AlexTmz

Hello!
some time ago I checked my account and see that have more 100$ pending for payment long time, then I contacted MARK in icq to get payment, he dont answer me anything
And today I see that my account INACTIVE!!!
I make with that sponsor more 50.000$
so bad business!

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ICQ #: 333-147-410 (Mark)

MARK, if you read gfy, PAY ME MY MONEY!!!

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AlexTmz

and now I see in NEWS what he write

12/02/16 - Inactive Affiliates
Affiliates with no new joins in past 30 days will be removed in the program, effective immediately.

So he deleted my account with more 100$
and my partner account with 39.09$

its best solution

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cams2chat

I have the same problem from other perspective. I have been paying affiliates and they virtually get no joins just rebills they steal from each other. Paid out tens of thousands same deal but it is wearing thin. See type ins move to another affiliate and it aint right.

Get some joins is best idea

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wtf are you talking about? that if you are not sending new joins but you are sending rebills you have to be banned? are you fucking real? that is a pure thievery, if you have 50/50 for life, it is for life, doesnt matter how much new sales are you sending! the same with asiamoviepass, if that is true, wow what a pure thievery on affiliates

edit: i see i am this year there 0:9521, lol. just lol

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cams2chat

and if the program closes because nobody sends joins? I think it has to be both not just one sided.

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jscott

If you take the time to close affiliate accounts because of no joins, that means you obviously have the time to research that affiliates traffic, if he's sending legit traffic.

So just closing an account based on no joins, you are full blown scammer and times are hard, looking for ways to add a buck to your pocket while ripping off others.

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Words of the wise right here!

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I have $80 there and no new joins for a while but im not banned

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About fucking right you are!!
This kind of bullshit from sponsors towards affiliates has to stop. Battling your own affiliates is a sign of weak management.

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That is not the fucking problem of the fucking affiliate.
If there's an affiliate who brings in members who rebill a lot that is the very best kind of affiliate.
For those motherfuckers who have problems with the revenue sharing: just go for the PPS and do not offer revshare. It is So Fucking Simple.

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Wonder if he is interested in my asian content packages then lol

babeterminal

wow i am shocked was expecting the usual from you "they are good people"

pull links long ago

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Matyko

LOL I don't have a 'usual message' I used to post in cases like this. There are some business partners of mine who I trust and make money with, and from time to time they appear here on gfy for various reasons. If there's a company I am getting paid by like clockwork and someone is asking in a thread if they pay: I post that they pay. If I think they are good people than I say that too. I never ever said 'good people' to random ppl / companies and paying like clockwork does not mean to me that they are good people.

Fucking around with the small affiliates always makes me upset and angry.. This is a perfect example of doing shit business. They can close the affiliate system by not accepting any more new affils [Madcheddar does this for example] , but they should treat the existing ones with respect.

On top of all of this I am not afraid to say that those who SERIOUSLY post in this new signup vs rebill topic saying rebills worth less than new signups: that is evil and god damn retarded. Affiliate programs always have the chance to change the rules of PPS [or kill it completely] and same with revshare... But complaining of the rules/policy THEY MADE and/or changing the rules for existing players [like taking their rebills] is a super-fucking-huge NO-NO!

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ZENRA

Posted this elsewhere, but AMP (and other English paysites like it) are a pretty hot topic now (and not in a very good way) amongst AV studios.

Edit: not sure if this is exactly related to their affiliate issue, but it could be.

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you sound like affiliate program owner.

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I wrote a thread today about rebills;( https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...h-rebills.html it sucks if they do steal rebills, i dont say they do but I have my doubts!

druid66

don't know what issue is with AMP but as for me Mark always paid on time.
only issue last times i've noticed was unable to get payment by paxum that's all.
hope it's all will be resolved and explained, AMP was always solid sponsor for me and i got some site's devoted only for them.
good luck guys.

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jscott

Same here, that's why if this is for real, it'd be a total surprise

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JuicyBunny

Just got paid today. As usual.

Sales go up when programs become leaner. IMO. Our best sellers are programs who are never on the boards and DMCA the tubes and filelockers.

Hopefully all is well in AMP Land.

ZENRA

I don't think you'd be sending (or able to send) DMCA's if you're in their position. Not too long ago a few studios asked us to proofread DMCA's they were sending to English paysites and guess who was on that list?

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romeo22

yes its so sad..i was scamed by a Gfy member tho

JuicyBunny

That does not mean anything. Japanese studios have a long history, sad to say, of not knowing their ass from their elbow when sending DMCA's, often sending DMCA's to affiliates and partners. Or using companies who infringe on George Lucas Copyrights and trademarks. That was a hoot.

I've never heard of AMP being accused of stealing content but you never know these days.

I guess you know about the other Zenra movie site who were found to be straight up pirates?Never knew what happened to them.

TeenCat

hey juicybunny you are a paysite owner he will not fuck you up, but some affiliate who he decide not to pay for rebills, that is another story it is not like hey we make one affiliate as an example, send new joins or we will fuck you like this ... very bad business reputation imho

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dave90210

Why do people from other places put the dollar sign at the end of the amount? 50.000$?

Let me decode the amount $50,000 from now on the dollar sign goes BEFORE the amount and we use a comma not a dot! Remember Google is your friend it will show you the proper way to display money!

ZENRA

I have copies of DMCA's and email exchanges sent to Epoch (their main processor).

I literally just called a studio yesterday who has hundreds of titles up on AMP and they told me they never licensed their movies out to any other English-language site besides ours.

Just last month another studio found hundreds of movies of theirs on AMP and asked me to write out their DMCA (which I have a copy of). The notice was sent and the movies went down.

One exchange was sent from a studio to AMP, AMP replied promptly saying they took the movies down and looking into the issue as there may have been an issue from their licensing 'provider'. The studio replied asking who the 'provider' was, but the email never made it to AMP as they blocked the email address.

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ZENRA

Tsunami Cash - Uncensored Exclusives
CKE18 - Uncensored (kinda) " "
JPornAccess - run by Dreamroom, the largest producer of uncensored Japanese AV. Pretty much a foreigner-oriented site that contains movies from a whole bunch of their sites.

I have no connection to the above sites and am not posting any affiliate referral links.

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xXXtesy10

why you steal from them too?

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JuicyBunny

If true, may be the beginning of the end for AMP. I've been asked by studios before if they are legitimate.

We have been procuring Japanese content for almost 10 years for people. Japanese AV/Taiwan etc has got to be one of the murkiest businesses to work with.

I know one of the main acquirers has retired. More likely in hiding.

We have been shooting content in Japan for the past 2 years as we are here now. If anyone has any content needs or interests you can send me a PM.

ZENRA

What I can say is I have multiple DMCA's both in doc format and actual email exchanges between studio and IPSP's (the studios mostly do not speak English so they sometimes forward me the emails asking me to translate for them). I also have multiple emails from numerous studios that flat out say their content is being uploaded illegally by them and other paysites like them. I do not speak for every single studio in Japan, but the ones we work with have all said the same thing.

Good luck with your shooting and licensing. Let us know what you shoot and perhaps we can work out a deal in the future. We also can help with licensing for anyone looking for a legal way to procure new(er) release censored Japanese AV content.

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Thanks i will take a look

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JuicyBunny

Thanks. I will keep you in mind. At the moment everything is being shot for specific companies. We used to shoot uncensored but not anymore. Not in this environment. Now off to Latin Quarter and hope I don't get arrested. lol.

Let me know when you come to Tokyo, maybe we can have a coffee or ramen or something.

JuicyBunny

Reminds me of the Seattle and Vancouver based dvd burning people. On this board I've actually read some idiots saying copyrights do not apply to Japan. Fortunately that is not true.

We've also been educating our studio network about the pros of filing DMCAs and actually have teamed them up with western counterparts to take chronic uploaders to court in the west.

I can see studios ramping up their efforts as the Tokyo Met puts more pressure on companies to come into compliance on different matters. "An apple for the teacher helps to keep the doctor away." Or should I say the coroner.

Sad news about AMP. Maybe they should do what some of the Russian pirate JAV sites did and take a loss and make a deal with the content owners.

JuicyBunny

AMP has removed the post they made to affiliates about dropping accounts.

I expect they are on their way to sorting everything out.

Good luck to you, OP.

AlexTmz

Yes, I see he deleted his message
but still my account and partner account is disabled
and I dont get any money
On icq he also dont want answer....

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What censored studios do you shoot with/for? You can email us if you rather not say in public for confidentiality reasons.

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ZENRA

The 70,000 yen soapland or am I missing something?

I'm in western Japan, but go to Tokyo a few times a year to talk shop so I'll keep your invitation in mind.

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ZENRA

If you're talking about who I think you're talking about, then there's no deal that I know of (assuming we're still talking about censored paysites here). There's a huge English AV paysite network that studios we work with have been sending DMCA's to and is on IPPA's radar.

For pretty much most of our own licensing deals, we had to meet the studios face to face. Very few (like maybe just 3-4) were OK with doing it all over email and phone. The rest strongly encouraged us to meet them in Tokyo first (or at least before we started putting the movies online). Fortunately licensing success rate from face-to-face meetings = 100%. For many, we were their first ever foreign partners and I think now they are a bit more open to licensing internationally.

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teomaxxx

I wrote them few emails, no reply and they owe me around 600usd.

How did you conctac them?

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got paid too as usually, check comes few days back.
for contact i've used their form - works for me.
AMP was always good sponsor for me, nothing changed here except lacking of paxum.

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faxxaff

Aren't most "Japanese Sponsors" filled with unlicensed content? Don't we all know that and still promote them? Why? Because Japanese studios won't allow foreigners to join their sites. And when they license content they ask for special double pricing for non-Japanese companies .... go figure ... why did they discriminate against foreigners in the first place? It was their own fault things wen't that ugly. You can't put shit back into the horse.

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ZENRA

You're somewhat wrong here...at least from my experience from working with over 20 studios (and this is with no double-counting or counting labels as unique companies). From what I notice about legit foreign-owned Japanese AV paysites, their content is all pretty much from Dreamroom, the largest producer of uncensored JAV.

I believe the reason is because most foreign webmasters do not speak Japanese and most AV studios in Japan do not speak English. The people who can license out Dreamroom content can speak in English, but of course going through them is going to cost a lot hence the 'double pricing' as you wrote (though in my experience it was the other way around: licensing costing more if you also run a Japanese-language site). The other negative to this is the content that’s usually available is not very new.

Depending on how one showcases this content, it may not be an issue, but it’s something else to consider. Also most uncensored JAV movies (and I’m referring to the non-amateur ones here) do not star top rank actresses. The production values are often not as good as censored movies* (lighting that’s too bright, no sound guy, a camera that lingers way too long on zoomed-in private parts, and little to no storyline). *Overall from what I've seen. Yes, there's always exceptions!

For censored Japanese AV studios, it's totally possible to get licensing deals, but you need to note that there are no 'content market' sites in Japan like Amazing Content and Adult Sex Content (both are great sites!). This means you need to approach whatever studio's content you're interested in and start from step one. Again, from my experience, simply sending an email--even one in Japanese—may be futile. They may check it, they may not, but even with studios run by younger people, the almighty face-to-face meeting is critically important to making a deal. Thus, if censored content is what you want and you’re dead serious about getting it, the best thing to do is to hire an interpreter, contact these studios by phone, book a meeting, and fly out to Tokyo.

I don’t believe studios in Japan are discriminating against foreigners (be it surfers or webmasters). It’s just that the western market is so different than what they’re used to. They don’t know where to start with it. And of course there’s also the issue of royalty-free versus revenue-sharing. The former doesn’t really exist in Japan since most paysites are just VOD (though a few are now testing streaming-only all-you-can-watch plans).

Giving a studio a lowball offer with no revshare/kickback probably won’t work. This means you’re going to have to consider modifying your site’s backend to keep track of downloads and streams and then pay the studios accordingly each month.

TL;DR: for the foreign webmaster who doesn’t speak Japanese, licensing uncensored JAV is a significantly easier than licensing censored JAV. It’s best to know Japanese well when negotiating for the latter (or hire someone who speaks it). Most Japanese aren’t racist though many may shy away when needing to communicate in a foreign language hence the misconception.

PS, DMRC: best of luck with your new site! Please let me know when it's online.

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