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Old 01-10-2017, 05:59 PM   #1
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TrumpGate.. 35 page Intelligence paper leaked

This needed it's own topic..being Breaking News and such..

https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...legations.html

Prior to the election there was noise about the FBI having intel on Trump which was damning.. It's what Hillary Reid was talking about when he told Clapper to release it.. Whelp some of it's been leaked..


Highlights so far..

1) Trump has been getting intel from the Kremlin on Hillary and other political foes for up to 5 years.

2) The FSB claims to have enough information on Trump to blackmail him..

3) The FSB claims to have set up & or monitored Trump having perverted sexual lesions while in Moscow.

4) Trump supposedly turned down sweetened real estate/business deals. Meaning even if he turned them down he's been dealing with the Russians and lying to the public about it.

https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...legations.html

The FBI is currently working to confirm this stuff, which means we will have some interesting times now that it's been leaked so they can't hide it..
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If this stuff is true, shit just got real.
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If this stuff is true, shit just got real.
Correction.. If a single "one" of those things has any truth at all to it he's done.. He will be impeached.

If Trump's people were in fact in contact with Russian agents, that's outright treason. No if's ans or buts..
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We'll see. In case you all haven't noticed, the Oligarchs are firmly in charge. Nothing will change now.
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We'll see. In case you all haven't noticed, the Oligarchs are firmly in charge. Nothing will change now.
That's what they said about the Clinton clan
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That shit is so fake. lmao. All of the pages are covering other information. Look at page one and you can barely see it. Go to page 3 and you can clearly see it. Page 10 is a blank page covering another page of text. Page 19 I think it was you can almost make out a sig line. This is just after the mention of "Our previous company report" It happens all the way through. This fraud will be uncovered real fast as soon as someone blows up all that hidden text. Also why is everyone's last name in capital letters? Looks like a search and replace job to me.
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It must not be that big of a story because Fox News is a trusted news organization, and this is their top story linked on the front page in big bold type:


Cloud hangs over Obama return to Chicago | Fox News

Actually, I can't find anything about this story on Fox News. How could it be when they need room for Obama stories? He's the evil mastermind who saved the auto industry, saved us from recession, brought home our troops, doubled the stock market, cut unemployment in half, gave 20 million people health care and killed Osama Bin Laden. Who cares about all this Trump/Russia BS?
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It must not be that big of a story because Fox News is a trusted news organization, and this is their top story linked on the front page in big bold type:


Cloud hangs over Obama return to Chicago | Fox News

Actually, I can't find anything about this story on Fox News. How could it be when they need room for Obama stories? He's the evil mastermind who saved the auto industry, saved us from recession, brought home our troops, doubled the stock market, cut unemployment in half, gave 20 million people health care and killed Osama Bin Laden. Who cares about all this Trump/Russia BS?
Because it's a fake news story concocted by Clinton News Network.
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If they do have dirt on him, this would explain why he sucks on Putin's nutsack so hard. His lips have a deathgrip on those nuts.
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That shit is so fake. lmao. All of the pages are covering other information. Look at page one and you can barely see it. Go to page 3 and you can clearly see it. Page 10 is a blank page covering another page of text. Page 19 I think it was you can almost make out a sig line. This is just after the mention of "Our previous company report" It happens all the way through. This fraud will be uncovered real fast as soon as someone blows up all that hidden text. Also why is everyone's last name in capital letters? Looks like a cut and paste job to me.







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bronco, for an outlet to push fake news they must have an agenda.
So in this instance pro crooked channels would be pushing this.
If fake news were about obama you would get fox pushing it and crooked channels silent.
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Same with all those Americans who never visited Cuba..(on their passports)..
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bronco, for an outlet to push fake news they must have an agenda.
So in this instance pro crooked channels would be pushing this.
If fake news were about obama you would get fox pushing it and crooked channels silent.
I love it.

In your reality, real news is fake and vice versa.
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Because it's a fake news story concocted by Clinton News Network.
Amazing.. You will go on and on about conspiracies, yet "this" one you claim is fake..

How predictable comrade Broski..
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bronco, for an outlet to push fake news they must have an agenda.
So in this instance pro crooked channels would be pushing this.
If fake news were about obama you would get fox pushing it and crooked channels silent.
Amazing, it took no proof at all for you to call Clinton a criminal just the say so of some talking heads on TV.. Meanwhile here I present you actual leaked document and you claim it's fake..

They shouldn't of called you guys "the deplorables", it's should of been "the gullibles".

Sure it's fair to say this stuff hasn't been confirmed yet because it's an on going case. I can accept that, but you little Trumplets squirming and calling it fake news because you know it will destroy your guy if it's real.. That's just really sad.

If you really are a citizen of this country.. That shit in those first 2 pages should scare the fucking shit out of you that it might be real. If it doesn't, then you aren't a concerned citizen of this country..


Classified U.S. intel report: Russia gathered compromising info on Trump - CBS News

FBI Investigating Unconfirmed Claims That Trump Was Personally Compromised by the Russians - ABC News

Trump Briefing Materials Included Damaging Allegations of Russian Ties: Sources - NBC News

The only major US news network not running this story at this point is Fox News... Guess they are waiting on how to make it "Fair & Balanced"..
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Amazing.. You will go on and on about conspiracies, yet "this" one you claim is fake..

How predictable comrade Broski..
This "Company Intelligence Report" is dated prior to the election. If it was real and true then why wasn't it used by anyone? Maybe because it's only recently manufactured "intelligence" to dupe stupid people?
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This "Company Intelligence Report" (top of page 17) is dated prior to the election. If it was real and true then why wasn't it used by anyone? Maybe because it's only recently manufactured "intelligence" to dupe stupid people?
Yes that's why Hairy Reed told the FBI to release it then... because he knew they had it. This is what he was talking about. Come on now, put the wheels into gear..

They don't instantly verify this stuff it takes time. They've been working on this stuff since August, what you see in that report is the information they came up with so far.. That's the actual reports Trump & Obama were briefed on..

The 1st two pages are the summary of what involves Trump, the rest is the hacking of the DNC & RNC ect but also involves Trump.. That is the actual report Obama and Trump were briefed on but the Trump part was kept secret and hadn't been reported until the whole thing was leaked today..

You think this is fake... watch the Cabinets confirmations tomorrow and you will bet your ass this will be in it..
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Yes that's why Hairy Reed told the FBI to release it then... because he knew they had it. This is what he was talking about. Come on now, put the wheels into gear..

They don't instantly verify this stuff it takes time. They've been working on this stuff since August, what you see in that report is the information they come up with so far.. That's the actual reports Trump & Obama were briefed on..

The 1st two pages are the summary of what involves Trump, the rest is the hacking of the DNC & RNC ect.. That is the actual report Obama and Trump were briefed on but the Trump part was kept secret and hadn't been reported until the whole thing was leaked today..
Keep dreaming. It's a last ditch effort that's going to blow up in their face. Desperate times call for desperate measures and the establishment is beyond desperate. So desperate they are now manufacturing fake "intelligence" reports all the while admitting it's not even an actual intelligence report but rather a campaign dirt digging from who knows where..

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Intelligence official = Harry Reid
"intelligence" = paid campaign dirt digging from unknown/unnamed source
Both Obama and Trump were briefed on the matter because CNN forewarned they were going to dump this garbage
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Keep dreaming. It's a last ditch effort that's going to blow up in their face. Desperate times call for desperate measures and the establishment is beyond desperate. So desperate they are now manufacturing fake "intelligence" reports all the while admitting it's not even an actual intelligence report but rather a campaign dirt digging from who knows where..
Right... The entire govt, FBI and all those thousands of people involved all out to get Trump and no one's gonna tell on them.. That or Trump actually did it..

Humm.. One seems very far fetched the other not so much..
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Right... The entire govt, FBI and all those thousands of people involved all out to get Trump and no one's gonna tell on them.. That or Trump actually did it..

Humm.. One seems very far fetched the other not so much..
What entire government? There's Harry Reid and CNN. That's it..
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Correction.. If a single "one" of those things has any truth at all to it he's done.. He will be impeached.

If Trump's people were in fact in contact with Russian agents, that's outright treason. No if's ans or buts..
How does what you posted, any of it constitute treason? Educate me/us.
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I love it.

In your reality, real news is fake and vice versa.
Nope, you got my point completely wrong.
My point was that anti trump news are pushed by crooked channels, anti clinton news are pushed by anti crooked channels.
That is why it happens that certain channels do not push certain news.

Like your favorite channels did not push anything about crooked lining her own pockets by making various plays using her office power. THAT ALONE was more crooked than whatever trumo did (shady university etc).

Yet it had literally no play time in comparison to trump's things.
Even the smallest thing about Trump got played much more than huge thing about crooked.

That is how dishonest and agenda pushing media work.

Nothing to do with "my reality" (which you got wrong, by the way, as usual).

And let me remind that your reality is actually in trouble. You are so easily manipulated and so weak minded that you actually believe that your family is in danger now because of Trump. Just WOW. Fear mongering by libby news and he is scared about his family
And such a person is lecturing me about my reality...
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Same with all those Americans who never visited Cuba..(on their passports)..
How is it the same?
Does EU have the same relaxed laws "if you wish, kind foreigner, we may not stamp your passport"?
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How does what you posted, any of it constitute treason? Educate me/us.
If Trump was in contact with the Kremlin getting and giving information about political candidates while running for the POTUS? You don't understand how that would be treason?

Did you read any of this report?
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If Trump was in contact with the Kremlin getting and giving information about political candidates while running for the POTUS? You don't understand how that would be treason?

Did you read any of this report?
Of course I have read the report. No I do not understand how that constitutes Treason?
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Trump is the only thing preventing president pence. Be careful what you wish for
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Of course I have read the report. No I do not understand how that constitutes Treason?
He is adding and abetting a govt which was hacking our govt/political parties at the time and is also considered foe of ours. He then publicly called on Russia to hack Hillary...

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"Russia, if you're listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing” from emails that Hillary Clinton turned over to the State Department, Trump said in a lengthy press conference in Doral, Fla. “I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press. Let’s see if that happens. That will be next. Yes, sir.”

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Trump was being fed intel gained by hacking/wire taps and Trump was giving them who knows what info in trade. It wasn't a one way street, the Russians weren't just giving Trump intel with nothing in return..

Now we know why Trump is denying all the hacking took place, because he's fucked when it comes out. He was trying to get his cult to believe it's all BS..
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All the damaging information is trickling out now...drip drip drip.
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Of course I have read the report. No I do not understand how that constitutes Treason?
Surely you must realize if a presidential candidate colludes with Russian intelligence agencies in order to harm his opponent and win the presidential election that this is a terrible crime.
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bronco said ANYBODY, Pence or dog the bounty hunter would be better.
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Trump is the only thing preventing president pence. Be careful what you wish for
Very true words. Trump makes deals and gets things done. Like him or not, he has built a big business doing just that. There is a chance he will work with Democrats in order to get things done and he has already spoken out against his party on some of the things they want to do. Pence is a hardliner and a crazy person who likely will have zero interest in doing anything that doesn't directly help the Republican party.
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This fraud will be uncovered real fast as soon as someone blows up all that hidden text.
If you examine that carefully, you will see that what you are calling hidden text is actually the next page, you can even see the highlighting. I have had that happen when taking pictures of a document with a camera, you end up being able to see what is underneath if the paper is thin enough and the light is right.

But that is all you are seeing there from what I can tell.

Here are pages 10 and 11 laid alongside each other. You can see that they have the same number of paragraphs, the same spacing, etc. It is like that throughout the document.



This is the same thing but with the contrast increased on page 10 to make what you are seeing clearer:




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I said it several weeks ago that the Dems and the media will keep ramping this up until Obama leaves office hoping the beans are spilt on the DNC leaker and look what's happening. With only 10 days remaining what else will they try?
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He is adding and abetting a govt which was hacking our govt/political parties at the time and is also considered foe of ours.



Trump was being fed intel gained by hacking/wire taps and Trump was giving them who knows what info in trade. He then publicly called on Russia to hack Hillary...
Wow what a stretch. The report, if true, or partially true, is extremely harmful to the man providing there is proof of the allegations, but Treason, I think not.
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Old 01-10-2017, 07:50 PM   #40
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If you examine that carefully, you will see that what you are calling hidden text is actually the next page, oyu can even see the higlighting. I have had that happen when takeing pictures of a document with a camera, you end up being able to see what is underneath of the paper is thin enough and the light is right.

But that is all you are seeing there from what I can tell.

Here are pages 10 and 11 laid alongside each other. You can see that they have the same number of paragraphs, the same spacing, etc. It is like that throughout the document.



This is the same thing but with the contrast increased on page 10 to make what you are seeing clearer:




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Very true words. Trump makes deals and gets things done. Like him or not, he has built a big business doing just that. There is a chance he will work with Democrats in order to get things done and he has already spoken out against his party on some of the things they want to do. Pence is a hardliner and a crazy person who likely will have zero interest in doing anything that doesn't directly help the Republican party.
Both Trump or Pence are worst case scenarios for the US.. Both are insane in their own ways...
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Wow what a stretch. The report, if true, or partially true, is extremely harmful to the man providing there is proof of the allegations, but Treason, I think not.
It wouldn't have to be classified as treason for an impeachment.

Whether it would be treason or not would depend on what was true and what exactly happened. For example, if he directly took information from Russian hackers and used that to hurt Clinton, I think that might be considered treason.
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Oh look.. FoxNews finally caught up with their white washed report!!

Report: Intel officials informed Trump of claims Russia has compromising info | Fox News
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May be right but it doesn't matter. It's all BS.
Amazing you already know it's all BS.. Your mind is already made up with no proof it's BS..

You must have a Trump secret decoder ring!
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It wouldn't have to be classified as treason for an impeachment.

Whether it would be treason or not would depend on what was true and what exactly happened. For example, if he directly took information from Russian hackers and used that to hurt Clinton, I think that might be considered treason.
Isn't treason the one you commit against your own country?

Like Crooked saying yes to illegals (= saying yes to foreigners breaking your country laws)?
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Surely you must realize if a presidential candidate colludes with Russian intelligence agencies in order to harm his opponent and win the presidential election that this is a terrible crime.
I am not an attorney, but I would think, at the least, there should be one or more laws violated, if your statement, as stated in its entirety, is proven, but I will restate I am not an attorney.
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Wow what a stretch. The report, if true, or partially true, is extremely harmful to the man providing there is proof of the allegations, but Treason, I think not.
Conspiring with another state to win a political election is pretty serious stuff. Would they call it treason being he's the POTUS? My guess is no they would sugar coat it as much as possible but this if it pans out to be true is serious shit. Trump and those around him will be in for some serious issues if this all pans out.

I wouldn't be surprised if Trump doesn't step down citing some mysterious illness or issue. Things will happen behind closed doors over this that's for sure. I bet there are reporters everywhere as well as all those congressmen who were left in the dark are reading these papers just as we are.. There will be a lot of answers demanded.

BTW Congress is already working on a few veto proof items against Russia. They want more sanctions and will make it so Trump can't say Crimea is now officially Russia.. They will pass both of these with veto proof majorities, meaning Trump can't do anything about it.
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It wouldn't have to be classified as treason for an impeachment.

Whether it would be treason or not would depend on what was true and what exactly happened. For example, if he directly took information from Russian hackers and used that to hurt Clinton, I think that might be considered treason.
Everything you just stated I knew and concur with, but doubt that it falls under Treason. I think the exchange of political information is stretching it to be considered a Treasonous act.
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Apparently Buzzfeed was the first to actually publish the memos.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/kenbensinge...6o2#.pwP2mOPmq

But in there they state:

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The documents have circulated for months and acquired a kind of legendary status among journalists, lawmakers, and intelligence officials who have seen them. Mother Jones writer David Corn referred to the documents in a late October column. Harry Reid spokesman Adam Jentleson tweeted Tuesday that the former Senate Democratic leader had seen the documents before writing a public letter to FBI Director James Comey about Trump’s ties to Russia. And CNN reported Tuesday that Arizona Republican John McCain gave a “full copy” of the memos to Comey on Dec. 9, but that the FBI already had copies of many of the memos.
(The October Mother Jones column mentioned in there is at: A Veteran Spy Has Given the FBI Information Alleging a Russian Operation to Cultivate Donald Trump | Mother Jones)

So, these papers have been floating around for a while and apparently nobody has been able to verify them, so whether they are real info or bullshit is definitely yet to be seen.

The articles I have read sourced them to an ex MI6 agent but they look more like notes that you would see from an investigative reporter although the document structure seems a little strange. It does not strike me as an "official" format, meaning from some government agency. There are usually more tells in real government intelligence papers but a journalist would probably not follow a standard labeling structure like these do.

We will see what happens I guess.

edited in: I saw after the fact that the ex MI6 agent was hired to do opposition research. Still the document structure seems fishy. The whole "Company Intelligence Report" stuff especially.

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