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JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE · 03-11-2017, 12:57 PM

lol $1 a scene wtf?

Odysseus · 03-11-2017, 01:16 PM

Jel · 03-11-2017, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

Independent models or cam girls?
I possibly read something into the transaction.

At any rate I ain't ever buying anything from a GFY member using a personal paypal or other MTA. Legit businesses only. Sorry you got fucked on the deals you got yourselves into.

lol, you are quoting a post AFTER the fact... Man... you are one of the most intelligent guys on this board when it comes to certain things, but dumb as shit in this thread. Of course I got scammed (still think it's an almighty fuck up, maybe I'm just not willing to go as far as that without concrete evidence, which for this instance we'll never have. Seen many people get themselves in the shit without it being pre-meditated, so I can't go as far as just screaming 'scammer'), I was the one who brought it up in the thread in the first place that something was off. Fuck, go read it again lol. Actually it's just dawned on me while writing that out - seems you think the problem is the people who didn't get their content are somehow 'stupid', and to inflate your ego you jumped in here to let them know how savvy you are, and spotted it a mile away. Well, a mile away AFTER the fact, but hey what are a few details amongst board users

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In general... what Sly said. My last bunch of content I paid $2.10 a scene for, certainly not a stretch that someone needed some quick cash.

The idiocy of the hindsight-posters in this thread is level 10. Those who didn't get the content said hold on a sec.. then it all comes out, then drunk/stoned/retarded come out the woodwork and try to point out the stuff said after Brian got called out, and claim it as a gotcha. You couldn't make that logic fail up lol.

Oh, and l m f a o at the markham find

Jel · 03-11-2017, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by sarettah

Hey Paul,

I just found this deal of videos for $1.00 a piece. It isn't 1000 but it is quite a lot of content.

But I guess it must be a rip-off because it is $1.00/scene and no one but a scammer would sell their content that cheaply.

270 Videos for $270.00

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That alone was worth $220

The Porn Nerd · 03-11-2017, 01:32 PM

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That alone was worth $220

Yes, almost pays me back with pure entertainment value. LOL

Barry-xlovecam · 03-11-2017, 01:34 PM

Jel, I am not the dumb shit that lost $200 on a two bit GFY scam -- learn from your lesson or get scammed again

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE · 03-11-2017, 01:36 PM

Porn Nerd, what's your paypal, I'll send u the $1800

Jel · 03-11-2017, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

Jel, I am not the dumb shit that lost $200 on a two bit GFY scam -- learn from your lesson or get scammed again

Ok champ

all I'll have lost at the end of this was my time... by far the largest part of it spent in this thread - which as it turned out was actually well spent, just to see markham pwn himself yet again. Added bonus was you flapping around deflecting because you couldn't understand you were going on after-the-fact info. Like I said, stick to cams & domains, you know your shit there.

ps Learn how paypal works before feeling good that someone else got 'scammed' numbnuts

Don't forget to take your orange curly wig off before bedtime

Barry-xlovecam · 03-11-2017, 01:53 PM

Yeah, don't do any porn on Paypal unless the goods are shipped and delivered by UPS or USPS.

Butthurt a little ...
At first you manned up and said you should have known better ... now this stupid shit ..

Jel · 03-11-2017, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

Yeah, don't do any porn on Paypal unless the goods are shipped and delivered by UPS or USPS.

Butthurt a little ...
At first you manned up and said you should have known better ... now this stupid shit ..

And I stand by my lack of due diligence... for $200 though... tbh I'd sooner free up my time. I'm more careful with real sums of money.

And behave... the shit flinging started with you trying to show how clever you were, whilst being comically unaware you weren't clever enough to keep track of the timeline. So gfy and save the condascending crap for the threads where you DO know what you're talking about, instead of aiming it at those who spoke up in this one, so there's a reference for future users of the forum

Only a fucking tool would crow where people didn't get goods ordered (despite pretty much all of them from what I've read so far being able to get 'clipped' for 200 bucks without skipping a heartbeat), you might wanna take a minute to think what a total cunt you look. And yes, I already know *I'm* one

You're right about being butthurt in a way, but it was that I yet again let myself be dragged into the idiocy that's so prevalent on here... man I fall for that one every fucking time - more fool me for sure!

JesseQuinn · 03-11-2017, 02:14 PM

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Jel, I am not the...

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Ok champ

both of you are awesome (although, yes, Barry you can be a blowhard but I find it endearing cuz there's rarely any real spite attached and it's fucking hilarious when you get super-literal).

don't drag each other down like this, not worth it. @Barry, Jel and I are fine. I feel hella bad for Trainwreck and PN though, as they had higher amounts involved

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Yeah, don't do any porn on Paypal unless the goods are shipped and delivered by UPS or USPS

thing is, if we get refunded we'll be refunded by paypal. funnily enough I wanted to pay via ACH through my business bank account, but like a lot of legit webmasters from whom I've made purchases, Brian requested paypal

if I'd paid through my bank I'd have no real recourse when he failed to deliver. so in retrospect doing something that was not my first choice (sending via paypal) will be the reason I'll prob get paid back.

hope the same is true for others. now I'm out for real

amani y'all

Barry-xlovecam · 03-11-2017, 02:15 PM

HAHA peace out don't get fucked over by another low-life again

Barry-xlovecam · 03-11-2017, 02:18 PM

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thing is, if we get refunded we'll be refunded by paypal. funnily enough I wanted to pay via ACH through my business bank account, but like a lot of legit webmasters from whom I've made purchases, Brian requested paypal

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Instant red-flag with me -- I hope Paypal refunds everyone if Brian doesn't. Or at least partial less any "goods" actually received.

Paul Markham · 03-12-2017, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by sarettah

Hey Paul,

I just found this deal of videos for $1.00 a piece. It isn't 1000 but it is quite a lot of content.

But I guess it must be a rip-off because it is $1.00/scene and no one but a scammer would sell their content that cheaply.

270 Videos for $270.00

.

All scenes SD, solo girl, normal porn and sold many times before 2008. Keep clutching desperately at straws to make the greedy look good. It still doesn't work.

Paul Markham · 03-12-2017, 01:00 AM

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The samples looked fine, I had done biz with him before, and he sent me a HD of content (and not 'camgirl videos' but hardcore B/G scenes, some G/G and a few solo). The problem? No docs for the content he sent me, and there were only 45 videos instead of the 200+ he promised me. When I asked for an exclusive license, the correct content or a refund that's when the problems started.

Since no docs, IDs or 2257, I can't even use the content he did send me.

As for scenarios where content has not been sold and is just sitting there:

Are you saying you dealt with him before and he never delivered what was promised?

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From a website, now taken down never to re-launch.
Models who do content exchanges in lieu of payment with newbs.
Newbs who think they want to get into Adult, shoot some content, then decide otherwise.
Photographers who have not yet monetized the content and decided they don't want the headaches of making a site, selling it, etc.
Husbands, now divorced, who have the rights to the content they made with their ex-wives.
Wives who got the content rights in the divorce and don't know what to do with it.

These are just a few examples.

Still worth more than $1 a scene.

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In Brian's case we're also talking Florida so who knows what they're thinking down there. Could easily have been rednecks fucking around, doing meth all day, doing one drug-fueled sex scene with some trailer park trash whore after another, letting the tapes pile up as they foolishly, hopelessly chase their "dream" of internet porn stardom.

Stop making excuses and own up to being taken.

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Whatever, fucking pay me back Brian.

You have more chances of winning the lottery.

Paul Markham · 03-12-2017, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly

Is selling content for $1 a piece that far off from $10 a piece? What about $5 a piece? What's the exact cut off where a person XYZ is no longer able to throw out their content for any price to cash in on it?

I own over 200 exclusive scenes. I would never dream of selling the rights to them, let alone sell them for pennies on the dollar, but I can certainly understand how someone might want to do that. Selling this batch at $10 a piece with 10 licenses would net $20k this year. Selling it again next year at $5 a piece with 20 licenses would net $20k next year. Maybe the year after that is $3, maybe the year after that is $1.

Point being, own content and you can do whatever the fuck you want with it. I have bought plenty of content from dirt cheap sources, including one person spouting off in this thread.

^^

Putting that kind of content on C4S, which is a very bad earner, would make more than $20 a scene over time. Putting in Adult Centro would make $2,000 a month once all up. I have 450 SD scenes and 1100 photosets on there and they make over $500 a month with no work. HD Hardcore would make a lot more. Even Sarah points out a deal of $1 a scene content that keeps selling.

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Blaming the buyer for getting "scammed" is in the same ballpark as blaming a cute girl for getting her ass slapped by a drunk douchebag.

This is no comparison. This was an obvious scam.

Paul Markham · 03-12-2017, 01:17 AM

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Haha FOR THE WIN!!

Paul please take your meds. You're forgetting your own $1 deals!! LOL

Classic.

Stop smoking that strong weed. You're missing the point. My $1 a scene is non-exclusive, saturated, SD, Solo Girl, Straight Porn. And still sells well at as a bundle at $1 a scene.

The people buying these deals can afford them. You don't buy because you can't profit from them. You're unable to sell 10 memberships to cover the costs. You need far better deals to make any profit.

The Porn Nerd · 03-12-2017, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Stop smoking that strong weed. You're missing the point. My $1 a scene is non-exclusive, saturated, SD, Solo Girl, Straight Porn. And still sells well at as a bundle at $1 a scene.

The people buying these deals can afford them. You don't buy because you can't profit from them. You're unable to sell 10 memberships to cover the costs. You need far better deals to make any profit.

Paul I think it's you who is smoking the strong Czech medical marijuana. LOL Your shit was non-exclusive, so was Brian's. No difference. You really (as usual) don't know what you're talking about here. MY deal with Brian was for EXCLUSIVE, videos he had not sold to anyone else yet. If I was interested in non-exclusive I could also make $ with it just not as much.

But that's ok, I'm not going to go over the details for someone more interested in being a snarky old man gloating over someone else getting ripped off. Say what you want about me or the others who got screwed by brian but you are on the wrong side of this Paul. Again, as usual.

Carry on.

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE · 03-12-2017, 10:50 AM

Whats your paypal addy?

JesseQuinn · 03-12-2017, 12:35 PM

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someone more interested in being a snarky old man gloating over someone else getting ripped off

this is why it's an inefficient use of time and often unpleasant to try to have a conversation with him. mean and ego-driven is difficult combination, I find anyways

besides, think about how few real joys in life one must have to get off on ish like this. we shouldn't take that away from him

hope you're having a wicked day PN, and for real have my fingers crossed for both you and Trainwreck that you win your paypal disputes

Paul Markham · 03-12-2017, 11:57 PM

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Paul I think it's you who is smoking the strong Czech medical marijuana. LOL Your shit was non-exclusive, so was Brian's. No difference. You really (as usual) don't know what you're talking about here. MY deal with Brian was for EXCLUSIVE, videos he had not sold to anyone else yet. If I was interested in non-exclusive I could also make $ with it just not as much.

But that's ok, I'm not going to go over the details for someone more interested in being a snarky old man gloating over someone else getting ripped off. Say what you want about me or the others who got screwed by brian but you are on the wrong side of this Paul. Again, as usual.

Carry on.

My content is for something that existed Brian's deal was for smoke. My content has been sold over the last 20+ years, Brians was for smoke.

However. I owe you an apology on the different value we are putting on content. My pricing is based on what I earn from content, your estimation is based on what you earn from content. Which is clearly a lot less.

After he made the deal with you for exclusive at $1,800. Where did you think he was getting the extra scenes?

Taking candy from a baby.

The Porn Nerd · 03-13-2017, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

My content is for something that existed Brian's deal was for smoke. My content has been sold over the last 20+ years, Brians was for smoke.

However. I owe you an apology on the different value we are putting on content. My pricing is based on what I earn from content, your estimation is based on what you earn from content. Which is clearly a lot less.

After he made the deal with you for exclusive at $1,800. Where did you think he was getting the extra scenes?

Taking candy from a baby.

Dear Paul, your content is worth EXACTLY $1.

And if we are having a contest as to who can better sell porn on the internet I will stand on the podium and take the prize. You wouldn't even come in the Top 100.

Brian showed samples, had sent me content in the past, and I am not the only one burned here. Yes, I tried to strike an exclusive deal with him vs. taking the non-exclusive package he was selling to everyone else. Weird of me, isn't it? Yes I am a BAD businessman!

But the bigger (and funnier) aspect to your barbs is how you consistently say (and think) I don't make money in this business selling porn. And yet I've been selling porn going on eight years now and have generated millions in revenue over that time (yes it's true). We won't compare your 'success' with selling your content because I don't want to hurt your feelings.

Move along now Gramps. There are some kids messing around on your lawn.

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE · 03-13-2017, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

Dear Paul, your content is worth EXACTLY $1.

And if we are having a contest as to who can better sell porn on the internet I will stand on the podium and take the prize. You wouldn't even come in the Top 100.

Brian showed samples, had sent me content in the past, and I am not the only one burned here. Yes, I tried to strike an exclusive deal with him vs. taking the non-exclusive package he was selling to everyone else. Weird of me, isn't it? Yes I am a BAD businessman!

But the bigger (and funnier) aspect to your barbs is how you consistently say (and think) I don't make money in this business selling porn. And yet I've been selling porn going on eight years now and have generated millions in revenue over that time (yes it's true). We won't compare your 'success' with selling your content because I don't want to hurt your feelings.

Move along now Gramps. There are some kids messing around on your lawn.

Give me your paypal email and this all goes away in seconds

Paul Markham · 03-13-2017, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

Dear Paul, your content is worth EXACTLY $1.

Todat it still sells for more. Back in the day it sold for $3,000 a scene.

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And if we are having a contest as to who can better sell porn on the internet I will stand on the podium and take the prize. You wouldn't even come in the Top 100.

So you claim. But when it comes to a career in porn, you don't get into the race.

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Brian showed samples, had sent me content in the past, and I am not the only one burned here. Yes, I tried to strike an exclusive deal with him vs. taking the non-exclusive package he was selling to everyone else. Weird of me, isn't it? Yes I am a BAD businessman!

How many exclusive scenes did he promise you? Did you ever question where they were coming from?

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But the bigger (and funnier) aspect to your barbs is how you consistently say (and think) I don't make money in this business selling porn. And yet I've been selling porn going on eight years now and have generated millions in revenue over that time (yes it's true). We won't compare your 'success' with selling your content because I don't want to hurt your feelings.

Of course you make money in porn. Just not enough to pay for decent porn. Show us some sites you own with up to date content you purchased for a decent price.

And that's where your bullshit ends. You don't have sites with content that costs a decent price. Whereas we were producing content on a continual basis that was sold for $1,000s. your opinion on its value is worthless. Please don't even try to compare your lousy sites with my porn production. Or are you basing this only on your narrow attempts at making a living against my career from selling in all porn markets? You only own a few lousy sites.

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Move along now Gramps. There are some kids messing around on your lawn.

Us older guys were doing it for real.

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