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Old 01-10-2017, 06:43 AM   #1
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Why do people take celebrity deaths so personally ??

I keep reading or hearing people say 2016 was a horrific year. You ask why and then they rhyme off a few celebrity names who happened to pass that year. Then you ask "oh right so that's why 2016 was personally a bad year for YOU?"

Forgetting Trump for a minute (we know everyone has views on that and how that took over 2016 for the large part) but people seem to genuinely base a good or bad year for them personally on what fucking celebs died.

Feels like half my family have serious health issues just now, and thankfully all got through 2016, but this year is gonna be very testing get for the whole family and we will see who comes through it or not. Gonna be a tough year. Very tough.

I don't give a fuck if Prince died. I didn't know him and he sure as fuck didn't know me.



I think we need to sometimes step away from the celeb world and worry more about our own family and friends first.
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Old 01-10-2017, 06:52 AM   #2
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people seem to genuinely base a good or bad year for them personally on what fucking celebs died.
I don't know anyone that seriously does that.

The end of the year retrospective is always prompted my the media, and in turn people talk about who died that year, the main events of the year, etc.

Prince, George Michael, David Bowie, Carrie Fisher (Pincess Leia), Kenny Baker (R2-D2) and others dying last year is just a reminder of our generations mortality.

I have no family but for my son, for which I'm so grateful, so I can't relate to you watching your family go through health issues, I'm sorry to hear that and I hope it turns out well.

We're all on our way out, it's just a matter of time let's enjoy life!
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These deaths feel so personal because they resonate with us on a deeper, psychological level. We may grieve celebrities because our dream was to emulate their career path or because a celebrity death can also remind us of our mortality.
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Old 01-10-2017, 06:58 AM   #4
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I don't know anyone like that.
It was a convo i had with a few people and in saying how shitty 2016 was for them i asked why and the response I got (from 2 females) was well David Bowie, George Michael etc all died.

I'm like riiiiiiiight but what about YOUR year ??
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people are just so desperate to try and feel like celebrities are a part of their lives.
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there are deaths every year, but the point is that 2016 and already 2017 has had an increase of deaths in well known characters or celebrities.

Although, I asked the same question in a thread of mine the other day. I was asking, is it an increase in deaths, or just in known persons. Still being an average of deaths?

This year alone, There was a 200% increase of deaths on the 1st of January
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people are just so desperate to try and feel like celebrities are a part of their lives.
Kinda pathetic when you think about it.

If only they knew none of those same celebs gave a shit about them...
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I keep reading or hearing people say 2016 was a horrific year. You ask why and then they rhyme off a few celebrity names who happened to pass that year. Then you ask "oh right so that's why 2016 was personally a bad year for YOU?"

Forgetting Trump for a minute (we know everyone has views on that and how that took over 2016 for the large part) but people seem to genuinely base a good or bad year for them personally on what fucking celebs died.

Feels like half my family have serious health issues just now, and thankfully all got through 2016, but this year is gonna be very testing get for the whole family and we will see who comes through it or not. Gonna be a tough year. Very tough.

I don't give a fuck if Prince died. I didn't know him and he sure as fuck didn't know me.



I think we need to sometimes step away from the celeb world and worry more about our own family and friends first.
Because when a famous actor or musician dies you will never hear or see new work of theirs again.. If you happen to like their work, it's a loss..

I liked Prince's purple rain album but not much after that, so him dying wasn't a big deal but still sucked a bit.

Now on the other hand back when Kurt Cobain died, that was a bigger loss to me because he was in his prime and I enjoyed all of his music and expected more.
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Kinda pathetic when you think about it.

If only they knew none of those same celebs gave a shit about them...
Kinda pathetic you are so worried about what others think..
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people are just so desperate to try and feel like celebrities are a part of their lives.
Yeah some old people are lonely and don't have anyone, they just want to feel a part of the world around them, feel alive, maybe even feel valued a little bit.
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It's simple. The art performed by actors and singers make us happy, or sad, and move us in all kinds of ways. We fall in love with the characters they portray or the music they create. When they die, some people feel that loss as if it was a loss from their own family.

This feeling is made worse when the loss was especially tragic (too young, accidental, etc), or when its really really fucked up such as the death of Debbie Renynolds death right after her own daughter's death.

People cry over the death of a character in a movie or TV show, so why not the actor too?

It's an interesting phenomena that I'll never understand.
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It's just a passing RIP as far as I am concerned. Celebrity never impressed me -- however -- some that die I respect their talent and what they gave my world. But I am not depressed or shedding tears usually by celebrity deaths ... Life goes on until it stops -- make the most of it.
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sad but true...
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Kinda pathetic you are so worried about what others think..
Who says I'm worried?

So when you are out with friends you don't care, bother, or listen to what they think ?
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Kinda pathetic you are so worried about what others think..
i see him merely curious, you see him "si worried". Illustrates how differently we reason. No syrprise you are so out of touch with how things actually are, you can not read as basic thing as this.
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I think a lot of people grow up watching these guys on tv idolizing them looking up to them enjoying them etc and feel close to them in a way.
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Why do people take celebrity deaths so personally ??
Not all people for sure. I don't give a shit about celebrities. If one dies: say regular "RIP" and move on - I have a zero care about all of them. Course(!) if I didn't know them personally: if they were not my friends and relatives. Everybody else is free to die when he/she want - they are just nothing in my life.
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I think a lot of people grow up watching these guys on tv idolizing them looking up to them enjoying them etc and feel close to them in a way.
I remember when Florence Henderson died last year I felt it a little. I watched her alone everyday growing up and saw what a Mom was like. It was more about taking me back to that time in my life watching her than her as an actual person. Weird I just remembered that.
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I typically don't care about the vast majority of celeb deaths - but a few over the years depressed me because I enjoyed their work and their artistry left a lasting impact on me.

Robin Williams was one.

Freddie Mercury another.

Brad Delp (Boston).
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I typically don't care about the vast majority of celeb deaths - but a few over the years depressed me because I enjoyed their work and their artistry left a lasting impact on me.

Robin Williams was one.

Freddie Mercury another.

Brad Delp (Boston).
Same, i wish if i was born earlier so i could attend queen concert, but i was only 5 when Freddie was dead already.
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I dug Prince, George Michael, Bowie etc... Don't think it's a oh my God my best friend just died but more of damn I been listening to that shit for decades and music always reminds ya of good or bad times as there's a jam out there for any situation, so more of damn everyone from my younger years is dying off so guess I'll be gone soon too, Happy New Year!

I'm not a big facebook guy due to watching family/friends post what they eat for lunch, post how thankful they are for their spouse, repost uplifting photos, repost and you'll find money, etc... Nobody gives a shit about 99% of the stuff the average facebook tard posts. Quality over quantity rule should be applied cause if you're not a hot chick posting selfies I don't pay too much attention.
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Celeb deaths don't bother me too much. I was a fan of Bowie, George Michaels, Prince.... Great, fire up Apple Music and listen to their songs and move on.
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I was bummed when Jerry Garcia died but strangely I was more upset when Brent Mydland died five years earlier. Not sure why. Getting more callous as I age, I guess.
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It reminds them how they to will someday die and cease to exist.

We are all doomed to nothingness.

Your mind dies along with your physical body.
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Exactly.

In saying that, i'll be happy when Adele's time is up and i won't have to be subjected to her "music" again... Not through choice anyway.
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People associate music, movies theatre etc. with certain points in their life. When someone dies then that affects the good memory. Also if you have a celebrity that consistently puts out good stuff - we feel loss as to what could have been if they survived.
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Who says I'm worried?

So when you are out with friends you don't care, bother, or listen to what they think ?
that's not what you are doing here though. You are ridiculing them for caring for people who have entertained them in some form or another. Do you have to know people to enjoy them as an entertainer? Do you have to know them to empathize that they have passed?

I am not a fan of the pedestal that people create for celebrities either, especially ones who haven't done anything to earn it, but I can still empathize if something bad happens to them. I would hope you would be able to as well.

but yeah, i am tired of people who claim 2016 was an exceptionally bad year because of that, that doesn't make sense at all.
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Exactly.

In saying that, i'll be happy when Adele's time is up and i won't have to be subjected to her "music" again... Not through choice anyway.
You could also just choose to not listen to her music. Is someone tying you down and forcing it on you?
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You could also just choose to not listen to her music. Is someone tying you down and forcing it on you?
I played her on repeat at Scott's New Years party, does that count? I also broke his snowman and dropped his wife but that's for another time.
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that's not what you are doing here though. You are ridiculing them for caring for people who have entertained them in some form or another. Do you have to know people to enjoy them as an entertainer? Do you have to know them to empathize that they have passed?

I am not a fan of the pedestal that people create for celebrities either, especially ones who haven't done anything to earn it, but I can still empathize if something bad happens to them. I would hope you would be able to as well.

but yeah, i am tired of people who claim 2016 was an exceptionally bad year because of that, that doesn't make sense at all.
The start of that post looked like you were attacking me claiming i was ridiculing people (which i wasn't), but then by then end of the post you seemed to agree with me with the original point that a bad year on a PERSONAL level shouldn't be judged on what fucking celebs died...


For the record, being a Star Wars fan n' all i was gutted when Carrie Fisher died. But that wouldn't be a reason for me to claim 2016 was a bad year for me...
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You could also just choose to not listen to her music. Is someone tying you down and forcing it on you?
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The bitch... j/k
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I am not a fan of the pedestal that people create for celebrities either, especially ones who haven't done anything to earn it, but I can still empathize if something bad happens to them. I would hope you would be able to as well.
I empathize with the friends & family of whoever dies, celebrities included... feeling any personal loss even if I'm a huge fan though? Not even a little bit. As I've got older I've realised that doesn't make me 'right' and them 'wrong' or vice versa, it just makes me different to someone who gets personally upset. I still can't fathom why someone would be personally emotionally hurt because a celeb they liked died, but these days I kinda give about as much of a fuck about the reasoning, as I do when the celeb dies.

I'm oddly pleased in a way though, I like the fact we aren't all exactly the same, and don't have the same emotions for the same specific things. I still roll my eyes of course when I read on facebook that somebody cried because george michael died, that's just the cunt in me I suppose.
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Exactly.

In saying that, i'll be happy when Adele's time is up and i won't have to be subjected to her "music" again... Not through choice anyway.
Yeah but she's a Yidette, so she ain't all bad
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Old 01-11-2017, 09:29 PM   #41
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Old 01-12-2017, 06:37 AM   #42
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people are just so desperate to try and feel like celebrities are a part of their lives.
Exactly. I hate it when I see that a celebrity died and some of my friends on Facebook (who never actually cared about them) start to post "RIP xy, you'll be missed" or "why did you have to leave us" without even knowing who the person actually was. Society is fucked up, thanks to social media...
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It's simple. The art performed by actors and singers make us happy, or sad, and move us in all kinds of ways. We fall in love with the characters they portray or the music they create. When they die, some people feel that loss as if it was a loss from their own family.

This feeling is made worse when the loss was especially tragic (too young, accidental, etc), or when its really really fucked up such as the death of Debbie Renynolds death right after her own daughter's death.

People cry over the death of a character in a movie or TV show, so why not the actor too?

It's an interesting phenomena that I'll never understand.
best post in thread.

the thing that makes us human is our ability to imagine. celebs & disney all sell their talents in this space, & cash big checks. ergo its logical that people create a part of their lives around their entertainments, that bring joy. & the death of a celeb that resides in that happy space in the imagination can be tough to deal with.

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most people are only/always thinking about themselves. that's why.
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