you honestly expect them to do an objective assessment of all the animals killed and species threatened due to habitat loss caused by our efforts to reduce CO2 by burning biofuels instead of fossil fuels? Look up the plight of the Orangutan.

Please show me in the Earth manual where it states what the normal, natural balance of CO2 in the atmosphere is.

CO2 levels are far nearer to 0 than at almost any other time in the geologic record. For most of history they have been much, much higher than now. Why do you assume that almost deathly low is normal while higher is abnormal?

Again, current "average" temperature is well below what it has been for much of the geologic record.

It cannot radiate heat back towards the ground because that violates the law of thermodynamics. It can radiate heat into the cooler atmosphere but that just leads to more convection which helps move heat out into space. The Earth is not a glass topped greenhouse that physically traps heat. The atmosphere is fluid and dynamic and it is not a closed system.




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JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE

If CO2 is a problem then ban fucking cars!

TheSquealer

thats some fancy googling you did there... however....

color is a construct of the brain.

neuroscience, bitches!

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Joshua G

funny. i always thought "weather" was the unstable behavior of the climate.

but according to dumb libs, weather has nothing to do with the climate.

got it.

Joshua G

does mark prince actually not know weather is the behavior of the climate? & a forecast of the weather is a forecast of the climate? & that "climate change" occurs everytime the sun goes up & down?

OMG those are some fucked up libby schools you went to marky mark.

kane

Climate is a description of long-term weather patterns while weather is used to describe the short-term conditions.

Examples:

If the weather is consistently hot and humid then it would be considered to be a tropical climate. If the weather was consistently cold and snowing it would be considered an arctic climate.

A weather forecast is not the forecast of the climate but a forecast of conditions that may change from day to day or even hour to hour etc.

Therefore, weather change is the short-term change in conditions. Climate change is a change in the prevailing weather in an area over a long period of time.

2MuchMark

NASA and NOAA disagree with you on that.


But why spend so much money when there is already cleaner and less expensive forms of energy available? GE is already doing it: GE takes a profit on the back of renewable energy gains - UPI.com

Ok, interesting.... do you have any links to back this up? I would like to read it.

Yes that's right, but that makes the problem worse, not better. The ocean is the biggest warehouse of Co2, you're right about that. It's absorbing more and thats causing Acidification. But yes maybe if it gets too warm, it will start releasing all of its CO2. Acidification may go down who knows, but that will mean alot more CO2 in the atmosphere, making the planet warmer, won't it?


Found this: Ocean Carbon Uptake


Not according to the EPA : https://www.epa.gov/climate-impacts/...nd-food-supply

I'll meet you half-way on this though. I never understood the interest in biofuel. Growing food mainly for fuel is wrong somehow..

Yes that's true, but there are other forms of extreme weather such as heavy rains or extreme dry heat and drought. Look at what is happening in Texas... And besides, I think what we should be looking at is the Average weather. Just because there was a dip last year doesn't mean things are ok.

Check out this report from the Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Laboratory: https://www.gfdl.noaa.gov/historical...storm-records/


No but that's not what the report was about. It was about the effect on the animals and species due to climate change, not the cause of climate change.

Are you referring to their loss of habitant due to deforestation and clear-cutting? If so, thats fucking terrible. If you're referring to something else, please explain.


You know what? That's a really good question. I spent a few minutes googling it but couldn't really find an answer to that (I'm tired). However according to sites like

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon...9;s_atmosphere

and

https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...te-numerology/

it has to be kept below 350 ppm. I'm not smart enough to understand the whys and hows and chemisty of it all, but if thats what science is saying, its gotta be true.


That's impossible. Plants and all creatures breathe out CO2. Vocanoes sprew it and other greenhouse gasses like co2 and methane, and of course all mamals fart out methane. Where did you read that CO2 is the lower now than its ever been?



(Wow! You know what dude? You are almost right on this... This is a great argument. I am not trying to be a smart ass. I am truly enjoying this conversation).

Anyway, you logic is flawed. It does not violate the law of thermodynamics. You are forgetting the fact that the Earth is being warmed by the sun. There is a good explanation about this at https://www.skepticalscience.com/Sec...use-theory.htm

I am enjoying this - and thanks for keeping it civil!

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For you: https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/n...e_weather.html

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MiamiBoyz

You are starting to see why I voted for Trump.

Making America Great Again will simple speed up the extinction of the human race.

This is the way it should be. Humans are destructive parasites on the earth.

PornDiscounts-V

You are a fake American.

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kane

I've seen you say this multiple times. If you really feel this way why don't you kill yourself? Make a manifesto and then off yourself and maybe you will start a mass suicide that will help kill these parasites you hate so much.

Joshua G

OK like im gonna believe obamas NASA. right. didnt obama censor the debate about climate change? how scientific.

next you will link to PETA & tell me they are "objective" too.

NatalieK

Trump´s also redecorated the White House within hrs of holding the keys. He´s changed the plush business like maroon curtains to cheap & tacky gold drapes...





Donald Trump has been in the Oval Office five minutes and he's already redecorated - Mirror Online

He seems to have other agendas like pimping the white house than worrying about the environment...

what a wanker

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SilentKnight

Read the latest Fraser Institute's study on the complete lack of effect on air quality in Ontario after Premier Wynne shut down the two coalfire energy plants.

The result was negligible - and could have been achieved by adding additional scrubbers in the system at a tiny fraction of the cost.

Climate change and carbon footprint is all a scam perpetrated by the governments in an attempt to make us feel guilty and leech more taxes from us all.

TheSquealer

At least he won't vandalize and rob the place like Hillary Clinton did both to the White House and her State Department offices.

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baddog

To paraphrase SNL: Natalie, you ignorant slut.

That is done with every new administration

SilentKnight

Gary will take exception to the word 'ignorant'.

beerptrol

And in his wife's bio they mentioned her jewlery line on QVC and removed it after twitter blew up about it

"Melania is also a successful entrepreneur. In April 2010, Melania Trump launched her own jewelry collection, 'Melania Timepieces & Jewelry,' on QVC,"

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NatalieK

you are an ass, calling me ignorant & a slut in one sentence, considering I came on this thread a second time, only to post this relevant info to say to Blade, here´s the source agreeing with your previous post...


I maybe a slut, but doesn´t change the fact, you´re a foul mouthed, disrespectful wanker

here´s the link from Snopes for you & the relevance to what you´d posted, ass hole...

Did Donald Trump Remove the Terms 'LGBT' and 'Climate Change' from the White House Web Site? : snopes.com

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oh, and it doesn´t matter who does the make over, it still looks cheap & nasty like Dirty Don and his merry ole men

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Fake News. All of Obama's whitehouse.gov was moved to archives at obamawhitehouse.gov and Trump now controls whitehouse.gov

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kane

I can't tell. In that picture with Trump is that statue of a head in the background of Trump or Chewbacca?

SilentKnight

EonBlue

It's the Winston Churchill statue that Obama removed on his first day in office.




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I am not surprised at all by this.

onwebcam

I'm not surprised at all by you believing this fake news.

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baddog

Agreed; I used to give him more credit.