dyna mo

apparently none of y'all have been sucker-punched by Uber's surge pricing.

Jel

Now why didn't you just point that out, instead of making shit up about my viewpoint and being the usual dicksplash you are? I've no problem admitting when I'm wrong, and seems I was given wrong info, either accidentally, or maybe it was on purpose the way groups do to further their cause. I had a look and found this article I said Uber was better than London's black cabs. And then it all kicked off... - Telegraph and they have a disclaimer at the bottom after the article was amended, so it seems it's a common misconception. Nevertheless, my bad on taking it at face value. A worthwhile line in that article though is (my bold):

And THAT is the whole crux of my points.. not whether uber is 'good' or not, of course it fucking is to the end user - but to actually place myself in the other viewpoint, and try to understand *why* black cab drivers and minicab drivers alike here in the UK where we don't have mafia-controlled cab companies and all the rest of it you seem to have where you are, are so up in arms. In fact it's only just dawned on me you are most likely sitting there with the false idea that I'm somehow against uber themselves.

A bit like trying to explain to surfers *why* we in the adult industry are up in arms over piracy, when all they know is: it's legal porn with paid performers and they can go to a multitude of torrent sites/filelockers/illegal tubes and stuff themselves silly with a fantastic delivery method. Until the surfer actually puts himself on the side of production, he has zero idea about the costs involved, the differing legalities, and the constraints a paysite has as opposed to those eg a filelocker has.

So... take off crb checks as misguided hysteria by whomever, and that leaves licencing fees as laid down by the (UK, and from this thread it seems, also AUS) gov't, and set fares for 1 group of people but not for the other. I'm sure those adhering to TFL and their local council regs would love to be able to compete with Uber in a true free market, the fact is though, they are unable to. *That* is why UK cab drivers are pissed off, and I can't blame them at all.

Jel

btw the comments on that are worth reading - they give a pretty balanced view from both sides, and should help people understand at least the cabbies' frustrations. Ofc, this is only for the UK, I don't know, and can't nor won't comment on other countries' systems.

MetaMan

So you have no problem admitting you're wrong... try to spin why you were wrong... and never actually admit you are wrong? OK THEN!

You are that dense to think Uber would allow peolple with criminal records with rapists, murderers and drunk drivers to drive around in a free for all?

Someone had to give you "wrong info" to believe that? Your IQ and reasoning abilities are that low to not distinguish it for yourself?

The entire thread you're posting non stop how everyone is wrong about cabbies and your argument to back that up is to post COMPLETE LIES about Uber? Great job!

Now admit youre wrong and go hide with your tail between your legs in the corner.

Jel

lol your need to trollurbate is so great you want me to spell it out even though it was quite clear I was saying that ? And you think I was wrong because I made it up in my head? Fuck me you are a card aren't you.. you must have skipped my "Nevertheless, my bad on taking it at face value."

here you go champ: yup, I was wrong on that for sure. makes it about 3 - 1 to me on points raised so far, but well done.

Care to comment on the fact Uber fares aren't set by UK gov't, nor do they need to pay UK tax?

Nor need to complete 'the knowledge' that black cab operators have to by law?

And can own a 10 year old car as opposed to 2 years old for new black taxi drivers (tested twice a year if older than 8)?

If you truly can't see why drivers would be pissed at that, then there's not much I can say... you have your 'side' and will blindly defend it no matter what

btw if I'm wrong on any of those, feel free to point it out - I hate being in the wrong as much as the next person, and would far sooner know the right than sit here totally mis-educated by UK cab drivers if all they are doing is furthering their own cause with bs.

Jel

Any news on this? I see a bunch of my mates posting that picture I put on here earlier in the thread, I'd hate for them to be spreading bullshit info, and lying about uber... I haven't been able to find anything to refute those but I'm pretty crap at finding stuff out as evidenced by my being wrong about the crb checks - appreciate any help anyone can give

SpicyM

Correct.

It can be a bit different in each country, but there are high requirements for taxi drivers in Europe. And the legality of Uber is still questioned.. so it could be a matter of court ruling that could simply ban them.

Also, not true there is no competition among Taxi services, I can get a 5e fixed rate per ride here. That is not really much. Others can charge much more and per km basis and the drivers are professionals

There is a shitload of taxi services here, I don't really care about some shady amateurs from Uber without license at this time.