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Old 01-10-2017, 07:10 PM   #51
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Trump is the only thing preventing president pence. Be careful what you wish for
You are assuming Pence would be unscathed by this. Pence is part of the "Trump Admin". If Trump was getting this intel Pence would know it was coming from somewhere. This wasn't just implicating Trump but also key figures in his admin. It would be really hard for Pence to play dumb about all this..

Maybe it will be President Ryan...
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Isn't treason the one you commit against your own country?

Like Crooked saying yes to illegals (= saying yes to foreigners breaking your country laws)?
The basic definition is that a person is either violating their allegiance to a country or they are trying to overthrow the government of the country. It can also mean doing something that directly harms the country.

I'm not sure Clinton's immigration policies would count as treason, but then again, I'm no lawyer.
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Tomorrow's press conference by Trump should be an interesting shit-show of more lies deflections.
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Correction.. If a single "one" of those things has any truth at all to it he's done.. He will be impeached.

If Trump's people were in fact in contact with Russian agents, that's outright treason. No if's ans or buts..
#impeach
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Perhaps we will find out that Trump's spray tan isn't actually a spray tan, but is, in fact, the stain left from having a dozen Russian hookers pee on him.
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Same with all those Americans who never visited Cuba..(on their passports)..
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Yes, lol. My mother visited Cuba years ago when it was "impossible".
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Apparently Buzzfeed was the first to actually publish the memos.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/kenbensinge...6o2#.pwP2mOPmq

But in there they state:



(The October Mother Jones column mentioned in there is at: A Veteran Spy Has Given the FBI Information Alleging a Russian Operation to Cultivate Donald Trump | Mother Jones)

So, these papers have been floating around for a while and apparently nobody has been able to verify them, so whether they are real info or bullshit is definitely yet to be seen.

The articles I have read sourced them to an ex MI6 agent but they look more like notes that you would see from an investigative reporter although the document structure seems a little strange. It does not strike me as an "official" format, meaning from some government agency. There are usually more tells in real government intelligence papers but a journalist would probably not follow a standard labeling structure like these do.

We will see what happens I guess.

edited in: I saw after the fact that the ex MI6 agent was hired to do opposition research. Still the document structure seems fishy. The whole "Company Intelligence Report" stuff especially.

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Additional summary.

He works for the "company" and he created this report. The republican opposition said no thank you because it's likely made up nonsense. Democrats didn't care as long as it helped and most likely paid him to start shopping it around to numerous new agencies and none of them would touch it until now.. Now we know the truth behind why Reid was pushing for Trump/Russia ties investigation and that it's all based on this paid for "company intelligence report" The FBI has already investigated and found no link.... Suckers getting suckered by the media again.
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I finally read through the entire thing.. The last page is rather interesting. It claims Trump's team was aware of the Clinton hacking and paid for much of it.

There is so much stuff in that report that is fucking crazy. If even a 10th of it is proven true there is no fucking way the election results should stand.
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Trump is the only thing preventing president pence. Be careful what you wish for
The Trump / Pence administration has obviously been utterly compromise. Pence cannot become President; He was elected to VP under false pretenses.
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All the damaging information is trickling out now...drip drip drip.
And it will continue to drip drip drip until he is impeached.

You just KNOW there is SO MUCH MORE we don't know.
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Very true words. Trump makes deals and gets things done. Like him or not, he has built a big business doing just that. There is a chance he will work with Democrats in order to get things done and he has already spoken out against his party on some of the things they want to do. Pence is a hardliner and a crazy person who likely will have zero interest in doing anything that doesn't directly help the Republican party.
He's built a business of fucking people. Trump is nothing but fraud all around.

We can start with Trump University. Then we can discuss multiple condo projects that people paid millions for but the condos were never built. Then we can talk about the long list of contractors that haven't gotten paid, including the ones that filed a lien today.
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It wouldn't have to be classified as treason for an impeachment.

Whether it would be treason or not would depend on what was true and what exactly happened. For example, if he directly took information from Russian hackers and used that to hurt Clinton, I think that might be considered treason.
We impeached President Clinton for a small lie made under oath. You can just imagine how this will go over.
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He's built a business of fucking people. Trump is nothing but fraud all around.

We can start with Trump University. Then we can discuss multiple condo projects that people paid millions for but the condos were never built. Then we can talk about the long list of contractors that haven't gotten paid, including the ones that filed a lien today.
I'm well aware Trump is no saint, but if the choice is between the guy who has fucked a bunch of people in order to make a bunch of money and the guy who thinks you can use electroshock therapy to make gay people straight, I'll take the scumbag businessman over the crazy person.
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Yes, lol. My mother visited Cuba years ago when it was "impossible".
Yea I mean really, people doing these types of things have the connections to not go through customs. They aren't flying into an airport on an airliner, they are flying on private jets and off boarding at private sections of an airport or even a small airport.

Not to mention if they met on a plane and he never got off he doesn't even need to see customs.. There are lots of ways around stamps on passports, specially for very well off/connected people.

The FBI would laugh at him if he tried to use that defense. Might work on the simpletons but not anyone with half a brain..
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I'm well aware Trump is no saint, but if the choice is between the guy who has fucked a bunch of people in order to make a bunch of money and the guy who thinks you can use electroshock therapy to make gay people straight, I'll take the scumbag businessman over the crazy person.
Pence would have to be impeached too. Everyone at the top levels of the Trump administration are guilty. Pence is the number two man there - of course he knew.
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I'm well aware Trump is no saint, but if the choice is between the guy who has fucked a bunch of people in order to make a bunch of money and the guy who thinks you can use electroshock therapy to make gay people straight, I'll take the scumbag businessman over the crazy person.
You don't understand.. If this stuff ends is legit, neither Trump or Pence will be POTUS.. Pence will be impeached right with Trump if it comes to that. It would go to Ryan if we end up down that road, the Trump admin would be completely removed if the things in that document can be proven.
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Yea I mean really, people doing these types of things have the connections to not go through customs. They aren't flying into an airport on an airliner, they are flying on private jets and off boarding at private sections of an airport or even a small airport.

Not to mention if they met on a plane and he never got off he doesn't even need to see customs.. There are lots of ways around stamps on passports, specially for very well off/connected people.

The FBI would laugh at him if he tried to use that defense. Might work on the simpletons but not anyone with half a brain..
Sorry, but saying "I didn't get my passport stamped" isn't a defense.
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Apparently Buzzfeed was the first to actually publish the memos.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/kenbensinge...6o2#.pwP2mOPmq

But in there they state:



(The October Mother Jones column mentioned in there is at: A Veteran Spy Has Given the FBI Information Alleging a Russian Operation to Cultivate Donald Trump | Mother Jones)

So, these papers have been floating around for a while and apparently nobody has been able to verify them, so whether they are real info or bullshit is definitely yet to be seen.

The articles I have read sourced them to an ex MI6 agent but they look more like notes that you would see from an investigative reporter although the document structure seems a little strange. It does not strike me as an "official" format, meaning from some government agency. There are usually more tells in real government intelligence papers but a journalist would probably not follow a standard labeling structure like these do.

We will see what happens I guess.

edited in: I saw after the fact that the ex MI6 agent was hired to do opposition research. Still the document structure seems fishy. The whole "Company Intelligence Report" stuff especially.

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Since you mentioned the taking a picture thing it actually makes this story even more hilarious. The person who created the docs is so stuck on him being an ex-spy that he takes pictures of his own documents.. Just like they do in the movies. As if he broke into some secret facility had to quickly snap some pictures and steal the information contained on the documents. And then he went out shopping this information around. This shit show couldn't get any better.. lmao
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Since you mentioned the taking a picture thing it actually makes this story even more hilarious. The person who created the docs is so stuck on him being an ex-spy that he takes pictures of his own documents.. Just like they do in the movies. As if he broke into some secret facility had to quickly snap some pictures and steal the information contained on the documents. And then he went out shopping this information around. This shit show couldn't get any better.. lmao
Keep making stuff up. LOL.

We do not know who released these documents, or where they came from. Most likely the copy we are reading was not the original copy from the original source.
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dont see anything about this on the news.
i do see however an additional 300 pages of hilary, where they now have proof she was sending classified emails outside
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Keep making stuff up. LOL.

We do not know who released these documents, or where they came from. Most likely the copy we are reading was not the original copy from the original source.
We do know. "Ex-spy" has been shopping them for months. What do you think buzzfeed doesn't have a copier?
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Since you mentioned the taking a picture thing it actually makes this story even more hilarious. The person who created the docs is so stuck on him being an ex-spy that he takes pictures of his own documents.. Just like they do in the movies. As if he broke into some secret facility had to quickly snap some pictures and steal the information contained on the documents. And then he went out shopping this information around. This shit show couldn't get any better.. lmao
Dude, you are trying too hard.. Isn't the night shift about done in the Putin troll compound? Shouldn't your day shift replacements be showing up about now?
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Lots of important questions for Trump to answer at his first big press conference tomorrow Imagine that ;)
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dont see anything about this on the news.
i do see however an additional 300 pages of hilary, where they now have proof she was sending classified emails outside
It's all over the news.. I linked to at least 1 story from every major US news network in this topic.
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I am a certified paid Putin troll but the checks haven't been coming in on time lately. I am seriously considering looking for another paid shill job. Anybody know any good openings?





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We do know. "Ex-spy" has been shopping them for months. What do you think buzzfeed doesn't have a copier?
That seems to be the original source. There seems to be multiple copies floating around the FBI and members of Congress. But we still do not know who put that copy online.

So your argument is kind of pointless.
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So Trump is being blackmailed by the Russian government and is also in debt to the Russian mob.
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First press conference since July of last year. They better pin him to the wall and not let up.
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That seems to be the original source. There seems to be multiple copies floating around the FBI and members of Congress. But we still do not know who put that copy online.

So your argument is kind of pointless.
No it's not. Who this day and age is going to take pictures of 35 documents? The only thing I can come up with is some old "Spy" living in a spy novel that of which we are now reading.

He shopped it around a lot. His identity will be revealed, no doubt. I bet he's old as fuck and probably hasn't left his retirement home in decades.
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No, he doesn't ... Steve Rupe is a trumpster ....
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“I imagine a lot more will come out, and much will be nothing and perhaps some of it will be meaningful, and perhaps even devastating,” says Skinner, who now works for the Soufan Group, an intelligence consultancy. But he warns that raw intelligence—information which hasn’t been corroborated or confirmed—like this shouldn’t be released to the public, and is impossible to assess on its own. “One of the reasons why the intelligence community doesn’t release raw or even finished intelligence, to say nothing of a privately funded, untrained…source like in this case, is that people would freak out with the day-to-day drip that might not be anything once it’s placed in context and vetted with multiple sources.”

With its sources redacted and none of the “confidence markings” intelligence agencies use to distinguish which claims are most credible, the document is tough to parse, Tait says.

“The key to usable HUMINT is distinguishing the real, highly placed sources from the bullshitting wannabes who pretend they’re highly placed sources by making shit up that fits the public facts,” says Tait. “In this case, the doc gives no indication that the company has done work to rigorously separate the two…and consequently it’s really hard to tell whether any of the info is actually true, or just a very exciting and expensively produced fan-fiction novel.”

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We impeached President Clinton for a small lie made under oath. You can just imagine how this will go over.
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Why? Has he been stung by a jellyfish?
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That will be the excuse he gives tomorrow during the press conference, yes.
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No, he doesn't ... Steve Rupe is a trumpster ....
I personally think the President Elect is nothing more than a "con man" that should be behind bars and is an immature, disgusting human being. So you, could not be more wrong, or more incompetent in your judgement of people.
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No it's not. Who this day and age is going to take pictures of 35 documents? The only thing I can come up with is some old "Spy" living in a spy novel that of which we are now reading.

He shopped it around a lot. His identity will be revealed, no doubt. I bet he's old as fuck and probably hasn't left his retirement home in decades.
Keep trying.

Clearly who ever posted the documents didn't have them for long and couldn't take them some place to have them copied. Yes, Buzzfeed has copiers but we have no idea if these documents were ever at the Buzzfeed office.

It's also possible the original source or someone in the CIA or FBI wanted to make it look like these documents were "stolen".
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“I imagine a lot more will come out, and much will be nothing and perhaps some of it will be meaningful, and perhaps even devastating,” says Skinner, who now works for the Soufan Group, an intelligence consultancy. But he warns that raw intelligence—information which hasn’t been corroborated or confirmed—like this shouldn’t be released to the public, and is impossible to assess on its own. “One of the reasons why the intelligence community doesn’t release raw or even finished intelligence, to say nothing of a privately funded, untrained…source like in this case, is that people would freak out with the day-to-day drip that might not be anything once it’s placed in context and vetted with multiple sources.”

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Under normal circumstances, yes. But in a matter of days Trump will be in a position to silence this investigation and we cannot allow that. This is why the cat was released out of the bag. Now the public knows.

Earlier today Trump's approval rating was 42%. I wonder what it will be next week.
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Just saw that 4Chan is now saying the peeing part of it is made up and is actually fan fiction that someone mistook for real intelligence.

If true, that is one fine piece of trolling.
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Congratz to who ever wins because of this news..
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Just saw that 4Chan is now saying the peeing part of it is made up and is actually fan fiction that someone mistook for real intelligence.

If true, that is one fine piece of trolling.

Mr Troll..

"Mom come quick my fan fiction got puplished by the CIA."

"I made it from home alone 2 hotel which I thought about because trump is in the movie. added piss fetishism, and the Indonesian kgb story"
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3) The FSB claims to have set up & or monitored Trump having perverted sexual lesions while in Moscow.

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Lol, so now the FSB knows that Trump has genital warts? I think you meant "liaisons", not lesions.

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