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Old 01-11-2017, 02:38 AM   #1
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Payoneer - closing??

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"We’re excited! Today we’re announcing that together with our long-standing business partner, Choice Bank, we will be launching a new brand called Firstchoice Pay and transitioning you to it on February 1st, 2017. "
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Hi, please allow me to explain.

I know that many of you have received an email announcing the launch of Firstchoice Pay. I am happy to share this exciting news with you and I hope that I can help support this transition which takes place at the beginning of February.

Under the Firstchoice Pay brand, we will continue to support your payment needs and assure you that you have a quality payment provider for years to come. I am here to personally make sure that your transition to the new brand and platform will be effortless and familiar.

If you have further questions above the information you received in your email, please let me know so I can help you find out about how the new brand will support your payment needs.

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Hi Dan,

Congrats!

Hoping that this will bring some good changes

Will this be finally solving the discrepancies such as not all accounts being able to send to one another?
- mainstream accounts VS adult accounts
- card accounts VS bank-transfer accounts (as in you can't get paid from all companies if you have a bank-transfer Payoneer)

It's a real problem currently that you may need to open a lot of Payoneer accounts to be able to get paid from different sources. It's very confusing for both the users, and the companies sending the payouts.

Some other suggestions:

It'd also help if you had a standard fees system that's stated on the website, instead of a per-account/per-payment-source fee system.

It would also be great if you could create a company account from any country. Right now some companies can only sign up when going through a payout program's link.
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Hi Dan,

Congrats!

Hoping that this will bring some good changes

Will this be finally solving the discrepancies such as not all accounts being able to send to one another?
- mainstream accounts VS adult accounts
- card accounts VS bank-transfer accounts (as in you can't get paid from all companies if you have a bank-transfer Payoneer)

It's a real problem currently that you may need to open a lot of Payoneer accounts to be able to get paid from different sources. It's very confusing for both the users, and the companies sending the payouts.

Some other suggestions:

It'd also help if you had a standard fees system that's stated on the website, instead of a per-account/per-payment-source fee system.

It would also be great if you could create a company account from any country. Right now some companies can only sign up when going through a payout program's link.
Hi, thank you so much! One of the aims is to minimize confusions and provide better services, and simple fee structures. I Hope we'll be in touch soon.
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Hi, thank you so much! One of the aims is to minimize confusions and provide better services, and simple fee structures. I Hope we'll be in touch soon.
Sounds great, looking forward to it
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Hi, I'm trying to follow your statement, what can I help with?
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hello, so if there will be no payoneer, will be the payoneer cards working? i have just received mine two weeks ago
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you sleepy dan? why are you forming another service? you took out the features in payoneer.(bank withdraw) why didn't you just put them back? i asked this years ago never an answer.
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Old 01-11-2017, 03:36 AM   #11
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login they shoot you an email. i didn't get the fuking email till i logged in. kind of like nats
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I was wondering why my new card has the logo of Choice bank instead this one of Payoneer. Maybe that explains everything. But if we need new cards again, I just get back to Paxum.
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Do we need new debitcards also, or are that already the new cards we got last month?
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Payoneer is not closing, but it looks like they are getting rid of adult (and cam sites/girls) and sold that part of to Choice's payment service https://www.firstchoicepay.com/
They say it's a partnership, but nothing on firstchoicepay.com suggests that's it is some kind of partnership with any company, the website, domain, etc. are fully owned by Choice Bank.

I guess after Payoneer got the big seed investment last year they needed to get rid of adult and made some deal with Choice to take over that part.

Choice is also the issuer of the Payoneer (and Paxum) debit cards and have been around for a very long time so it's nothing to worry about.


Here is an article from November 2016 on a Romanian site that says "Payoneer that no longer wants to work with adult reason that made her different company specifically for the live web camming." Payoneer devine FirstChoicePay. Metode de plata folosite de siteurile de videochat - PISPIS.RO NEWS
it looks like they already informed the adult and cam sites etc. about the change a few months ago.

From Payoneer: "We have notified all of the platforms you work with who will transition to Firstchoice Pay regarding this change, and together, we have worked hard to ensure a smooth transition."
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Payoneer is not closing, but it looks like they are getting rid of adult (and cam sites/girls) and sold that part of to Choice's payment service https://www.firstchoicepay.com/
They say it's a partnership, but nothing on firstchoicepay.com suggests that's it is some kind of partnership with any company, the website, domain, etc. are fully owned by Choice Bank.

I guess after Payoneer got the big seed investment last year they needed to get rid of adult and made some deal with Choice to take over that part.

Choice is also the issuer of the Payoneer (and Paxum) debit cards and have been around for a very long time so it's nothing to worry about.


Here is an article from November 2016 on a Romanian site that says "Payoneer that no longer wants to work with adult reason that made her different company specifically for the live web camming." Payoneer devine FirstChoicePay. Metode de plata folosite de siteurile de videochat - PISPIS.RO NEWS
it looks like they already informed the adult and cam sites etc. about the change a few months ago.

From Payoneer: "We have notified all of the platforms you work with who will transition to Firstchoice Pay regarding this change, and together, we have worked hard to ensure a smooth transition."
thank you sir
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Dan, your answers are rather vague and do not address the questions being asked here. Thus, please answer the following questions.
  1. Will existing Payoneer Cards from CHOICE bank still be valid after Feb 1, 2017?
  2. If NO to #1, when will the existing cards stop working?
  3. If NO to #1, when will new cards be sent out?
  4. If NO to #1, will existing card owners be required to reapply via each affiliate program?
  5. If NO to #1, will existing card owners have to provide new documentation?
  6. If YES to #1, will further functionality be added, such as the ability to transfer to existing credit card, to bank accounts, etc?
  7. WHO will be leading the transition, Payoneer, FirstChoicePay, or each affiliate program?
  8. Will the existing Payoneer site continue to be the login site, or will there be a new site?
  9. What happens to the documentation already stored with Payoneer? Will it be transferred to FirstChoicePay, or destroyed?

If you could answer these questions, it would be appreciated.
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login they shoot you an email. i didn't get the fuking email till i logged in. kind of like nats
It went out to customers with balance of $5 and up.
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so i need another payoneer account for mainstream and adult goes to firstchoicepay?
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"You will now have an online account for both Payoneer and Firstchoice Pay, as well as a dedicated prepaid MasterCard® for each."

So new card for first choice pay I guess, that sucks big time as I just got my new card!
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"In order to continue receiving payments, you must hold a prepaid MasterCard® issued by Choice Bank. If you were asked to order a new card (via email or upon logging in to your Payoneer account), please do so now.

If you did not receive a message to your email or within your Payoneer account, this means you already have a prepaid MasterCard® issued by Choice Bank and do not need to order a new one.
So we don't have to replace our cards. But First Choice isn't my Choice. I'm transferring future payments back to Paxum - my last choice!
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So new card for first choice pay I guess, that sucks big time as I just got my new card!
reading through all the jibber threads the current card will not be adult. firstchoice will be adult with transfers to bank and peer to peer transactions. i hope it has those epass rates
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Payoneer is not closing, but it looks like they are getting rid of adult (and cam sites/girls) and sold that part of to Choice's payment service https://www.firstchoicepay.com/
They say it's a partnership, but nothing on firstchoicepay.com suggests that's it is some kind of partnership with any company, the website, domain, etc. are fully owned by Choice Bank.

I guess after Payoneer got the big seed investment last year they needed to get rid of adult and made some deal with Choice to take over that part.

Choice is also the issuer of the Payoneer (and Paxum) debit cards and have been around for a very long time so it's nothing to worry about.
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Dan, your answers are rather vague and do not address the questions being asked here. Thus, please answer the following questions.
  1. Will existing Payoneer Cards from CHOICE bank still be valid after Feb 1, 2017?
  2. If NO to #1, when will the existing cards stop working?
  3. If NO to #1, when will new cards be sent out?
  4. If NO to #1, will existing card owners be required to reapply via each affiliate program?
  5. If NO to #1, will existing card owners have to provide new documentation?
  6. If YES to #1, will further functionality be added, such as the ability to transfer to existing credit card, to bank accounts, etc?
  7. WHO will be leading the transition, Payoneer, FirstChoicePay, or each affiliate program?
  8. Will the existing Payoneer site continue to be the login site, or will there be a new site?
  9. What happens to the documentation already stored with Payoneer? Will it be transferred to FirstChoicePay, or destroyed?

If you could answer these questions, it would be appreciated.
Bump for answers.
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There are many questions.. Please Dan reply to robwod questions to help us to know what will happen.
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I think Payoneer should answer those questions .


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Dan, your answers are rather vague and do not address the questions being asked here. Thus, please answer the following questions.
  1. Will existing Payoneer Cards from CHOICE bank still be valid after Feb 1, 2017?
  2. If

    NO
    to #1, when will the existing cards stop working?
  3. If NO to #1, when will new cards be sent out?
  4. If NO to #1, will existing card owners be required to reapply via each affiliate program?
  5. If NO to #1, will existing card owners have to provide new documentation?
  6. If YES to #1, will further functionality be added, such as the ability to transfer to existing credit card, to bank accounts, etc?
  7. WHO will be leading the transition, Payoneer, FirstChoicePay, or each affiliate program?
  8. Will the existing Payoneer site continue to be the login site, or will there be a new site?
  9. What happens to the documentation already stored with Payoneer? Will it be transferred to FirstChoicePay, or destroyed?

If you could answer these questions, it would be appreciated.
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I think thats not permanent solution from Payoneer.
they should create something like this:
if your surname ends with K-Z you have to use prepaid card issued for such surnames.
if your surname ends with A-J you have to use prepaid issued for such surnames.

If your surname starts with A-J, but ends with K-Z you should use new prepaid card for such cases.

the same with surnames starting K-Z and ending with A-J.

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So many customers will be lost. I'm already switching everything over to check. If my card stops working, I'm done.
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Old 01-12-2017, 10:49 AM   #38
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I know that many of you have received an email announcing the launch of Firstchoice Pay. I am happy to share this exciting news with you bla bla bla .
There's nothing exciting about it.
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Old 01-12-2017, 10:54 AM   #39
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In fact, after the warm reception, Danep just disappeared
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Old 01-12-2017, 10:54 AM   #40
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If it's smooth sailing where I have to do nothing on my end like adjust all my payment info with all 200+ affiliate programs I use payoneer with, good. If opposite of what I just said, well
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Old 01-12-2017, 12:19 PM   #42
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Will Choice Bank turn off all Paxum cards for give free way to new Firstchoice platform?
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Old 01-12-2017, 12:40 PM   #43
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"Exciting"... lol, sure
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You are attracted to greasy looking bad boys, that's why?
The greasy looking bad boy who actually uses his own name, and real picture, is right here. What is your question please?
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Old 01-13-2017, 01:50 PM   #49
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