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Old 01-12-2016, 05:24 PM   #1
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Pussification continues: Marine Corps

Marine Corps Ordered to Make Boot Camp Coed, Remove 'Man' from Titles

Marine Corps Ordered to Make Boot Camp Coed, Remove 'Man' from Titles | Military.com

He's also calling for the Marines to make all job titles gender-neutral as the service opens currently closed ground combat jobs to women.
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It pisses me off! Killing my Corps. several high ranking Marine officers try to keep the Marine Corps out of this deal but the SoN is pushing it on .
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He's also calling for the Marines to make all job titles gender-neutral as the service opens currently closed ground combat jobs to women.
^^ Idiot foreigner thinks Marines are only men He hates Americans, American culture & American military
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The establishment using the naive and idiotic libster gender propaganda to get twice as much cannon fodder for oil gathering- and currency protective invasions. Pretty smart tactic to get leftwing hippies to be pro war.

Next thing you know leftwing media is cheering for bombings. Oh wait, they did, the only time they praised Trump is when he bombed Syria. Looks like leftists are having a bit of an identity crisis
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^^ Idiot foreigner thinks Marines are only men He hates Americans, American culture & American military
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Just wait for the first real war and POW camps for then all the "sexual harassment" lawsuits in the UN when it is all over....

I believe in equality, but somebody without testosteron ought not to be in combat...
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I believe in equality, but somebody without testosteron ought not to be in combat...
How not SJW of you.
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I never thought much of Woman Marines. For the most part, Women Marines worked in Admin or Motor Transport, and occasionally Supply. We also had one Women Marine who worked in the Armory. We rarely saw them.

It wasn't until a few years ago that I gave it any thought. A local recruiter hit me up and wanted to meet with me. He brought with her a young Private First Class who had just graduated boot camp, and she was on recruiter duty. I've gotten to know her over the past two years. She is as Marine as Marine can be. She has a full six pack and is just ripped. She wanted a full combat role, and last time I talked to her she is a Low Altitude Air Defense (LAAD) Gunner assigned to an infantry unit.

If you asked me about Women Marines two years ago I wouldn't have thought too highly of them. However, now I am fine with it. A woman can do anything a woman can do, and a Marine can do anything.
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A woman can do anything a woman can do, and a Marine can do anything.
That equals a woman can do anything a marine can do (aka anything)?

I am not against women as longs as they meet the EXACT physical/mental requirements, just pointing out your strange line...
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I never thought much of Woman Marines. For the most part, Women Marines worked in Admin or Motor Transport, and occasionally Supply. We also had one Women Marine who worked in the Armory. We rarely saw them.

It wasn't until a few years ago that I gave it any thought. A local recruiter hit me up and wanted to meet with me. He brought with her a young Private First Class who had just graduated boot camp, and she was on recruiter duty. I've gotten to know her over the past two years. She is as Marine as Marine can be. She has a full six pack and is just ripped. She wanted a full combat role, and last time I talked to her she is a Low Altitude Air Defense (LAAD) Gunner assigned to an infantry unit.

If you asked me about Women Marines two years ago I wouldn't have thought too highly of them. However, now I am fine with it. A woman can do anything a woman can do, and a Marine can do anything.
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I never thought much of Woman Marines. For the most part, Women Marines worked in Admin or Motor Transport, and occasionally Supply. We also had one Women Marine who worked in the Armory. We rarely saw them.

It wasn't until a few years ago that I gave it any thought. A local recruiter hit me up and wanted to meet with me. He brought with her a young Private First Class who had just graduated boot camp, and she was on recruiter duty. I've gotten to know her over the past two years. She is as Marine as Marine can be. She has a full six pack and is just ripped. She wanted a full combat role, and last time I talked to her she is a Low Altitude Air Defense (LAAD) Gunner assigned to an infantry unit.

If you asked me about Women Marines two years ago I wouldn't have thought too highly of them. However, now I am fine with it. A woman can do anything a woman can do, and a Marine can do anything.
They have surrendered military efficiency for a PC agenda. Go figure the number of extra dead it will require.
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That equals a woman can do anything a marine can do (aka anything)?

I am not against women as longs as they meet the EXACT physical/mental requirements, just pointing out your strange line...
Correct. I believe a woman Marine can do anything a male Marine can.
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I disagree. Anyone can fire a weapon.

I understand there are physical differences between men and women - there always will be; Our bodies are different. From what I understand they go through the SAME exact training as the males. This means everything I did at Paris Island they do at Paris Island. The same training courses, repelling, push ups, rope climbing, running, humps, etc. The only exception I have seen is the pull ups.
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https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2...or-women-afte/

Pressure grows on Marines to consider lowering combat standards for women

A IOC diploma is a must to earn the designation of infantry officer. Of 29 women who tried, none graduated; only four made it through the first day’s combat endurance test.
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We get it, you see women as competition for the cock you love so much
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I disagree. Anyone can fire a weapon.

I understand there are physical differences between men and women - there always will be; Our bodies are different. From what I understand they go through the SAME exact training as the males. This means everything I did at Paris Island they do at Paris Island. The same training courses, repelling, push ups, rope climbing, running, humps, etc. The only exception I have seen is the pull ups.
Which is why in sport all events are uni-sex.

If only the liberals could see the obvious replies to their chatter.
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We want our Marines to be tough killing machines. Messing around with the things which make them those killing machines is not a good thing. That means, don't mess with the hazing, the rigid boot camp and especially don't introduce women into the mix.

Sorry ladies, but war is a man's job. Not saying there aren't women who could do it better than some men, but by and large we all know who does it better and shouldn't fool ourselves about it. Women have their strengths, and taking a life with bayonet or a bullet to the head is not what their biology is geared toward.
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I disagree. Anyone can fire a weapon.

I understand there are physical differences between men and women - there always will be; Our bodies are different. From what I understand they go through the SAME exact training as the males. This means everything I did at Paris Island they do at Paris Island. The same training courses, repelling, push ups, rope climbing, running, humps, etc. The only exception I have seen is the pull ups.
They do not go through the same requirements at all.
Fact is...girls and girly men just cant compete.
you competed the requirements to become a marine. we give you lots of shit here about it, but kudos.

There are just certain jobs that shouldnt be sex dependant, they should be viewed strictly from a physical standpoint.

firefighter
police
marine
seal
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182 cms...90 kgs..solid muscle...speed requirements...strength requirements.

after that i do not care about the sex of the person...just they meet the min physical attributes.

Imagine a firefighter making his way to the 8th floor to rescue 1 person...however when they get there...it is 3 people...now a 184 cm 100 kg massively fucking fit guy will drag them all down by their hair...they will be bruised..but they will get out.

now picture a 156 cm 70kg person trying to do the same


leave sex at the door and measure physically
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The establishment using the naive and idiotic libster gender propaganda to get twice as much cannon fodder for oil gathering- and currency protective invasions. Pretty smart tactic to get leftwing hippies to be pro war.

Next thing you know leftwing media is cheering for bombings. Oh wait, they did, the only time they praised Trump is when he bombed Syria. Looks like leftists are having a bit of an identity crisis
who is pro war again? anyone? I know your nation isn't, you have a special flag you use when war shows up at your door step as I recall.
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They do not go through the same requirements at all.
Fact is...girls and girly men just cant compete.
you competed the requirements to become a marine. we give you lots of shit here about it, but kudos.

There are just certain jobs that shouldnt be sex dependant, they should be viewed strictly from a physical standpoint.

firefighter
police
marine
seal
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182 cms...90 kgs..solid muscle...speed requirements...strength requirements.

after that i do not care about the sex of the person...just they meet the min physical attributes.

Imagine a firefighter making his way to the 8th floor to rescue 1 person...however when they get there...it is 3 people...now a 184 cm 100 kg massively fucking fit guy will drag them all down by their hair...they will be bruised..but they will get out.

now picture a 156 cm 70kg person trying to do the same


leave sex at the door and measure physically
I hear what you are saying but that doesn't mean they can't contribute. You take that same argument and compare men and you get the same issues. It is a myth that they are all 220 lbs dynamos made of solid muscle who move in perfect form at all times and shoot centre mass with their eyes closed. That is simply not true. They are people and they range like the rest of us. Some are better soldiers than others, some are faster, some are stronger, some are smarter but all of them can function as a unit in whatever way helps the core best. A large part of basic is placement. They don't lump everyone together, they are assigned to a specific unit that suits the core best and there is no reason to deny anyone from contributing their part IF they make the cut.

but yeah, making 'gender neutral' titles is ridiculous.
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Imagine a firefighter making his way to the 8th floor to rescue 1 person...however when they get there...it is 3 people...now a 184 cm 100 kg massively fucking fit guy will drag them all down by their hair...they will be bruised..but they will get out.
But what you don't get is that ALL MARINES accomplish this in boot camp. Every last one.
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who is pro war again? anyone? I know your nation isn't, you have a special flag you use when war shows up at your door step as I recall.
your counter arguments are usually reasonable, this preposterous post doesn't even come close so i'm not even gonna respond. Who hacked into your account?
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But what you don't get is that ALL MARINES accomplish this in boot camp. Every last one.
Combat roles still have two tiered requirements, so you're wrong. Women can't perform the same as men, that's the only reason there is two different test standards.

https://www.marinecorpstimes.com/off...ect-for-women/

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• Men must complete a three-mile run within 18 minutes to get a maximum score on that portion of the PFT, while women younger than 40 have up to 21 minutes.
• For Marines between 17 and 20 years old, men must do 20 pullups to get a maximum score; women must do seven.
• On the CFT, men must lift a 30-pound ammunition can between 106 and 120 times within two minutes to get a max score. Women must lift the can between 66 and 75 times for a maximum score.
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I disagree. Anyone can fire a weapon.

I understand there are physical differences between men and women - there always will be; Our bodies are different. From what I understand they go through the SAME exact training as the males. This means everything I did at Paris Island they do at Paris Island. The same training courses, repelling, push ups, rope climbing, running, humps, etc. The only exception I have seen is the pull ups.
Firing a weapon does not a warrior make. Women in general are not warriors and will never be warriors. The standards are lowered when women are allowed in combat roles period. It is a fact that women cannot even perform 100% of the duties in MOS's they are already allowed in. For anyone to say other wise is simply not true.
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I hear what you are saying but that doesn't mean they can't contribute. You take that same argument and compare men and you get the same issues. It is a myth that they are all 220 lbs dynamos made of solid muscle who move in perfect form at all times and shoot centre mass with their eyes closed. That is simply not true. They are people and they range like the rest of us. Some are better soldiers than others, some are faster, some are stronger, some are smarter but all of them can function as a unit in whatever way helps the core best. A large part of basic is placement. They don't lump everyone together, they are assigned to a specific unit that suits the core best and there is no reason to deny anyone from contributing their part IF they make the cut.

but yeah, making 'gender neutral' titles is ridiculous.
Male soldiers aren't the same, their endurance varies.

But then there are female soldiers, whos strength and endurance varies. And they are a couple levels below men.

So if you take the strongest female soldier, she can barely compare to the weakest male soldier.

All in all, if you factor in personal "variables", women still can't compete with men on the battlefield.
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Firing a weapon does not a warrior make. Women in general are not warriors and will never be warriors. The standards are lowered when women are allowed in combat roles period. It is a fact that women cannot even perform 100% of the duties in MOS's they are already allowed in. For anyone to say other wise is simply not true.
Women have no place in a life or death situation. You must have every advantage possible over the enemy, and men are almost always going to be better than women in a life or death military situation.

They are both too weak and emotional.

From the report of the Presidential Commission on the Assignment of Women in the Armed Forces (report date November 15, 1992, published in book form by Brassey’s in 1993):

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The average female Army recruit is 4.8 inches shorter, 31.7 pounds lighter, has 37.4 fewer pounds of muscle, and 5.7 more pounds of fat than the average male recruit. She has only 55 percent of the upper-body strength and 72 percent of the lower-body strength... An Army study of 124 men and 186 women done in 1988 found that women are more than twice as likely to suffer leg injuries and nearly five times as likely to suffer fractures as men.

It is this simple, and you got this thing with pshyche too. They will give up and cry when you really need to be hard at the most, this is maybe the most important part of it all. Nomatter how shiity things are, you stick it out, you follow orders, you are not important.
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I hear what you are saying but that doesn't mean they can't contribute. You take that same argument and compare men and you get the same issues. It is a myth that they are all 220 lbs dynamos made of solid muscle who move in perfect form at all times and shoot centre mass with their eyes closed. That is simply not true. They are people and they range like the rest of us. Some are better soldiers than others, some are faster, some are stronger, some are smarter but all of them can function as a unit in whatever way helps the core best. A large part of basic is placement. They don't lump everyone together, they are assigned to a specific unit that suits the core best and there is no reason to deny anyone from contributing their part IF they make the cut.

but yeah, making 'gender neutral' titles is ridiculous.
So long as they're not asked to go into the front line unless they can perform all tasks like a man.

The front line is not what you imagine. It's about killing and being killed.
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But what you don't get is that ALL MARINES accomplish this in boot camp. Every last one.
So the training isn't that hard!!!!!

I know someone who went through Royal Marines Comando training. It's not something most women can do, it stretches men to the limit so they can operate at the limit in a war zone.

Which war zone did you operate in?
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Old 12-08-2017, 11:06 AM   #34
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But what you don't get is that ALL MARINES accomplish this in boot camp. Every last one.
God damn, what a fucking idiot you are. US military standards have been eliminated to allow women to "pass" physical tests

Imagine the women being captured...imagine the POW camp...imagine them being used to breed more enemy soldiers (or get sold off) Psychological studies show *men* get more emotional when a woman squadmate gets hit, and act unpredictably; unit cohesion and ability to execute commands suffer.

Now let's get onto the reality. This is from my experience having served in the middle east in two branches.

- Women get injured at much higher rates
- Women get special quotas
- Women DO NOT meet the standards as men even though the government say they do.
- Women get pregnant to avoid trips. Happened on my gulf deployment. 2 others got pregnant in the AO.
- Women in the military are sluts. Much the same reason they become cosplayers. Msot military women are broken souls who join a male dominated organization to feel like they are special. Even if they pretend they dont like the special treatment they really do
- They cause jealousy and turmoil within strong male units. IE a girl will come in and fuck everyone except a few guys and they will get jealous. Soon enough there will be a break down in the order and cohesion. This is a big problem and no its not the Mens fault and we do not have to get over it
-It takes away from the experience. Why join an 'elite' unit if women are allowed to join? Doesnt make it elite or special anymore
- Women are like cancer, once a few get in they flood in. And they band together and organise and soon enough there are sexual assault cases left right and center because they try and get rid of all the men who are a threat.
- They get promoted and put on courses faster than men. Even Men who are more experienced.
We've had a few girls rock up in my unit and all of them started fucking guys in the brigade and in the unit. Its a game to them.
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Rochard says some of the dumbest shit at times about military subjects.
He never stepped a feet on a battleground I guess.
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He never stepped a feet on a battleground I guess.
That is correct. I don't think he even went on a "Float/MEU". I could be wrong about that but I don't think I am.
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